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Peter Laviolette's goalie problem

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Peter Laviolette has a goalie problem. No, this isn't another post on what the hell he's going to do when Michael Leighton finally returns to the lineup. It's a different problem. In my opinion, it's a more serious problem.

Sergei Bobrovsky will make his 10th straight start tonight for the Flyers, and nobody is complaining about that now considering the team has picked up points in every single one of those games, largely thanks to Bob's magnificent play. This just might be a problem down the road, though.

In just under a year as Flyers head coach, Laviolette has displayed a complete inability to start his backup goaltender. After the jump, we'll look at every single one of Laviolette's regular season goaltending decisions, from the day he took over last December to tonight's game against the Senators. The results are slightly disturbing.

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We'll ignore anything that happened before Peter Laviolette was head coach, obviously. December 5 against Washington was his first game as head coach. Ray Emery got the start that night and was quickly pulled as the Caps ran up the score on the embarrassed Flyers. We learned a few days later that Emery was hurt.

Laviolette then gave Boucher the reins until yet another injury sidelined him. You'll notice that same theme here throughout. Let's get to the chart.

Date Opponent Result Starter (Backup)
Dec 5, 2009 Capitals L, 8-2 Emery (Boucher)
Dec 7, 2009 Canadiens L, 3-1 Boucher
Emery goes on IR on December 8, Backlund enters as backup
Dec 8, 2009 Islanders W, 6-2 Boucher
Dec 10, 2009 Senators L, 2-0 Boucher
Dec 12, 2009 Devils L, 4-1 Boucher
Dec 14, 2009 Bruins W, 3-1 Boucher
Michael Leighton claimed off waivers December 15, Backlund sent down
Dec 15, 2009 Penguins L, 6-1 Boucher
Dec 17, 2009 Penguins SOL, 3-2 Boucher
Dec 19, 2009 Rangers L, 2-1 Boucher
Dec 21, 2009 Panthers L, 4-1 Boucher (Leighton)
Boucher injured against Panthers, Leighton finished game
Dec 23, 2009 Lightning W, 5-2 Leighton
Dec 26, 2009 Hurricanes W, 4-3 Leighton
Dec 27, 2009 Islanders W, 2-1 Leighton
Dec 30, 2009 Rangers W, 6-0 Leighton
Jan 1, 1010 Bruins OTL, 2-1 Leighton
Jan 3, 2010 Senators L, 7-4 Leighton (Boucher) Leighton
Leighton started vs OTT, Boucher came in for 7:00, Leighton finished the game
Jan 6, 2010 Leafs W, 6-2 Leighton
Jan 7, 2010 Penguins W, 7-4 Leighton
Jan 9, 2010 Lightning W, 4-1 Leighton
Jan 12, 2010 Stars W, 6-3 Leighton
Jan 14, 2010 Leafs L, 4-0 Leighton
Emery returns from injury, Leighton as backup
Jan 17, 2010 Capitals L, 5-3 Emery
Jan 19, 2010 Blue Jackets W, 5-3 Emery
Jan 21, 2010 Rangers W, 2-0 Emery
Jan 23, 2010 Hurricanes W, 4-2 Emery
Jan 24, 2010 Penguins L, 2-1 Emery
Jan 28, 2010 Thrashers L, 4-3 Emery
Jan 30, 2010 Islanders W, 2-1 Emery
Feb 1, 2010 Flames W, 3-0 Emery
Emery injured again, Boucher returns as backup
Feb 3, 2010 Oilers L, 1-0 Leighton
Feb 6, 2010 Wild L, 2-1 Leighton
Feb 8, 2010 Devils W, 3-2 Leighton
Feb 10, 2010 Devils W, 3-2 Leighton
Feb 12, 2010 Canadiens W, 3-2 Leighton
Feb 13, 2010 Canadiens W, 6-2 Leighton
Olympic break
Mar 2, 2010 Lightning W, 7-2 Leighton
Mar 3, 2010 Panthers L, 7-4 Leighton (Boucher)
Mar 5, 2010 Sabres OTL, 3-2 Leighton
Mar 7, 2010 Leafs W, 3-1 Leighton
Mar 9, 2010 Islanders W, 3-2 Leighton
Mar 11, 2010 Bruins L, 5-1 Leighton (Boucher)
Mar 13, 2010 Blackhawks W, 3-2 Leighton
Mar 14, 2010 Rangers L, 3-1 Leighton
Mar 16, 2010 Predators SOL, 4-3 Leighton (Boucher)
Leighton injured vs NSH, Duchesne called up as backup
Mar 18, 2010 Stars W, 3-2 Boucher
Mar 20, 2010 Thrashers L, 5-2 Boucher
Mar 21, 2010 Thrashers L, 3-1 Boucher
Mar 23, 2010 Senators L, 2-0 Boucher
Backlund called up as new backup
Mar 25, 2010 Wild OTL, 4-3 Boucher
Mar 27, 2010 Penguins L, 4-1 Backlund (Boucher)
Backlund hurt vs Penguins, Hutton called up as backup
Mar 28, 2010 Devils W, 5-1 Boucher
Duchesne called up again as backup
Apr 1, 2010 Islanders L, 6-4 Boucher (Duchesne)
Caron signed as backup
Apr 2, 2010 Canadiens L,1-0 Boucher
Apr 4, 2010 Wings W, 4-3 Boucher
Apr 6, 2010 Leafs W, 2-0 Boucher
Apr 9, 2010 Rangers L, 4-3 Boucher
Apr 11, 2010 Rangers W, 2-1 Boucher




