Tuesday Morning Fly Bly: Phifer
by Geoff Detweiler on Dec 14, 2010 9:39 AM EST
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PrintToday's open discussion thread, complete with your daily dose of Philadelphia Flyers news and notes...
- Tonight's Flyers-Penguins game will be shown on Versus: [NHL.com]
- Jody Shelley has been suspended two games: [CSNPhilly] [Flyer Files] [Frequent Flyers] [Philly Sports Daily] [TSN.ca]
- Anthony SanFilippo says - much cleaner, by the way - what I said more angrily yesterday: The Flyers will be above the salary cap all year: [delcotimes.com]
- ASF brings us the prediction that Bobrovsky will see his workload diminish going forward: [In The Room]
- A two-part interview with Sergei Bobrovsky, via the Daily News: [Part One] [Part Two]
- The always great North American Prospect Report, this week starring Tye McGinn, Luke Pither, and Erik Gustafsson: [Flyers Faithful]
- Jakub Kovar made 32 saves on 35 shots yesterday: [euroflyers]
- I meant to participate in this, but didn't have the time: Asking who - if anybody - is an "elite" goaltender in the NHL: [Behind the Net]
- In honor of Linus Omark, we get "Great moments in shootout history": [Down Goes Brown]
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Eagles beat Cowboys✓Clifton Lee re-signs with Phillies✓- Flyers defeat Penguins tonight
If the Flyguys get a win tonight, look for my obiturary in the paper tomorrow because I will be dead with an exploded heard from joy overload!
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I didn’t even know you had a heard let alone that it could explode :)
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by KreiderDesigns on Dec 14, 2010 9:50 AM EST up reply actions
Dangerous work being a herder in today’s world. Dangerous work indeed.
"Gentlemen, you can't fight in here, this is the war room."
by Grp_Cpt_Lionel_Mandrake on Dec 14, 2010 9:55 AM EST up reply actions
***heart
Dammit! I wish I could just blame it on the iPhones auto correct
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by Mitchell Green on Dec 14, 2010 9:56 AM EST up reply actions
Hahaha, I turned that feature off on my ipod touch the first day. But i only had to deal with it for email, rather than texting.
by DragonGirl0583 on Dec 14, 2010 9:58 AM EST up reply actions
At least my typo wasn't this bad:
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by Mitchell Green on Dec 14, 2010 10:03 AM EST up reply actions
Whenever I am in need of a laugh, I visit that site. Awesome.
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Yeah I read these and FML’s when I need a laugh.
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Good bye #12, you will always bleed Orange and Black.
by Lindbergh 31 on Dec 14, 2010 3:19 PM EST up reply actions
One minute everyone is saying Boosh is going to be the one to go when Leighton comes back, and the next Boosh is the “hot” goalie (as described by ASF this time). We’re gonna be carrying 3 goalies all year, I think.
I have to agree with you.
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by Geoff Detweiler on Dec 14, 2010 11:05 AM EST up reply actions
So do I. And that almost ruins the Cliff Lee is a Phillie again buzz.
BOILER UP!! 2010-2011
"You can commit no mistake and still lose. That is not a weakness. That is life." - Jean-Luc Picard
I liked the idea of carrying three goalies when it meant Walker would be waived.
Now, I don’t have much of an opinion, since the Flyers don’t really save money by sending Bob down.
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by Geoff Detweiler on Dec 14, 2010 11:28 AM EST up reply actions
Unless his performance bonuses have something to do with the number of games he plays….
by DragonGirl0583 on Dec 14, 2010 12:36 PM EST up reply actions
haha, that would imply they are worried about having those bonuses be a cap penalty next year. And if that was true, they wouldn’t have put Lappy on LTIR.
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by Geoff Detweiler on Dec 14, 2010 12:37 PM EST up reply actions
Yeah, I know. But I was just nitpicking. They’ve backed themselves into a corner no matter what, and sending Bob down is more harm than good because I don’t trust Leighton to be healthy.
by DragonGirl0583 on Dec 14, 2010 12:39 PM EST up reply actions
haha, right.
