Wednesday Morning Fly By: The Spectrum Starts To Fall
by Geoff Detweiler on Nov 24, 2010 10:52 AM EST
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PrintToday's open discussion thread, complete with your daily dose of Philadelphia Flyers news and notes...
- Tons of stories about the Spectrum coming down: [BSH] [Philly Sports Daily] [Crossing Broad] [NHL.com] [Inquirer] [Bob Ford] [Dan Geringer] [Frank Fitzpatrick] [Sam Carchidi] [Stan Hochman]
- Stefan Legein will be out at least three weeks for the Phantoms, and other notes from yesterday: [PostStar.com]
- Ville Leino might have to wait for an extension due to the Flyers salary cap: [Daily News]
- It was a night of redemption for both Brian Boucher and James van Riemsdyk: [Philly Sports Daily]
- The Flyers signed veteran Michael Ryan for the Phantoms: [Frequent Flyers]
- The Flyers also signed 20 year old defenseman Brandon Manning: [potnoodlez]
- Claude Giroux gets more love for his play: [NHL.com]
- The NHL published it's quarter-of-the-season awards. Sergei Bobrovsky gets their Calder [NHL.com] and Paul Holmgren gets GM of the Year [NHL.com]
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Doesn’t he have like 3 SHA too?
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by Ed Van Chimp on Nov 24, 2010 11:35 AM EST up reply actions
GM of the year at the quarter pole huh…talk about making an insular award even more meaningless. But then again, I guess this makes it Homer 1, Don 0 on the scoreboard.
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Based on?
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by Geoff Detweiler on Nov 24, 2010 11:11 AM EST up reply actions
Here’s my issue with the award in general, it’s a GM of the year award, and I feel like it’s tough to give it based on just a year is being short sided. But then again I guess you can’t really just give it out once every X amount of years either. My problem is though, people say Homer builds teams that win, so he does a good job. If that’s the case, shouldn’t the President’s trophy winner or the Stanley Cup champions’ GM win the award then? Homer went out and made the 3rd pair better, and has a goalie not penciled in to play in the NHL this year as his #1. To me that doesn’t scream GM of the year b/c he didn’t have to do much. Is his team winning yes, but if it is, then (as I said before) why don’t you just give it to the GM of the team that wins the Presidents Trophy or the Stanley Cup. They don’t do it that way, and they shouldn’t. He had to improve a 3rd pairing and had a Russian Goaltender fall in to his lap for the starting role this year…that doesn’t scream GM of the Year to me.
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You touch on my biggest gripe over the summer: When I criticized him, all anybody’s response was “He wins” and “He made the team better.” It’s never been about that.
But it is tough to argue with the Carter and Giroux contracts. Even though I don’t want Carter, that’s a pretty good deal.
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by Geoff Detweiler on Nov 24, 2010 11:41 AM EST up reply actions
Yeah I agree those were both good value signings, maybe Carter’s wasn’t a good fit in our eyes, but they are definitely good value signings.
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I think long term it will end up being a good fit. But right here and now, it’s cramped because of the depth at center. It’s a great deal in and of itself though.
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The Flyers have 3 centers with a total cap hit of ~$17.5 mil per year through the 2014/2015 season. Giroux isn’t included in that. If they figure out a way to move Briere as he declines with age, it’ll be a lot less crowded up the middle. But we’ll see what happens. I can’t argue the value you though.
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Having the ability to swing G from Center to wing is a huge bonus though. Yes, it’s a nice chunk of change tied up at center, but that’s been a philosphy of the Flyers for ages. Strong up the center since the GM days of Clarke (who I believe drafted many of these guys but have no time to double check that).
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Wait, if winning and making the team matter does matter because its ‘never been about that’, what exactly is it about then?
You’ve been on the site long enough to know what it was about. Feel free to go back and look at any of the 8,000 discussions we had about it over the off season (which is why Geoff didn’t go in to detail again about that whole debate).
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Really, you are seriously referring to Gagne here? Yeah forget the stuff I said about waiting for the Goalie FA market to set itself, or waiting for the dman market to set itself. Forget all of that stuff. Forget about maximizing contract value in the off season.
