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Interesting sentence alert: I agree with Bob Clarke.

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by KreiderDesigns on Nov 4, 2010 10:30 AM EDT reply actions  

Bobby Clarke thinks that suspension was right than jesus how can we argue. Clarke defended the Downie hit and the Downie sucker punch to Jason Blake.

He should let Danny know a two hander across the ankle would have accomplished the same thing and probably not got him suspended.

by chrislanci on Nov 4, 2010 10:30 AM EDT reply actions  

Downie didn’t get suspended for the punch to Blake though I thought. But Blake is a grade A jag-off, I would have done the same thing.

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by JpH89 on Nov 4, 2010 10:32 AM EDT up reply actions  

Downie didn’t get suspended. But I think Clarke said roughly “I loved it, if Blakes wants to say the stuff he said than that is what he deserves” or something like that. Blake told reporters Downie didn’t deserve to be in the league after the hit in Ottawa.

by chrislanci on Nov 4, 2010 10:36 AM EDT up reply actions  

No one argues with Bob Clarke and lives to tell about it.

Do you see what happens when you find a stranger in the Alps?

by mikefive on Nov 4, 2010 11:25 AM EDT up reply actions  

After watching that fight, Crosby showed himself to be really strong the way he jerked that guy around. But he punches like a girl. Sidney is probably used to jerking guys up and down anyways so that fight proved nothing.

by chrislanci on Nov 4, 2010 10:39 AM EDT reply actions   1 recs

HEYOOOO!

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by KreiderDesigns on Nov 4, 2010 10:40 AM EDT up reply actions  

I was hoping for the Pronger BOYAHH of the day. We should start that to go along with comment of the night.

by chrislanci on Nov 4, 2010 10:41 AM EDT up reply actions  

That was more of a:

ZING!

than a BOOYAH! Still funny though. And true. I wonder how he would look against someone more willing to fight back?

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by Mike B on D on Nov 4, 2010 2:32 PM EDT up reply actions  

I wish they took the visors off though. But yeah Crosby is strong as hell, and throws pretty well for a 50 goal scorer. I’m fairly certain he’d drop either of us.

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by DLJr on Nov 4, 2010 10:55 AM EDT up reply actions  

He’s very effective at yanking the other guy, keeping him off balance.

I’m pretty sure Dan Carcillo would be pissed if Crosby tried that on him.

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by Geoff Detweiler on Nov 4, 2010 11:01 AM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah once he got his skates under him, he pretty much just tossed Niskanen around like a rag doll. Still, if you are gonna drop immediately, take of those damn helmets with the visors.

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by DLJr on Nov 4, 2010 11:04 AM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah, that’s the stupidest thing a scorer could do is try to fight someone with a shield. Then again if you’re not really planning on punching and just want to yank the dude, then maybe it’s not so bad.

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by KreiderDesigns on Nov 4, 2010 11:05 AM EDT up reply actions  

They both definitely threw some. At first, that’s what I thought, Crosby was just yanking him down, and ending it. But they both threw punches, directed at shields. I guess you are more likely to just cut your hand on a shield, but you run the risk of Sheldon Souraying it on a face?

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by DLJr on Nov 4, 2010 11:15 AM EDT up reply actions  

I thought I read somewhere that it is illegal to fight with a visor and you get a game misconduct? Is it more that if both players have visors it’s fine? Also the same thing goes with tape on your hand. I think it was one of the fights the Flyers had against either Pitt or the Islanders that one of their players had tape on their hand and didn’t get tossed? Can someone please explain for me? Thanks.

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by Psy09 on Nov 4, 2010 11:29 AM EDT up reply actions  

That’s instigator.

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by Geoff Detweiler on Nov 4, 2010 11:32 AM EDT up reply actions  

Oh, alright. Got it. Thanks Geoff.

"Chris Pronger sneaked in the back door...banged it home."

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by Psy09 on Nov 4, 2010 12:17 PM EDT up reply actions  

It’s an instigator penalty? I’ll have to look at the wording there becuase it makes so little sense.

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by Mike B on D on Nov 4, 2010 2:34 PM EDT up reply actions  

No, no. If you instigate a fight and you wear a visor, it’s a misconduct.

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by Geoff Detweiler on Nov 4, 2010 3:04 PM EDT up reply actions  

Isn’t it a penalty to fight with the visor on?

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by Mike B on D on Nov 4, 2010 2:33 PM EDT up reply actions  

No.

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by Geoff Detweiler on Nov 4, 2010 3:04 PM EDT up reply actions  

His punches were shit, they had little or nothing behind them as Sidney wasn’t upright him to fire them. Lindros used to use the same ragdoll technique to get them off balance but he would throw a mean puch because Lindros stayed upright. Obviously Lindros is stronger but he did fight the bigger heavyweight guys so that should wash out. Crosby is too worried about getting hit and doesn’t try to set himself up to do any real damage.

Any pro Athlete should be able to beat my ass. But in Sneakers Crosby isn’t going to be able to toss my chubby ass around like that he will have to throw some punches.

by chrislanci on Nov 4, 2010 11:28 AM EDT up reply actions  

Lindros could take on mogt regular fighters, not really a fair comparison. You know it’s hard as hell to throw punches on skates right?

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by DLJr on Nov 4, 2010 11:30 AM EDT up reply actions  

I can barely throw punches standing flatfoot.

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by Grp_Cpt_Lionel_Mandrake on Nov 4, 2010 11:30 AM EDT up reply actions  

Jeeze, y’all should be sad about how easy it is to beat you up. Hahahh, I kid. Honestly, I think I could hold my own with Crosby. But thats cause I"m a girl, I have all the advantages except size and weight

Let's do it again

by Cillo stache on Nov 4, 2010 3:49 PM EDT up reply actions  

Lindros was 11 feet tall and bench press cities. It’s not that the comparison is bad, it’s that there is no comparison to make.

