Game 58, Preview and Game Thread: Philadelphia Flyers at New Jersey Devils
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#8 Philadelphia Flyers (29-25-3, 61 pts) at #2 New Jersey Devils (36-20-2, 74 pts)
Prudential Center - 7:00 PM ET - Newark, NJ
TV: CSN Philly HD, MSG Plus HD
Radio: 610 WIP, XM 204
This is the open game thread.
Get New Jersey reaction at In Lou We Trust
While there might only be about nine fans at the game tonight in Newark thanks to the snow, the Philadelphia Flyers are successfully in the building and the game tonight will go on. Michael Leighton will be in net yet again for the Flyers and Ville Leino will not play. Again.
Over at SBN's In Lou We Trust, they're still a little miffed about Jeff Carter's hit on Anssi Salmela the other night. Here's Steve Lepore of ILWT, directing Devils fans to our coverage of the game tonight.
... once again the guys at Broad Street Hockey should have some far-fetched defense for why Jeff Carter didn't even get a fine for that hit when even Colin White got a fine for that hit on Long Island good Flyer-centric material leading up to the game.
We won't touch that, but it's at least worth mentioning. Must be some pro-Flyers bias in those league offices, am I right?
On to the game, the Flyers will need to be better than they were on Monday night against these same Devils. They've been playing mediocre hockey for the better part of the last month or so up in New Jersey, but coach Jacques Lemaire had a nice, long chat with his team yesterday and they focused on what their major problems have been.
Ilya Kovalchuk has yet to score for the Devils, despite nine shots on Tuesday night. Most of them came courtesy of a whopping 11-plus minutes of power play time. It appears that they're kind of forcing the issue and trying to get Kovalchuk the puck simply too often, which you'd think means that it'lll be easier for the Flyers to defend on the penalty kill.
Regardless, though, the Flyers cannot afford to take penalties at will again tonight because it's only a matter of time before Kovalchuk pots a few of those. The Flyers also have to get solid goaltending from Leighton again tonight and the offense will have to, you know, not disappear again. Basic stuff, really. We all know what this team has to do. It's just a matter of them doing it.
After the jump, expected line combinations, starting goaltenders, questions to answer and our in-game discussion.
Flyers Line Combinations
Gagne - Richards - Carcillo
Hartnell - Carter - Briere
JVR - Giroux - Asham
Powe - Betts - Laperriere
Pronger - Carle
Timonen - Krajicek
Bartulis - Coburn
New Jersey Line Combinations
Parise - Zajac - Langenbrunner
Kovalchuk - Zubrus - Elias
Pandolfo - Niedermayer - Rolston
Peters - McAmmond - Leblond
Salvador - Greene
Mottau - White
Davison- Fraser
Starting Goaltenders
Questions To Answer
- Can the Flyers stay out of the penalty box?
- Will the Flyers avoid falling to an early deficit tonight?
- Can they stop Kovalchuk... again?
- Any revenge for Jeff Carter's hit on Anssi Salmela?
- Sticking with Carter, how's he play after being notified that he'll have to head to Vancouver in case Ryan Getzlaf can't take part in the Olympics?
- How many people are in the building tonight in the midst of this blizzard?
Tonight's game is back with JJ on CSN Philly and on the radio at 610 WIP. As always, join us here for the conversation and LET'S GO FLYERS!
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Ask those Devils fans why Scott Stevens was never suspended or fined for his hit on Lindros (and similar hits like it throughout the years).
Same hit, same unfortunate result. A bit late, but acceptable within the rules. Don’t like the rules, change them.
"Tortorella’s got it all wrong ... Gaborik shouldn’t be messing with our skilled player." -Peter Luuko
Actually, don’t do that. I did the other day, and they were none too happy. They jumped all over me. But interestingly enough, some weren’t claiming the league office was pro-Flyers, but rather anti-Devils.
Why? It’s a totally valid comparison. We’re told to shut up when we whine about our players being bullied on the ice because “zOMG, Flyers are biggest goons ever!” but this is also an example of the proverbial elbow pot calling the kettle black.
"Tortorella’s got it all wrong ... Gaborik shouldn’t be messing with our skilled player." -Peter Luuko
Well, check the thread out. At first I was only making a joke about the Lindros hit, not really drawing a direct comparison, but one of their subscribers jumped all over me, accusing me of trolling and bringing up a decade old issue. But my main point was that everyone seems to scream for blood after every hard hit anymore, regardless of whether it was dirty or not.
I know, and the bottom line is, no matter how many rule changes they make, there will also be something that isn’t safe. It’s a dangerous sport and not for the weak. For shit’s sake, they skate on one pair of weapons while brandishing another. This ain’t the ice capades.
"Tortorella’s got it all wrong ... Gaborik shouldn’t be messing with our skilled player." -Peter Luuko
I’m getting a little stir crazy in dc. We have 3 ft of snow on the ground and haven’t been to work all week. My gf and I have seen pretty much every movie netflix streams now (check out “beer wars”) as well as gotten tired being naked in bed together. I didn’t believe that last part could happen. Thank god this game is on to give us something new.
by Chocula78 on Feb 10, 2010 6:14 PM EST via mobile reply actions
Yeah, only 16 new inches in the Lehigh Valley, but enough to keep me home. I’ve been waiting all day for the game. I hope my wait is rewarded.
My snowman got buried in the snow!
So glad the games on. I have major cabin fever
by Prometheus74 on Feb 10, 2010 6:25 PM EST up reply actions
once again the guys at Broad Street Hockey should have some far-fetched defense for why Jeff Carter didn’t even get a fine for that hit
Keep it retarded, Jersey.
Its probably because, as completely objective people like Bob McKenzie said: “I do not view it as a head shot per se. It wasn’t late. It started as shoulder on shoulder and force rode up into Salmela’s head.”
+1000
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by Travis Hughes on Feb 10, 2010 6:25 PM EST up reply actions
weird enough, but the consensus in the comments is that the hit was clean and within the rules. this was by flyers haters and lovers alike. i really didn’t expect that.
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oops, forgot to add that the comments read were from such sites as puck daddy
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Now if Puck Daddy commenters don’t feel like that a Flyer should have been suspended for a questionable hit, then you know your argument for a suspension is complete BS.
What a shame that it’s Lepore saying that as well. His hockey media website is fairly decent.
Proudly supporting a Flyers team with "no honor".
He’s a nice guy, yeah. We go back and forth on Twitter some times. Seems pretty reasonable, generally speaking.
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by Travis Hughes on Feb 10, 2010 6:35 PM EST up reply actions
i think the better question is:
will the snow keep away those legions of philly fans who usually head up to jersey for the game?
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I thought about going and I didn’t because of the snow.. so, take that for what it’s worth. I’m not really near a convenient train route though, so I’d have to drive.
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by Travis Hughes on Feb 10, 2010 6:27 PM EST up reply actions
are major highways ever illeigally closed?
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Further up north, I dont know about philly area
by Prometheus74 on Feb 10, 2010 6:32 PM EST up reply actions
The Schuylkill, Vine Street Expressway, and the Blue Route are all shut down right now.
As far as I know, the NJ Turnpike is open but on a 35 mph speed limit the whole way.
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by Travis Hughes on Feb 10, 2010 6:33 PM EST up reply actions
are major highways ever illegally closed?
Closed for legal reasons, as opposed to being merely impassable and closed. Its actually illegal to drive on them.
Well I dont know its its actually legal for the cops to block all the entrances to 95 in CT and RI but they have done it in the past
by Prometheus74 on Feb 10, 2010 6:39 PM EST up reply actions
Atlantic and Cape May counties also had a complete travel ban during the storm over the weekend. So yes, they do shut down.
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by Travis Hughes on Feb 10, 2010 6:38 PM EST up reply actions
Camden county has a travel ban until midnight tonight, too
by DragonGirl0583 on Feb 10, 2010 6:41 PM EST up reply actions
I’m going to go with 300 ppl in attendance, with at least 60 of them coming from JVR’s family/friends.
"Tortorella’s got it all wrong ... Gaborik shouldn’t be messing with our skilled player." -Peter Luuko
The record-low is 334 fans. 1987, also in a snow storm
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by Travis Hughes on Feb 10, 2010 6:40 PM EST up reply actions
They could get on NJT in Middletown and not have to drive, so I’m with you on that one.
Actually, they may not go as low as that record, simply because the new arena is so close to the train station
by DragonGirl0583 on Feb 10, 2010 6:43 PM EST up reply actions
Yeah, there was no train connection to the Meadowlands back then. Isn’t really one now, even.
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by Travis Hughes on Feb 10, 2010 6:44 PM EST up reply actions
Although they are running with significant delays, so a lot of people still won’t make it
by DragonGirl0583 on Feb 10, 2010 6:54 PM EST up reply actions
Game is on Yahoo tonight.
http://sports.yahoo.com/nhl/scoreboard;_ylt=AmhnXec09mhfG6SEULPPEqwsvLYF
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I remember a snow storm in the past when the Flyers/Rangers played that night. IIRC, Tom Poti had hooked Handzus and got a penalty shot in overtime.
I think it was Lindros’ second game back, maybe?
Since it came up earlier, I just checked their site for the heck of it….
The Devils are offering ticket holders for tonights game 50% off the ticket price of a future game, whether or not they go tonight. But it seems that if they dont go, they only get the discount if they buy tickets for those other games, no straight exchange.
Woah, weird. Parise scratched.
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How empty, like less than 500 people kind of empty?
by DragonGirl0583 on Feb 10, 2010 7:04 PM EST up reply actions
I hope they crank up the on ice microphones since the arena is so empty
by Prometheus74 on Feb 10, 2010 7:04 PM EST up reply actions
Indeed, that’s a must.
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by Geoff Detweiler on Feb 10, 2010 7:04 PM EST up reply actions
It was only about 5 seconds, but my digital cable box takes FOREVER to download the data from comcast
by DragonGirl0583 on Feb 10, 2010 7:05 PM EST up reply actions
Yeah, that’s the worst. Do you have another tv not hooked up to a box?
