Round One: Sparks fly, Flyers beat Habs 3-2
by Travis Hughes on Feb 12, 2010 9:08 PM EST
in 09-10 Game Recaps
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They always make things interesting, don't they?
Up three goals and just down right runnin' things through two periods, the Philadelphia Flyers gave up two goals to the Montreal Canadiens in the first minute of the third to make the game a whoooole lot closer than any of us would've liked.
From there, Michael Leighton came up big several times and the Flyers played very strong defensive hockey to squeak out a victory. The Canadiens didn't help themselves much, either, taking a few penalties in the middle portion of the period to keep the Flyers on the power play. As ineffective as those power plays may have been for the Flyers, they still meant that the Habs didn't have a chance to generate any offense during a critical time in the hockey game.
Late in the third, Montreal's Jaroslav Spacek went to pick up a loose puck along the end boards. As he went to play the puck along the dasher, he turned his back to the Flyers' Darroll Powe, who had been sizing him up for a hit. Powe was already too close to Spacek to hold up, and as he delivered his check, Spacek's face went into the boards.
It wasn't Powe's fault, and we sincerely hope Spacek is alright. But that injury is on him. To not turn your back on the play is one of the first things you're taught when you learn to receive a hit as a young hockey player, and to give Powe a penalty at a critical point in a one-goal hockey game for simply finishing his check -- something else you're taught to do as a young player -- is just down right embarrassing.
When you consider the fact that the hockey-crazed Montreal spot light was on this game, the Powe hit will no doubt be the next episode in the chronicle of how dirty the Philadelphia Flyers are. We're used to that though, right?
Whatever. We win. 6th place is ours. Story lines set for tomorrow at Bell Center (Americanized, that's right). After the jump, questions with answers and the comment of the night.
Questions With Answers
- Can the Flyers get back to scoring the first goal? Yes sir or ma'am.
- Montreal isn't a wonderful defensive team, and they're one of only two teams currently in the playoff picture with a negative goal differential. Can the Flyers capitalize? They controlled the offense for most of the game, minus a quick lapse in the third. If not for Carey Price, the Flyers could've blown this one wide open.
- Can Michael Leighton not give up a softy? He played a solid game tonight. No softies.
- The power play has been atrocious lately. Does it pick back up? It looked decent, but not great.
- Does Blair Betts have any extra jump after signing a two-year contract extension? Nothing particularly different.
Comment of the Night
At this rate the McDonald’s Power Play Jackpot will be re-named "Who Wants to be a Millionaire."
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After the end to tonight’s game, Centre Bell (sorry) is going to be an absolute madhouse tomorrow night….. not that it ever really isn’t crazy there, but it should be quite the game. The Flyers are going to need to be fired up, I don’t know if they’re going to get away with any lengthy lapse in effort tomorrow with both the team and the fans out to get them. Lets hope they can stand up to it and go into the break on a win streak.
When was the last game the Flyers played with a major penalty in it? I clearly remember a major and minor against opposing teams, and being puzzled because they played the two minutes out, then had the three minute power play. Tonight, the opposite happened. Yet again, the on ice officiating is inconsistent in interpreting the same rules. (I recall in the fall two games in which a confusing icing/penalty situation developed, and the faceoff was conducted in two different locations.)
Watch this video:
Follow Scott Hartnell.
1) He starts as the middle of three Flyers on the inside at the faceoff and skates towards the dot.
2) He then chases the puck into the high slot
3) Then forces a man wide and passes him off, winding up on the far side of the ice hashmarks
4) Now he comes back into the crease to clear the puck off of Pyatt’s stick and save the game-tying goal
5) Finally he outmuscles Pyatt to take possession of the puck and end the threat.
He made some nice offensive plays and got two assists, but That was the best play of the game.
That was a very good shift. Did you happen to see this video?
Broad Street Hockey - Makin' it look mean since 1967.
by Geoff Detweiler on Feb 12, 2010 10:18 PM EST up reply actions
No. I picked the game up 4 minutes in.