Crosby did fine. He’s not a fighter, but that was a good scrap. He’s strong for a little guy.

by Snevik on Nov 4, 2010 11:40 AM EDT up reply actions  

Lindros was 11 feet tall and bench press cities.

“He had forearms like tree trunks! And a shock of hair… Red, like the Fires of Hell!”

Do you see what happens when you find a stranger in the Alps?

by mikefive on Nov 4, 2010 12:00 PM EDT up reply actions  

Did I ever tell you about the time Lindros took me out to go get a drink with him? We go off lookin’ for a bar and we can’t find one. Finally, Lindros takes me into a vacant lot and says, “Here we are!” Well, we sat there for a year and a half. Sure enough, someone constructed a bar around us! P. J. McGinty’s! Well, the day they opened it, we ordered a shot, drank it and then burnt the place to the ground. Lindros yelled over the roar of the flames, “Always leave things the way you found them!”

by Snevik on Nov 4, 2010 12:19 PM EDT up reply actions  

This is still one of my favorite recurring SNL skits.

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by DLJr on Nov 4, 2010 12:20 PM EDT up reply actions  

Crosby is too worried about getting hit and doesn’t try to set himself up to do any real damage.

Interesting take…my take, if he was that worried, he would have never fought in his career. You don’t say Shelley is worried about getting hit my holding people as far away from him as he can with his one arm, as he waits to use his hook with his free arm. If anything, Crosby puts himself at more risk for damage by just blindly throwing at the end of the fight.

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by DLJr on Nov 4, 2010 11:56 AM EDT up reply actions  

Oh Todd Bertuzzi, I was a big fan of you before you assaulted Moore on the ice

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by CoburnsCuddleBuddy on Nov 4, 2010 12:00 PM EDT up reply actions  

Briere

That Kypreos article is interesting. Let us not forget what Briere did to Ovechkin after Alex boarded him into the open door. Look it up on Youtube- I’d post the link but I’m at work and youtube is blocked.

by NoalB on Nov 4, 2010 10:53 AM EDT reply actions  

Yes, Danny holds grudges. I’m going to the Flyers-Caps game on Sunday here in DC with my family. Can’t wait! We’ll be the family that is split – me and my youngest son love the Flyers and will be sportin’ the orange and black, while my wife and oldest son will be wearing their Caps gear. Go, Flyers! I’m really hoping for a road win on Sunday.

Sarauj, Latvija!

by LVHokejs on Nov 4, 2010 11:06 AM EDT up reply actions  

I’m going too. VA flyers fans for the win!

by NoalB on Nov 4, 2010 11:18 AM EDT up reply actions  

I’m headed up from Richmond. Can’t wait!

by sneech on Nov 4, 2010 11:36 AM EDT up reply actions  

Crosby is still a little girl. He fought a guy who had two carrier NHL fights before, Matt Niskanen. Both in 2008-09. One was against Shane Hindy and according to hockeyfights.com, Hindy won that fight 92.8%. The other one was with Corey Stillman, with Stillman taking that fight 93.6%.

Great job Sid, way to fire up your guys. I know its time to light a fire when your playing a non confrence foe, on the road, down by three, second period, agaisnt a guy who has lost his only two other fights. Real warrior here! Fight Richie! I would pay lots of money to see that. Someone on Pensburgh said now Crosby should go after Danny Briere. LOL. If he were to even think about stooping that low to fight Danny and not Richie he’d be silly. But my money is on Danny. He’s fought Mike Comrey before. AND dropped his helmet when he did it. If you are gonna square off of the draw, take a page out of your boy Matt Cooke’s book and drop your bucket.

by OrangeNblacK on Nov 4, 2010 11:16 AM EDT reply actions  

Are you implying that Crosby is a tough guy and should only fight other tough guys. Crosby is an ELITE player (way beyong Richards status), he shouldn’t ever have to drop his gloves with anyone, and you are giving him shit for dropping them with someone who doesn’t really fight?!?

I’m fine hating on the guy, Chris’s comment was hilarious, but this just comes across as ridiculous blind hate with no substance behind it.

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by DLJr on Nov 4, 2010 11:29 AM EDT up reply actions  

So is Giroux, as of recently. Giroux holds his own, with check of the night the last game. Invalid I say! Giroux could still kick Crosbys ass, and he’s “elite”

Let's do it again

by Cillo stache on Nov 4, 2010 3:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

You have an extremely loose definition of elite. Crosby is arguably the best player in the world, Giroux is arguably becoming the best player on the Flyers this year, that’s a huge leap.

But you are a homer, I understand, so I’m not going to argue with you over it.

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by DLJr on Nov 4, 2010 4:03 PM EDT up reply actions  

Gwah. Not (but very) true. Theres been plenty of articles of how Giroux becoming “elite”. I don’t catagorize beyond being a good player or sucking. And I’m kinda grossed out by Crosby being elite. Its nasty. There are better, IMO

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by Cillo stache on Nov 4, 2010 4:13 PM EDT up reply actions  

Giroux becoming "elite"

1) Notice the word becoming
2) I consider elite to be top 5 in the game, maybe can expand to 10; and Giroux, as much as I love him, hasn’t cracked that list yet, despite his excellent 12 game start to the season and admirable playoff performances.
3) By article’s I’m assuming you mean the fluff piece that was on NHL.com. It’s great that he is getting the publicity, but the guy has yet to establish himself as the elite of the NHL. If he keeps up the pace he is on this season, he will go a long way to doing that though. Again, I love Giroux, his is one of my favorite players to watch in the league, but I also have my head glued on straight and recognize he isn’t in Crosby’s class yet.
4) Name me 5 players you think are better than Crosby in the game right now.