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by Travis Hughes on Feb 10, 2010 7:06 PM EST up reply actions
Nope, each TV has your standard issue comcast digital cable box, so if one goes they both go
by DragonGirl0583 on Feb 10, 2010 7:07 PM EST up reply actions
I think I’ll just load the feed in the background, my internet recovers much faster
by DragonGirl0583 on Feb 10, 2010 7:07 PM EST up reply actions
I love how Coatesy is talking about the 1-2 punch, with no mention of Parise being scratched.
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by Geoff Detweiler on Feb 10, 2010 7:04 PM EST reply actions
He lacks… um, what’s it called. Intelligence.
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by Travis Hughes on Feb 10, 2010 7:04 PM EST up reply actions
or reading comprehension.
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by Travis Hughes on Feb 10, 2010 7:05 PM EST up reply actions
I know they plan it, and they surely do all the graphics and video editing, but I don’t think they record Coatesy talking.
I could be wrong on that though. I just always see him standing rinkside with very little light on, players skating, and those awesome logos swirling in the faceoff dots.
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by Geoff Detweiler on Feb 10, 2010 7:07 PM EST up reply actions
Yeah. The voiceovers are before the game but the intro in the booth and Coatesy at ice level are live.
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by Travis Hughes on Feb 10, 2010 7:08 PM EST up reply actions
Open question: If you were at this game, and you can presumably sit anywhere (who’s going to make you sit in the upper level?), where would you sit?
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by Geoff Detweiler on Feb 10, 2010 7:05 PM EST reply actions
center ice, 16 rows up.
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by Travis Hughes on Feb 10, 2010 7:06 PM EST up reply actions
Yes, opposite the benches.
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by Travis Hughes on Feb 10, 2010 7:07 PM EST up reply actions
Behind the Debbies bench, so I could heckle the hell out of them.
Some think too much, then come too soon
I just curse the sun, so I can howl at the moon
That’s always fun, but you’ve gotta be like 3 rows up from them so they don’t obscure your view during line changes
by DragonGirl0583 on Feb 10, 2010 7:08 PM EST up reply actions
that happens?
huh. never thought about that.
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I learned the hard way…. My seats were the row directly behind the hershey bench during the phantoms playoffs last year
by DragonGirl0583 on Feb 10, 2010 7:10 PM EST up reply actions
And I’m really short, that didn’t help
by DragonGirl0583 on Feb 10, 2010 7:10 PM EST up reply actions
I’m short too, sitting behind Danny wouldn’t even help haha.
Some think too much, then come too soon
I just curse the sun, so I can howl at the moon
I’m significantly shorter than Briere though….
by DragonGirl0583 on Feb 10, 2010 7:20 PM EST up reply actions
I’d definitely sit behind Marty. I love watching vertical hockey, not so much horizontal.
But I have never sat behind the penalty box, so that’s intriguing to me as well.
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by Geoff Detweiler on Feb 10, 2010 7:08 PM EST up reply actions
Seems to me like there’s too much crap in front of you down that low to obstruct the view. I hate sitting ice level, too.
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by Travis Hughes on Feb 10, 2010 7:10 PM EST up reply actions
Oh, yeah, I should have said about 5 rows up
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by Geoff Detweiler on Feb 10, 2010 7:10 PM EST up reply actions
and tell Hartnell he really needs to cut his mop
by Prometheus74 on Feb 10, 2010 7:08 PM EST up reply actions
no I promise you if he shaves his head they drink from the cup!
by Prometheus74 on Feb 10, 2010 8:29 PM EST up reply actions
I said the other night we should get him to chop it all off and donate it… honestly, I think it’s long enough for Lock of Love, then we wouldn’t have to look at it anymore
by DragonGirl0583 on Feb 10, 2010 8:30 PM EST up reply actions
I hope so.
Hed look just like curley from the 3 stooges
by Prometheus74 on Feb 10, 2010 8:34 PM EST up reply actions
OH JESUS CHRIST
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I’m not going to make that kind of statement based on one fluke goal like that
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by Travis Hughes on Feb 10, 2010 7:11 PM EST up reply actions
and forgetting all the game-saving stops he made the other night in the third period.
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by Travis Hughes on Feb 10, 2010 7:14 PM EST up reply actions
Yep, this teams’ problems are because Leighton is in goal.
Please, he’s been more than fine for this team so far.
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by Travis Hughes on Feb 10, 2010 7:18 PM EST up reply actions
Don’t kid yourself, Travis. This team has no gaping problems. Would we like to have more scoring depth? Sure, what team wouldn’t? But I’m happy with where we are right now.
/Homer’d
by Ben Feldman on Feb 10, 2010 7:20 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
haha very nice
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by Geoff Detweiler on Feb 10, 2010 7:20 PM EST up reply actions
Did I say this team’s problem was that Leighton was in goal? No, I just said that this team needs a goalie. This team’s problems extend well beyond their goalie. Leighton has done a fantastic job so far but over the last week or so he has let in some rather pathetic goals. I understand goalies will do that from time to time but lets not forget, Leighton is a career back up.
haha, yeah. What, the puck wasn’t going slow enough the first time?
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by Geoff Detweiler on Feb 10, 2010 7:12 PM EST up reply actions
Because you know Boucher is doing the same thing…
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by Geoff Detweiler on Feb 10, 2010 7:11 PM EST reply actions
Just more speculation.
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by Geoff Detweiler on Feb 10, 2010 7:18 PM EST up reply actions
He said probably a concussion, because of the headaches.
Some think too much, then come too soon
I just curse the sun, so I can howl at the moon
Well that’s what I said that night, so I was just curious
by DragonGirl0583 on Feb 10, 2010 7:20 PM EST up reply actions
We got them right where we want them.
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by Geoff Detweiler on Feb 10, 2010 7:22 PM EST reply actions
In 30 minutes, we’ll show up.
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by Geoff Detweiler on Feb 10, 2010 7:22 PM EST up reply actions
Timonen’s skate.
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Where are these magical things called Flyers goals that we saw 2 days ago?
Proudly supporting a Flyers team with "no honor".
right there
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by Geoff Detweiler on Feb 10, 2010 7:23 PM EST up reply actions
Krajicek and TImonen have been incredibly solid together.
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by Geoff Detweiler on Feb 10, 2010 7:23 PM EST up reply actions
ARRON ASHAM HELL YES BABAY
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Smash’Em!
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by Geoff Detweiler on Feb 10, 2010 7:23 PM EST reply actions
Is the stream blocked out or something?
by DragonGirl0583 on Feb 10, 2010 7:24 PM EST up reply actions
Did you see the dbag in the Brodeur jersey mocking the Flyers fan after the Devils 2nd goal?
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by Travis Hughes on Feb 10, 2010 7:26 PM EST up reply actions
St Patty’s Day?
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by Travis Hughes on Feb 10, 2010 7:28 PM EST up reply actions
St Patrick’s day promotion with those horrid green shirts they’re selling?
by DragonGirl0583 on Feb 10, 2010 7:28 PM EST up reply actions
Season tickets to ensure the ability to buy playoff tickets?
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by Geoff Detweiler on Feb 10, 2010 7:28 PM EST up reply actions
this
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by Travis Hughes on Feb 10, 2010 7:28 PM EST up reply actions
I missed it, what was it?
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by Travis Hughes on Feb 10, 2010 7:30 PM EST up reply actions
It basically boiled down to which Brick NJ native played for the flyers, and the choices were Jim Dowd, RJ umberger, and… shoot! who was the 3rd?
by DragonGirl0583 on Feb 10, 2010 7:32 PM EST up reply actions
Once again: physics says that’s a goal. The camera says it’s inconclusive.
by Ben Feldman on Feb 10, 2010 7:35 PM EST reply actions 1 recs
Yes.
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by Travis Hughes on Feb 10, 2010 7:35 PM EST up reply actions
This.
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by Geoff Detweiler on Feb 10, 2010 7:35 PM EST up reply actions
All the angles, assholes
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That's a goal.....
Pretty easy to see
by Ivan Monteiro Prado on Feb 10, 2010 7:35 PM EST reply actions
There is no way that they dont give us this goal. No way. The NHL is corrupt if its no goal. NO WAY its not a goal.
by orangeandblack20 on Feb 10, 2010 7:36 PM EST reply actions
Keep telling yourself this.
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by Geoff Detweiler on Feb 10, 2010 7:36 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Like JJ just said, “the law of physics” say it’s a goal. Does the video?
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by Geoff Detweiler on Feb 10, 2010 7:36 PM EST up reply actions
It’s not really being screwed if we don’t get the call. The rules are the rules, unfortunately.
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The puck is in the net. It crossed the line. Period.
by orangeandblack20 on Feb 10, 2010 7:39 PM EST up reply actions
But you can’t prove it.
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by Geoff Detweiler on Feb 10, 2010 7:39 PM EST up reply actions
No, not period. The rules say you have to see it. That’s a good rule. If that rule doesn’t exist, everything becomes a judgment call.
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by Travis Hughes on Feb 10, 2010 7:40 PM EST up reply actions
That richards shot with the injured guy in the way reminded me of Tombstone….“Get to fighting or get out of the way”
Hows it going boys. Should i stop watching GI Jane and attempt to watch the game?
TAKE THE FALL, ACT HURT, GET INDIGNANT
by CoburnsCuddleBuddy on Feb 10, 2010 7:37 PM EST reply actions
you should have never started that peice of crap in the first place
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haha, agreed.
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by Geoff Detweiler on Feb 10, 2010 7:38 PM EST up reply actions
Love this movie. Ridley Scott is a fantastic director
TAKE THE FALL, ACT HURT, GET INDIGNANT
by CoburnsCuddleBuddy on Feb 10, 2010 7:39 PM EST up reply actions
Told you they would not give us that goal.
Toronto, ladies and gentlemen!
Proudly supporting a Flyers team with "no honor".
It’s the rules.
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by Travis Hughes on Feb 10, 2010 7:39 PM EST up reply actions
I think they need to revisit the rules, because the rules sort of suck.