Date Opponent Result Starter (Backup)
Oct 7, 2010 Penguins W, 3-2 Bobrovsky
Oct 9, 2010 Blues OTL, 2-1 Boucher
Oct 11, 2010 Avalanche W, 4-2 Bobrovsky
Oct 14, 2010 Lightning L, 3-2 Boucher
Oct 16, 2010 Penguins L, 5-1 Bobrovsky
Oct 21, 2010 Ducks L, 3-2 Bobrovsky
Oct 23, 2010 Leafs W, 5-2 Boucher
Oct 25, 2010 Blue Jackets L, 2-1 Boucher
Oct 26, 2010 Sabres W, 6-3 Bobrovsky
Oct 29, 2010 Penguins W, 3-2 Bobrovsky
Oct 30, 2010 Islanders W, 6-1 Bobrovsky
Nov 1, 2010 Hurricanes W, 3-2 Bobrovsky
Nov 4, 2010 Rangers W, 4-1 Bobrovsky
Nov 6, 2010 Islanders W, 2-1 Bobrovsky
Nov 7, 2010 Capitals OTL, 2-1 Bobrovsky
Nov 11, 2010 Hurricanes W, 8-1 Bobrovsky
Nov 13, 2010 Panthers W, 5-2 Bobrovsky
Nov 15, 2010 Senators ? Bobrovsky

Michael Leighton didn't get his first chance in net until Boucher was injured against the Florida Panthers on December 21. Boucher wasn't out of the lineup for long, but as it played out, he wouldn't get another chance in net until March. Leighton started 11 straight games after Boucher went down, and Emery soon returned and started eight straight games. Leighton served as backup while Boucher became the third goaltender.

Emery went down with another injury in early February, and from there the net was all Leighton again. Boucher returned to the bench and watched Leighton start 13 straight games. Boucher got a chance to play in three of those games after Leighton started, but he didn't get a start of his own until Leighton went down to an injury of his own against Nashville on March 16.

Boucher was now the starter again, and with Jeremy Duchesne as the backup, it's easy to understand why Boucher was the only goaltender getting time. Finally, however, when Johan Backlund returned from an injury of his own, he sat a few games before getting a start against Pittsburgh on March 27.

The moral of the story? It took Peter Laviolette 46 games behind the Flyers bench before he gave his backup goaltender an actual start, whether that backup was Johan Backlund, Brian Boucher or Michael Leighton.