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by Geoff Detweiler on Dec 14, 2010 12:44 PM EST up reply actions
Geoff I know you are unhappy about putting Lappy on IR and how that affects things and it certainly is not that idea situation. But Lappy is really hurt and this situation is not something the Flyers planned for at the start of the season. I certainly rather have Lappy in the lineup then anywhere else. Couple this with Bob’s unexpected rise to NHL All-Stardom now we a problem a problem. Neither of which could have been planned for at the start of the season.
Blame BOB!
If BOB sucked more we wouldn’t be forced into this cap position. Damn it BOB we planned on having cheap and average goaltending and you have to come along a ruin everything by playing so well. Frigging goaltending in Flyerdom is always a problem one way or another.
And yet you’re completely ignoring the fact that Matt Walker is really hurt and this is something the Flyers knew at the beginning of the season. Then, they go and get even MORE defensive depth, but refuse to make the smart move.
Bob is not the problem. It’s the mentality that Matt Walker on a surgically repaired hip is three times better than Bartulis, Syvret, and every other Phantom, and therefore the Flyers will risk a cap penalty next year to pay this guy to not play.
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by Geoff Detweiler on Dec 14, 2010 3:26 PM EST up reply actions
Holmgren’s ultimate plan: Bobrovsky at Center, Leighton on the Right and Boucher on the left. An entire line of goalies. Opponents won’t know how to defend it.
"Gentlemen, you can't fight in here, this is the war room."
by Grp_Cpt_Lionel_Mandrake on Dec 14, 2010 11:13 AM EST up reply actions
January 14. 2011
The next day someone other than Boosh will start. Hopefully, not because of an injury.
/Laviollette neurosis mode
Maddox, Glavine, Smoltz, Avery. Halladay, Hamels, Oswalt, Lee. We win.
That while Down Goes Brown article is hilarious:
April 11, 2009 – The Flyers eliminate the Rangers from playoff contention on the season’s final day when Chris Pronger scores the winner on a move he calls “glue the puck to the front of a stolen zamboni and then run over Henrik Lundqvist while he’s taking a drink from his water bottle”.The ones about Kaberle and Jokinen were my favorites though.
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by Mitchell Green on Dec 14, 2010 10:00 AM EST reply actions
DGB has single-handedly made it harder for me to hate Leafs fans as much as I’m supposed to… Even when he’s taking a shot at the Flyers, I still can’t help but appreciate the humor.
by DragonGirl0583 on Dec 14, 2010 10:04 AM EST up reply actions
Me too. He is very funny and I laugh a lot at the Flyers jokes as well. Everything he writes is funny and I’m glad it’s featured in the Flyby or else I’d never know about the site.
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Good bye #12, you will always bleed Orange and Black.
by Lindbergh 31 on Dec 14, 2010 10:42 AM EST up reply actions
I’ve come to the reluctant conclusion that I cannot hate the Leafs until they become playoff competition. Down here, I don’t get any of their fans anyway, so DGB’s sheer awesomeness easily overwhelms the non-existence of annoying Leafs fans in Florida.
Honor is no substitute for victory.
Back during the perennial playoff matchups with the Leafs and Senators in the early Aughties, I actually found Senators fans more annoying than Leafs fans.
"Darroll can't see it, blind to the eyes;
He came up in your face OOPS POWE SURPRISE!"
Man-crushin' on #36 since he hit his "absolute ceiling" as a rookie in 2008.
That was a bit before my time. I was a kid during the Crazy Eights and the Legion of Doom. Got grounded once for yelling at Lindros to keep his f***ing head up.
Honor is no substitute for victory.
When I say Aughties, I mean the 2000s. Not the 1980s.
"Darroll can't see it, blind to the eyes;
He came up in your face OOPS POWE SURPRISE!"
Man-crushin' on #36 since he hit his "absolute ceiling" as a rookie in 2008.
april 11,2010
we aint have no pronger in 2009. durrr
by BobbyDucati on Dec 14, 2010 11:00 AM EST up reply actions
I’d rather ask when RAJ has some free time to come across the street and mentor Homer….
by DragonGirl0583 on Dec 14, 2010 10:10 AM EST up reply actions
That has been a total team transformation across the street. It be like taking this Flyers team and making it all wingers as opposed to centers, dmen, and goalies.
Geoff has Boosh, Mike's got Powe, Nodl is all mine!