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by DLJr on Nov 4, 2010 4:41 PM EDT up reply actions  

I’m not arguing at all but just curious, who would you place in the top 5, no order necessary??

by phinally on Nov 4, 2010 5:23 PM EDT up reply actions  

The top 3 for me are easy, after that, it becomes a whole mess in my mind b/c I start playing favorites with players I love. 1. Crosby, 2. Datsyuk, 3. Ovechkin. Ovie gets 3 because if I’m picking a fantasy draft, and my goal is to pick the players most likely to help me win a cup, the other 2 get the nod. If I’m picking to sell tickest it probably be 1a. Ovie, 1b. Datsyuk.

I’ll tell you who I never thought would be an elite talent in terms of being one of the best in the world that is quickly changing my mind…Stamkos.

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by DLJr on Nov 5, 2010 9:26 AM EDT up reply actions  

Also, there really aren’t better. I wouldn’t even say ovie is better. They do different things excellently

by phinally on Nov 4, 2010 5:25 PM EDT up reply actions  

Thats still 1 more career fight then Crosby has, and the same amount of career fights that Briere and Giroux have. I fail to see your point.

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by JpH89 on Nov 4, 2010 11:55 AM EDT up reply actions  

Thought I read somewhere that that was Crosby’s 5th or 6th fight?

by sneech on Nov 4, 2010 11:56 AM EDT up reply actions  

He has the ball punching fight and this.

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by JpH89 on Nov 4, 2010 12:00 PM EDT up reply actions  

What about Andrew Ference? Keith Ballard?

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by DLJr on Nov 4, 2010 12:18 PM EDT up reply actions  

Ok, I see the Ballard one. I dont see the Ference one though, sure it was called as a fight and not just roughing?(somethimes guys that dont fight drop gloves in a scrum and don’t get the whole fighting call)

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by JpH89 on Nov 4, 2010 12:22 PM EDT up reply actions  

yeah, Hockeyfights.com has him down for 5 fights

by sneech on Nov 4, 2010 12:22 PM EDT up reply actions  

John, we agree, between this and Ska, I’m starting to worry about us.

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by DLJr on Nov 4, 2010 11:57 AM EDT up reply actions  

I’m worried about us, as in you and me.

We’re probably the only two people wearing pearl snaps in the WFC on any given night.

Do you see what happens when you find a stranger in the Alps?

by mikefive on Nov 4, 2010 12:02 PM EDT up reply actions  

I’m convinced we have to know each other some how already haha

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by DLJr on Nov 4, 2010 12:41 PM EDT up reply actions  

WFC’s resident cowboys. You should do some intermission entertainment.

Mourning Gagne forever.

by ToddtheFox on Nov 4, 2010 1:34 PM EDT up reply actions  

You realize you referring to pearl snaps as a cowboy thing is driving me nuts haha. I’m like 2 seconds away from flying to New Zealand over it.

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by DLJr on Nov 4, 2010 1:56 PM EDT up reply actions  

I’ll bear the Cowboy brunt. I have a lot of western shirts.

Todd, you may direct all of your cowboy comments to me.

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by mikefive on Nov 4, 2010 2:01 PM EDT up reply actions  

COWBOY!!!!!11!!!

I always knew you were a trance DJ

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by ToddtheFox on Nov 4, 2010 2:06 PM EDT up reply actions  

Wow. Just wow.

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by mikefive on Nov 4, 2010 2:09 PM EDT up reply actions  

He’s actually pretty good if you like dropping acid and swaying. Which I don’t.

Mourning Gagne forever.

by ToddtheFox on Nov 4, 2010 2:12 PM EDT up reply actions  

Sorry, Don. I won’t do it anymore.

Mourning Gagne forever.

by ToddtheFox on Nov 4, 2010 2:04 PM EDT up reply actions  

I’m just kidding, I don’t mind it at all, just making a joke and finding an excuse to go to Aukland.

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by DLJr on Nov 4, 2010 2:05 PM EDT up reply actions  

Let’s form a post-hardcore band called Cowboy Brunt and make an album called Auckland.

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by mikefive on Nov 4, 2010 2:07 PM EDT up reply actions  

Totally down. Though I haven’t picked up a guitar in years.

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by DLJr on Nov 4, 2010 2:13 PM EDT up reply actions  

There’s post-hardcore now? I can’t even keep up with these new genres. Make it as poser-ish as possible, and it will go down a treat in Auckland.

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by ToddtheFox on Nov 4, 2010 2:16 PM EDT up reply actions  

Nah, post-hardcore is older. Fugazi would be a good example.

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by mikefive on Nov 4, 2010 2:18 PM EDT up reply actions  

Oh, I do know Fugazi. I’m more inclined to listen to music I like, than listen to every band within a certain genre.

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by ToddtheFox on Nov 4, 2010 2:22 PM EDT up reply actions  

Too bad I don’t live in crappy Auckland. Seriously, it’s a terrible city. But actually, I wouldn’t mind having someone to talk hockey with face-to-face. The postdoc in my lab is a Penguins fan, and we haven’t managed to have civil discussion yet.

Mourning Gagne forever.

by ToddtheFox on Nov 4, 2010 2:14 PM EDT up reply actions  

Haha I only want to go to Auckland b/c my HS mascot was an Auk, and even though they aren’t specifically from Auckland, I’ve had an interest in going. But more or less just want to make my way to New Zealand at some point in my life after meeting a sheep farmer from New Zealand when I was traveling across Western Canada and Alaska. He (Rex was his name) has to be the coolest old guy I ever met.