Of course, Backlund was hurt against Pittsburgh in that one start, so Boucher wound up playing half of that game anyway, and from that point on, it's hard to blame Laviolette for starting any goaltender but his starter. From the end of March until the end of the regular season, Boucher was backed up by some mix of Duchesne, Carter Hutton or Sebastien Caron, so we won't fault him there.

But we have to ask the question: is there any correlation between the amount of injuries the Flyers suffered at the goaltender position last season and the amount of games Laviolette made his starting goaltender play last season? It's an uneasy question to ask, but really, it has to be done.

Whether the answer is yes or no, it's kind of irrelevant. The fact of the matter is that goaltenders need rest. They'll never admit it, but they do. We're raising this topic now because it appears that Laviolette is going down the same path with Sergei Bobrovsky. Look at the second half of the above chart.

With the exception of a few starts at the beginning of the season when we weren't exactly sure who the clear-cut starter was on this team, Bobrovsky has been handed the reins. We're at double-digits when it comes to consecutive starts now.

It's hard not to give him the nod -- we all understand that. He's playing magnificent hockey and is turning himself into a rookie of the year candidate while doing it.

We have to remember, though, that he's already played 13 games this season and the year isn't even a fourth of the way over. 35 games is the most he's ever played in a season in his career to this point, and that wasn't even against the toughest competition in the world.

All of this -- Laviolette's unwillingness to start anybody but the starter and Bobrovsky's untested endurance -- seems to equate to a disaster in the long run. We're not asking for Laviolette to give his backup a ton of starts, but would a game or two, just to give Bobrovsky a rest, really hurt that much?

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Make sure you get my brooding side...

"Gentlemen, you can't fight in here, this is the war room."

by Grp_Cpt_Lionel_Mandrake on Nov 15, 2010 3:05 PM EST reply actions  

That’s his “It’s unacceptable” face.

Do you see what happens when you find a stranger in the Alps?

by mikefive on Nov 15, 2010 3:14 PM EST up reply actions  

I’ve only seen his “it’s unacceptable” and “bag skate for all you bitches” face.

His “hockey is a game for men” face is somewhere in between both of those.

Mourning Gagne forever.

by ToddtheFox on Nov 15, 2010 3:24 PM EST up reply actions  

To the tune of "Camptown Races":

Hockey is a game for men,
Doo-daahr, Doo-daahr,
Hockey is a game for men,
All the doo-dah day!
Starting goalie’s well;
Play him till he’s ill!
Injured goalie, Oh my God,
Why have you forsaken me?

Do you see what happens when you find a stranger in the Alps?

by mikefive on Nov 15, 2010 3:37 PM EST up reply actions   1 recs

Think Lavy is the NHL equivalent of Dusty Baker or is that too harsh an assessment?

Lex clavatoris designati rescindenda est.

by doubleh on Nov 15, 2010 4:01 PM EST up reply actions  

For the non-baseball fans

HH has really slammed Lavvy. Wow, will you now compare Boooosh to Danys Baez??

Thinking about asking my employer for an 11-year contract.

by Bud in TN on Nov 15, 2010 4:14 PM EST up reply actions  

I think Boosh has more talent, but honestly, Baez has some, too. He just had a horrible year and it’s not his fault that RAJ has a penchant for overpaying middling relievers. He could bounce back some, but probably not enough to justify the contract.

My slam with more in regard to his (over) usage of goaltenders. (for those who aren’t baseball fans, Dusty Baker rides almost every pitcher into the ground to the point of TJ surgery)

Lex clavatoris designati rescindenda est.

by doubleh on Nov 15, 2010 4:23 PM EST up reply actions  

But Baker is also an idiot in so many other ways, including nearly injuring his own child during a World Series.

Agree on the pitcher analogy, but I’d prefer maybe Jack McKeon or someone like that… generally good manager, with one strange decision problem.

