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Nodl temporarily sent to Phantoms as Flyers officially get roster down to size

At 3 PM Eastern today, rosters have to be set at 23 players.

The Flyers, with Ian Laperriere and Michael Leighton still on the roster, sit with 25 players. The reports from camp today say that Lappy has been placed on the normal injured reserve, which leaves his cap hit in play but takes him off of the active roster.

Leighton, meanwhile, is still on the active roster. Perhaps the Flyers can't get clearance on him yet, but I'd say it's only a matter of time before the team puts both of these guys on LTIR.

In the meantime, to get down to 23, Andreas Nodl has been loaned to the Phantoms. Paul Holmgren says he'll be called back up when things get set with the injury situation.

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Nooooo….

Do you see what happens when you find a stranger in the Alps?

by mikefive on Oct 6, 2010 1:05 PM EDT reply actions  

Sigh

Is this the right room for an argument?

by DLJr on Oct 6, 2010 1:12 PM EDT reply actions  

from the nodl pic, surprising to see that a fan would get a lindros winter classic jersey. time heals wounds i guess.

by McNabbSoup on Oct 6, 2010 1:16 PM EDT reply actions  

Or just another jersey foul. I doubt it’s Lindros, more likely his own name or some dumb nickname.

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by DLJr on Oct 6, 2010 1:17 PM EDT up reply actions  

a patrick kane flyers jersey?!?! /s

by McNabbSoup on Oct 6, 2010 1:21 PM EDT up reply actions  

That would be mildly hilarious, seeing as we should have had the #1 pick that year.

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by DLJr on Oct 6, 2010 1:29 PM EDT up reply actions  

not like kane have put up superstar numbers anyway. Both carter and richards put you the same numbers, plus JVR could be a 70-80 points down the road too.

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by JpH89 on Oct 6, 2010 4:04 PM EDT up reply actions  

True, except i’m comparing what they got to what we got. And sorry to say, kane>jvr at this point. Yes, I know it isn’t really an equal comparison but down the road i’m sure JVR will flourish

by phinally on Oct 6, 2010 4:23 PM EDT up reply actions  

I think kane will be like a Gagne. A very good hockey player, but at the end of his career he won’t be consdered a HoF.

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by JpH89 on Oct 6, 2010 4:28 PM EDT up reply actions  

Kane and Toews are not dominate players who can take over the game like Crosby, Malkin or Ovi. They are really good talented players elite 1st All-Stars but not as SUPERSTARS. I would still argue that Keith is a much more important player to their success that either Kane or Toews.

by chrislanci on Oct 6, 2010 5:28 PM EDT up reply actions  

I was completely just talking about Kane and JVR. As for everyones talent level, you’re right both are not on the same level as crosby and ovi. They can change games though. Toews=Richards IMO. Kane is like a younger parise maybe…idk kinda pulled that comparison out of my ass

by phinally on Oct 6, 2010 8:40 PM EDT up reply actions  

I’m assuming this is because he can be moved between the two squads without waiver friction. Still, Go Carbomb.

by Snevik on Oct 6, 2010 1:18 PM EDT reply actions  

So is this a case where Homer did something wrong again?

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by EREX21 on Oct 6, 2010 1:40 PM EDT reply actions  

haha, it has to be.

How are Laperriere and Leighton NOT already on LTIR?!?! Are you KIDDING ME?!?

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by Geoff Detweiler on Oct 6, 2010 2:16 PM EDT up reply actions  

Brilliant! Let’s carry 8 defensemen, only 12 forwards, and 3 goalies. Juuuust brilliant.

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by Geoff Detweiler on Oct 6, 2010 2:17 PM EDT reply actions  

I mean, this doesn’t really/em> matter, does it? they are only dressing 20 tomorrow night, either way. How quickly is this expected to clear up? Is there independent way to find out when Lappy or Leights go on LTIR, or do we have to wait for a statement from the team?

by Snevik on Oct 6, 2010 2:40 PM EDT up reply actions  

Maybe it doesn’t really matter, but what happens if someone gets the flu tomorrow? What if someone gets a puck to the head in warmups or has their wife go into labor or misses the flight or any number of things that can prevent a guy from playing within 24 hours.

Even if that possibility is too remote to cause concern, why is Lappy on LTIR and Leighton isn’t? Their injuries were announced on the same day.

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by Geoff Detweiler on Oct 6, 2010 3:34 PM EDT up reply actions  

The answer to all those questions is Oskars Bartulis.

Maybe Leighton isn’t on LTIR because they want him back within 10 games/24 days?

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by ToddtheFox on Oct 6, 2010 3:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

I like your first answer, but to answer your question:

Good possibility, I just discount that based on Holmgren’s words. Which is a bad idea, so I discount that based on my mistrust of Holmgren’s words, meaning Leighton will be out at least 50% longer than Holmgren said.

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by Geoff Detweiler on Oct 6, 2010 3:37 PM EDT up reply actions  

Well, I’m all out of theories.

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by ToddtheFox on Oct 6, 2010 3:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

Homer Smash?

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by DLJr on Oct 6, 2010 3:55 PM EDT up reply actions  

You think that’s how Leighton got a bad back?

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by ToddtheFox on Oct 6, 2010 4:01 PM EDT up reply actions  

Possibly, but mostly how he handles roster/cap situations.

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by DLJr on Oct 6, 2010 4:27 PM EDT up reply actions  

What’s the difference between IR and LTIR? If Laperriere is projected to miss the entire season, why isn’t he on LTIR already? Can you not start the season on LTIR? I’m confused.

by rmg4519 on Oct 6, 2010 2:21 PM EDT reply actions  

I didn’t think there was a difference between IR and LTIR…

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by Geoff Detweiler on Oct 6, 2010 2:26 PM EDT up reply actions  

Okay..yeah I’m clearly confused. I don’t understand the cap hit/roster spot/over 35/Rathje-like implications of it all.

by rmg4519 on Oct 6, 2010 2:34 PM EDT up reply actions  

IR is just general “he’s injured, not taking a roster spot.”