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by DLJr on Nov 4, 2010 2:20 PM EDT up reply actions  

I never put the two together. I wonder if that’s actually where it got it’s name from. “A sheep farmer from New Zealand” has to be one of the most cliche’d things ever.

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by ToddtheFox on Nov 4, 2010 2:46 PM EDT up reply actions  

From NZ.com!

New Zealand’s first governor, Captain William Hobson, chose Auckland as the capital. Hobson decided upon the name Auckland, in honour of his patron and former commander, Lord Auckland (at that time, the viceroy of India).

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by ToddtheFox on Nov 4, 2010 2:49 PM EDT up reply actions  

Haha, yeah I know that had nothing to do with the Auk. I just know they have found it’s fossils in New Zealand, and I knew New Zealand had a city Auckland…so if my interest in New Zealand stemmed from an animal called Auk, why would I not want to go to Auckland.

And that’s a glimpse in to the mind of a slow person….better known as Don.

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by DLJr on Nov 4, 2010 2:57 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah, the museum in Wellington has a pretty sweet skeleton. NZ has other cool birds…most of them are extinct though.

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by ToddtheFox on Nov 4, 2010 4:31 PM EDT up reply actions  

So if I may sum out New Zealanders…

You hate birds, but love sheep…is that safe to say haha.

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by DLJr on Nov 4, 2010 4:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

Original settlers, Maori included, hated birds. We love them now. I’m indifferent about sheep.

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by ToddtheFox on Nov 4, 2010 4:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

haha, i know. But I just think the complete opposite of what OrangeNblack said. Pitt has been playing pretty crappy, and were losing to a Dallas team that isn’t anywhere near as talented. he did what any good captain would do, he fought someone. Yeah, the guy he fought wasn’t a heavyweight by any means, but do you really expect Crosby to go head to ead with a guy like Ott? Richards went after Cooke because Richards can compete with him.

Also, I say a Crosby and Briere fight would be awesome. We all know Richards can beat Crosby in a fight, but I want to see two non-fighters go head-to-head.

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by JpH89 on Nov 4, 2010 12:08 PM EDT up reply actions  

I think a Crosby vs Richards fight would be closer than people think. But there is no reason for Crosby to fight anyone on the Flyers b/c he torches them every game on the scoreboard.

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by DLJr on Nov 4, 2010 12:16 PM EDT up reply actions  

That’s exactly why I don’t want it to ever happen. Should Richie lose…it’s over. I don’t even want to think about it.

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by KreiderDesigns on Nov 4, 2010 12:17 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah I view that fight as a lose/lose for Richards

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by DLJr on Nov 4, 2010 12:18 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yup. Now Shelley I wouldn’t mind seeing him take a swing or two at Crosby but that’s a pipe-dream.

Flyers Fans: We've survived Lock-outs, Lindros and Cooperalls. If you want to get rid of us, you'll have to split an atom or two.

by KreiderDesigns on Nov 4, 2010 12:19 PM EDT up reply actions  

We can all dream. The best I remember us getting Crosby was when Hatcher knocked out a couple of his teeth. I think it may have been the first time Crosby faced us.

by srv1084 on Nov 4, 2010 12:21 PM EDT up reply actions  

That’s my favorite Hatch moment, ever!

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by KreiderDesigns on Nov 4, 2010 12:25 PM EDT up reply actions  

Same. Hatch got no respect when he was here sometimes. Every one always called him out cause he was slow, but he always played really good when he was here IMO.

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by JpH89 on Nov 4, 2010 12:26 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah, the mistake was on the front office….go figure! Bringing him here might have not been the smartest move given the changes of the league but I always enjoyed his play.

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by KreiderDesigns on Nov 4, 2010 12:27 PM EDT up reply actions  

Geoff what was Hatchers advStats when he was here. I’m pretty sure he wasn’t as bad as people always say he was.

But I disagree, I loved Hatcher here. I don’t see how he was even a bad signing.

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by JpH89 on Nov 4, 2010 12:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

Well, BtN only goes back to the year that shall not be named, which I don’t think anybody wants me to look at.

So the year after (07-08) he only played 44 games. Here are the bullets:

  • He had a 41.7% offensive zone start, third worst on the team (Kukkonen and Smith were slightly worse);
  • And he moved the puck forward – he had the second highest offensive zone finish at 49.8%;
  • He faced average competition (-0.001), but that was fourth highest on the team, indicating he was on the second pair;
  • He had the best teammates by a good margin (0.188);
  • Only Timonen took fewer penalties per 60, though Hatch did take 0.8 per 60 minutes;
  • He was in the middle in GAON/60 at 2.28, with Timonen, Coburn, and Kukkonen besting him, Jones, Smith, and Modry trailing;
  • The offense worked pretty well for him (2.36 GAON/60), ranking third on the team behind Coburn and Jones;
  • That’s a plus 0.08 GON/60, again behind only Coburn and Jones;
  • He wasn’t much of a scorer (obviously), registering 0.42 Pts/60, ahead of only Kukkonen and Modry;
  • His Relative Corsi suggests he was average, again, at -0.9, behind Coburn, Jones, and Timonen.

Conclusion

For those who didn’t want to read through all that: Hatcher was a good #3 or 4 defenseman that year, with Coburn and Timonen being the best d-men on that team. Hatcher was battling Jones for the #3 spot, but really… I think that would have been a decent pairing. Let Hatch play D, let Jones skate.

In the playoffs, it appears they used that pairing to a good amount of success. Without save percentage numbers, however, I can’t tell if it was luck or skill, since the pair got severely outshot, though gave up very few goals.