Thinking about asking my employer for an 11-year contract.

by Bud in TN on Nov 15, 2010 4:26 PM EST up reply actions  

OK, how about Joe Torre, then? He ruined BP arms pretty frequently, save the indestructible Rivera. He’s an OK manager otherwise (although we see how often Mariano did bail out his ass once he left NY).

Lex clavatoris designati rescindenda est.

by doubleh on Nov 15, 2010 4:28 PM EST up reply actions  

Good call. Plus, Torre won some championships (who cares whether he was a good manager! :-))

Thinking about asking my employer for an 11-year contract.

by Bud in TN on Nov 15, 2010 4:29 PM EST up reply actions  

Whenever I read doubleh, I say it in my head as doub-leh.

Mourning Gagne forever.

by ToddtheFox on Nov 15, 2010 4:24 PM EST up reply actions  

That makes me sound so blah and meh-worthy.

Lex clavatoris designati rescindenda est.

by doubleh on Nov 15, 2010 4:29 PM EST up reply actions  

Not in my brain!

Mourning Gagne forever.

by ToddtheFox on Nov 15, 2010 4:30 PM EST up reply actions  

I used to think it was pronounced “doo-BLEH”, almost French.

Then she said her name was Heather and I figured it out!

Do I get a gold star?

Do you see what happens when you find a stranger in the Alps?

by mikefive on Nov 15, 2010 4:31 PM EST up reply actions  

I wasn’t the only one!

Mourning Gagne forever.

by ToddtheFox on Nov 15, 2010 4:33 PM EST up reply actions  

Well, I guess that’s better—sounds more hoighty-toighty and I’ve always like France so I can live with it.

Someone I knew always called me doubleh for my initials and said it was a tribute to Triple H, so I thought it was appropriate for a sports forum.

Lex clavatoris designati rescindenda est.

by doubleh on Nov 15, 2010 4:34 PM EST up reply actions  

Too harsh.

Do you see what happens when you find a stranger in the Alps?

by mikefive on Nov 15, 2010 4:31 PM EST up reply actions  

I have lessened it to Joe Torre levels. But he definitely has a problem and should seek treatment.

Lex clavatoris designati rescindenda est.

by doubleh on Nov 15, 2010 4:33 PM EST up reply actions  

Love it!

Lightning strikes once, Hextall strikes twice!

by hintzy64 on Nov 16, 2010 1:30 PM EST up reply actions  

Last year I thought the explanation could be that wins were so important because of the Flyers position in the standings that Lavy had to start who he thought would get the win.

This year, I’m not sure what his angle is.

Mourning Gagne forever.

by ToddtheFox on Nov 15, 2010 3:05 PM EST reply actions  

His angle is, “It worked in the 1970s!”

My main concern is that Bob has not played an NHL season.

Do you see what happens when you find a stranger in the Alps?

by mikefive on Nov 15, 2010 3:07 PM EST up reply actions  

Exactly. Wins are still important this season (when are they not). But keeping your 22yo Russian heartthrob tender fresh during the season is surely important too.

Mourning Gagne forever.

by ToddtheFox on Nov 15, 2010 3:11 PM EST up reply actions  


22 year-old Russian heartBob.

Do you see what happens when you find a stranger in the Alps?

by mikefive on Nov 15, 2010 3:37 PM EST up reply actions  

You’re a Word Wizard, Mike.

Mourning Gagne forever.

by ToddtheFox on Nov 15, 2010 4:00 PM EST up reply actions  

I used to teach English.

That is why.

Thank you.

Do you see what happens when you find a stranger in the Alps?

by mikefive on Nov 15, 2010 4:39 PM EST up reply actions  

Don’t you mean, “Wwwyzzerdd”?

Do you see what happens when you find a stranger in the Alps?

by mikefive on Nov 15, 2010 4:41 PM EST up reply actions  

I don’t think so, but then you’re the expert. So I’ll defer to you.