"Tortorella’s got it all wrong ... Gaborik shouldn’t be messing with our skilled player." -Peter Luuko
It a lot of places.
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by Geoff Detweiler on Feb 10, 2010 7:44 PM EST up reply actions
Am I the only one that has no doubts about this one??
That puck crossed that line…
by Ivan Monteiro Prado on Feb 10, 2010 7:39 PM EST reply actions
So if the puck is in a guy’s glove and that glove is in the goal… It’s not a goal because you can’t see the puck?
by JasonB on Feb 10, 2010 7:39 PM EST reply actions 1 recs
I think they have to be able to prove conclusively that every square inch of the glove is entirely behind the line in that case
by DragonGirl0583 on Feb 10, 2010 7:40 PM EST up reply actions
yeah, because you can’t see where the puck is. You have to see white between the puck and the goal line, and you can’t do that when it’s not visible.
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by Geoff Detweiler on Feb 10, 2010 7:40 PM EST up reply actions
And seeing as people in Toronto are incompetent morons who don’t know jacksh!t about physics…
Proudly supporting a Flyers team with "no honor".
It doesn’t matter if you have Albert Einstein in Toronto: They have to see it in the net, not do a calculation that shows probability.
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by Geoff Detweiler on Feb 10, 2010 7:43 PM EST up reply actions
If the whole glove is over the line, it’s a goal. Brodeur’s glove was on the line so part of the puck could be on the line.
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by Travis Hughes on Feb 10, 2010 7:40 PM EST up reply actions
You know, it really wouldn’t be hard to set up a system that can tell electronically if the puck is over the line.
Just put a damn chip in the puck and a some sort of sensor on the line and we’re good to go
by Ivan Monteiro Prado on Feb 10, 2010 7:42 PM EST up reply actions
This is horrible. Absolutley horrible.
by orangeandblack20 on Feb 10, 2010 7:39 PM EST reply actions
and then the refs get in the way of timmonen puck handling.
CONSPIRACY
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But I thought the league was out to get the Devils?
"Tortorella’s got it all wrong ... Gaborik shouldn’t be messing with our skilled player." -Peter Luuko
To appease Devils fans, let’s just call that a makeup call for the Carter hit.
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If the puck crosses the line in the Devil’s Arena and no one is around to see it, is it a goal?
by phish'n on Feb 10, 2010 7:40 PM EST reply actions 1 recs
Why don’t they put a little chip in the puck and a sensor on the line that signals the goal light when the puck crosses the line?
It might sound drastic but so was using instant replay in baseball before it started happening.
But where is that censor? In the middle of the puck? Is it a ring? What if it’s on edge?
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by Geoff Detweiler on Feb 10, 2010 7:42 PM EST up reply actions
They need to do something similar to spot shot in tennis
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by Travis Hughes on Feb 10, 2010 7:43 PM EST up reply actions
I’m not familiar with the technology
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by Geoff Detweiler on Feb 10, 2010 7:45 PM EST up reply actions
I’ve been planning on writing about it for a while. Probably going to during the Olympics.
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by Travis Hughes on Feb 10, 2010 7:49 PM EST up reply actions
It would be similar to what they do with invisible fences for dog. The little chip is in the puck, if it crosses the line, the sensors would be built into the posts so that when it crosses that invisible barrier it sends a signal to turn the red light on…it’s completely workable. Whether its needed or not is another story.
There’s a couple of different ways to do it, so it’s totally doable
by DragonGirl0583 on Feb 10, 2010 7:46 PM EST up reply actions
You know when you buy a shirt and the lady forgets to take that “safety device” out and the thing starts screaming when you walk through the door??
It’s the exact same thing
by Ivan Monteiro Prado on Feb 10, 2010 7:48 PM EST up reply actions
A puck’s 3 inches in diameter, so 1.5 inches from center to edge. Put an RFID chip in the center of the puck, and the trigger line 1.5 inches back from the goal-line. If the chip hits the line, the puck’s in. It won’t catch the ones that are on edge that only go 1.25 inches in, but I don’t think there are too many of those anyway.
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And all I ask of you is
Believe"
Even if you only use one chip in the center, another options would be to place a grid of sensors under the entire goal area instead of just on the line, then you’d be able to easily triangulate the exact position of the puck.
by DragonGirl0583 on Feb 11, 2010 3:28 PM EST up reply actions
you could see the puck through the mesh in glove on the zoom in they should on yahoo, it was a goal but we get screwed again
if I was a goalie I would start wearing all black pads and blocker and unwebbed all black gloves so the Toronto would never be able to see the puck
They outlawed that after the ANA/DET controversy last year.
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by Geoff Detweiler on Feb 10, 2010 7:42 PM EST up reply actions
wasn’t there some kerfluffle last year about a goalie wearing white pads with a netting print on them?
Eat what the monkey eats, then eat the monkey. -U.S. Navy survival guidance
That sounds familiar, but I don’t think it was in the NHL. Either way, I know nothing about it other than it sounds familiar.
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by Geoff Detweiler on Feb 10, 2010 7:44 PM EST up reply actions
It was a HS kid in Massachusetts, I think
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by Travis Hughes on Feb 10, 2010 7:49 PM EST up reply actions
When JJ says, “And Marty Brodeur beaten twice, but only one counted” you know they botched the call.
by orangeandblack20 on Feb 10, 2010 7:48 PM EST reply actions
One was all Leighton, the second was just thrown in front and tipped off Kimmo
by orangeandblack20 on Feb 10, 2010 7:49 PM EST up reply actions
in summary, what has happened
TAKE THE FALL, ACT HURT, GET INDIGNANT
by CoburnsCuddleBuddy on Feb 10, 2010 7:48 PM EST reply actions
They scored a weak, weak goal,
then they scored a lucky goal
Then we scored a great goal
Then we scored but they did not allow it
by Prometheus74 on Feb 10, 2010 7:50 PM EST up reply actions
They scored a weak one early, a lucky one in the middle, we answerd twenty seconds later to make it 2-1. With about seven left Hartnell put one in that was clearly a goal, that they didn’t count. Puck in glove… glove in net… therefore puck in net… but Toronto didn’t coutn it. It was a no brainer.
by orangeandblack20 on Feb 10, 2010 7:50 PM EST up reply actions
leighton didn’t squeeze the pads on a routine shot. devils 1-0
bad deflection off of timmonen’s leg (like pronger the other night). devils 2-0
asham with a nice wrister: devils 2-1
harnell’s no goal uphelf for lack of complete evidence: devils 2-1
all in all, i think the fourth line played the best.
Eat what the monkey eats, then eat the monkey. -U.S. Navy survival guidance
we’re still in it then. nice
TAKE THE FALL, ACT HURT, GET INDIGNANT
by CoburnsCuddleBuddy on Feb 10, 2010 7:52 PM EST up reply actions
Absolutely. That was actually a decent period for the Flyers.
Proudly supporting a Flyers team with "no honor".
It kind of frightens me how far our standards have dropped, but I’m with you for the last oh, 12 minutes or so.
by DragonGirl0583 on Feb 10, 2010 7:55 PM EST up reply actions
martin just destroyed tyler kennedy over in the islaes/pens game
Eat what the monkey eats, then eat the monkey. -U.S. Navy survival guidance
In other news…
..it is still snowing like hell in South Philly. Ugh.
Some think too much, then come too soon
I just curse the sun, so I can howl at the moon
Supposed to be 3 more inches tonight.
"Tortorella’s got it all wrong ... Gaborik shouldn’t be messing with our skilled player." -Peter Luuko
Still snowing like hell in Stratford too. And with that lovely 4 hour period of freezing rain this morning, there should be a fun layer of ice in between the snow from Sat and the snow from today
by DragonGirl0583 on Feb 10, 2010 8:04 PM EST up reply actions
More snow on Monday, I heard
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by Travis Hughes on Feb 10, 2010 8:05 PM EST up reply actions
Not supposed to go above freezing until next Friday. Snow could be here for quite a while.
"Tortorella’s got it all wrong ... Gaborik shouldn’t be messing with our skilled player." -Peter Luuko
It’s going to be a nightmare when it all melts.
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by Travis Hughes on Feb 10, 2010 8:09 PM EST up reply actions
Oy vey…. I didn’t need the vacation I was originally planning this weekend, I feel like I’m already there with all the stupid snow
by DragonGirl0583 on Feb 10, 2010 8:15 PM EST up reply actions
Gagne needs to stop passing. Evidence right there.
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by Geoff Detweiler on Feb 10, 2010 8:06 PM EST reply actions
Im digging Asham Giroux and JVR more than that line
by Prometheus74 on Feb 10, 2010 8:08 PM EST up reply actions
I’m late on this, but I just noticed it. I’m feeling like it’s been almost 2 years since any line combinations have been attempted that separate Gags and Richie…. They’ve had success in the past, but as much as Lavvy has juggled the lines I have never seen him try them apart
by DragonGirl0583 on Feb 10, 2010 8:43 PM EST up reply actions
AND THE FLYERS ARE GOING ON…..
Eat what the monkey eats, then eat the monkey. -U.S. Navy survival guidance
Giroux-Richards-Gagne PP unit is missing something… Oh, a net presence.
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by Geoff Detweiler on Feb 10, 2010 8:10 PM EST reply actions
We don’t take shots from the point either
by Chocula78 on Feb 10, 2010 8:14 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
doing much better on faceoffs
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JVR didn’t look good that shift, but he redeemed himself with a nice stick check and shot block.
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by Geoff Detweiler on Feb 10, 2010 8:13 PM EST reply actions
Leighton did an awesome job right there to make that save. Very underrated kinda play.
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Probably the best tweet from Panaccio
JUst finished a chat … this puck-over-line and you cant see it when you know it’s over the line … if you cant see God, does he exist?
haha, oh man, he is hilarious!
A lot of people say no to that…
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by Geoff Detweiler on Feb 10, 2010 8:16 PM EST up reply actions
I meant it more if a making-fun kind of way. He is ridiculous and mostly just annoying. I just thought this was hilarious. Who says that? lol
by Mitchell Green on Feb 10, 2010 8:18 PM EST up reply actions
Maybe the people in the war room are atheist.