Is this the right room for an argument?
I realize that, I’m just being facetious. It’s just the juxtaposition of how RAJ is viewed vs how Homer is viewed.
by DragonGirl0583 on Dec 14, 2010 10:15 AM EST up reply actions
RAJ doesn’t have a hard cap to manage though. If he doesn’t move Big Joe to someone they basically just increase their payroll as opposed to being screwed. If money wasn’t an issue both Homer and RAJ have went out and gotten key pieces that their respective teams needed (although not entirely for some spots)
If I didn’t love both teams, I’d find this a great chance for a trading places scenario.
RAJ would constantly need to be reminded that the salary cap is real and all of his trades violate it, while Homer sits nervously in his office waiting for someone to catch him because he violated the imaginary MLB cap.
Jeff Carter is better than Alex Ovechkin.
If you aquate Pitching To Goaltending RAJ trades would have been something like this.
Get Giguere at the deadline 09’
Trade Giguere for prospects 10’
Trade better prospects and JVR for Ryan Miller 10’
Trade Leighton and Prospects for Lunugo at deadling 10’
Let Carter walk as a free agent
Sign Giguere as free agent for 2011’
All while having stellar Bobrosky making peanuts on the roster to begin
We would have all the goalies just to prevent other teams for getting them.
And then Lavvy would ride whichever one’s hot for 82 games and you realize that it’s not quite the same as rotating pitchers.
Simon Gagne may move between towns, wear new jerseys and call different arenas home, but at the end of the day, he will always be a Philadelphia Flyer.
by PursuitOfLappyness on Dec 14, 2010 8:46 PM EST up reply actions
I am thinking he’d work great on a line of his own. Really with his command he can squeeze a baseball in any hole in goal, I’m sure he could just do the same with a hockey puck. And nobody on the ice will touch him since he’s wearing a Phillies jersey they’ll just think it was a drunk fan on the ice.
Too bad my idea will only work once… but it could be a clutch goal that we’d need!
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Good bye #12, you will always bleed Orange and Black.
by Lindbergh 31 on Dec 14, 2010 10:45 AM EST up reply actions
Halladay – Richards – Hamels
Hartnell – Briere – Leino
Lee – Giroux – Carter
Oswalt – Betts – Nodl
"Darroll can't see it, blind to the eyes;
He came up in your face OOPS POWE SURPRISE!"
Man-crushin' on #36 since he hit his "absolute ceiling" as a rookie in 2008.
I love how even in this comment you didn’t mess with the HBL line.
Jeff Carter is better than Alex Ovechkin.
Yeah I find that funny too, that line is awesomeness.
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Good bye #12, you will always bleed Orange and Black.
by Lindbergh 31 on Dec 14, 2010 10:49 AM EST up reply actions
He’s kind of suspended.
Flyers Fans: We've survived Lock-outs, Lindros and Cooperalls. If you want to get rid of us, you'll have to split an atom or two.
by KreiderDesigns on Dec 14, 2010 1:43 PM EST up reply actions
When ASF dropped that in his article, I almost gagged.
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by Geoff Detweiler on Dec 14, 2010 11:06 AM EST up reply actions
I’m not sure if this is a good or bad thing, but upon hearing about Clifton Phifer this morning, the first thing I thought was “Boy, Heather and J. Reed are going to be happy.”
Mind you, I wouldn’t know Heather and J. Reed if they came up and bit me on the leg. Call it the BSH effect. I got nothin’ but love for all you people, you denizens of teh inTart00bZ. Who are these peee-pullll????
"Darroll can't see it, blind to the eyes;
He came up in your face OOPS POWE SURPRISE!"
Man-crushin' on #36 since he hit his "absolute ceiling" as a rookie in 2008.
Oh, I did. I’s tired, because I was up until 4am celebrating with TGP. Sort of worried about how the Phils are going to pay for it all (i.e. who gets dumped or traded), but still in the afterglow as it were.
Lex clavatoris designati rescindenda est.
Blanton/Ibanez I would think are the immediate ones.
Geoff has Boosh, Mike's got Powe, Nodl is all mine!
Is this the right room for an argument?
So we’re in for the rotation of Halladay, Lee, Hamels, Oswalt, and maybe Vance Worley.