But feel free to explain why Jeff Carter missing/deflecting a pass is relevant to the discussion.
Strike that, we’ll pretend that pass wasn’t right in front of Carter who made a play at it with his stick.
Let’s pretend it was a plain turnover. The Montreal player flags a pass down and gets himself a 1-3 (as Hartnell gets himself back into the play to shut it down) and then takes a slapshot that’s going over the crossbar.
Big deal.
haha, okay. Apparently you will now focus on Hartnell to give him praise at every occasion while ignoring his faults simply because you refuse to ignore that JVR is outperforming him? Showing one good shift by him doesn’t refute the evidence that JVR is having a better year in every statistical category save hits than Scott Hartnell.
Got it. Can’t wait!
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by Geoff Detweiler on Feb 12, 2010 10:29 PM EST up reply actions
refuse to accept that JVR is outperforming him?*
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by Geoff Detweiler on Feb 12, 2010 10:33 PM EST up reply actions
Save hits, blocked shots, penalties drawn, and generally knowing what the fuck you are doingness.
But his +/- sure is great!
Apparently you will now focus on Hartnell to give him praise at every occasion
Yep, that. Or, it was an awesome hockey play, in fact the best play of the game.
Keep hanging your hat on hits and blocked shots.
Penalties drawn: 5 less than penalties taken. You still think this helps your argument?
But his Goals, Points, +/-, giveaways, takeaways, corsi rating, GFON/60, GAON/60, a higher CQoC with a lower CQoT, and more production in the last 10, 15, and 27 games sure are irrelevant since Hartnell has more hits and blocked shots.
So that’s, what, 13-2 in favor of JVR? Oh, and he does it with a lot less ice time, especially PP TOI. But I’ll still call it 13-2.
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by Geoff Detweiler on Feb 12, 2010 11:04 PM EST up reply actions
Penalties drawn: 5 less than penalties taken.
4 less, he drew another one tonight.
But his Goals, Points, +/-, giveaways, takeaways, corsi rating, GFON/60, GAON/60, a higher CQoC with a lower CQoT, and more production in the last 10, 15, and 27 games sure are irrelevant since Hartnell has more hits and blocked shots.
Yep, they are.
One guy plays defense, is the heart of the team, and is a proven 30 goal scorer. The other guy drifts around the ice, falls down carrying the puck, and does absolutely nothing in his own zone.
You should probably update your stats before you make an argument, since its no longer in your favor:
28 games: JVR 12 pts, Hartnell 12 pts.
16 games: JVR 6 pts, Hartnell 8 pts.
11 games: JVR 3pts, Hartnell 6 pts
In fact, your numbers were NEVER actually right since Hartnell before tonight had actually more points in the previous 10 and 15 games.
For the entire season:
Hartnell: 12g, 33pts
JVR: 13 g, 32pts
Hartnell also has a hand in a whole bunch of goals without credit when he’s in front of the net causing havoc.
But, two guys will essentially the same production, one of who plays above average defense and the other is useless in his zone and in the corners?
There is absolutely no question Hartnell is the better player.
Keep ignoring the stats.
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by Geoff Detweiler on Feb 12, 2010 11:23 PM EST up reply actions
Did you just say hartnell is a good defensive player? That’s a first. The guy is almost as unless as danny in the defensive zone
"NO HONOR"
by JpH89 on Feb 12, 2010 11:24 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
What play did Carter make on it? The puck was passed him before he even put his stick down.
But while we are just pretending I guess you can describe it that way if you want.
The way the Canadien moved, it seemed like it may have been deflected, though that could’ve just been his awkward positioning to keep the puck in the zone.
Either way, it was right around the tape of Carter’s stick, or at least where it would be if Carter had his stick down.
Obviously, the puck didn’t go through Carter’s skates, thats just the closest still I could capture which showed the puck. The fraction of a second earlier when the puck was even with Carter, it’s obviously within the reach of the blade of his stick.
Hartnell has had a rough year, but he had a very good game last night. After his opening-minute turnover he did a very good job.