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by Travis Hughes on Feb 10, 2010 8:16 PM EST up reply actions
I doubt it…. I mean if working for Bettman is some definition of being in hell, you’d have to believe hell exists, and atheists don’t…
by DragonGirl0583 on Feb 10, 2010 8:18 PM EST up reply actions
how do we know their really is a war room?
It never seems to answer my prayrs
by Prometheus74 on Feb 10, 2010 8:18 PM EST up reply actions
Flyers just aren’t winning the board battles.
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by Geoff Detweiler on Feb 10, 2010 8:15 PM EST reply actions
so the red wings run a “third man high”…..we basically run a “third man high” so what’s the hesitation
Seravalli said it’s because Lavy doesn’t know who to take out of the lineup.
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by Geoff Detweiler on Feb 10, 2010 8:31 PM EST up reply actions
wow-first time actually saw that called
Eat what the monkey eats, then eat the monkey. -U.S. Navy survival guidance
Brodeur is getting lucky. And not in the with his sister-in-law kinda way.
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got me excited
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by CoburnsCuddleBuddy on Feb 10, 2010 8:21 PM EST up reply actions
Hah, look at Cote not watching the game.
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Shouldn’t Cote be watching the game? Or, well, I guess it doesn’t really matter for him at this point, does it?
He probably forgets what hockey is at this point.
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by Travis Hughes on Feb 10, 2010 8:22 PM EST up reply actions
How many scratches in a row is this, 23 or something?
by DragonGirl0583 on Feb 10, 2010 8:22 PM EST up reply actions
Good call
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by Travis Hughes on Feb 10, 2010 8:23 PM EST up reply actions
COTE=when he is not getting scratched he is getting punched in the face
by Prometheus74 on Feb 10, 2010 8:24 PM EST up reply actions
He’s just on the payroll for PR purposes i guess
by DragonGirl0583 on Feb 10, 2010 8:25 PM EST up reply actions
I would think he’s good enough at that already.
by DragonGirl0583 on Feb 10, 2010 8:23 PM EST up reply actions
Really wasn’t as bad as it looks. Their first goal was complete crap.
by Mitchell Green on Feb 10, 2010 8:24 PM EST up reply actions
whats the deal with the Hartnell goal, I hear it was another bullshit call by the “war room”
"NO HONOR"
Was that a knock against us? Or just general commentary?
by DragonGirl0583 on Feb 10, 2010 8:27 PM EST up reply actions
Elaborate, please
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by Travis Hughes on Feb 10, 2010 8:28 PM EST up reply actions
I just found the guy eating the pizza really humorous.
I’m struggling to convey what I mean, but I think it boils down to your sense of self worth. You all seem to feel a lot better about yourself than we Kiwi’s do.
We do kick ass, yes
/sarcasm kinda
//also has literal meaning
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by Travis Hughes on Feb 10, 2010 8:32 PM EST up reply actions
Well you’re literal meaning there is emphasized by the fact that we’re (mostly) Philadelphians, too :)
by DragonGirl0583 on Feb 10, 2010 8:34 PM EST up reply actions
I think Philadelphians are a pretty self-deprecating bunch, actually
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by Travis Hughes on Feb 10, 2010 8:35 PM EST up reply actions
Hehe, I meant the physical literal meaning of what you said.
by DragonGirl0583 on Feb 10, 2010 8:37 PM EST up reply actions
hahaha, yes.
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by Travis Hughes on Feb 10, 2010 8:38 PM EST up reply actions
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tall_poppy_syndrome
This kinda sums up NZ. Do well and you get cut down.
You’d like PA Dutch country, then. Same way of life.
"Tortorella’s got it all wrong ... Gaborik shouldn’t be messing with our skilled player." -Peter Luuko
I hated it. My Grandmother would never give compliments, because even the more innocent “Atta girl” would give me a “big head” in her opinion. She was old school PA Dutch, one room schoolhouse and all.
"Tortorella’s got it all wrong ... Gaborik shouldn’t be messing with our skilled player." -Peter Luuko
Yeah it sucks. I try to do the best in everything I do whether it be school or sport or work. Often with little reward other than self-satisfaction.
You guys are making me feel guilty for not having to grow up that way
by DragonGirl0583 on Feb 10, 2010 8:49 PM EST up reply actions
Well, I grew up in a very, very crazy family. But in school and stuff, we sort of had the reverse of your Tall Poppy Syndrome…. people around you were getting showered with praise, and a lot of people did everything they could to try to keep up and get attention and complements themselves. Would that be Short Poppy Syndrome then, I guess?
by DragonGirl0583 on Feb 10, 2010 8:55 PM EST up reply actions
I guess thats why USA is the “best country in the world”. Everyone is trying to do well and best each other
But it can be equally depressing if you can’t manage to keep up
by DragonGirl0583 on Feb 10, 2010 9:02 PM EST up reply actions
I don’t think everybody would agree that we’re the best country in the world. But that’s a whole ’nother discussion and politics should be left out here.
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by Travis Hughes on Feb 10, 2010 9:04 PM EST up reply actions
Don’t. It’s not good, but I do admit it’s helpful in the workplace because my company is very unappreciative of most employee’s work and because of my upbringing it doesn’t bother me like it does other people.
"Tortorella’s got it all wrong ... Gaborik shouldn’t be messing with our skilled player." -Peter Luuko
I guess so…. But I do harbor a deep-seeded jealousy of people who grow up in countries where a lot of people speak more than one language and can switch effortlessly between them. I’ve always wanted to be able to do that
by DragonGirl0583 on Feb 10, 2010 8:34 PM EST up reply actions
I was supposed to to go to Montreal this coming weekend (thankfully not happening, since we’re snowed in); talk about a place where you’re surrounded by people who are bilingual… I think it was the first time I realized how absolutely awful my high school language courses were
by DragonGirl0583 on Feb 10, 2010 8:56 PM EST up reply actions
Hah…almost a quarter of Florida doesn’t speak English at home. We’ve got Spanish, French, Creole, German, Italian, Portuguese, Tagalog, Chinese, Arabic, Greek, Vietnamese, Russian, Polish, Yiddish, Korean, and Hebrew. It’s not like Quebec, where French is the primary language, but there are parts of downtown Orlando where you’ll pretty much only hear Vietnamese on the streets, and some districts where the billboards are all in Spanish.
"When you make your final stand
I'll be right there
I'll never leave
And all I ask of you is
Believe"
I completely believe you about Florida. I’m from the farm country part of south jersey, the percentage of people in my area who are migrant workers is enormous, so you have the parents who don’t speak any English at all, and the kids who become bilingual.
But the thing that originally got me in Montreal is how fast they can switch! Your waitress is going along in rapid fire French, and then you politely ask them to switch, and suddenly they’re speaking perfect English with no French accent at all, sometimes changing in midsentence. Many of the people I grew up with that are bilingual have trouble with one of the two languages, usually whichever one they learn second. I think that it’s because in a lot of the schools there (I know it’s not all of them) you actually learn both languages all the way through, instead of the people I grew up with where you speak one at home and one in school. There are definitely sections of South Jersey where Spanish is the dominant language because you have an enclave of immigrants from Puerto Rico and Mexico.
by DragonGirl0583 on Feb 11, 2010 3:37 PM EST up reply actions
A lot of it’s age. We (meaning the US) don’t usually teach a foreign language until high school, by which point the language centers of the brain are fairly well set in their ways. It’s far easier to learn a foreign language and learn it without a significant accent if you start in elementary school.
"When you make your final stand
I'll be right there
I'll never leave
And all I ask of you is
Believe"
This is an obligatory response
"In the beginning the Universe was created.
This has made a lot of people very angry and been widely regarded as a bad move."
Haha…I know. I take no offense to it whatsoever, and I know you aren’t trying to be derogatory. But still – it’s an opening for me to post that gif.
"In the beginning the Universe was created.
This has made a lot of people very angry and been widely regarded as a bad move."
I think I’m good for a laugh sometimes…
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by Travis Hughes on Feb 10, 2010 8:28 PM EST up reply actions
WOW! CARTER!
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FULTON REED SCORES!
Some think too much, then come too soon
I just curse the sun, so I can howl at the moon
I’m glad we’ve kept that nickname
TAKE THE FALL, ACT HURT, GET INDIGNANT
by CoburnsCuddleBuddy on Feb 10, 2010 8:28 PM EST up reply actions
Devils organization are allowing people to filter down to the lower bowl for braving the snow. I’m still confused why they don’t do this for all their home games.
"In the beginning the Universe was created.
This has made a lot of people very angry and been widely regarded as a bad move."
by IcersGuy on Feb 10, 2010 8:29 PM EST reply actions 1 recs
I love this team. When Richie and Carter are showing emotion like this after their goals this team is soooo fun
by orangeandblack20 on Feb 10, 2010 8:33 PM EST reply actions
gagne has no confidence right now
Eat what the monkey eats, then eat the monkey. -U.S. Navy survival guidance
he’ll have a good year next year….contract year
by Crosby sucks on Feb 10, 2010 8:44 PM EST up reply actions
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d1PNWkASfWk
Josh Gorges, puck off the head
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maybe Japanese baseball players have a skull thick enough for hockey
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lrFAdS9zuEM&NR=1
Hey, hockey’s back on.
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This camera guy moves the camera way too fast through the neutral zone. Anybody else noticing that?
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He just moves the camera quickly everywhere. Not a fan.
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by Geoff Detweiler on Feb 10, 2010 9:00 PM EST up reply actions
Oh, and he’s a big fan of the zoom. It gives me a headache.
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by Geoff Detweiler on Feb 10, 2010 9:00 PM EST up reply actions
Maybe the real guy got snowed in and we got stuck with the backup?
by DragonGirl0583 on Feb 10, 2010 9:01 PM EST up reply actions
Jersey foul. Pun intended.