Gagne has nothing to do with what I am talking about. Re-read my response to JpH and come to the table with more than a Gagne reference.
If you want me to take you seriously, understand where I am coming from.
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Four years ago the Flyers only had 22 wins for the season. For the next 3 seasons, they have made the playoffs each year, last year going all the way to the finals.
I just don’t get it. Are people still bitter about the Gagne thing? As pissed off as I was at the time, even that turned out to be a good call. I am sure we will miss him come playoff time, but at what cost financially. In the post-lockout, salary cap world we live in now, you can’t afford to keep expensive players on just out of loyalty.
In the post-lockout, salary cap world we live in now, you can’t afford to keep expensive players on just out of loyalty.
You also can’t afford to overpay for a goon, a glorified NHL backup, and a third-pairing defenseman while gutting your AHL team of young, cost effective prospects.
But yeah, it’s all about Gagne.
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by Geoff Detweiler on Nov 24, 2010 1:45 PM EST up reply actions
1) In general my comment is about the GM of the Year award and how I feel like it’s a somewhat meaningless award to begin with b/c it is limited to a year in theory. It’s just an odd award to me, and I think giving it at the quarter pole is even more odd.
2) Homers job in the offseason was to improve the 3rd pairing and sign a goaltender. Did he improve the 3rd pairing sure, did he sign a goaltender, yep. Did he maximize value and cap space in either missing, no! O’Donnell was a great signing, but why trade for a $4mil dman before you see what the market is at for that position. There was far more value you out there for the money. He did the exact same thing with Leights, signing him before the market hit, and revealed it was an over payment. In fact what I am saying here is in complete agreement with what you say.
3) My opinion of him is in no way affected by Gagne. I actually think Snider wanted gagne gone, and that Homer had nothing to really do with it.
4) How does over paying for a 3rd pairing, and having the #1 goalie you signed in the off season get hurt, and lucking in to Bob make him GM of the year. I can see the argument for the value resignings of Giroux and Carter, but the rest of this has come at the cost of an over payment and luck.
It’s like you never paid attention to anything I’ve ever said about Homer, and you assume I have some kind of Kat-like vandetta against him (no offense Kat) for getting rid of Gagne.
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And I didn’t even bring up the waste of cap space that Shelley is, or what Homer had to take in return for Gagne in Walker’s contract. F’ing hell, none of that screams GM of the year to me, and none of it has to do with gagne being in another city.
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Sorry I’m spazzing, but when people don’t pay attention and make ridiculous assumptions and claims it sends me off a f’ing cliff.
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Listen, I’m not going to bother paying attention to either of your two previous posts, but I feel safe in assuming that you are still upset from when the Flyers traded away Jiri Dopita.
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by Grp_Cpt_Lionel_Mandrake on Nov 24, 2010 2:19 PM EST up reply actions
Funny you should say that…I saw a Jiri Dopita jersey at the game against Montreal, I got a kick out of that.
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An real Jiri Dopita jersey? It might have actually been Jiri Dopita himself.
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by Grp_Cpt_Lionel_Mandrake on Nov 24, 2010 2:28 PM EST up reply actions
When I read the headline, I nearly flipped. But then when I read the article, I wasn’t so angry. I mean, I still disagree, but whatevs.
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by Geoff Detweiler on Nov 24, 2010 11:12 AM EST up reply actions
Shouldn’t a GM who can’t resign an up and coming player due to his own cap mis management automatically be disqualified from winning any type of GM of the Year award? Theoretical or not?
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But he wins!
That technically doesn’t impact what he did for THIS year though. Not that I’m disagreeing with you, I’m just splitting hairs.
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But he wins!
Then why doesn’t the GM of the Year award always go to either the GM of the team who wins the Presidents Trophy or the Stanley Cup?
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Because sometimes it’s about doing more with less.
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That’s my point…
I’m saying just b/c the team wins doesn’t mean Homer is the best GM, and if you want to say he is great b/c his team wins, I can point to every team that has had a better record, or gone further in the playoffs every year since he has been a GM and say, “well isn’t that guy better according to your theory”.
And having a GM award for 1 years worth of work just seems odd to me in a salary cap NHL, but I wouldn’t know how else to do it unless they wanted to get rid of the award.