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by Geoff Detweiler on Nov 4, 2010 1:13 PM EDT up reply actions  

And he was hurt and at the end of his rope. That summer was a joke, signing two big defensemen who were on their last legs. Bad Clarke moves.

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by MJDII on Nov 4, 2010 12:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

Exactly. Prototypical Clarke additions.

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by KreiderDesigns on Nov 4, 2010 12:32 PM EDT up reply actions  

The better part is that Hatcher said he was going give Crosby the lumber on Preston and Steven when interviewed earlier in the summer.

by chrislanci on Nov 4, 2010 12:45 PM EDT up reply actions  

Forgot about that. Now I just have more respect cause he stuck to his word.

by srv1084 on Nov 4, 2010 12:47 PM EDT up reply actions  

I dont think that would even be fun to watch. I would like a Car bomb and crosby fight. Car bomb is fast, Shelley is to big and strong to fight Crosby. If Shelley and Crosby were to fight I think the game would get to out of hand and other players would get hurt or suspended.

by midwestflyers on Nov 4, 2010 2:57 PM EDT up reply actions  

Crosby talks shit and takes runs and lots of Briere esque dirty stick work. But Richards a guys the same size as Crosby actually Crosby is listed as 5lbs heavier. He won’t go. Danny is giving away 20 – 30 lbs he shouldn’t be fighting anyone. Plus both guys where the C.

by chrislanci on Nov 4, 2010 12:49 PM EDT up reply actions  

Why is this in response to me? I never said Crosby should fight Briere…I just said a fight with Crosby is a lose/lose situation for Richards.

Further, Crosby shouldn’t fight either guys, he is an ELITE player, neither Briere or Richards are in his class as far as caliber of player goes.

Is this the right room for an argument?

by DLJr on Nov 4, 2010 12:59 PM EDT up reply actions  

I get lost with all the replys sometimes and like to be in the middle when things get really slanted.

by chrislanci on Nov 4, 2010 1:10 PM EDT up reply actions  

As a favor to me, keep track, and don’t reply to me unless you are responding to what I wrote. Think of it as an early bday/xmas gift to me.

Is this the right room for an argument?

by DLJr on Nov 4, 2010 1:25 PM EDT up reply actions  

Use the up button. It works pretty well

Mourning Gagne forever.

by ToddtheFox on Nov 4, 2010 1:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

RICHIE WOULDN’T LOSE!!

Don’t even think about it that way. It’s not a lose-lose, it’s not a win-win, it’s just a win.

Simon Gagne may move between towns, wear new jerseys and call different arenas home, but at the end of the day, he will always be a Philadelphia Flyer.

by PursuitOfLappyness on Nov 4, 2010 8:27 PM EDT up reply actions  

If that fight ever happened, regardless of why, Richards would be banned for life.

by srv1084 on Nov 4, 2010 12:18 PM EDT up reply actions  

Bob. Bob! Bob! BOB!

/Richard Dreyfuss

Do you see what happens when you find a stranger in the Alps?

by mikefive on Nov 4, 2010 11:34 AM EDT up reply actions  

Its Bobby’s world

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by JpH89 on Nov 4, 2010 11:54 AM EDT up reply actions  

Bobby's World

Tonight’s his break out game! Shutout Baby!

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by CoburnsCuddleBuddy on Nov 4, 2010 12:02 PM EDT up reply actions  

haha I meant this Bobby's world

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by JpH89 on Nov 4, 2010 12:09 PM EDT up reply actions  

Needs more Wembley, don’tcha know!

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by KreiderDesigns on Nov 4, 2010 12:12 PM EDT up reply actions  

This will be his 9th game. Isn’t there a 10 game thing that effects contract status. Not that I care about how his contract works but if he plays more then a certain amount of games he has to pass waivers. And not that I think he should go down but when Leights comes back who goes and how?

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by MJDII on Nov 4, 2010 12:29 PM EDT up reply actions  

That’s juniors I believe. That’s the sort of problem rookies like Hall and Seguin have, but Bob was only ever going to go to the AHL.

Mourning Gagne forever.

by ToddtheFox on Nov 4, 2010 1:38 PM EDT up reply actions  

The number of games is complicated, but I looked it up about 2 or 3 weeks ago. It’s 60 games, if I remember correctly. Which I quite probably don’t.

But it’s definitely not 10.

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by Geoff Detweiler on Nov 4, 2010 1:44 PM EDT up reply actions  

Okay, thanks Geoff. I thought there was something about playing 10 games, but it might be something else.

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by MJDII on Nov 4, 2010 2:14 PM EDT up reply actions  

As Todd said, it has to do with Juniors. Article referencing it here.

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by DLJr on Nov 4, 2010 2:22 PM EDT up reply actions  

And it begins, again. This is 5 in a row now, Lavvy really likes to ride the hot glove-hand

Mourning Gagne forever.

by ToddtheFox on Nov 4, 2010 1:37 PM EDT up reply actions  

Days like today....

Make me appreciate BSH. I just went onto the CBS Sportsline boards, and there literally are people there arguing that Matt Carle is a better defense man than Kimmo Timonen because Kimmo “doesn’t hit any body” and" plays soft."

faceplam

Other gems, Andrej Meszaros is clearly worth his contract but Scott Hartnell isn’t, Jody Shelley was a good signing at his current salary because Boogaard got more money, trading Gagne was necessary because of the cap situation(completely ignoring that Homer put himself into that situation and on an on and on…

Jesus.

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by Ed Van Chimp on Nov 4, 2010 12:21 PM EDT reply actions  

haha, wow. How are you still sane?

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by Geoff Detweiler on Nov 4, 2010 12:22 PM EDT up reply actions  

Its not even worth arguing at that point. just stay clear of that site.