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by Travis Hughes on Feb 10, 2010 9:00 PM EST up reply actions
I think that made it onto Puck Daddy’s Jersey Fouls actually
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by Geoff Detweiler on Feb 10, 2010 9:00 PM EST up reply actions
Allowing people to come down to the lower bowl has resulted in WAY too many fans trying to draw attention to themselves on TV.
PUT YOUR HAND DOWN. Hands are for closers only.
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by Geoff Detweiler on Feb 10, 2010 9:03 PM EST reply actions
The Devils are going to score eventually. The Flyers can’t move the puck up at all this period.
Proudly supporting a Flyers team with "no honor".
They are fine. Have some damn confidence
by orangeandblack20 on Feb 10, 2010 9:07 PM EST up reply actions
Carter’s having a solid game.
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When did it get so bad, that a solid game from Carter needed to get a +1? Not knocking on you, more Carter.
"NO HONOR"
He’s playing great. Throwin the body. Shooting well. Give him a break, he’s playing well.
by orangeandblack20 on Feb 10, 2010 9:08 PM EST up reply actions
The Olympic news might be a confidence booster.
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by Travis Hughes on Feb 10, 2010 9:08 PM EST up reply actions
You think the Devils crowd is bad tonight?
Have a look at the Nets…
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Wow. Why would those people show up?
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by Geoff Detweiler on Feb 10, 2010 9:10 PM EST up reply actions
Have they made it to 5 wins yet? And as you said earlier, there’s no train to their arena.
by DragonGirl0583 on Feb 10, 2010 9:10 PM EST up reply actions
I did a report last year, If you take away LAL, Phoenix, and Boston, the NBA has the worst attendance of all 4 major sports.
"NO HONOR"
But the last time I looked at the standings, The Sizers were 16 and 31 and the Nets were 4 and 43 and the Nets had better attendance!
by DragonGirl0583 on Feb 10, 2010 9:12 PM EST up reply actions
Even post-Answer?
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by Geoff Detweiler on Feb 10, 2010 9:12 PM EST up reply actions
As of today, the Sixers have squeaked ahead of them in raw numbers but are behind them in percentage of arena capacity.
by DragonGirl0583 on Feb 10, 2010 9:13 PM EST up reply actions
no, I just took away the top 3 attendance teams. nobody follows basketball outside of those 3 markets. Like, of all the people you know, how many of them are Lakers or Boston fans?
"NO HONOR"
Wait, are you saying Memphis and Oklahoma City aren’t rabid fan bases?
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by Geoff Detweiler on Feb 10, 2010 9:15 PM EST up reply actions
But ESPN is behind it. So, it must be a real sport.
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by Geoff Detweiler on Feb 10, 2010 9:12 PM EST up reply actions
They’re behind NASCAR, too. Just sayin’.
"Tortorella’s got it all wrong ... Gaborik shouldn’t be messing with our skilled player." -Peter Luuko
After they tried to kill it.
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by Geoff Detweiler on Feb 10, 2010 9:15 PM EST up reply actions
I’m sorry, I hate NASCAR. I know millions of people love it, but I just don’t consider it a sport and it’s an enormous waste of fossil fuels. I know the drivers are athletes and have to have incredible endurance, but its allure just escapes me.
"Tortorella’s got it all wrong ... Gaborik shouldn’t be messing with our skilled player." -Peter Luuko
I’m not a fan of NASCAR but we have a Sprint Car track where I live and going there and watching the race is completely different than watching a race on TV. It’s a huge rush.
I’ve been to the Pocono 500 Raceway. They are better in person, true, but still not my cup of tea.
"Tortorella’s got it all wrong ... Gaborik shouldn’t be messing with our skilled player." -Peter Luuko
Truth be told
Pocono is an insanely boring racetrack to see a race at. I’ve been a NASCAR fan for years, and like Geoff, I was much more interested years ago than I am now. I can see both sides of the aisle here – yes, it has it’s exciting moments, but there’s a huge lull in the middle.
I think one of the sad things is how fans dismiss the sport as “too simple” – which really can be said of any sport. It’s a matter of being interested and getting to know the finer details of the sport (NASCAR included) where you find a lot more going on than what’s on the surface. After all, hockey is more than just 5 guys trying to beat each other up and put a small puck in a net.
(Note: It doesn’t take much for me to be a fan of a sport. I enjoy watching everything from the major four, to NASCAR, to futbol and golf, to gymnastics and other Olympic sports. I’m just an addict like that.)
"In the beginning the Universe was created.
This has made a lot of people very angry and been widely regarded as a bad move."
I think one of the sad things is how fans dismiss the sport as "too simple" – which really can be said of any sport. It’s a matter of being interested and getting to know the finer details of the sport (NASCAR included) where you find a lot more going on than what’s on the surface.
This is exactly it.
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by Geoff Detweiler on Feb 10, 2010 9:34 PM EST up reply actions
haha, I’m not trying to defend it.
I used to watch it, but ever since Earnhardt died, it has become such a commercialized “sport” that is nothing like it used to be. I used to be interested. Now, I’m not at all. Give me Rusty, Earnhardt, Labonte, and Jarrett over Johnson, Gordon, Stewart, Hamlin, etc. any day.
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by Geoff Detweiler on Feb 10, 2010 9:21 PM EST up reply actions
not to be rude and all, but Earnhardt dying has made the sport 10x bigger. after his death, thats when everyone seemed to have jumped on the sport.
"NO HONOR"
Oh, certainly. But bigger is not better in this case, IMO.
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by Geoff Detweiler on Feb 10, 2010 9:25 PM EST up reply actions
WRC > F1 Super GT > Indycar > NASCAR
Oh, This is bound to be good
You can't, but you thought that You could
F1 super GT is actually fun to watch, but thats because ive been playing Grand Turismo all my life.
"NO HONOR"
Hell yeah, I’m waiting my balls off for 5. Forza 3 is satisfying me until then.
Oh, This is bound to be good
You can't, but you thought that You could
haha I get so pissed of in Forza, but I do that with all sports games. I personally need FFXIII to come out soon. No lie, I watch the trailer almost every day since january haha.
"NO HONOR"
haha, I would have, but then they said xbox would get it so I didn’t feel the need to spend the $$$ for a ps3. FFXIV might be a ps3 exclusive, so that might break me.
"NO HONOR"
I haven’t decided if I am going to get that at launch. More than likely I’ll pick it up later on because God of War is coming out around that time…
Oh, This is bound to be good
You can't, but you thought that You could
Also a great game(or should be). But Zelda and Final Fantasy are the reason I play video games. I’ve played every game ever by square, and with little disappointment. They are such a great company.
"NO HONOR"
Hey it’s okay to have a favorite line, I’m one of those crazy people that owns every zelda ever, so I’m with you
by DragonGirl0583 on Feb 10, 2010 9:46 PM EST up reply actions
hey, I got every LoZ game too, and Pokemon. basically Nintendo has a hold around me haha.
"NO HONOR"
Every Zelda and every Kingdom Hearts, I’m a dork.
by DragonGirl0583 on Feb 10, 2010 9:49 PM EST up reply actions
guy 1: “hey, lets all turn left.”
guy 2: “then what?”
guy 1: “we’ll turn left again.”
guy 2: “sweet. yee haa”
"NO HONOR"
How that gets better ratings than well, almost everything else, I’ll never understand
by DragonGirl0583 on Feb 10, 2010 9:18 PM EST up reply actions
It’s because there’s only one event a week. If every hockey team played in the same venue once a week, it’d get damn good ratings too.
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by Travis Hughes on Feb 10, 2010 9:19 PM EST up reply actions
If you include the Canadians in the ratings, I’ll go with you, but if they’re ratings are excluded, it’s probably not close. Nascar ratings are insanely good
by DragonGirl0583 on Feb 10, 2010 9:21 PM EST up reply actions
Nice clear by Coburn.
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I thought they weren’t gonna call that against Kimmo for a second there. Whew.
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Attendance: 5,580 according to ILWT.
Given the storm, that’s more people than I thought would show up to this game.
Proudly supporting a Flyers team with "no honor".
Yep, that’s not terrible considering.
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by Travis Hughes on Feb 10, 2010 9:15 PM EST up reply actions
Thats no bad at all considering that is probably pretty close to their normal attendance, right?
by Mitchell Green on Feb 10, 2010 9:16 PM EST up reply actions
Krajicek moves so well.
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Yeah, SanFilippo mentioned this during the radio show.
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by Geoff Detweiler on Feb 10, 2010 9:22 PM EST up reply actions
Panaccio doesn’t know how to use Twitter, replies and stuff. So it just looks like he’s talking to himself.
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by Travis Hughes on Feb 10, 2010 9:23 PM EST up reply actions
love that site…..creepy yet funny. unlike garfield
Eat what the monkey eats, then eat the monkey. -U.S. Navy survival guidance
Garfield Minus Garfield is pure gold
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by Travis Hughes on Feb 10, 2010 9:26 PM EST up reply actions
Rangers are losing but Montreal is up 3 on the Caps at the 2nd intermission
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Montreal is right near us in the standings though, right? Part of me wants to see the Caps streak broken, but not at the expense of our placement…
by DragonGirl0583 on Feb 10, 2010 9:29 PM EST up reply actions
Yeah we want the Caps to win. MTL is a point ahead of us right now.
Well, tied with the one point we got in OT here
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by Travis Hughes on Feb 10, 2010 9:31 PM EST up reply actions
how much of the 40 did they already use?
"NO HONOR"
by JpH89 on Feb 10, 2010 9:26 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Very nice
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by Geoff Detweiler on Feb 10, 2010 9:27 PM EST up reply actions
I think there’s enough left in the 40 allotment to cover the rest of regulation and the 5 min OT if applicable… but that has to assume that 40 was actually available today and we didn’t get shortchanged at the pump
by DragonGirl0583 on Feb 10, 2010 9:27 PM EST up reply actions
Seems like it’s been awhile since we’ve had an OT game
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That wasn’t a penalty because…. We wear orange and black. They were quick to call a penalty on us in Edmingtoon with just as much time left.
by orangeandblack20 on Feb 10, 2010 9:29 PM EST reply actions
So will they finish it in OT? Or do we just hand them the other point.
