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Final Season Predictions

So tomorrow night is the big night. It's the start of a new journey to the playoffs, playing for the Stanley Cup. We all questioned the moves this off-season, and praised others. But tomorrow is the first step to all of our questions being answered. In this post I will give my projected lines (from what i gather will be lines based on pre-season), goal and point production plus which place the Flyers will finish in.


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Line 1: Dan Carcillo - Mike Richards (C) - Jeff Carter (A)

This line has the potential to be very effective. Carcillo will creat havoc in the corners and bust the other team's balls. Richards will be a physical force as always with a tremendous offensive upside while making room for Carter and also feeding him the puck. Carter will have to adjust to the wing, but he may actually be more productive there. He will have less defensive responsibilities and will get the opportunity to shoot the puck more.

Richards: 25-35 goals, 70-80 points Carter: 30-40 goals, 70-80 points, Carcillo: 10-20 goals, 20-30 points

Line 2: Scott Hartnell - Danny Briere (A) - Ville Leino

We all know what this line is capable of. They basically (along with Giroux) kept us alive offensively against the Blackhawks. With the skill set of Leino and Briere, and the net-crashing ability of Hartnell, this line has all the right tools to create offense. Briere will have to continue playing like he did in the playoffs, while Leino needs to prove that the playoffs wasn't a fluke. Hartnell must have a bounce back year from his sub-par one last season.

Briere: 25-35 goals, 65-75 points Hartnell: 15-25 goals, 45-55 points, Leino: 15-25 goals, 40-50 points

Line 3: James van Riemsdyk - Claude Giroux - Nikolay Zherdev

This is going to be a deadly line if all goes as planned. Giroux is FINALLY going to have true finnisher on his line. Giroux and Zherdev both have tremendous hands. Giroux will set up the play and Zherdev will finnish. JVR bulked up this summer and can finally be the power-forward they wanted him to be from day one. He is better and expect him to have a break-out year.

Giroux: 15-25 goals, 50-60 points, Zherdev: 20-30 goals, 50-60 points, JVR: 15-25 goals, 40-50 points

Line 4: Jody Shelley - Blair Betts - Darroll Powe

This is going to be a fun line to watch. It will be a hard hitting and tough line to play against. It will be a bit weaker due to the losse of Ian Laperriere, but Jody Shelley seems to be fitting in nicely. Betts and Powe will be counted on as the primary penalty-killers. Shelley will provide toughness and will be able to take on guys like Colten Orr and Derek Boogard.

Betts: 0-10 goals, 10-20 points, Powe: 0-10  goals, 10-20 points, Shelley: 0-10 goals, 0-10 points

Pairing 1: Chris Pronger (A) - Matt Carle

These two will once again be depended on as the number one pair. Pronger will have less of a work-load with the arrivals of the new defensemen, and Carle will have more experience with a second year with Pronger. Both will have great years.

Pronger: 0-10 goals, 40-50 points, Carle: 0-10 goals, 30-40 points

Pairing 2: Kimmo Timonen (A) - Braydon Coburn

We know what to expect from these two. They will be our "second" first pair. Timonen will have less of a work-load much like Pronger, which will benefit him due to him aging. Coburn will be looking for a bounce-back year after a weak regular season. Coburn will have some confidence though after a very strong playoff performance. Coburn will also feel the pressure from Meszaros, who may challenge him for that top-four spot, which will make him try even more.

Timonen: 0-10 goals, 35-45 points, Coburn: 0-10 goals, 25-35 points

Pairing 3: Andrej Meszaros - Sean O'Donnell

Finally a thirs pairing that we can rely on. Meszaros and O'Donnell will form a very strong third pair relieving pressure from the top-four. Meszaros will be depended on to do some damge on the power play, utilizing his big shot. He knows that Coburn will be fighting him for powper play time, so he must take advantage of his opportunity. O'Donnell will be counted on for his veteran leadership. He will also provide a physical prescence on the back-end. These two will feel the need to do well to make sure they don't lose there jobs to Oskars Bartulis and Matt Walker.

Meszaros: 0-10 goals, 25-35 points, O'Donnell: 0-10 goals, 5-15 points

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Sweet analysis, I like it. I’m not going to get into the pts per player(too in-depth at 2am) but i love the lines. Your descriptions are exactly why I’ve been making my case for them all off-season. This is what I’m hoping to see. But, what goalie do you think gets the most starts?

by phinally on Oct 7, 2010 2:03 AM EDT reply actions  

Or both Coburn and Timonen perform better this year b/c they aren’t expected to spend 35% of their even strength shifts carrying around the dead weight of one of Bartulis, Parent, Syvret, Krajicek, or OKT. Frankly both of them didn’t really perform to their contract levels last year. Hopefully spending the majority of the year together, if this is indeed how they are played, will provide all the “bounce back” they need.

Is this the right room for an argument?

by DLJr on Oct 7, 2010 9:14 AM EDT reply actions  

you shut your whorish mouth

Kimmo Timonen out performs his contract just by breathing.

Flyers 10-11 season slogan: "Remember Emery?"

by JpH89 on Oct 8, 2010 8:13 AM EDT up reply actions  

He has been my favorite player in the NHL for the past 6 years…so it’s not like I enjoy saying it. One thing the stats can’t show you over a season, is how well he can shut down a star player in a single game. And one thing the stats can show you is that he (and Coburn) were expected to carry a lot of dead weight last year.