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by JpH89 on Nov 4, 2010 12:23 PM EDT up reply actions  

A site’s traffic size is inversely related to the intelligence of its commenters.

"Gentlemen, you can't fight in here, this is the war room."

by Grp_Cpt_Lionel_Mandrake on Nov 4, 2010 12:24 PM EDT up reply actions  

Jody Shelley was a good signing at his current salary because Boogaard got more money

And what is wrong about this? :-) Only kidding I don’t have the energy today.

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by MJDII on Nov 4, 2010 12:26 PM EDT up reply actions  

The better argument is: Who do you believe earns their salary, and is a better value for the salary

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by CoburnsCuddleBuddy on Nov 4, 2010 12:35 PM EDT up reply actions  

OH C'mON!

Mez in, Nodl out.

What’d he do?

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by KreiderDesigns on Nov 4, 2010 12:24 PM EDT reply actions  

Nodl is still hurt brah

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by JpH89 on Nov 4, 2010 12:25 PM EDT up reply actions  

HAHA! WOW. I didn’t get much sleep last night.

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by KreiderDesigns on Nov 4, 2010 12:25 PM EDT up reply actions  

haha did you not notice Nodl didn’t play last game either?

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by JpH89 on Nov 4, 2010 12:27 PM EDT up reply actions  

No I knew that…I think when I looked at it I confused Mez for Z and read it like Z was taking Nodl’s spot, completely forgetting that Nodl got hurt.

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by KreiderDesigns on Nov 4, 2010 12:29 PM EDT up reply actions  

Can we pretend I’m indignant about Boosh not starting?

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by KreiderDesigns on Nov 4, 2010 12:26 PM EDT up reply actions  

But Bobs is. I call that a draw. I would lose for us to drop Leighton somehow and gos Bobs and Boosh for the year.

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by JpH89 on Nov 4, 2010 12:28 PM EDT up reply actions  

lose = love?

I am scared Bobs will burn out, also I don’t think that Boosh will be around when Leights get back, just my gut and 10 years of history talking there.

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by KreiderDesigns on Nov 4, 2010 12:29 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yes, lose=Love

Bobs will probably burn out at some point, but at the same time, he doesnt get tested all the time either. I’m sure he can last into the playoffs, but I would still like some steady Boosh time here and there. Im just happy its Bobs tonight cause Im going.

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by JpH89 on Nov 4, 2010 12:33 PM EDT up reply actions  

You selfish bastard! Have fun.

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by KreiderDesigns on Nov 4, 2010 12:34 PM EDT up reply actions  

Haha, Bobs is to me what Boosh is to you and Geoff.

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by JpH89 on Nov 4, 2010 12:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

And the Robert Esche is to me!

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by CoburnsCuddleBuddy on Nov 4, 2010 12:51 PM EDT up reply actions  

That’s not even possible.

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by Geoff Detweiler on Nov 4, 2010 12:58 PM EDT up reply actions  

Breakin out the Buscemi lipstick, eh Geoff?

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by CoburnsCuddleBuddy on Nov 4, 2010 12:59 PM EDT up reply actions  

Careful, you’ll make “the list.”

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by KreiderDesigns on Nov 4, 2010 1:00 PM EDT up reply actions  

Eh, I can’t make the list. I’m a Braydon Coburn supporter, that makes me an endangered species

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by CoburnsCuddleBuddy on Nov 4, 2010 1:02 PM EDT up reply actions  

With me around, you’ve become unnecessary haha

Is this the right room for an argument?

by DLJr on Nov 4, 2010 1:04 PM EDT up reply actions  

Son of a bitch!

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by CoburnsCuddleBuddy on Nov 4, 2010 1:07 PM EDT up reply actions  

Purely referencing your past motives

“Maybe one day you’ll write a book about it, in prison”

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by CoburnsCuddleBuddy on Nov 4, 2010 1:04 PM EDT up reply actions  

I watched that game on the NHL network last night and saw the Clarke thing about Briere. Although he did say it was fair because he was a repeat offender, Clarke had that sour taste in his mouth look. Where he agreed because he is aware of the new NHL, but you could tell that the thought of a guy grazing some guy on a face off tustle gets you 3 games he was about to throw up in his mouth. He also said Belfour for the HHOF over Lindros, what a stretch, Newindyk(?) and Bure. I thought that was funny since he has said that he thinks Lindros does deserve the HOF.

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by MJDII on Nov 4, 2010 12:36 PM EDT reply actions  

I think Danny is more upset because as an older player, he played before all these shots were still allowed.

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by JpH89 on Nov 4, 2010 12:39 PM EDT up reply actions  

I think he was genuinely upset over that fact that he really didn’t make direct contact to Neilsen’s head. He grazed over the top. It was almost like in baseball when a pitcher throws behind a batter. It was a message. If he wanted to break Neilsen’s face he sure as hell could have done that.

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by MJDII on Nov 4, 2010 12:43 PM EDT up reply actions  

In other news, Patrick Roy believes hockey is less exciting because of Tampa’s reincarnation of the trap, it’s 1-3-1 set up!

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by CoburnsCuddleBuddy on Nov 4, 2010 12:38 PM EDT reply actions  

Has he seen a Tampa game? They are pretty exciting.

Mourning Gagne forever.

by ToddtheFox on Nov 4, 2010 1:39 PM EDT up reply actions  

Better question: Does he really think the trap is unbeatable?

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by CoburnsCuddleBuddy on Nov 4, 2010 1:43 PM EDT up reply actions  

BTW, since everyone is doing a “movember” mustache, we should here at BSH.

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by JpH89 on Nov 4, 2010 12:41 PM EDT reply actions  

What is “movember”??