Mourning Gagne forever.

by ToddtheFox on Nov 15, 2010 4:49 PM EST up reply actions  

A Sorcerer of Syllables!
An Alchemist of Adjectives!
A Necromancer of Nouns!
An Enchanter of Expressions!
A Conjurer of Colloquialisms!
An Illusionist of Idioms!
A Theurgist (thanks, thesaurus.com!) of Terminology!
The Voldemort of Vocabulary!

Lightning strikes once, Hextall strikes twice!

by hintzy64 on Nov 16, 2010 1:45 PM EST up reply actions  

Or perhaps just a cunning linguist?

Lightning strikes once, Hextall strikes twice!

by hintzy64 on Nov 16, 2010 1:45 PM EST up reply actions  

By the way, my sister totally agreed with me and his being adorible. The exact quote was: he’s like a baby animal! But a person!
See? Lavvy loves him too!! I say the Bob surpasses Beibs in fame. It will happen. The obvious similarities are how young they look and they are both imports.
Strap some Orsis and skinny jeans and shiney bowl-swishy hair, make him sing like a girl, and you got a multimilion heartthrob!!

Let's do it again

by Cillo stache on Nov 15, 2010 3:55 PM EST up reply actions  

I think it’s just what he does. Didn’t this happen with Ward in Carolina, too? It’s possible he just doesn’t believe goaltenders need the rest afforded by sitting a game.

by Snevik on Nov 15, 2010 3:13 PM EST up reply actions  

That would be a weird belief.

Mourning Gagne forever.

by ToddtheFox on Nov 15, 2010 3:21 PM EST up reply actions  

Starting goalies don’t get worked much in day-to-day practice, so it’s not cult-member-crazy. I don’t think the cause of most of those injuries last year had anything to do with getting the amount of game action they did. I think it had more to do with getting action at all on injuries that had never fully healed.

by Snevik on Nov 15, 2010 3:37 PM EST up reply actions  

I’m trying to find a most consecutive starts stat, but I can’t. I’d be interested to know which tender has started the most games in a row this season.

Mourning Gagne forever.

by ToddtheFox on Nov 15, 2010 3:46 PM EST up reply actions  

That would be interesting…

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by Geoff Detweiler on Nov 15, 2010 3:57 PM EST up reply actions  

strokes mustache interesting indeed

See what you are missing out on by not participating in Movember Geoff.

Is this the right room for an argument?

by DLJr on Nov 15, 2010 4:08 PM EST up reply actions  

stupid formatting for bold…that was meant to read as an action.

Is this the right room for an argument?

by DLJr on Nov 15, 2010 4:08 PM EST up reply actions  

/Desperate searches for a moustache comb

It always looks presentable.

The only way I could find out most consecutive starts is go through the game logs, and I don’t wanna.

Mourning Gagne forever.

by ToddtheFox on Nov 15, 2010 4:13 PM EST up reply actions  

You missed Saturday night. pearl snap, moustache, a lot of alcohol, and Geoff calling me a hipster…good times

Is this the right room for an argument?

by DLJr on Nov 15, 2010 4:17 PM EST up reply actions  

I really hope I have no hipster cred.

Is this the right room for an argument?

by DLJr on Nov 15, 2010 4:26 PM EST up reply actions  

If they could see your hop pearl snap…

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by Geoff Detweiler on Nov 15, 2010 4:36 PM EST up reply actions  

That thing is awesome, I don’t care what you say!

Is this the right room for an argument?

by DLJr on Nov 15, 2010 5:42 PM EST up reply actions  

You probably do. It’s not your fault. You had the “cred” already and they appropriated it, just like they appropriated everything else.

Do you see what happens when you find a stranger in the Alps?

by mikefive on Nov 15, 2010 4:36 PM EST up reply actions  

Or a belief that every goalie was the second coming of Plante or Sawchuk.

Thinking about asking my employer for an 11-year contract.

by Bud in TN on Nov 15, 2010 4:17 PM EST up reply actions  

He did it in the second half of the year. I remember looking at it before – I’ll search for it shortly – and he tended to give Ward a break after 5-6 starts, but that stopped once the calendar hit February or so.