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by DLJr on Oct 8, 2010 8:59 AM EDT up reply actions  

I would be expecting a lot more production out of that 3rd line. JVR had 35 pts last year I expect him to get 60 this year a 10 pt increase as you predict in not enough for a breakout. I really think that line has a chance to be our most productive line 5 on 5 given the other two lines will draw the stiffer competition. What 3rd line could match that line in terms of talent. Also Zherdev is such a major upgrade in terms of skill over the Asham it should really make a big difference.

If Carter and Richards muster 70-80 pts a piece there winger has to end up with more that 30 pts by accident. Also when Carcillo is the box for fighting or thrown out of the game entirely who gets bumped up to play them. I think Carcillo is a on a very short lease if that lines struggles he will be traded.

I also think Meszaros is going to score more than 10 goals manning the second PP unit. That unit is going also be loaded with skill and get favorable matchups against the 2nd PK of the opposition.

For season predictions, I think it is going to be like it was before the lockout the Flyers battling the Devils for the division. The only difference being we now own them in the head to head match giving us the advantage and the division title. Pittsburgh is going to get 6th overall and we will be playing them in round 1 of the playoffs with home ice this time.

by chrislanci on Oct 7, 2010 9:39 AM EDT reply actions  

I also think Meszaros is going to score more than 10 goals manning the second PP unit.

Chris Pronger only scored 10 goals last year. One of only 23 defensemen to score double-digit goals in the entire league. Meszaros might score 7.

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by Geoff Detweiler on Oct 7, 2010 10:37 AM EDT up reply actions  

Coburn also may beat him out for more PP time. I know it was preseason, but he looked better from the point.

But to play devil’s advocate MA Bergeron score 13 last year in 60 games for Montreal, 7 of them coming on the PP, so it can happen. But I don’t think it will happen either. If Chris just said 10, I could be convinced; more than 10, with all the players this team could roll out on the point on the PP, I just don’t see it happening.

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by DLJr on Oct 7, 2010 10:50 AM EDT up reply actions  

Pronger and Timonen WILL be on the power play. Carle almost certainly will be. Richards might play the point (too many good forwards to only play 6 of them), and Coburn might as well. Meszaros probably will, but then how much? I don’t see him getting more PP time than Prongs or Kimmo, and I’m sure Carle will get his share. So then, how many goals he scores is dependent upon how much time he actually gets.

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by Geoff Detweiler on Oct 7, 2010 1:47 PM EDT up reply actions  

Couldn’t agree more. I could see Meszaros getting 10 if he works his way to a steady job on the PP. But given how the season will likely start, I don’t see him getting/earning that time.

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by DLJr on Oct 7, 2010 1:57 PM EDT up reply actions  

Coburn needs to get better at hitting the net to stay on that 2nd unit

Backing Backlund for 2010-2011
Mourning Gagne forever.

by ToddtheFox on Oct 7, 2010 2:07 PM EDT up reply actions  

I know it was preseason, but he looked better from the point.

That is what I was referring to there.

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by DLJr on Oct 7, 2010 2:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

For all I knew, Coburn looking better at the point meant he wasn’t letting pucks jump over his stick. If I recall correctly, he was the least accurate Flyer last season

Backing Backlund for 2010-2011
Mourning Gagne forever.

by ToddtheFox on Oct 7, 2010 3:08 PM EDT up reply actions  

I know, that’s why I clarified.

Is this the right room for an argument?

by DLJr on Oct 7, 2010 4:43 PM EDT up reply actions  

hahaha. That too.

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by Geoff Detweiler on Oct 7, 2010 5:27 PM EDT up reply actions  

Coburn got so many shots/passes blocked last year. I wouldnt mind his offensive rush mentality if he didn’t have so many damn turnovers. Thats what hurt him the most last year, that, and he was weak around his own net. Just let players skate on by a lot.

Flyers 10-11 season slogan: "Remember Emery?"

by JpH89 on Oct 8, 2010 8:17 AM EDT up reply actions  

Problem: What do we do without Pronger? Im not seeing anything coming from walker. And i cant pretend like Pronger and Kimmo are gonna play forever, they are some of the oldest on our team. Even the past few games without pronger there has been a noticible difference, Kimmo and Pronger are what holds it together (or at least thats how i feel) What do we do if there out?

by Cillo stache on Oct 9, 2010 2:57 PM EDT reply actions  

Psh, that’s why we have Meszaros!

/sarcasm

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by Geoff Detweiler on Oct 9, 2010 4:23 PM EDT up reply actions  

I reffer to him as messy. But agreed i feel like where screwed without him. And by the way i get you man-crushin on boosh. Except im a girl. so its okay.

by Cillo stache on Oct 9, 2010 4:59 PM EDT up reply actions  

haha, are you suggesting a little man-on-man crush is not okay???

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by Geoff Detweiler on Oct 10, 2010 10:05 PM EDT up reply actions  

hahaha We’ll see if he likes you back but its perfectly fine with me haahah its just easier for me :) {well not really, even breire would tower over me hahah}

by Cillo stache on Oct 10, 2010 10:23 PM EDT up reply actions  

Line 1: Claude Giroux – Mike Richards © – JVR

Line 2: Scott Hartnell – Danny Briere (A) – Ville Leino

Line 3: Dan Carcillo – Jeff Carter (A) – Andreas Nodl

Line 4: Jody Shelley – Blair Betts – Darroll Powe

Same D

Same 2 goalies

I Like those Combos on Forward better

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by FLYERROB on Jan 12, 2011 7:50 PM EST reply actions  

Give me:

1: Hartnell – Briere – Leino
2: Nodl – Richards – Giroux
3: JVR – Carter – Zherdev
4: Carcillo – Betts – Powe

These lines worked well for the ~3 games they were together.

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by Geoff Detweiler on Jan 13, 2011 9:20 AM EST up reply actions  

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