I would like some solidity in the OF please.
"Darroll can't see it, blind to the eyes;
He came up in your face OOPS POWE SURPRISE!"
Man-crushin' on #36 since he hit his "absolute ceiling" as a rookie in 2008.
I figured they could throw you in the 5th spot and we’d be good, 4 out of every 5, still gets ya 129 or 130 wins. Plus, you’ll definitely get a few W’s on the season, you are pretty wily.
Geoff has Boosh, Mike's got Powe, Nodl is all mine!
Is this the right room for an argument?
I do have a nasty slider.
The back of my jersey will just say “Mike” and I will wear the number 5.
"Darroll can't see it, blind to the eyes;
He came up in your face OOPS POWE SURPRISE!"
Man-crushin' on #36 since he hit his "absolute ceiling" as a rookie in 2008.
There’s already a Mike 5 on the Phils…he likes hugs.
Flyers Fans: We've survived Lock-outs, Lindros and Cooperalls. If you want to get rid of us, you'll have to split an atom or two.
by KreiderDesigns on Dec 14, 2010 12:56 PM EST up reply actions
I’ve got a nasty suspicion it’ll be Halladay, Lee, Oswalt, Hamels, and Kendrick. But that may just be my rampant pessimism.
Honor is no substitute for victory.
I’ve got a nasty suspicion it’ll be Halladay, Lee, Oswalt, Hamels, and
Kendrick.mikefive.
Fixed.
How funny would it be if I actually made the Phillies starting rotation next year? Maybe I’ve got some heretofore unknown talent for getting lots of ground-outs.
"Darroll can't see it, blind to the eyes;
He came up in your face OOPS POWE SURPRISE!"
Man-crushin' on #36 since he hit his "absolute ceiling" as a rookie in 2008.
Oh, I did.
You did what?
"Darroll can't see it, blind to the eyes;
He came up in your face OOPS POWE SURPRISE!"
Man-crushin' on #36 since he hit his "absolute ceiling" as a rookie in 2008.
Or they just raise ticket prices 5 bucks. There is no cap and they are swimming in money with the new stadium and selling out every game.
They already did that. They can’t sell out any more than they already did last year. The money has to come from somewhere and they don’t have their own network like the NYY or Red Sox. There are limits regardless of a lack of a salary cap. And thank God there isn’t one in baseball!
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Boosh goes to stretch first. He will start tonight.#Flyers
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by Mitchell Green on Dec 14, 2010 10:54 AM EST reply actions
I’m really getting the feeling that Bobmania is about to die down, and I could see him going to the AHL in the next few weeks.
Jeff Carter is better than Alex Ovechkin.
The work in a low-pressure setting might do him good.
May as well do it now, while he’s still waiver-exempt.
"Darroll can't see it, blind to the eyes;
He came up in your face OOPS POWE SURPRISE!"
Man-crushin' on #36 since he hit his "absolute ceiling" as a rookie in 2008.
Low-pressure = high-stress.
Not sure about the tradeoff.
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by Geoff Detweiler on Dec 14, 2010 11:09 AM EST up reply actions
I agree. If you send Bob down he might get the feeling he has to be perfect in that league since it’s such a drop in talent. Plus the Phantoms don’t exactly have the team to put in front of him if you want him gaining confidence and a knowledge of the game. Even his ridiculously fast reflexes can’t save him from the horror of ADK.
Flyers Fans: We've survived Lock-outs, Lindros and Cooperalls. If you want to get rid of us, you'll have to split an atom or two.
by KreiderDesigns on Dec 14, 2010 12:45 PM EST up reply actions
Yeah, it’s a disaster down there anyway, we don’t have to subject Bob to that. All of the goalies have horrific numbers, so it’s hard to figure out how bad they’re really playing without watching the games. If we keep Bob here, he gets to keep working with Reese and he’s probably better off in the long run.
by DragonGirl0583 on Dec 14, 2010 12:52 PM EST up reply actions
Perfect in this league? And then he can watch videos of Kovachuck’s penalty shot, or the final goal of the SCF last year, laugh and not worry about it.
And if I remember correctly, his team in Russia was pretty bad too. He may just feel more at home. .