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by Geoff Detweiler on Nov 15, 2010 3:28 PM EST up reply actions  

Here’s the link: http://www.broadstreethockey.com/2010/3/18/1379872/game-70-preview-and-game-thread#32830468

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by Geoff Detweiler on Nov 15, 2010 3:42 PM EST up reply actions  

You could really make the argument that the game he started Backlund was the only time he started the clear number two in his lineup during his tenure thusfar. Even then, it was only because he was looking to replace Boucher going forward.

There’s ample evidence to say he has never played his backup at all.

by Snevik on Nov 15, 2010 3:07 PM EST reply actions  

Is it time to start another “Free Boosh” campaign?

Flyers fan since 1983. I missed the good stuff.

by Sakurafire on Nov 15, 2010 3:08 PM EST reply actions  

Ouvrez la Boosh!

Do you see what happens when you find a stranger in the Alps?

by mikefive on Nov 15, 2010 3:13 PM EST up reply actions  

+1 Awesome.

Flyers fan since 1983. I missed the good stuff.

by Sakurafire on Nov 15, 2010 3:19 PM EST up reply actions  

Fermez le Boosh!
(bouch in french is mouth! which I find amusing.)

Let's do it again

by Cillo stache on Nov 15, 2010 3:57 PM EST up reply actions  

Fetchez la vache!

Lightning strikes once, Hextall strikes twice!

by hintzy64 on Nov 16, 2010 1:47 PM EST up reply actions  

I started it a few games ago. I will continue it until Boucher gets a start. Feel free to join me!

I was already biting my nails as Bob has gotten start after start. Now seeing these stats I am super nervous. What the hell is Laviolette thinking? You wanna know the best way to make a rookie goalie regress from a brilliant start? Pretend like he is Martin Broduer!

Plus, Boucher has been patient and team player his entire time with the Flyers. Why does he get punished for having a team centered attitude? What could Boosh have possibly done to get ignored by Lavy? Also, I think that the Flyers can win whether Boucher is in the net or Bobrovsky. The Flyers’ poor record when Boucher starts is not a reflection of him. He makes all the stops needed to win.

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by Mitchell Green on Nov 15, 2010 3:25 PM EST up reply actions  

I’m good with this.

/Geoff’d

Thinking about asking my employer for an 11-year contract.

by Bud in TN on Nov 15, 2010 4:28 PM EST up reply actions  

You know it.

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by Geoff Detweiler on Nov 15, 2010 4:37 PM EST up reply actions  

On a slightly more serious note, while I don’t like the idea of Lavvy playing favorites against Boosh unnecessarily, (since I do actually like having Boosh as a backup) it does seem worse from a hockey outcome point of view if he really is into some overblown form of “hot goalie” disease as opposed to just anti-Boosh. Travis’ research is really pretty startling.

Thinking about asking my employer for an 11-year contract.

by Bud in TN on Nov 15, 2010 4:37 PM EST up reply actions  

Wow.

"Can Geico really save you 15% or more on your car insurance? Is Mike Green really a forward in defenseman's clothing"

by FlyerGuy18 on Nov 15, 2010 3:14 PM EST reply actions  

I think he’ll give Bob some breaks when Leighton is back. That is until Leighton suffers a setback and is out for the year.

What can't Giroux do?

by tmurder on Nov 15, 2010 3:18 PM EST reply actions  

Why would he do that when Leighton returns? You really think Leighton is better than Boucher?

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by Mitchell Green on Nov 15, 2010 3:26 PM EST up reply actions  

Goalie can rest when they’re injured.

"Call me dumb, call me stupid, whatever. I block shots."

by boknows71 on Nov 15, 2010 3:21 PM EST reply actions  

Goalies can rest when they’re dead.

by Snevik on Nov 15, 2010 3:38 PM EST up reply actions  

Seven Goalies To Play in Philadelphia When They’re Dead.

Do you see what happens when you find a stranger in the Alps?

by mikefive on Nov 15, 2010 3:39 PM EST up reply actions  

You figured it out.

