Which doesn’t excuse the problem. All it does is show that we have a GM who either is incapable of understanding the cap, or thinks he doesn’t have to because we have a Captologist, who is as equally unqualified or ignorant. What I thought was a Holmgren problem is now possibly a front office problem. This team is wasting money left and right all the while this mismanagement is preventing the team from having the cushion to make a move if and when the opportunity forcibly presents itself due to something such as an injury.

I’m saying the capologist is the one who advised Holmgren to do it, gave him false numbers, which led to a result neither one of them knows yet.

Are they that incompetent though? I mean CapGeek is a good resource and everything, but should we take it as Gospel?

Perhaps the Flyers are being told by the league office that they have X in cap space, so they did this to cover themselves? And maybe this is all they need to do for now?

If what you’re saying is true, and the organization is REALLY that dumb after the boondoggle of 2009, then Barry Hanrahan should be fired. I should hope after 2009, they’re crossing their t’s and dotting their i’s with the league office.

I’m not apologizing for this decision by any stretch of the imagination. I’d like to think, however, that the Flyers have enough contact with the league office to know ahead of time that this move will be sufficient to get them under the cap enough to fit Leighton in.

I also think this move spells two other things:

1. The eventual demotion of Bartulis, when Walker is healthy enough.
2. The trade of one of our goalies, along with one of our other players (possibly Bartulis) for draft picks.

They have something else up their sleeves which is not immediately apparent to us now. Much like with Meszaros, they’re thinking of the future of the team. O’Donnell is signed for one year and they probably won’t bring him back unless he takes a pay cut. Even if he does come back, they’re probably looking at Walker as the 6th guy next year.

For whatever reason, they’re not sold on Bartulis, unless they want to keep him around for an emergency.

Well that’s a matter of perspective…while what I want may be bad for say Homer, it is good for Flyers fans…

As my good buddy Spock is fond of saying “The needs of the many, out weight the needs of the few, or the one.”

See, I want what is best for the majority. Now how is that not of the Holiday Spirit?

with the cap going up $3m next year,

Is this a definite?

I wouldn’t count on the cap going up by $5 million after next year (as in 2012-13), because odds are good that the next CBA could calculate the cap in an entirely different way….

He is Definitely in the top ten list of GMs
Im not convinced he is in the top 5 but Id say he is close to it

That is all the owner Snider, the GM’s simply operate under the owner’s budget, and now the leagues cap. And the funds made available to our GM’s, I feel, has led to Homer poor cap management. Where other GM’s have learned, or worked under an internal cap before the salary cap was instituted in the NHL, Homer learned under relatively unlimited funds. I feel like this has put him behind the curve from a cap management perspective.

Z and Leino are 2, 20 goal scorers at Carter’s salary. Seems the Flyers already showed that it can be done.

Look at the upcoming FA wingers, it’s a strong year, but that isn’t even relevant.

All I said is, if I were GM, I would not have re-upped Carter, and try to trade his rights in the up coming off season b/c I would have a different vision for this team. The team is a contender, with a good core, in a good hockey market. I would assume that, unless you are dealing with someone like Hamhuis, who wanted to play where he was from, that you could find players to come here that would be wingers and 20 goal scorers. I’m not hating Homer on the move, it was good value, I just had a different hope for the team. And frankly there is no evidence that players would not want to play here. But the point remains, if I were GM of the team, I’d have the cap space without Carter, and the money from Snider, and the draw of playing for the Flyers, and a healthy choice of FA wingers to choose from to make it happen. I don’t expect Homer to do what I want, nor will I say he is a bad GM for doing something I don’t want, in fact, I have complimented him several times for the value of that contract.

I don’t think you’re far off at all.

Agreed

You are probably not far off at all.

TRUE – but that doesn’t change the quandry about what to do with Lappy specifically.

Allow me to rephrase. They allowed themselves NO wiggle room from the get-go, admittedly. The signings of a few players handcuffed them for sure. But if they keep Lappy on the active roster, they’re stuck. If Lappy retires, they’re stuck. If Lappy goes on LTIR, they’re stuck but can still overspend the cap by his salary amount, right? So how is this a bad thing? I don’t fully get it, I guess.

I keep thinking and hearing this, but just don’t understand the idea. Why would anyone waive Walker. A solid tough dman who can stick up for his teammates and shutdown defensively ……………….. ;)

I do understand that carrying three goalies and fifteen or so defensemen is a mistake. But the outcry seems to be that putting Lappy on LTIR was inherently evil – and THAT specifically doesn’t make sense. I can understand the problem of having too many people, and certainly sympathize with the desire to waive Walker or trim salary/roster some way, but the action of putting Lappy on LTIR is merely symptomatic, not the root cause of the problem. If we accept the rest of the situation, it still makes sense to me – but YES, they do need to make another move to clear the cap space.