LTIR requires you miss more time. As a result, you also get the salary cap relief. It takes a lot more clearance from doctors to go on LTIR.

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by Travis Hughes on Oct 6, 2010 4:41 PM EDT up reply actions  

Nodl is back.

Flyrsfrk05 posted this in the morning thread. I think someone did a FanShot, too.

Yay for Nodl, NOOOOOOOO for everything else.

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by mikefive on Oct 6, 2010 2:51 PM EDT reply actions  

Interestingly, Ant says Nodl will be recalled to “play” tomorrow night. So, are the lines in practice getting shuffled? Is Betts still not ready to go?

by Snevik on Oct 6, 2010 2:57 PM EDT up reply actions  

I don’t understand why a player has to count against your cap, regardless of age when they retire, especially when it is because they physically can not, or should not play anymore as in doing so is detrimental to your livelihood.

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by EREX21 on Oct 6, 2010 2:58 PM EDT up reply actions  

It’s to prevent cap circumvention.

Whether that is smart or not, whether it works or not, is a good debate I don’t feel like having right now. haha.

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by Geoff Detweiler on Oct 6, 2010 3:35 PM EDT up reply actions  

Ugh that is sickening. I really hope Lappy’s health improves, if not for hockey, then for his life

by phinally on Oct 6, 2010 3:14 PM EDT up reply actions  

What a shock, everyone over-reacts to minor roster moves.

by SJPhillyVT on Oct 6, 2010 3:14 PM EDT reply actions  

Look, just because you don’t think Nodl was the keystone piece in this roster, doesn’t mean I can’t.

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by ToddtheFox on Oct 6, 2010 3:32 PM EDT up reply actions  

Nodl will win the rocket richard trophy this year.

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by JpH89 on Oct 6, 2010 4:08 PM EDT up reply actions  

You mean the “Cup O’ Nodl” trophy?

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by ToddtheFox on Oct 6, 2010 4:10 PM EDT up reply actions  

If he ever is on a team that wins the cup, Nodl better be eating Cup O’Noodles out of the damn thing.

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by DLJr on Oct 6, 2010 4:28 PM EDT up reply actions  

how does the order of who gets the cup first go? Cause lets face it, if carter and richards get the cup before him, it might be a bad idea to eat/drink anything from the cup afterwards.

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by JpH89 on Oct 6, 2010 4:31 PM EDT up reply actions  

Not carrying a healthy forward is “minor”?

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by Geoff Detweiler on Oct 6, 2010 3:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

It was 1pm the day before the season even started, they were still settling the roster. It says “temporarily” right in the headline. He wasn’t dressing on Thursday anyway, what’s it matter if he’s sent down for one game?

by SJPhillyVT on Oct 6, 2010 10:39 PM EDT up reply actions  

What if Dan Carcillo aggravates his hernia during pre-game skate? What if Betts separates his shoulder putting his pads on?

Suddenly, you only have 11 healthy forwards to play an NHL regular season game. That’s a problem.

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by Geoff Detweiler on Oct 7, 2010 10:20 AM EDT up reply actions  

He’s already called back up.

by SJPhillyVT on Oct 7, 2010 12:02 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yes he is.

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by Geoff Detweiler on Oct 7, 2010 1:18 PM EDT up reply actions  

in terms of Lappy, I hope he doesn’t retire before home opener. Or even f he does, the team should still announce is name when they do this seasons roster before the game, get one last standing ovation to go out on.

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by JpH89 on Oct 6, 2010 4:24 PM EDT reply actions  

You know he will be there for that, and they will do something for him so he can come out on the ice.

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by DLJr on Oct 6, 2010 4:29 PM EDT up reply actions  

is there a ring ceremony? The phills had one this year for wnning the NL, so why not us for winning the East. Lappy can get a Pat da Bat type deal.

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by JpH89 on Oct 6, 2010 4:33 PM EDT up reply actions  

I think there’s a “Raise the Eastern Conference Champs Banner” ceremony.

by VorAbaddon on Oct 6, 2010 6:43 PM EDT up reply actions  

yeah I know. Only a couple more days woooo….

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by JpH89 on Oct 6, 2010 11:05 PM EDT up reply actions  

LTIR all season, activate him for Game 1 of Round 1 of the playoffs as the sixth defenseman and never let him off the bench? That meets the requirement to get your name on the Cup, right?

Obviously, doesn’t seem to be worth it, due to playoff roster size, injuries, etc. But it’s a nice fantasy.

by Snevik on Oct 6, 2010 4:33 PM EDT up reply actions  

teams can put whoever they want on the cup, up to something like 55 names I think? But with players, coaches, and staff, he might not make it.

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by JpH89 on Oct 6, 2010 4:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

Players need either 40 games in the regular season or 1 game in the postseason. Otherwise, they have to file with the league for an exception.

Does “whoever you want” really make sense to you?

by Snevik on Oct 6, 2010 4:45 PM EDT up reply actions  

Well, just cause you qualify doesnt mean you get on. would Nodl have gotten his name on the cup last year? Probably not.

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by JpH89 on Oct 6, 2010 5:04 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah, he would have. See: Slegr, Jiri, circa 2002.

by Snevik on Oct 6, 2010 5:10 PM EDT up reply actions  

I’d dress him for one game in the post season.

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by ToddtheFox on Oct 6, 2010 5:07 PM EDT up reply actions  

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