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by KreiderDesigns on Nov 4, 2010 12:41 PM EDT up reply actions  

Mustache November

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by CoburnsCuddleBuddy on Nov 4, 2010 12:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

Its a charity that raises research for prostate cancer.

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by JpH89 on Nov 4, 2010 12:44 PM EDT up reply actions  

Ahhh ok, cool

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by KreiderDesigns on Nov 4, 2010 12:44 PM EDT up reply actions  

But growing a mustache doesn’t exactly mean you’re supporting charity… How do I get my mustache to help mens’ prostates?

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by Geoff Detweiler on Nov 4, 2010 12:59 PM EDT up reply actions  

Depends on where you grow it?

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by doubleh on Nov 4, 2010 1:07 PM EDT up reply actions  

Now I see I set you up quite well for that.

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by Geoff Detweiler on Nov 4, 2010 1:16 PM EDT up reply actions  

/rimshot /ewww, gross

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by doubleh on Nov 4, 2010 1:20 PM EDT up reply actions  

I personally believe that there should be a monthly BSH shootout, and the winner has to grow his mustache for the whole month. The Pens do this a lot

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by CoburnsCuddleBuddy on Nov 4, 2010 12:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

We could do that at our next pick-up game. Dec. 5th? Go to the fanpost and vote.

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by KreiderDesigns on Nov 4, 2010 12:43 PM EDT up reply actions  

College there buddy! a good 3 hours outside of Philly

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by CoburnsCuddleBuddy on Nov 4, 2010 12:47 PM EDT up reply actions  

KD lives a good 2 hours away tough.

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by JpH89 on Nov 4, 2010 12:51 PM EDT up reply actions  

Lebanon is a shot off the turnpike…I’d actually have to take 322 and then the turnpike

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by CoburnsCuddleBuddy on Nov 4, 2010 12:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

I’m 2.5 hours outside of Philly and I’ve made everyone. Btw, where do you go to school?

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by KreiderDesigns on Nov 4, 2010 12:51 PM EDT up reply actions  

PSU, University Park, the Alabama of the North

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by CoburnsCuddleBuddy on Nov 4, 2010 12:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

A) BooO! 2) You can make it.

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by KreiderDesigns on Nov 4, 2010 12:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

Also, more about the academic calendar:

I’d be more than willing to make the trip during Christmas vacation. But finishing out this semester has been the most difficult, and having a poor LSAT outing in October requires me to finish the semester strong

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by CoburnsCuddleBuddy on Nov 4, 2010 12:57 PM EDT up reply actions  

Im in New Mexico…..
can I get a pass?
..dont get me wrong, I want to be able to go,…. but I dont want to be marked as absent

by Prometheus74 on Nov 4, 2010 1:43 PM EDT up reply actions  

You, sir, do get a pass.

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by KreiderDesigns on Nov 4, 2010 1:57 PM EDT up reply actions  

I’m down with growin a stache.

Except…well….I cant….

Let's do it again

by Cillo stache on Nov 4, 2010 3:58 PM EDT up reply actions  

I refuse to do this.

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by doubleh on Nov 4, 2010 1:08 PM EDT up reply actions  

I hope so.

Do you see what happens when you find a stranger in the Alps?

by mikefive on Nov 4, 2010 2:05 PM EDT up reply actions  

Hey, there are women out there who have them. Unfortunate, but true.

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by doubleh on Nov 4, 2010 2:08 PM EDT up reply actions  

I know.

Do you see what happens when you find a stranger in the Alps?

by mikefive on Nov 4, 2010 2:09 PM EDT up reply actions  

I need more notice even at 29 it will still take me until December to grow a mustache. I can rock an awesome Koy Detmer neck beard though.

by chrislanci on Nov 4, 2010 12:43 PM EDT up reply actions  

I have the same problem. Give me a month and I’ll look like Crosby in the playoffs. It’s that sad.

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by KreiderDesigns on Nov 4, 2010 12:44 PM EDT up reply actions  

Parros is greek. Remember that

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by CoburnsCuddleBuddy on Nov 4, 2010 12:49 PM EDT up reply actions  

Sad when talking with your boys. But the ladies love the baby faces. I still fit in at college bars and get carded for smokes and R-rated movies.

by chrislanci on Nov 4, 2010 12:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

DONE.

Mourning Gagne forever.

by ToddtheFox on Nov 4, 2010 1:39 PM EDT up reply actions  

A stach would go well with your pearl snaps

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by JpH89 on Nov 4, 2010 1:47 PM EDT up reply actions  

And my lasso.

Mourning Gagne forever.

by ToddtheFox on Nov 4, 2010 2:45 PM EDT up reply actions  

LOL at Crosby fighting.

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by Marisa Ingemi on Nov 4, 2010 12:54 PM EDT reply actions  

Good god! Is it game time yet?

These 3 games in 4 nights are great but the 3 days off in between are torture.

by srv1084 on Nov 4, 2010 1:07 PM EDT reply actions  

OMFG

The Crosby fight is a headline on NHL.com.

Five For Crosby.

Also spawned another story titled.

Unlikely Scraps.

FUCK CROSBY.

Where is the story about his Pens getting there asses handed to them 5-2!!!!

OMFG!

by chrislanci on Nov 4, 2010 1:13 PM EDT reply actions  

Anyone want to guess who is featured in the Unlikely Scraps story. None other than Alexander Ovechkin. There must be rule somewhere that Crosby can’t have more stories than Ovi.

by chrislanci on Nov 4, 2010 1:15 PM EDT up reply actions  

Watching the game last night while quietly reading the PensBurg comments was such a treat.

by Prometheus74 on Nov 4, 2010 1:50 PM EDT up reply actions  

Surgery...who pays?