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I agree with you. And Homer has an advantage that not every GM does…he has an owner willing to spend to the max to win.
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And I’m not trying to say he is the worst GM here either. People mistake criticism for that far too often (not saying you obviously, just in general), I just don’t see, given the tasks required this off season for the Flyers, what has made Homer measurably better than any other GM this year (other than the G and Carter extensions, which to me get canceled out b/c he can’t extend Leino yet).
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I agree with you completely. There was little Homer had to do to improve this team’s holes from last year. Did he do it Yes. But at what cost?
At the time I was against moving Gagne, considering how little(see: nothing) he has done in Tampa it seems like it was the right move. Getting back Mez was great but he is another albatross contract that only Homer would be dumb enough to take. Matt Walker….really? Really?
Shelley….Carcillo…pick one, not both, yet Homer did exactly that?
Leighton…a career backup with one good year signs a contract at, at least twice market value, and for 2 years?
In reality, Homer should be on his knees every night, and sometimes during the day thanking God that Bob has literally saved this teams season. Imagine if Bob wasn’t good and Boucher was the starter? It’s scary to think about.
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I wish I could put things as clearly and succinctly as you. I just ram thoughts together in a hurried fashioned.
On the flip side, how much credit goes to Homer for getting Bob here?
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Hahah thanks.
To be honest, I don’t know what, if any credit Homer deserves for Bob. Geoff would probably be able to better answer that question.
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Yeah, I was kind of asking in general, hoping someone could fill me in with a little more info.
Also, how the hell did I end up putting an ed at the end of fashion…I really need to starting reading over what i type before I hit post. /facepalm
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All I remember about Bob was that he was something of a consolation prize. The Flyers wanted Jussi Rynas (after failing to land Jonas Gustavsson last year) and instead got Bobrovsky.
And no Flyers scout saw Bobrovsky play live, so… In my educated but uncertain opinion, the Flyers got lucky.
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by Geoff Detweiler on Nov 24, 2010 4:06 PM EST up reply actions
The thing is: If he would just waive Matt Walker, he could sign Leino to a $2.5 million deal.
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by Geoff Detweiler on Nov 24, 2010 1:27 PM EST up reply actions
$2.5 is a lot for Leino, no matter how well hes playing right now. You don’t give a guy whos been in the league this long and only has 1 good playoffs that kind of money.
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Manny Malhotra signed for $2.5 million last offseason. As did Colby Armstrong.
Alex Frolov and Matt Cullen signed for $3 and $3.5 respectively.
$2 million seems like a minimum for him.
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by Geoff Detweiler on Nov 24, 2010 2:04 PM EST up reply actions
Leino is way younger than Malhotra or Amstrong in terms of experience in the NHL isn’t he?
Is there a max contract for a player who has only played 116 games in the NHL? I thought for your first two years you could only be signed for x ammount, maximum?
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by KreiderDesigns on Nov 24, 2010 2:08 PM EST up reply actions
Leino is way younger in experience, but neither Armstrong nor Malhotra are offensive players. They’re third-line grinders who chip in 10-15 goals.
I’m not positive about a max contract, but if there is one (I think you’re right), it applies to Entry Level Contracts, not Leino.
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by Geoff Detweiler on Nov 24, 2010 4:07 PM EST up reply actions
I love the Giroux article, particu;arly this part
“When you sign for three years and you know you’re with a good organization you feel good about yourself,” Giroux told NHL.com. “Hopefully I can be here longer than just the next three years.”
What the article doesn’t mention is how Giroux then peaked over his shoulder to see Homer struggling in front of an abacus trying to figure out what to do in 3 years when he has 3 centers already signed for a combined cap hit of over $17.5mil and Giroux is up for a contract again.
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Move G to wing, where he is playing now.
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by Ed Van Chimp on Nov 24, 2010 11:37 AM EST up reply actions
Hmm maybe I’m wrong but I thought they were playing Carter more on the wing:
Last few games:
Sens: Carter took 5 faceoffs, Giroux took 17.
Habs: Carter took 8 faceoffs, Giroux took 20.
Bolts: Carter took 4 faceoffs, Giroux took 12.
Caps: Cater took 7 faceoffs, Giroux took 15.