"In fact, it is probably safe to say, the statement "I am a hockey fan" is the same as "I hate gary bettman."- bfrank27
That’s not to say I don’t want him back later… I do.
I just want him to work on those aspects of his game which need improvement. Where better to do that then The Phantoms, where he’ll face 50 shots a night?
"Darroll can't see it, blind to the eyes;
He came up in your face OOPS POWE SURPRISE!"
Man-crushin' on #36 since he hit his "absolute ceiling" as a rookie in 2008.
I’m a little concerned about Bobs as well. Teams are starting to get the book to shoot high because he butterflies early.
But he’ll adjust. He just needs time.
"Darroll can't see it, blind to the eyes;
He came up in your face OOPS POWE SURPRISE!"
Man-crushin' on #36 since he hit his "absolute ceiling" as a rookie in 2008.
I’m sympathetic to the argument, I just don’t know how much it will improve his game.
On a team that is as poor defensively as the Phantoms, why would Bob stop being the athletic goalie and become more of an angle and percentages goalie? If anything, he’ll be forced to make athletic saves even more because of the team in front of him.
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by Geoff Detweiler on Dec 14, 2010 11:29 AM EST up reply actions
Or he could exhaust himself doing so, leading him to try to become a more efficient goalie in his movements in order to hold up to a full season of NA hockey. Not saying I believe this, just trying to disagree with you.
Geoff has Boosh, Mike's got Powe, Nodl is all mine!
Is this the right room for an argument?
haha, I love when you go out of your way to disagree with me.
You’re right, that’s definitely a possibility though. It’s the preferred outcome, I’m just not convinced either way which is more likely.
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by Geoff Detweiler on Dec 14, 2010 11:41 AM EST up reply actions
Yeah, to be honest, as mature as he is, I don’t see him becoming more efficient. rather I see him working on strength and conditioning more, so his body can handle his athleticism over the span of a season of NA hockey. Just a hunch.
Geoff has Boosh, Mike's got Powe, Nodl is all mine!
Is this the right room for an argument?
Or he gets hurt making an amazing sprawling save playing his style that probably won’t change no matter the team.
Flyers Fans: We've survived Lock-outs, Lindros and Cooperalls. If you want to get rid of us, you'll have to split an atom or two.
by KreiderDesigns on Dec 14, 2010 12:47 PM EST up reply actions
Apropos of nothing else...
… the name “Linus Omark” is just awesome.
I don’t think ANYONE can disagree with that.
He sounds like he should be nominated for the Nobel Prize in Physics.
“Dr. Linus Omark was awarded the Nobel Prize in Physics for his research on the effect of radiation upon the galvanization process.”
"Darroll can't see it, blind to the eyes;
He came up in your face OOPS POWE SURPRISE!"
Man-crushin' on #36 since he hit his "absolute ceiling" as a rookie in 2008.
Oh, Sam...
Those on LTIR don’t count against cap.
I’m glad you ask are the outlier in the Flyers beat.
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by Geoff Detweiler on Dec 14, 2010 12:15 PM EST reply actions
you are*
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by Geoff Detweiler on Dec 14, 2010 12:15 PM EST up reply actions
It’s even worse that he said that to answer a question, rather than a casual mistake.
by DragonGirl0583 on Dec 14, 2010 12:17 PM EST up reply actions
I guess it depends though. Frankly, when I’ve tried to explain LTIR and the cap to the people in my section at the Flyers game, if their eyes glaze over, I just end up giving up on it and say it doesn’t count against the cap while they are on LTIR. So hopefully his reasoning is that he is capped on Twitter as far as characters in order to explain, or he is lazy, or he might not actually know.
Geoff has Boosh, Mike's got Powe, Nodl is all mine!
Is this the right room for an argument?
See that’s the thing, if you don’t know, I don’t think they should answer the question as if he knows. Just link the freakin’ FAQ page on CapGeek or something, but there’s so much misinformation out there, I hate to keep seeing them spread more. But it’s Carchidi so I can’t expect him to care enough to try to get a real answer.
by DragonGirl0583 on Dec 14, 2010 12:24 PM EST up reply actions
I can’t expect him to care enough to try to get a real answer.
This.