I have a couple of questions. If a player needs surgery, does the team pay for that, or does the cost (or some part of the cost) come out of the player’s pocket (perhaps, the team offers the players a health insurance plan just like any other employer)? A number of players (Pronger, Leighton, and Leino) have recently had surgery and I was just curious how that worked. Also, who makes the decision on whether a player will have surgery? For example, the decision for Leighton to have back surgery was made pretty fast, but what if he had wanted to wait a few more weeks to see if the back would heal up a bit on its own – could he have done that? As a player under contract, how much decision making player does he have vs. the team’s decision on how to proceed. Thanks.

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by LVHokejs on Nov 4, 2010 2:07 PM EDT reply actions  

Wasn’t there that player on the Preds or the Blues or something this offseason where his team at first refused to pay for his shoulder surgery because they said it was an injury he got from playing tennis and not hockey? His agent took it to the media all, “This is an outrage!” and the team relented. Oh, it was Stephane Veilleux and the Lightning, apparently So it sounds like the team/their insurance pays if it’s a “work injury” but if someone broke their leg from falling off the roof while cleaning their gutters, or flipped their motorcycle or something, the player needs their own insurance. Things like taxes and insurance for athletes seems super complicated to me.

by ohnickels on Nov 4, 2010 2:29 PM EDT up reply actions  

Article 23.5 of the CBA says:

The Clubs shall pay the cost of a Hospital, Major Medical and Dental Plan for the
Players that provides benefits agreed upon through collective bargaining between the
NHLPA and the Clubs.

This is in addition to serious disability and life insurance policies. There’s nothing about surgery, though I’m sure that falls in either Major Medical or Hospital

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by Geoff Detweiler on Nov 4, 2010 3:12 PM EDT up reply actions  

Thanks for the replies.

Sarauj, Latvija!

by LVHokejs on Nov 4, 2010 3:50 PM EDT up reply actions  

Anytime

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by Geoff Detweiler on Nov 4, 2010 5:27 PM EDT up reply actions  

Just curious but is what Crosby does even really allowed to be considered fighting?

It’s more like violently jerking a guy around until the refs break it up.

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by EREX21 on Nov 4, 2010 2:59 PM EDT reply actions  

Wrong. And your bias is based on the fact that he threw em with Ference.

Is this the right room for an argument?

by DLJr on Nov 4, 2010 3:17 PM EDT up reply actions  

Oh, how many then?

I remember the Ference one, was there another?

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by Marisa Ingemi on Nov 4, 2010 3:26 PM EDT up reply actions  

You could have read the thread and found out…but…Ballard handed it to Crosby after Crosby went after him for hip checking Malkin. Crosby dropped McLean right off the face off, pretty dirty play. Then Crosby also destroyed Zidlicky.

Is this the right room for an argument?

by DLJr on Nov 4, 2010 3:33 PM EDT up reply actions  

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by JpH89 on Nov 4, 2010 3:47 PM EDT up reply actions  

Hey

I was just asking I question. I thanked him for the answer. How is that any harm?
I understand the suspicion because of past events, but as I proved in my fanpost I am ready to move on.

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by Marisa Ingemi on Nov 4, 2010 3:49 PM EDT up reply actions  

haha I just couldn’t resist.

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by JpH89 on Nov 4, 2010 3:50 PM EDT up reply actions  

Oh, ok

I do not want to bring up past issues any more. What happened happened and I am not here to cause trouble.

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by Marisa Ingemi on Nov 4, 2010 3:56 PM EDT up reply actions  

Title please!

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by KreiderDesigns on Nov 4, 2010 3:50 PM EDT up reply actions  

sorry. I figured since it wasn’t a game thread the traffic wouldn’t be an issue so I didn’t think it would need one.

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by JpH89 on Nov 4, 2010 3:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

You go to esspee, don’t you?

Aikotoba wa Afuro to Gunso

by jello44 on Nov 4, 2010 4:51 PM EDT up reply actions  

esspee? whats that(its some i probably should know but I cant think of.)

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by JpH89 on Nov 4, 2010 10:58 PM EDT up reply actions  

Oh yes, Wolf fans. This is for reals.

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by KreiderDesigns on Nov 4, 2010 3:31 PM EDT reply actions  

They’re, they’re beautiful.

Mourning Gagne forever.

by ToddtheFox on Nov 4, 2010 3:38 PM EDT up reply actions  

I think Ben is gonna stain himself when he sees this.

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by JpH89 on Nov 4, 2010 3:39 PM EDT up reply actions  

Here’s another source for Latvian hockey stuff. This is a site where most of the US-based Latvians shop for all things Latvian.

http://www.balticshop.com/cgi-bin/category.cgi?cat=0712&title=Latvian_Ice_Hockey

Sarauj, Latvija!

by LVHokejs on Nov 4, 2010 3:50 PM EDT up reply actions  

Your presence on a Philadelphia board is the second best Latvian presence on a Philadelphia squad

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by CoburnsCuddleBuddy on Nov 4, 2010 5:33 PM EDT up reply actions  

Actually most of the time he’s #1 b/c unfortunately Barts is usually woefully left off the actual squad that gets to play.

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by KreiderDesigns on Nov 4, 2010 6:29 PM EDT up reply actions  

Wow this is all shockingly cheap. I might have to. I just might have to.

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by Ben Rothenberg on Nov 5, 2010 12:07 AM EDT up reply actions  

B

I think I would have to have it say “ROTHENBERGS”

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by Ben Rothenberg on Nov 5, 2010 12:07 AM EDT up reply actions  

I dig the t-shirt a lot.

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by EREX21 on Nov 4, 2010 3:54 PM EDT up reply actions  

Same. The colour, the pictures, the Swish. It has it all

Mourning Gagne forever.

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