Er, I mean have a shootout. Yeah, that’s what I meant.
I must have missed those games. Every time I see a shootout, they lose.
by StarbladeMKIII on Feb 10, 2010 9:31 PM EST up reply actions
But that wasn’t recently, that was separated from this slump of not being able to finish
by DragonGirl0583 on Feb 10, 2010 9:32 PM EST up reply actions
TOO MUCH PASSING
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Notice how Giroux wasn’t expecting that pass from Hartnell? Yet he STILL had his stick on the ice and collected it anyway? Why doesn’t everybody do that??
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by Geoff Detweiler on Feb 10, 2010 9:33 PM EST reply actions
Haha, I scream about fundamentals so much, I know
by DragonGirl0583 on Feb 10, 2010 9:34 PM EST up reply actions
Haha, this is the only reason my gf knows who Ryan Parent is. When he came up and played in the playoffs two years ago, I kept screaming about why everybody couldn’t be more like him. Kid always had his head on a swivel.
I love fundamentals.
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by Geoff Detweiler on Feb 10, 2010 9:35 PM EST up reply actions
I was at the last Phantoms game at the Spectrum, and I was yelling my head off about it. One of the Dmen that night was getting his stick down on the ice perfectly to block passes and doing it consistently every time, and I was like “See, why can’t everybody do that right! Do you know how many NHL players can’t do that?”
by DragonGirl0583 on Feb 10, 2010 9:38 PM EST up reply actions
haha exactly! but the people we’re with look at us like we’re crazy. We’re not crazy!
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by Geoff Detweiler on Feb 10, 2010 9:39 PM EST up reply actions
I was with one other hockey person, so one out of 4 companions got it. The other 3 were getting a lecture, mostly, haha
by DragonGirl0583 on Feb 10, 2010 9:42 PM EST up reply actions
I LOVE YOU SIMON GAGNE!
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WHAT A GOAL, OH MAN
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We will not go quietly into the night! We will not go down without a fight!
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by Geoff Detweiler on Feb 10, 2010 9:36 PM EST up reply actions
I had resigned myself to hoping for a spark after taking the break, but I’ll take it 3 games early
by DragonGirl0583 on Feb 10, 2010 9:36 PM EST up reply actions
Love that movie
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by Travis Hughes on Feb 10, 2010 9:36 PM EST up reply actions
haha, I love every Will Smith movie (that I’ve seen). He’s just an incredible actor.
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by Geoff Detweiler on Feb 10, 2010 9:38 PM EST up reply actions
http://helloboysiamback.ytmnd.com/
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by Travis Hughes on Feb 10, 2010 9:38 PM EST up reply actions
Am I the only one upset that we let the devils get 1 point out of this? Especially because of the hartnell no goal.
I was happy with 1 point, personally. 2 is fantastic.
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by Geoff Detweiler on Feb 10, 2010 9:37 PM EST up reply actions
players of then game
3. carter
2. leighton
1. gagne
Eat what the monkey eats, then eat the monkey. -U.S. Navy survival guidance
I’m still mad Kimmo didn’t get a star on Monday, I’ll be equally mad if Gags missing out on one tonight. That OT was pure hard work and persistence
by DragonGirl0583 on Feb 10, 2010 9:40 PM EST up reply actions
Thank You Flyers!
Wow, what a great game. I could not watch the 76ers game and you made it an enjoyable night after all. Wow!
Thank you!!!!!
Can’t post here. must listen to game on WIP and then post when game is over
TAKE THE FALL, ACT HURT, GET INDIGNANT
by CoburnsCuddleBuddy on Feb 10, 2010 9:37 PM EST reply actions
http://i112.photobucket.com/albums/n199/oldskoolxwpfan/airplane-lloyd-bridges-sniff-glue.jpg
Guess i picked the wrong day to stop sniffing glue
what a game
Do you like movies about gladiators?
Oh, This is bound to be good
You can't, but you thought that You could
Time to take both from the Frenchies. And then Olympics
TAKE THE FALL, ACT HURT, GET INDIGNANT
by CoburnsCuddleBuddy on Feb 10, 2010 9:41 PM EST reply actions
If the Canadiens are smacking the Caps around tonight, the switch needs to be at 10, not 2 on Friday.
mikefive, doubleh, try to bring some good karma along with you or something
by DragonGirl0583 on Feb 10, 2010 9:44 PM EST up reply actions
My only game this year was the 8-2 Caps disaster, so I’m not good luck either. I guess it’s good I’m not going on Saturday to bring them bad luck.
Maybe doubleh can bring some good luck with her? Or if anybody else is going?
by DragonGirl0583 on Feb 10, 2010 9:48 PM EST up reply actions
I know. And we didn’t leave early either, we stayed the whole time because I was too shocked to get up and leave.
by DragonGirl0583 on Feb 10, 2010 9:59 PM EST up reply actions
Every Flyers game I have ever been to has been a win, including Tampa playoff game. But I’m lucky if I get to one game a year.
"Tortorella’s got it all wrong ... Gaborik shouldn’t be messing with our skilled player." -Peter Luuko
Alrighty, we’re counting on you and your hubby
by DragonGirl0583 on Feb 10, 2010 10:10 PM EST up reply actions
We’re taking the little one, too (in the picture). He loves going to the game because 1) crab fries, 2) lights/music, 3) the fast action. In that order. He doesn’t understand the game yet, but you have to start somewhere. He will ask us: “Who are the good guys and who are the bad guys?” He is a “good guy” only supporter. I love how children’s minds work; everything is black and white.
"Tortorella’s got it all wrong ... Gaborik shouldn’t be messing with our skilled player." -Peter Luuko
That’s okay, convert him early. My parents did it to me
by DragonGirl0583 on Feb 10, 2010 10:15 PM EST up reply actions
It’s called good parenting, in my book anyway. A few years ago, we all went down to CBP. There stood a family of four: mom, day, 2 boys. Mom, dad, one boy in Phillies gear head to toe. Other boy: Met’s gear. I pointed to the kid and told Lucas: “He’s the bad apple in the family and likely always in trouble. Don’t be that kid.”
"Tortorella’s got it all wrong ... Gaborik shouldn’t be messing with our skilled player." -Peter Luuko
That’s a good order, I think. Love crab fries.
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by Travis Hughes on Feb 10, 2010 10:15 PM EST up reply actions
Getting 4 points against the Devils was 4 more than I really expected after the Edmonton and Minnesota games.
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Heeere we go again!
Don’t get too excited everyone. The Devils have been struggling of late. We STILL can’t beat a real NHL team.
Do you see what happens when you find a stranger in the Alps?
Well they didn’t break out of their struggles against us. I’ll take that as a big win and a big confidence boost.
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I really wouldn’t mind playing the Devils in the playoffs.
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Let’s not start this. I’m pretty sure we were all thrilled to be facing Deslauriers, and then Khudobin…
Just the way we’ve played them all year. We play them tough every time (with the exception of that one terrible game) and we seem to be in their heads.
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by Travis Hughes on Feb 10, 2010 9:53 PM EST up reply actions
Not to mention that Marty is gonna be extremely overworked come playoff time.
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by Travis Hughes on Feb 10, 2010 9:54 PM EST up reply actions
Lets not get ahead of ourselves… we’re in enough trouble already
by DragonGirl0583 on Feb 10, 2010 9:51 PM EST up reply actions
It is kind of funny that we can beat good goalies and can’t beat bad ones…
by DragonGirl0583 on Feb 10, 2010 9:53 PM EST up reply actions
I wouldn’t mind that either at this point, but DragonGirl is right, let’s not get ahead of ourselves. The only team that I absolutely do not want to play is Washington because they will kick our ass. For some reason, playing Pittsburgh would not completely scare me. I think we’re due for something against them.
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For what it's worth...
… if we stick to the 93-points-for-the-playoffs formula, we need 30 in 24 games. That means we have to go 15-9 down the stretch, which is doable (I hope).
Do you see what happens when you find a stranger in the Alps?
Mirtle is predicting you only need 87 points in the east this year, so he has us listed as needed to 12-12 after tonight
by DragonGirl0583 on Feb 10, 2010 9:54 PM EST up reply actions
Wow, the Caps are coming back on MTL…
5-4 now, 10 minutes left
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Does anyone else go over to In Lou We Trust and read the posts? It’s very entertaining. One of the things I like about this group is, for the most part, everyone is civil, even about the opposition. Is it just the Flyers that bring out the hate in others?
I think that’s accurate.
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by Travis Hughes on Feb 10, 2010 9:57 PM EST up reply actions
It’s just silly. I love the Flyers to death, but I try to always look at things through objective eyes. They don’t even pretend. The administrator seems alright, but he even toes the line it seems, particularily about how we Flyer fans love to whine.
It’s always ironic when people whine about people whining.
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by Travis Hughes on Feb 10, 2010 10:01 PM EST up reply actions
You know, as soon as I hit post I realized that, but unfortunately I don’t know how to get rid of posts. But if I didn’t whine about his whining, how would we know about his whining? (sigh)
No, I wasn’t saying you were whining about their whining about us whining. I was saying that it’s rather ridiculous that they whine about us whining (especially because I don’t think we do too much whining, at least not on this site).
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by Travis Hughes on Feb 10, 2010 10:06 PM EST up reply actions
I generally find we’re a relatively honest fanbase most of the time… If our guy does something really stupid, we’ll usually say call them out ourselves. When we boo our own players, most of the time it’s a) letting them know we care b) trying to get through to them. I mean we have all the problem people that other fanbases have, but I feel like even our announcers usually have no problem going “Now why the heck did he do that, that was dumb” about our own players
by DragonGirl0583 on Feb 10, 2010 10:04 PM EST up reply actions
With the exception of Coatsey. I don’t think I’ve ever heard him utter a negative word about a Flyer.