Games like last night make me wish he didn’t do half of the stupid things he does, because he can be an extremely effective hockey player when he’s got his head on straight.
Do you see what happens when you find a stranger in the Alps?
Kovalchuk scores his first goal as a NJD and the NJ fans throw hats on the ice? He scored one goal, not three.
Interesting.
"Tortorella’s got it all wrong ... Gaborik shouldn’t be messing with our skilled player." -Peter Luuko
haha, I heard that, but really, how many hats were on the ice? It’s NJ after all.
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by Geoff Detweiler on Feb 12, 2010 11:04 PM EST up reply actions
One is too many if it’s not a hat trick.
"Tortorella’s got it all wrong ... Gaborik shouldn’t be messing with our skilled player." -Peter Luuko
It is a interesting welcoming gesture.
I hate the Devils, their players, and their fans.
However the gesture was spontaneous and sincere.
I like it.
Now I hope this dose not become a trend
by Prometheus74 on Feb 13, 2010 11:24 AM EST up reply actions
Let me bring this back:
WHY was there a powerplay to end the game?
Here’s the <a href=“http:// ”http://www.nhl.com/scores/htmlreports/20092010/PL020356.HTM" target="_blank">http://www.nhl.com/scores/htmlreports/20092010/PL020356.HTM" >play by play from earlier in the year when Patrick Kaleta ran Ross and took a 5 for boarding and a 10. Cote took 2 for roughing in responding.
When play resumed, it was 4-4 until Cote’s penalty ran out, then the Flyers had a 3 minute power play. So why was it not even strength tonight?
Not sure what happened, here’s that link again:
http://www.nhl.com/scores/htmlreports/20092010/PL020356.HTM
Cote takes 2, Kaleta takes 5 and 10 at 9:28 of the first period.
Check the rulebook. That’s a good question.
Do you see what happens when you find a stranger in the Alps?
The problem here is that the Cote / Kaleta etc incident did not occur in the last 5 minutes of regulation. The rules are different then. I hate the NHL rulebook, but here’s the entry:
19.4 Last Five Minutes and Overtime – During the last five (5) minutes of regulation time, or at any time in overtime, when a minor penalty (or double-minor penalty) is assessed to one player or goalkeeper of Team A, and a major (or match) penalty is assessed to one player or goalkeeper of Team B at the same stoppage of play, the three-minute (or one-minute) differential shall be served immediately as a major penalty. This is also applicable when coincidental penalties are negated, leaving the aforementioned examples. In such instances, the team of the player or goalkeeper receiving the major penalty must place the replacement player in the penalty bench prior to expiration of the penalty. In the case of a match penalty, the team must place the replacement player in the penalty bench immediately. The differential will be recorded on the penalty clock as a three (3) minute or a one (1) minute penalty (as applicable), and served in the same manner as a major penalty.
by DragonGirl0583 on Feb 13, 2010 12:59 AM EST up reply actions
So
Do we see the new Red Wings winger if Powe is suspended?
Assuming Lavvy isn’t in a random mood to break Cote’s 23 straight scratches streak and put him in instead, I’m pretty sure Leino’s higher than Cote on the depth chart. (Unless Laviolette isn’t getting along with him, at which point Leino could be in the hypothetical “I can’t get playing time if my life depended on it” corner with Boosh)
by DragonGirl0583 on Feb 13, 2010 12:40 AM EST up reply actions
I think I am higher than Cote on the depth chart, and I fell down on my butt shoveling my driveway
by Prometheus74 on Feb 13, 2010 11:27 AM EST up reply actions
i just don’t think he will be suspended. lindros laid a similar hit (with similar results) during a game up in ottawa. the defensemen just turned the wrong way. of course, that was a few years ago, but for some reason i am extremely hung over and i feel its relevant.
Eat what the monkey eats, then eat the monkey. -U.S. Navy survival guidance
That was Dackell, I think he was a winger. Dude turned at the last second, and almost looks like he ducks to avoid the hit. To make matters worse, Dackell is 5’10’’, Lindros was 6’4’’
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ymt6EUtjQFc
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