Lavy plays Bobs into the ground, knowing he will get injured in a month or so, and then he has Leights to run into the ground. Hopefully Bobs is back by March for the playoffs. Lavy knows what he is doing, he has done it since the Canes, run his goalies till they are injured, and if they don’t get injured, then he gets a championship. Good plan, let’s hope Bobs’ injury is not too severe that he won’t be back for the playoffs.

by NickFotiu4HOF on Nov 15, 2010 11:46 PM EST up reply actions  

It’ll be time to worry about it if he starts him tonight and tomorrow. I figure he’ll start Bob tonight at home and Boosh on the road in Montreal, but if he starts Bob in both, then there’s something going on.

by youaretheman26 on Nov 15, 2010 3:21 PM EST reply actions  

He’s already started Bob in two back-to-backs in the last 10 games.

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by Travis Hughes on Nov 15, 2010 3:22 PM EST up reply actions  

That’s where I’m at too, he’s already done it twice in 10 games… I’m thinking he couldn’t possibly have Bob start tomorrow too but just remembering last year + reading this article I can’t help but think I’m probably wrong.

by grucifer on Nov 15, 2010 3:33 PM EST up reply actions  

Giving a rookie European goalie 10 straight starts is more than enough enough reason to be worried. Very worried, in fact.

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by Mitchell Green on Nov 15, 2010 3:28 PM EST up reply actions  

I really hope in this case the third time’s the charm. Even if Bob says he likes back-to-back starts he does need a rest and I really want Boosh starting, but we’ll see what he does.

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by Lindbergh 31 on Nov 15, 2010 3:52 PM EST up reply actions  

I would love to see how Sergei plays in the playoffs, but with the facts laid out above we will never see it happen. He is going to beat this kid into the ground until he has nothing left to give. Then we are going to need to find someone to play the second half of the season. Does anyone in this organization acknowledge this as an issue and the need to look out for Sergei getting tired?? You need to ask this tonight when you get a chance.

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by MJDII on Nov 15, 2010 3:41 PM EST reply actions  

I think his grade nine math teacher was an ex-goalie and failed his ass. This is his revenge.

by Gonzotatcics on Nov 15, 2010 4:16 PM EST reply actions  

I would of though looking at the fixtures that Bob has just played and the next few coming up that if he didn’t trust Boosh Florida would of been the one to rest Bob in.

He’s certainly on a hot streak right now and you would want him playing against the Caps and the Habs. You also want him against the Lightning.

So if your going to rest him you either do it tonight against the Sens or you wait until we face the Wild in 6 games.

Unless you course you don’t rest him or he gets injured. Neither of those are prospects I relish.

On the plus side with the way Bob has been talking about the way he’s constantly been playing hockey since he arrived this might be a good thing as it’s kept him busy meaning it’s harder for him to get home sick.

by FlyingCanary on Nov 15, 2010 4:17 PM EST reply actions  

I don’t know, I guess i’m just a worrier. That’s why my friends call me whiskers!

by KornontheKobb on Nov 15, 2010 4:34 PM EST up reply actions  

Pete has figured out the goalie issue

Run them into the ground, then anoint the backup as his successor!

inter arma enim silent leges

by CoburnsCuddleBuddy on Nov 15, 2010 4:32 PM EST reply actions  

Who’s up for some Emery?

Oh. Wait. His career ended. Kinda.

Peter, this isn’t quantum physics. You play good goalie many time, he get boo-boo. You play new one. New one get boo-boo. Put in old goalie. See? Now stop it. There you go, see? Was it that hard to write those five little letters? If your a good boy, you get some gum! And all the people chant Booooosh. Doesn’t that sound like fun?

Let's do it again

by Cillo stache on Nov 15, 2010 4:37 PM EST reply actions  

The reasoning is very simple and we all done it. He played Chicago in NHL93 and got 82 straight wins with Belfour in net outscoring the opposition by a minimum of a 7 to 1 margin. If it worked then it should work now

by ic0n67 on Nov 15, 2010 5:38 PM EST reply actions  

Bob or Bust..