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by Geoff Detweiler on Dec 14, 2010 12:28 PM EST up reply actions
I don’t think he understands. And I don’t think he cares to understand. This is the only beat writer to not clarify that LTIR is an exemption, not a reduction.
I can see if he doesn’t care to explain why it’s a problem – that part is difficult – but it’s not hard to say “You can go over by that amount” instead of “it takes the amount off the cap”.
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by Geoff Detweiler on Dec 14, 2010 12:26 PM EST up reply actions
True, just feeling generous today.
Geoff has Boosh, Mike's got Powe, Nodl is all mine!
Is this the right room for an argument?
I credit not respond to CL anymore…I’ve been a much cheerier poster ever since.
Geoff has Boosh, Mike's got Powe, Nodl is all mine!
Is this the right room for an argument?
Apparently he was asking Shaun who I was b/c he was worried I was going to cheap shot him or some such thing. Unless he used a simile to call me a pussy again, I wasn’t going to just hit him for no reason haha.
Geoff has Boosh, Mike's got Powe, Nodl is all mine!
Is this the right room for an argument?
He wasn’t worried, it was a joke, at least I think it was.
Flyers Fans: We've survived Lock-outs, Lindros and Cooperalls. If you want to get rid of us, you'll have to split an atom or two.
by KreiderDesigns on Dec 14, 2010 1:12 PM EST up reply actions
This is my biggest thing. When the capologist says I’m wrong when I say the Flyers have $0 in cap space, I hope he means “they have additional room under the LTIR exemption”.
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by Geoff Detweiler on Dec 14, 2010 12:27 PM EST up reply actions
A few headlines from Penguin land...
Chris Kunitz missed practice yesterday but it looks like one of Bylsma’s maintenance days and he should be ready to go.
Malkin also practiced on the Crosby line yesterday but there’s all sorts of conflicting reports that he will play/will not play and I have a feeling if he does, it would be used only situationally, like PP only, not near his usual 20+ minutes.
Has definitely been a role-reversal of sorts this year, you’re almost always the ones leading the league in PIMs, but it’s us this time around leading the league in fighting majors. Too bad Shelley is suspended, so we probably won’t see the Godfather tonight but Engelland will be in for good measure.
This will be Asham’s first game back in Philly, what’s his reception going to be?
By all indications MAF should get his 15th start in 16 games tonight.
Good luck fellas and let the battle for the Atlantic commence!
That's like a pumpkin pie right in the face!
Off topic but congrats on getting Cliff Lee. That’s just not fair, there should be a rule somewhere that says you can’t have Halladay and Lee on the same team because of excessive ownage. So far the Buccos biggest offseason signing has been….uhh…Kevin Correia…#$@%
That's like a pumpkin pie right in the face!
by BobPurkey34 on Dec 14, 2010 12:33 PM EST up reply actions
To be fair, the Pirates are finally doing a rebuild properly. No sense in acquiring (well, trying to acquire) big name, expensive players when there isn’t a team already constructed. And this year should be another step in the process for them. Alvarez, Walker, McCutchen, and Tabata should continue to improve, now you just need pitching prospects.
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by Geoff Detweiler on Dec 14, 2010 12:36 PM EST up reply actions
I’m not saying we go after big names, there’s no point like you said. But we definitely could have got J.J. Hardy if they offered the right pieces and we also lost out on De La Rosa. But there is a lot of optimism around El Toro, Walker, Cutch and Tabata, now we just need a few complimentary guys.
now you just need pitching prospects
We have pitching prospects (Taillon, Allie, Morris, etc), they just aren’t ready.
That's like a pumpkin pie right in the face!
by BobPurkey34 on Dec 14, 2010 12:39 PM EST up reply actions
Fair enough. I admittedly don’t know much about the Pirates, but that’s still probably more than most people. I have no idea whether they have pitching prospects or not, just that they need pitching prospects to start pitching well for them.
I like De La Rosa, but Hardy is nothing to miss.
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by Geoff Detweiler on Dec 14, 2010 12:43 PM EST up reply actions
I don’t blame you. Some people don’t even realize Pittsburgh still has a baseball team.
We liked JDLR too but apparently not enough to pay him, which should probably be Bob Nutting’s motto. But when your starting SS is Ronny Cedeno, Hardy looks pretty good, especially at the price Baltimore got him for.