I’ll go with you there. But JJ has called people out before, so have Clement and Jonesy.
by DragonGirl0583 on Feb 10, 2010 10:11 PM EST up reply actions
Yeah, he did play-by-play for the Utica Devils. He was also a Rangers fan growing up. So how he managed to put all that aside and become a Flyers fan is beyond me.
by Ben Feldman on Feb 10, 2010 10:14 PM EST up reply actions
Look at this: from their fanposts.
http://www.inlouwetrust.com/2010/2/6/1298459/devils-fan-guide-rivals
I grew up my whole life outside of McGuire-Ft. Dix, which is considered a part of the Philadelphia area and can only get Philly channels. The thought of Flyers fans living in New Jersey irks me a lot because I feel that the Devils are New Jersey and that if they love the Flyers so much they should pack up and move to Pennsylvania.
The guy who wrote this is a complete tool. I will not be civil about this.
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by Travis Hughes on Feb 10, 2010 9:58 PM EST up reply actions
New Jersey exists because of the outflow from Philadelphia and New York City. That is the only reason for their existence
TAKE THE FALL, ACT HURT, GET INDIGNANT
by CoburnsCuddleBuddy on Feb 10, 2010 9:59 PM EST up reply actions
Well, that’s not accurate when you’re talking about along the shore, but yes.
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by Travis Hughes on Feb 10, 2010 10:00 PM EST up reply actions
That’s a little harsh. If that’s how you feel about us, stay off our beaches…
by DragonGirl0583 on Feb 10, 2010 10:01 PM EST up reply actions
And why the hell would we root for some transplant team from Colorado that’s…
A) a two or three hour drive away
B) not on our television or in our papers
Not to mention it would require us (or our parents) to have dropped the original allegiance to the Flyers for them.
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by Travis Hughes on Feb 10, 2010 10:05 PM EST up reply actions
Let’s not forget they came through Kansas City on their way here, too!
by DragonGirl0583 on Feb 10, 2010 10:06 PM EST up reply actions
Yes it was.
TAKE THE FALL, ACT HURT, GET INDIGNANT
by CoburnsCuddleBuddy on Feb 10, 2010 10:03 PM EST up reply actions
There is one thing about NJ from pre-13-colonies… it used to be two colonies, east jersey and west jersey. I wouldn’t mind being two seperate states
by DragonGirl0583 on Feb 10, 2010 10:08 PM EST up reply actions
For reference, it wasn’t like a line down the center, it was diagonal… west jersey was what we know as South jersey (Burlington, camden, gloucester counties, Atlantic City, cape May), East Jersey was like Toms river and north Jersey
by DragonGirl0583 on Feb 10, 2010 10:09 PM EST up reply actions
Actually, if you’ve ever noticed that Burlington county is shaped funny and goes across the state as a weird diagonal, it’s because that was the original line…
by DragonGirl0583 on Feb 10, 2010 10:14 PM EST up reply actions
Oh, I didn’t know that. Interesting.
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by Travis Hughes on Feb 10, 2010 10:16 PM EST up reply actions
This is dependent on me correctly remembering 8th grade history class, though I may have a few details screwy
by DragonGirl0583 on Feb 10, 2010 10:17 PM EST up reply actions
I was a little off, at the top part, but I did remember the Burlington county thing right….Border Between East and West Jersey
by DragonGirl0583 on Feb 10, 2010 10:19 PM EST up reply actions
For the record guys, I’m sorry I turned the game thread into a history lecture, haha
by DragonGirl0583 on Feb 10, 2010 10:37 PM EST up reply actions
haha, I love this stuff, I don’t mind at all.
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by Travis Hughes on Feb 10, 2010 10:38 PM EST up reply actions
Same here. I may be from PA, I love learning about New Jersey like this.
Proudly supporting a Flyers team with "no honor".
We really are a fascinating state. And the Southern part is beautiful. It’s up North that gives us a bad name, part of the reason we’d love to shed it.
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by Travis Hughes on Feb 10, 2010 10:41 PM EST up reply actions
The upper west part isn’t so bad…. If I can cut off Seaside, Edison, and Newark, I’m okay with Phillipsburg and the water gap staying on my side of the line, like the original boundary was drawn.
by DragonGirl0583 on Feb 10, 2010 10:42 PM EST up reply actions
Yeah, I’m fine with that too. That’s what I mean by North Jersey, generally. The whole New York area metropolis.
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by Travis Hughes on Feb 10, 2010 10:44 PM EST up reply actions
How many states can there really be that argue over whether we should be separated into 2 pieces of 3? I’ve heard the debate over the existence of “Central Jersey” get heated….
But yes, I’d like to be rid of them. I do not have anything that remotely resembles a North “Joisey” accent (I have a little bit of a Piney accent, if anything), but I hate going places and having people assume I talk like the northerners!
by DragonGirl0583 on Feb 10, 2010 10:45 PM EST up reply actions
I know one state that still wants to secede…Texas.
"Tortorella’s got it all wrong ... Gaborik shouldn’t be messing with our skilled player." -Peter Luuko
My accent comes out when I get mad. I get made fun of for it. It’s actually closer to Philly, even though I live in the Pines.
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by Travis Hughes on Feb 10, 2010 10:52 PM EST up reply actions
Mine’s in the middle, I think. But sometimes when you travel to other US cities and people find out you’re from Jersey they start talking in these mock-Sopranos accents and making fun of the way people in “Joisey” talk… as I stand there and say things like “yous guys”, “wudder”, and “y’all”, their comparisons don’t work out too well
by DragonGirl0583 on Feb 10, 2010 10:56 PM EST up reply actions
haha, yes. I hate when people get that impression of us.
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by Travis Hughes on Feb 10, 2010 10:57 PM EST up reply actions
I’ve been to the southern part a few times and it is beautiful down there, but everytime I go to New York and have to go by Newark, and I instantly understand why Southern Jersey wants to be its own state.
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The entire Turnpike corridor up there is just terrible. It’s easy to see how people think the state is dirty when that’s what they get to see.
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by Travis Hughes on Feb 10, 2010 10:56 PM EST up reply actions
I’m not going there, it’ll be nastier than the rants that could get left on the BSH radio voicemail box.
by DragonGirl0583 on Feb 10, 2010 11:04 PM EST up reply actions
haha, aren’t the people on Jersey Shore all from Rhode Island or something? None of them are even from here.
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by Travis Hughes on Feb 10, 2010 11:05 PM EST up reply actions
Exactly. I’ll just say there’s a reason that show is filmed in Seaside and it’s the same reason I don’t go within 20 miles of Seaside. Ick.
by DragonGirl0583 on Feb 10, 2010 11:10 PM EST up reply actions
I thought most of them were from the New York area.
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Might be a mix, I know a few are Rhody’s though
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by Travis Hughes on Feb 10, 2010 11:16 PM EST up reply actions
actually it does break like that culturally but that’s just a cursory observation, i don’t know how true it is from a New Jersian standpoint
Do you have any idea how many times the 8 counties that make up South Jersey have attempted to cast a ballot to become a separate state? It’s happened several times, it kind of comes in waves
by DragonGirl0583 on Feb 10, 2010 10:13 PM EST up reply actions
I wouldn’t mind it one bit. State politicians have no interest in us except for Atlantic City.
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by Travis Hughes on Feb 10, 2010 10:13 PM EST up reply actions
I was stalking there and reading some comments over there during the game and one thing that struck me was how one commenter blasted us for thinking that the Hartnell no goal was indeed a goal when half of their blog thought it might have been in. It’s just funny how some of them despise us so much that they would never be willing to give the Flyers credit for anything.
Proudly supporting a Flyers team with "no honor".
But if they move to Pennsylvania, then what do they do? We have two teams. Do they have to root for both?
But the Flyers don’t call themselves Pennsylvania’s team nor are we particularly upset that another team has a fanbase in our state. At least I’m not. And that’s the Devils big thing. They are jealous and upset that the Rangers and the Flyers have a presence in “their state”.
Proudly supporting a Flyers team with "no honor".
Except that half of their state roots for the Rangers, so it’s hardly “Devils are New Jersey.” South Jersey also has quite a few Flyers fans because S Jersey was/is primarily Philly sports. So that post is not only bitter, it’s bullshit.
"Tortorella’s got it all wrong ... Gaborik shouldn’t be messing with our skilled player." -Peter Luuko
We’re in the Philadelphia market. All the way down to Cape May, all Philadelphia media. No Devils coverage at all. It would be a chore to root for them, if you’re just arguing logistics.
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by Travis Hughes on Feb 10, 2010 10:15 PM EST up reply actions
I just saw the post you left for that guy. I also noticed he’s a New England Patriots fan. Where do you have to live to qualify for that?
It has nothing to do with where you live I guess, that just grants him annoying frontrunning status….
by DragonGirl0583 on Feb 10, 2010 10:31 PM EST up reply actions
annoying frontrunner*, Im sorry my typing is terrible today
by DragonGirl0583 on Feb 10, 2010 10:32 PM EST up reply actions
Well, he’s a Mets fan too…. hahaha
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by Travis Hughes on Feb 10, 2010 10:36 PM EST up reply actions
It’s called “not having the stones to root for the Giants or Eagles,” so he roots for the team that won 3 championships in a single decade. Takes guts going out on a limb like that. Just wait until the Pats go back into the tank for 30 more years. Oh, well, he’ll aways have the aughts to look back on fondly in the old age home.
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I don’t know if you saw it yet or not, Travis, but that guy that you replied to and the blog editor replied to your comment over there. They both wrote novels so I won’t quote them, but apparently they think the Flyers don’t reach out to New Jersey and the Devils do……
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that’s funny. I’ll go respond.
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by Travis Hughes on Feb 10, 2010 11:31 PM EST up reply actions
I wrote a novel myself, jeez.