Habs: Carter took 3 faceoffs, Giroux took 14.
Now I just looked that up quickly, so I didn’t look in to what was ES versus PP versus PK, so I could be wrong, but I thought Carter was playing the wing more.
But really, thanks for killing the joke I was trying to make.
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For some reason I thought I had seen G playing some wing. Kinda sucks moving your best FO guy(Carter) to the Wing.
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by Ed Van Chimp on Nov 24, 2010 12:09 PM EST up reply actions
Either way your point stands, someone will be playing the wing. I was just making a joke to be funny. The biggest problem in 4 years with the centers, when the G’s contract is up, is that Briere will be turning 37 to start the 2014 season and his cap hit will be $6.5mil still.
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Also, Carter has taken half as many faceoffs as G has so far this season. I still think Carter is the best faceoff guy on the team, but I can’t imagine him sustaining 64%.
Side Note: Nodl is 2 for 2. The man is simply a beast.
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Even if Carter drops 10% and starts taking more faceoffs, he’d still be the best on the team
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Agreed:
I still think Carter is the best faceoff guy on the team
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Stop ignoring the most important part of the post…
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The part where you sad Nodl is better than Carter at everything. No I got that message
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To something more serious, you think they start looking at ways to move Briere next season or beyond?
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I said something serious, why would you respond?
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Subtle jab?
I don’t see him getting moved. He is sort of the poster child for our team. Find any non-fan and they know Briere is on our team, but many don’t know Richards is the captain. Briere is a good player who is capible of making many many goals, assuming he continues playing the way he is. Why would they want to trade him, other than the cap? Sign him for less than he currently is getting, which is too much at the moment. He is overpaid, but really belongs here now.
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by Cillo stache on Nov 24, 2010 2:32 PM EST up reply actions
Just giving you shit for talking about stuff non Carbomb related.
The cap is the reason they’d want to trade him, and their depth at center. And I’m not saying now, I’m saying next year and beyond. Philadelphia doesn’t have to rely on having Briere as a marketable player, they don’t struggle selling tickets, jerseys, or getting nationally televised games. In addition, they have both veteran faces, and young stars coming up. they can’t just sign him for less. He will be a $6.5 mil cap hit through age 37 and the 2014/15 season. Granted he has a NMC, so it’ll make it tough, but with Carter and Richards locked up through 2022 and 2020 respectively, and you would assume the desire to lock up Grioux long term after his next contract is up, that you might start looking to move an aging large contract while you still can in the next couple of seasons rather than having a 36 and 37 year old Briere eating up a huge chunk of cap space.
That was my thought in asking, and why I’m curious what people think. This isn’t a lets trade Briere immediately now type of a thing, this isn’t even me saying I don’t like Briere (I do), this is just me being curious about the future, and what other people think.
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Hahah, oh. That makes sense now.
But I know you meant not now, we still have him for a while. I feel like unless he has an absolutely stellar season before/during the 2014/15 season, he would be willing to take a lower pay. He knows it will not be as easy as before getting a spot (certainly not hard, but will probably offer less) because he is going to be older. Also, he is rooted here and his kid blah, blah, blah. Main line is unless he comes cheap, he might not be resigned. Reasons he might not be resigned: the cap, his age, the fact there are young Phantoms players like Wellwood who don’t get paid as much coming up, and well, who knows, it’s Homer. I do see him being resigned when the time comes. Will every one be happy about the price? Thats the question. Chances are they over pay him, like Walker and most of the other summer trades, but if thats the worst, who cares? He’s still a good player.
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by Cillo stache on Nov 24, 2010 2:53 PM EST up reply actions
I think you are missing the point, Briere has a guaranteed contract, with a no movement clause and a cap hit of $6.5mil through 2015. This takes Danny to age 37, so his current contract may be his last contract ever (obviously his last major contract, any subsequent contracts will be short term for far less). Danny will be 35 during the 2012/13 season, 36 during the 2013/14 season, and 37 during the 2014/15 season. Will his skill set start to decline before then? That’s kind of my point, the Flyers are stuck with him at that Cap Hit, they can’t get him for less, so do they start looking to move him in the 2011/12 season, or 2012/13 season while he still has some value.