That's like a pumpkin pie right in the face!
by BobPurkey34 on Dec 14, 2010 12:48 PM EST up reply actions
LOL
Steve the Pirate? Scurvy?
That's like a pumpkin pie right in the face!
by BobPurkey34 on Dec 14, 2010 12:55 PM EST up reply actions
haha, I had no idea it was Ronny Cedeno. I think Eric Bruntlett is better than him…
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by Geoff Detweiler on Dec 14, 2010 12:57 PM EST up reply actions
Asham: He’ll get a good reception. I think everyone respected him, and it’s not like he chose to pursue free agency. Then the game will start.
Fighting: I think the middleweights will more than make up for Shelley’s absence. Carcillo is certain to throw, and I think we’ll probably end up running Cooke a few times until he drops em, too.
Crosby: There is absolutely no way his point streak comes to an end tonight. Bastards is a lock to pot at least one against us.
I suppose we’ll have to wait and see. I’ll be interested to see if he throws down tho, there’s plenty of middleweights on each team.
I’d probably put the over/under fights at 4. Engelland and Rupp are normally good for one, then Cookie possibly and some other random one.
Sid’s point streak almost ended against Buffalo. They did everything humanly possible to lock him down and it ultimately killed them because they completely forgot there were 17 other Penguin skaters on the ice.
That's like a pumpkin pie right in the face!
We need about tree fitty.
"Darroll can't see it, blind to the eyes;
He came up in your face OOPS POWE SURPRISE!"
Man-crushin' on #36 since he hit his "absolute ceiling" as a rookie in 2008.
Sorry… yes, I caught it on Twitter when I was following the Cliff Lee saga last night. It’s pretty funny, and as Puck Daddy said, what’s worse is that they didn’t fix it by the time they showed the answer.
by DragonGirl0583 on Dec 14, 2010 2:48 PM EST up reply actions
Haha, FAIL!
#1 Flyers Fan in New York
Good bye #12, you will always bleed Orange and Black.
by Lindbergh 31 on Dec 14, 2010 3:47 PM EST up reply actions
I liked the PD commenter who said
“Gretzky averaged just 0.71 games/game, while Crosby has been holding strong at 1 game/game for his whole career. That should settle the debate.”
If someone wanted to do it, I’m sure they’d get a discussion going.
You can always do an as a Penguin segment here, I’d be happy to answer crap
That's like a pumpkin pie right in the face!
Well, that would only work if you’re an actual member of the Pittsburgh Penguins.
Or a former member.
Please tell me you’re not Tony Tanti.
"Darroll can't see it, blind to the eyes;
He came up in your face OOPS POWE SURPRISE!"
Man-crushin' on #36 since he hit his "absolute ceiling" as a rookie in 2008.
Nope, just a fan. Sorry to disappoint. Although I have met the ol 29er a couple times
That's like a pumpkin pie right in the face!
I see. The “Ask A Flyer” segment was one of the Flyers’ beat writers asking our questions to certain members of the Flyers, and videotaping the interview.
Even though Phil Bourque was a Penguin, I did enjoy watching him play. He seemed to enjoy the game a lot. Unfortunately for me, I was at this game, which he won for you guys.
Fortunately, I also got to go to this game.
"Darroll can't see it, blind to the eyes;
He came up in your face OOPS POWE SURPRISE!"
Man-crushin' on #36 since he hit his "absolute ceiling" as a rookie in 2008.
I got your meaning wrong
We used to do a thing where a member of Pensburgh goes to the opposing site and answers some questions, so that’s what I was talking about.
But your version sounds cool too, I’d like to have something like that.
That's like a pumpkin pie right in the face!
We used to do a thing where a member of Pensburgh goes to the opposing site and answers some questions, so that’s what I was talking about.
We’ve done that too… or, I should say, Travis has done it.
The “Ask A Flyer” thing was new this year and it was cool. Hopefully it comes back.
"Darroll can't see it, blind to the eyes;
He came up in your face OOPS POWE SURPRISE!"
Man-crushin' on #36 since he hit his "absolute ceiling" as a rookie in 2008.