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by Travis Hughes on Feb 10, 2010 11:50 PM EST up reply actions
inlouwetrust.com
sidebar, fanpost about ‘rivals’
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by Travis Hughes on Feb 11, 2010 12:05 AM EST up reply actions
I’m not sure whether a standing O or a high five is appropriate here, but well said on the second reply! The idea of a Devil entering Cumberland, Salem, or Cape May counties is downright laughable. They might pretend they go to Atlantic City or Camden, but I’d be surprised if they know how to find the other counties on the map.
by DragonGirl0583 on Feb 11, 2010 12:06 AM EST up reply actions
This map is awesome and kinda related.
http://www.unitedcountriesofbaseball.com/images/UCOB-1280×960.jpg
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by Travis Hughes on Feb 10, 2010 10:26 PM EST up reply actions
I think they were a bit generous with Pirates, too. Phillies has really crept west with the sucktacular consistency of the Pirates for the last 17 years.
"Tortorella’s got it all wrong ... Gaborik shouldn’t be messing with our skilled player." -Peter Luuko
So true...
Here in Harrisburg everyone is a Phillies, Pens, and Steelers fans…as a fan of all of the Philly teams it makes me sick to see this type of front running behavior.
It’s still weird to me that being a Phillies fan can even remotely be called front-running.
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by Travis Hughes on Feb 10, 2010 10:37 PM EST up reply actions
Agreed…and normally I wouldn’t throw it out there but when you root for the Pens and Steelers but instead of the Pirates you root for the Phillies then a front runner is exactly what you are.
I totally agree, yes.
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by Travis Hughes on Feb 10, 2010 10:39 PM EST up reply actions
True, but…I will say this: I grew up in central PA and it was pretty common to be Phillies, Steelers and Flyers fan there. Back then it was more Flyers because the Bears were Flyers farm team. Now they are the Caps, so I imagine there’s also a fair amount of Caps fans living amongst the Pens base.
"Tortorella’s got it all wrong ... Gaborik shouldn’t be messing with our skilled player." -Peter Luuko
No one likes the Pirates. I’m a student at a college an 45 minutes west of WB-S and there are a bunch of Philly fans, New York fans, Steeler fans, and Penguin fans, but one thing I have never seen is a Pittsburgh Pirate fans.
And having to deal with front-runner, bandwagon Phillie fans is something I never thought would happen as much as 3 years ago.
Proudly supporting a Flyers team with "no honor".
Minor correction: No one likes the Pirates team, lots of people go to the games just to see their stadium…..
by DragonGirl0583 on Feb 10, 2010 10:47 PM EST up reply actions
Me, me! That stadium rocks.
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by Travis Hughes on Feb 10, 2010 10:52 PM EST up reply actions
Agreed, might be the best in the country.
"Tortorella’s got it all wrong ... Gaborik shouldn’t be messing with our skilled player." -Peter Luuko
Camden Yards is an amazing stadium. Like I go once a year with my Fam, and am always taken away by it.
"NO HONOR"
Definitely up there too. In fact, I think CBP is up there too. Wish the neighborhood was better though.
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by Travis Hughes on Feb 10, 2010 10:57 PM EST up reply actions
That’s one thing that I probably need to do in my life. Go to PNC Park to see a Phillies-Pirates game.
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I might do that this year, money providing, but most likely not. Im also going to see the Phills play Fla in Fla, then the next day see Tampa play CWS in Tampa.
"NO HONOR"
Tropicana is the opposite of CBP and PNC. I’ve been there prob 5 times because I have family in the area. Not so nice.
"Tortorella’s got it all wrong ... Gaborik shouldn’t be messing with our skilled player." -Peter Luuko
Although it is absolutely hilarious that the roof of the Trop looks like a citrus juicer, by pure coincidence
by DragonGirl0583 on Feb 10, 2010 11:12 PM EST up reply actions
I thought so, but not like it smells like trash or anything. I think it was just sort of stagnant, I guess that’s the right word. You have this really humid air, but because it’s not a retractable roof it’s not exactly easy to get fresh air in, and you get that situation when it just smells off. That was my experience, anyway.
by DragonGirl0583 on Feb 10, 2010 11:41 PM EST up reply actions
If you’re driving, be warned, that drive from Fl Lauderdale to St Petersburg feels a lot longer than it looks on a map
by DragonGirl0583 on Feb 10, 2010 11:15 PM EST up reply actions
I guess I should clarify that a bit. The biggest fan groups that I see up here by exact team are in no particular order: Phillies, Eagles, Flyers, Yankees, Steelers, Penguins, Giants, Jets.
I don’t see a lot of Mets, Rangers, Islanders, or even Devils. And like I said before, I don’t think I’ve ever seen one Pirate hat.
Proudly supporting a Flyers team with "no honor".
I only mentioned because people seriously do love PNC Park, kinda scary actually. My best friend is a native* of Pittsburgh, and Pirates are very low on their priority list…. Last I checked, the pecking order was still:
1) Steelers
2) Beer
3) God
4) Penguins
5) Everything Else
6) Pirates
(Note: the top 3 are completely interchangeable)
by DragonGirl0583 on Feb 10, 2010 10:52 PM EST up reply actions
historically the Pirates are a much more storied franchise than the Phillies…. during the Philadelphia’s golden age of baseball when the A’s regined from 1901-1930 to go to a phillies game was considered slumming it ….that’s how bad they were. The Phillies have been as bad as the Pirates are now alot more throughout their history than the Pirates.
That’s definitely true. They have 3 more World Series titles than the Phillies do, but nowadays, it’s like a minor miracle to see anybody sporting a Pittsburgh Pirate hat.
Proudly supporting a Flyers team with "no honor".
esp. the Pillboxes from the ’70’s…The last one i saw was the guitarist of Suicidal Tendencies wearing one in the late ’80s
That’s a name I haven’t heard in a long time.
Do you see what happens when you find a stranger in the Alps?
I agree with most of that….the section of Jersey listed as the mets needs to be like, striped with Yankees colors and mets colors, I think calling Montreal as Jays territory might be disputable since they’re quite bitter about the whole thing in general, but yeah, mostly agree
by DragonGirl0583 on Feb 10, 2010 10:29 PM EST up reply actions
Not giving me any credit, are you? haha
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by Geoff Detweiler on Feb 10, 2010 10:54 PM EST up reply actions
Was that you? I totally forget, haha.
Geoff made the map, everybody. Oh, too much credit? Geoff found the map, everybody
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by Travis Hughes on Feb 10, 2010 10:55 PM EST up reply actions
haha, ego satisfied.
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by Geoff Detweiler on Feb 10, 2010 10:55 PM EST up reply actions
Geoff Invented Maps.
Zombie Geoff Eats Maps.
Do you see what happens when you find a stranger in the Alps?
Oh man, this reminds me so much of a friend I had in college. He was a huge one-upper and it got to the point where whenever something like this happened, 8 of us would just take it to the next level: “I found the map. I made the map. I invented maps. I was the artist for Lewis and Clark. I was Lewis…and Clark.” and on, and on, and on until it eventually got to “I am God, inventor of everything.”
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by Geoff Detweiler on Feb 10, 2010 11:12 PM EST up reply actions
Any one else get txt from the Flyers, after games and when they make moves and what not? Its amazing how when the lose, I erase the txt as soon as I get it, but when they win, I read it like its a good book haha.
"NO HONOR"
hell, i stay on this thread
i read all reviews, and watch espn just for a chance to see highlights when we win
Eat what the monkey eats, then eat the monkey. -U.S. Navy survival guidance
knuble just scored
tie game
Eat what the monkey eats, then eat the monkey. -U.S. Navy survival guidance
Attention Flyers
DO NOT BE THE 8TH SEED!!!!!!!
by Prometheus74 on Feb 10, 2010 10:15 PM EST up reply actions
Oh man I knew I should have said earlier that Gagne would score tonight. I’m pretty much a silent prophet
I would be telling the world al,l about it but Ive been keeping my mouth shut
by Prometheus74 on Feb 10, 2010 10:24 PM EST up reply actions
Montreal wins in OT. Crap on a cracker. When you want/need those stupid Caps to win, they can’t.
"Tortorella’s got it all wrong ... Gaborik shouldn’t be messing with our skilled player." -Peter Luuko
Meh, who cares at this point. No one is catching them unless they go on a monumental slide or Ovechkin gets hurt.
"Tortorella’s got it all wrong ... Gaborik shouldn’t be messing with our skilled player." -Peter Luuko
Offtopic, but when did the NHL decide to be honest with attendance all of a sudden? Official attendance for the Devils game 5580, and for the Rangers-Preds game 13,128. Meanwhile the game in December against the Rangers at the Wachovia Center was reported as a sellout at 19,637?
… maybe they only sold 5,580? lol
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by Travis Hughes on Feb 10, 2010 10:40 PM EST up reply actions
I can’t remember the last time a Rangers game at MSG wasn’t listed as a “sellout.”
by Ben Feldman on Feb 10, 2010 10:42 PM EST up reply actions
Oh, good call. Who knows. That’s going to affect the overall attendance numbers big time, though.
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by Travis Hughes on Feb 10, 2010 10:43 PM EST up reply actions
Also, the Flyers apparently only had one shot in the third period? JJ wasn’t kidding when he said the statisticians at the Rock are picky with shots.
Yeah, we had more shots in overtime. Also, did it look to anyone else that Gagne’s shot may have changed direction? It looked to me as if it hit Carter.
I thought the same thing
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by Geoff Detweiler on Feb 10, 2010 11:13 PM EST up reply actions
i thought so too, but it didn’t seem to be a major change, I thought it was more of a clip or a graze than an actual deflection.
by DragonGirl0583 on Feb 10, 2010 11:16 PM EST up reply actions
Yeah, I thought it glanced off of his body. Nice to see Gagne get credit though, he needs all the confidence boost he can get. Even though it’s a nice “up yours” if Carter gets two after all the commotion about the hit.
Gagne looked like a man on a mission in that shift before he scored. Thats the Gagne we all know and love . . .
by Mitchell Green on Feb 10, 2010 11:03 PM EST reply actions
Amen to that. It was like the engine had been stuck in neutral and then it was suddenly in high gear.
by DragonGirl0583 on Feb 10, 2010 11:10 PM EST up reply actions
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