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You can look to move him all you want, but the reality is that you are going to be doing another salary dump deal in the Gagne mold and forcing him to waive a NMC.
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by Ed Van Chimp on Nov 24, 2010 4:17 PM EST up reply actions
Yeah, I’m going to have to go with this.
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by Geoff Detweiler on Nov 24, 2010 4:32 PM EST up reply actions
Please. Let’s not use Gags as a comparison. At least for another 10 years, per say. It’s still fresh, ya know?
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I don’t know if that’s true. I feel if handled differently, you can get some return, or more so not be forced to take a bad contract back. Meaning, don’t go over the cap, don’t put yourself in a corner, and approach Briere before hand. My main goal of moving Briere would be a salary dump any way. I just don’t want the Matt Walker contract coming back to the Flyers. So I’m good with a salary dump deal in order to free up money to bring in young wingers for the long list of centers they will still have available.
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Why? I just don’t understand it. Why are we giving away assets for nothing? It makes no sense to me. Plus Paul Holmgren has already painted himself into the corner, so nobody is going to bite and give him anything good. Other than maybe Sutter or Sather or something.
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by Ed Van Chimp on Nov 25, 2010 3:41 PM EST up reply actions
Because in 2-3 years he may no longer be an asset to this team. It depends on a lot of things. It’s a hypothetical issue in the future I felt like discussing. B/c unlike most people here, I still don’t by into the whole someone will move to wing thing, b/c frankly to have that much money tied up in your top 3 centers still isn’t necessarily a good thing. The Flyers can role 3 scoring lines now b/c they have young kids performing very well on EL deals and Leino on Detroit’s deal. That may not be the case in a couple years, and I’m just thinking about it b/c it’s something that has popped in to my head since they signed Carter long term.
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I have no idea. Given that Carter, Giroux and Briere should all be convertible to a wing, I don’t think so. I see Carle as being moved though.
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You can’t replace Briere’s skill behind the net, he is amazing. I can see him, as he ages, being moved back to wing maybe. I just think that is too much money to have wrapped up in him at that age, especially when it can be used on wingers. If they can get him to waive his NMC over the next couple years (read not this season), I would not be opposed to moving him.
If they do keep all 4 of the “centers” they best start developing some young cheap talent in the future or trade for some to fill out the forward spots. Giroux and JVR being on EL contracts, and having Leino on his deal from the Detroit, are the reasons the Flyers can role 3 scoring lines. Plus grabbing a banished Russian sniper on the cheap helps too. Though depending on how the Dmen in the system pan out, they may get some great value from them in the future, and Briere’s contract won’t seem so bad.
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I know weird question with way too many unknowns, but no one is in the office today, and my head started to wander off. But it’s quitting time, so I’m off for now.
My thoughts are with the miners over our holiday weekend!!!
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There certainly won’t be many options to move him due to the cap hit, the NMC and his age.
Pretty tragic event for the families and that community. It is really small, and relies on the mines for much of its income.
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I heard it the other morning on TV when I was getting ready for work. It’s something I might not have heard otherwise, but since I now know someone in New Zealand, my ears immediately perked up.
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I saw this on the Wild SBN site this morning:
“The Wild will recall 6-foot-5 defenseman Justin Falk and 6-foot-5 winger Matt Kassian. Both will be in Minnesota in time for tomorrow’s tilt with the Flyers, which will also feature the Wild debut of Patrick O’Sullivan. Both of these players are large individuals, and Kassian is an enforcer. You think the Wild are prepping for a throw down with Philly?”
I find it amusing that as soon as the Flyers come to town, the local media starts talking up the physical play (i.e., code word for goons).
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by CoburnsCuddleBuddy on Nov 24, 2010 11:54 AM EST up reply actions
I’m back from a completely useless 2 hour school day! Happy early thanksgiving, and I am thankful for the Flyers. And Giroux, and Gange. I would be really thankful for Ask a Flyer Carcillo….
Predictions for Wilds game? Predictions for how many times you think in your head how ugly their jerseys are? Forrest puke and trees.
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I do think those jerseys are truly horrendous. It’s tough to sit through the entire game because I just hate red and green together unless it’s a Christmas tree.