I remember that, before each game it was like “5 questions for Pensburgh” or something.
by DragonGirl0583 on Dec 14, 2010 2:46 PM EST up reply actions
If I remember right we’ve occasionally had prospects and draft picks come on but nobody of any particular significance.
But either way, you can ask the Pens fan whatever, I’ll try to answer to the best of my abilities. While we’re at it, who’s getting the start for the Flyers today, is it Boucher or Bob?
That's like a pumpkin pie right in the face!
Boosh, according to all the beat writers this morning (and they were reporting that yesterday, too).
by DragonGirl0583 on Dec 14, 2010 2:49 PM EST up reply actions
Probably a good call
He’s been playing very well over the last couple games.
That's like a pumpkin pie right in the face!
Yeah I’ve been wondering what happened to that, too.
by DragonGirl0583 on Dec 14, 2010 2:47 PM EST up reply actions
IT CAN’T BE DEAD TILL CARCILLO TALKS THROUGH THIS MAJIC COMPUTER-BOX! IT CAN’T BE
Laperriere is my hero
Carcillo's my lover
Bobrovsky's my savior
Hockeys my life
by Cillo stache on Dec 14, 2010 3:34 PM EST up reply actions
Right, i was wondering what happened with Carcillo. I know we submitted questions way back then, and then it didnt’ come since they were on a road trip. I forgot about it, but now I want it BACK!
#1 Flyers Fan in New York
Good bye #12, you will always bleed Orange and Black.
by Lindbergh 31 on Dec 14, 2010 3:49 PM EST up reply actions
So RAJ for Flyers GM?
I think he is smug enough that he might just try it, just so he can prove that he can do it.
BOILER UP!! 2010-2011
"You can commit no mistake and still lose. That is not a weakness. That is life." - Jean-Luc Picard
He was the Flyers GM, his name was Bobby Clarke.
Neither were great talent evaluator but had strong scouting staffs.
Both handed out awful contracts like candy.
Neither believed in long-term planning and were VERY reactive.
Both had some utterly awful trades (giving Cliff Lee away, the Gratton trade, the AWFUL Falloon trade, the Lindros trade)
But they also had some outright brilliant moves (trading for Leclair/Recchi, the Langkow trade, the Kapanen deal, the Oswalt trade, the first Lee trade).
And when in doubt, they could throw money at the problem (Roenick, Lee).
The only thing missing is the accent and juvenile diabetes. I really think they’re the same person.
Jeff Carter is better than Alex Ovechkin.
I was thinking the other trade – we gave up a ton for Lindros:
Peter Forsberg
Steve Duchesne
Kerry Huffman
Mike Ricci
Ron Hextall
Chris Simon
1993 RD1 pick (#10 overall Jocelyn Thibault – other available players with that pick included Saku Koivu and Jamie Langenbrunner)
1994 RD1 pick (#10 overal Nolan Baumgartner – other available players included Mattias Ohlund, Patrik Elias, and Ethan Moreau)
$15 million dollars
Honor is no substitute for victory.
It always hurts seeing that, especially considering Thibault was a centerpiece for the Roy trade. But that was Russ Farwell still.
Jeff Carter is better than Alex Ovechkin.
I tend to feel hurt seeing the name Peter Forsberg on the top of that list. Especially because no-one knew how good he would be. Having prime Lindros and prime Foppa center your top two lines…how amazing would that be?
Simon Gagne may move between towns, wear new jerseys and call different arenas home, but at the end of the day, he will always be a Philadelphia Flyer.
by PursuitOfLappyness on Dec 14, 2010 8:52 PM EST up reply actions
Bobby Clarke was a really good hockey player; RAJ was a 4th outfielder. I think it’s still too early to declare first Lee trade a failure. It’s possible, but not certain yet.
Lex clavatoris designati rescindenda est.
I, and Baseball America, would beg to differ. Those three prospects are absolute garbage. I’d bet you an autographer Mike Richards jersey against an autographed Riley Cote puck that none of those three will ever become useful contributors for the Phillies.
Jeff Carter is better than Alex Ovechkin.
Define “useful contributor” – are we talking regular starter or defensive replacement/pinch hitter for the replacement guys, and starter, reliever, closer, and/or LOOGY for the pitchers?
Honor is no substitute for victory.
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