I think coach is just gonna run with Bob until he falls down. He’ll deal with it then. Whether its right or wrong he’ll play Bob until its obvious he needs out or he starts losing. The problem with this is last year when Boosh got thrust into action he was decidedly rusty. He got hot in time but you can’t promise that’ll happen again. The eggs of a whole season could be putting into a 22 year old rookie because his play is off the charts right now. Time will tell..hopefully coach will know when the time is right to rest him.

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by skootrboi on Nov 15, 2010 6:06 PM EST via mobile reply actions  

rest him????

ok… i admit i’m not the expert on hockey but if a forward or d man can play 82 games a year plus the playoffs why can’t a goalie play nearly every game? Its not like he’s taking any hits (to speak of) or logging ice time skating… he’s f***in standing around most of the time… if bob plays every game, so what. If its a problem, then explain it to me… on another note, i sure hope the next player the flyers lock up is leino… the guy is a gift from the hockey gods… getting him made holmgren look like a genius which is saying a lot… i mean a lot… now if they can find a way to get rid of JVR and get something in return that would be good… any player who takes a “benching” in stride is a loser… send him to the rangers… its his favorite team anyway!

by Elmo the faithful fan on Nov 15, 2010 6:27 PM EST reply actions  

The amount of sweat a goalie loses in a game is probably more than I weigh. “Standing around” isn’t really accurate at all.

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by Travis Hughes on Nov 15, 2010 6:31 PM EST up reply actions  

He’s not standing around even a third of the time. You always have to be ready, whether it’s for a shot on goal, or to go stop the puck behind your net, or get ready to avoid being Vesa Toskala. Not to mention the amount of mental acuity it takes to stay sharp for 60 minutes, or the wear and tear on the hip by going into the butterfly probably 40-50 times a game, saying goalies just “stand around” most of the time is wildly inaccurate.

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by Geoff Detweiler on Nov 15, 2010 6:42 PM EST up reply actions  

Wow. Have you ever been a goalie, or talked to one?

“..just standing around” is possibly the most erroneous statement I’ve ever read.

Read this article and maybe you’ll have a better appreciation of what being a goalie can do to your body.

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by ToddtheFox on Nov 15, 2010 6:49 PM EST up reply actions  

I can’t even begin to address this…

Standing around, indeed.

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by hintzy64 on Nov 16, 2010 1:50 PM EST up reply actions  

Rest is definitely needed but maybe Bob is just better conditioned. He also can’t understand the training staff which could account for past issues. Also was emerys injury really from playing? It sounded like a degenerative bone/hip disease. I trust Boosh to go against Montreal tomorrow. He has to fight for a job

by srv1084 on Nov 15, 2010 7:07 PM EST via mobile reply actions  

Huh? Look Im all for a bunch of games right after the next, but there have been times where there are 3-4 day breaks between the two games. Thats considered a break. He doesnt need a 6-7 day break. If anything that could hurt him more then help him. I will be perfectly fine if Bob plays around 50 games or so.

by sa cyred on Nov 15, 2010 8:40 PM EST reply actions  

He’s on pace to play about 60 (if my terrible math is right, which it might not be). Plus playoffs. So, about 80.

More than double the amount of games he’s ever played.

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by Travis Hughes on Nov 15, 2010 8:51 PM EST up reply actions  

It has been done before. Quick is one goalie who has done it. Right now they are riding the hot hand. Once Bob loses one game (WSH didnt count, ot loss against a really good team), Boosh will then get a start. Personally I think Lavy doesnt trust Boosh. I wouldnt be surprised that once Leighton gets back, Bob would get more rest games.

by sa cyred on Nov 15, 2010 9:18 PM EST up reply actions  

And yet Quick went 2-7-3 in his final 14 games last year.

11 of his final 15 games saw him stop 89.3% of the shots or fewer.

Quick wore out and it showed.

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by Geoff Detweiler on Nov 15, 2010 9:45 PM EST up reply actions  

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