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Hockey belongs in Minny. I don’t care if they wear clown costumes out there, I’m just thankful they have a team again.
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I didn’t say they shouldn’t have a hockey team—I just loathe the unis. I’d love to see them wear clown costumes and then they’d truly be the scariest team in the league since clowns are EVIL!
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Haha, I know, I was just going off of the theme of what we are thankful for, and I am a huge fan of Minnesota hockey (see my obsession with St. Cloud State), so I’m thankful that they have their team back…and I’ll cut them some slack on their jerseys.
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Have you ever lived in Minnesota? I have family from there. They are thankful for anything to do that doesn’t involve being outside.
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Never lived. Growing up I always wanted to live there just for the reason that I played hockey, and there weren’t a ton of rinks close by when I was younger, nor did any of my friends in school play. So I had this silly dream of growing up in Minnesota as a kid, and playing pond hockey after school every day, etc. It’s just something I day dreamed a lot about from age 5-12 haha.
Though I can relate to the cold. I’ve spent some extended time up north in Canada (north of the major cities) during the winter, holy crap.
Geoff has Boosh, Nodl is all mine!
Is this the right room for an argument?
I lived in Montana as a child, and I loved and still love the state but the winters make you want to go Shining on somebody. In Minny you get lake effect in some parts which makes it even worse.
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I feel you, my dads side of the family lives in wayyy upstate New York (Waddington, yo!) about 5 mins away from the boarder. We visit a lot since my gramma is sick, we’re driving the 8 hours up thanksgiving night. Its supposed to snow! My dad has some good stories about having to tunnel out of his 2nd story window cause the door was snowed in.
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by Cillo stache on Nov 24, 2010 1:04 PM EST up reply actions
and they should have to wear clown skates, too
by Pocono Flyers Fan on Nov 24, 2010 12:35 PM EST up reply actions
That picture of Bernie made me smile. What a great man!
Really thought yesterday how lucky we are as Flyers fans that such a big player from our history is still very beloved today in 2010. Many of them are besides Bernie, really. I remember when in the SCF how the commentators mentioned how everytime you go to a Flyers game in Philly, it’s always an alumni event. Thats one of those little things that I really love about being a fan of this team.
I am thankful for
Following a hockey team that has remained relevant throughout my entire lifetime. As much as the organization makes mistakes—and they do—they’ve never fallen into oblivion for 5-10 years (sort of like the Sixers now, hard to believe they are the 3rd winningest franchise in NBA history, huh?) and for that I am truly grateful. I love that every other fan on the planet hates them, too. If other people hate you, you must be doing something right.
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Maybe he is checking out his dance partner for tonight? Or he is taking a time out after he caught carter talking to his wife?
Leino = $$$
by flyerfreek on Nov 24, 2010 1:21 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
Homer the GM of the year?
I'm in love with the Lightning, the Flyers are my fling and I have a crush on the Flyers fans.
Dare to follow my childish, biased, petty and cheesy alter ego.
American Cheese, B!tch! ... #1 mission? Kill Holmgren.
by Katchis on Nov 24, 2010 4:45 PM EST reply actions 1 recs
Apparently I can’t rec this from mobile, but it deserves it simply for being NPH.
Lightning strikes once, Hextall strikes twice!
by hintzy64 on Nov 24, 2010 5:53 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
OT: Who is in goal tonight?
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by Geoff Detweiler on Nov 24, 2010 5:37 PM EST up reply actions
How’s that OT?
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by Travis Hughes on Nov 24, 2010 5:40 PM EST up reply actions
Any word who’s in net tonight?
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by hintzy64 on Nov 24, 2010 5:24 PM EST via mobile reply actions
Beat you by literally a second.
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That’s because I’m hand-writing it on my iPAQ. :-p
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by hintzy64 on Nov 24, 2010 5:54 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
Parent. Bringing him back for a one game reunion tour in honor of the Spectrum.
Formerly... "You don't have to be sweet, to be good"
by Ed Van Chimp on Nov 24, 2010 5:25 PM EST up reply actions
Just what we need is another injury and another played stupidly not on LITR.
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That was Bernie I was referring to there
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by Ed Van Chimp on Nov 25, 2010 3:42 PM EST up reply actions
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