Olympic Hockey Day 3 Preview and Open Thread: USA, Canada, Russia look to Continue Dominance
It's pretty much a carbon copy of Monday's action--Americans up first, then the Canadians, and the Russians last. Except there's no Latvia on the bill, so it's not entirely clear why we're supposed to care. At the end of the night, odds are three teams will still be undefeated, and three teams will still be winless.
Group A Game 3: United States (1-0-0-0) vs. Norway (0-0-0-1) - USA Network: There was an interesting moment in the Canada-Norway game where Patrick Thoresen came close to scoring a goal. By close, I mean he had a shot on goal, which is more than most any other Norwegian can claim. Do we miss Patrick Thoreson? He gave his left ball for us, and we let him go. This game should be a chance for the US offense to go nuts, which Jonas Hiller didn't really give them.

Group A Game 4: Canada (1-0-0-0) vs. Switzerland (0-0-0-1) - 7:30 EST - CNBC: Switzerland may be neutral, but the Canadians are going to spend this whole game invading them regardless. How much can Jonas Hiller take before he breaks? I'm guessing about five goals will go in before the final horn sounds. Mike Richards will probably score at least two of them, already feeling the pressure of Oskars Bartulis breathing down his neck on the Flyers scoring race subplot that has dominated much of the Olympic coverage in Vancouver. Rumors about Mark Streit leaving a trail of poisoned Lindt truffles around Martin Brodeur's locker are as of yet unconfirmed.
Group B Game 3:
Russia (1-0-0-0) vs. Slovakia (0-0-0-1) - 11:55 EST - CNBC: Slovakia didn't play that badly against the Czechs, outshooting them almost 2-1. But Tomas Vokoun was good enough to shut them down consistently, and I'm guessing Nabokov or Bryzgalov will be as well. If the Russians go with Varlamov things could be slightly dicier, but I don't see that happening. A Russian rout would help Latvian self-esteem, so let's hold out for that, I guess.
As per usual, your comments and thoughts are needed and encouraged all day and all of the night.
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Is NBC really not putting the hockey game on another channel?
Good grief these people are incompetent.
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Kessel!!!!!
How nice of NBC?? We only missed the 1st 2 minutes of the game. Sad part is that is quite good for them. But really? The USA game? How moronic can these people get?
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missed it.
i hate NBC. the only thing that would make up for this is if JR went into beast mode in the announcing booth.
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OKT!
Did I mis hear or did Doc just say “Kristian Tollefsen” and not “Ole-Kristian Tollefsen”. And he mispronounced Tollefsen
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I do believe you are correct.
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by Ben Rothenberg on Feb 18, 2010 3:27 PM EST up reply actions
They’ve had like nine real quality scoring chances already. This one should be a bloodbath.
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USA 2-0 NOR
Drury on the rebound
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David Backes has been the biggest surprise for me in this tournament. Dude is awesome.
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Dude fights too. In the world juniors he fought, and has four fights this season.
by orangeandblack20 on Feb 18, 2010 4:17 PM EST up reply actions
1st intermission entertainment (a.k.a. I love JR)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QI38ix9zhWo
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This game should be a chance for the US offense to go nuts, which Jonas Hiller didn’t really give them.
This was a somewhat unfortunate choice of phrase, given that Thoresen was being discussed in the previous sentence. Hopefully no shots go nuts today.
"When you make your final stand
I'll be right there
I'll never leave
And all I ask of you is
Believe"
did milbury just state that norway beat norway?
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I heard the same thing as well and was thought surely I misheard. Apparently not.
Norway beat Norway!!! Amazing!
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not even the nazis did that
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Norwegians are real, real proud of their resistance in WWII. They even have a whole Hjemmefrontmuseum dedicated to it in Oslo.
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by Ben Rothenberg on Feb 18, 2010 4:04 PM EST up reply actions
I get it!
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by Ben Rothenberg on Feb 18, 2010 4:04 PM EST up reply actions
Lauren Hart shoutout by Emrick!
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USA 3-1 NOR
Shorthanded goal for Norway? WTF?
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Doesn’t bug me, really. I don’t want any team leaving the Olympics goalless.
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by Ben Rothenberg on Feb 18, 2010 4:11 PM EST up reply actions
How badly does this tournament need Latvia back?
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I like how in Mirtle’s tournament, none of these games from the first three days would have even taken place.
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by Ben Rothenberg on Feb 18, 2010 4:41 PM EST up reply actions
If Emrick calls THOResen, TOUResen one more time…
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this kessler kid’s relentless. really impressing me
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Doc, Edzo, and Pierre and the rest of the NBC crew (minus JR) have been worse than their usual awful this game.
From Milbury’s idiotic “Norway beat Norway” to Edzo’s typical inaneness to Doc mispronouncing the name of every ex-Flyer on Norway, it’s just been awful. And I am almost positive that I heard Pierre McGuire say that a player was “wearing a full fellatio”.
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They looked pretty terrible. Gonna have to improve quickly before Canada.
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from about 10 minutes into the second until the last 5 of the third they just looked meh
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I think the only reason they scored those goals at the end was because Norway just got too tired.
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by Travis Hughes on Feb 18, 2010 5:46 PM EST up reply actions
we won 6-1 …glad i missed what sounds like yet another boring ass olympic mismatched hockey game which the follow quote
They looked pretty terrible. Gonna have to improve quickly before Canada.
only reinforces.
really, the only thing that concerns me is the malaise, subsequent carelessness , and the ensuing odd man rushes the other team gets as a result. this usually takes place somewhere in the second period.
other than that, we’re sound.
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well the point was why do they bother with these scrub games….either have qualifying rounds before the Games and let the best of a few teams play more intensive series or only allow amateurs to play.
What channel is this on? Any now?
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Nvm, CNBC switching now. Honestly, they stick with the stupidest stuff. UK vs. Russia curling?
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by Ben Rothenberg on Feb 18, 2010 7:58 PM EST up reply actions
Personally, I dig curling. And I have no idea why. But myself and my advisor just had a 30 min conversation about it.
"NZFlyerfan"
I don’t understand the game like many of people, but I think the fascination with is that people see it as something that they could possible do like a lot of techinal sports: golf, shooting, bowling, archery. Esp. in contrast to the alot of the Winter games that are done at high speeds, are acrobatic or requires skating. Most people can’t achieve the speeds of a sprinter but they know how to run…not the same as skating…in fact a huge portion of the world will never skate or ski in their life.
Keeping with our theme… I present the Vampires of Switzerland
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wX1ZPYKCZBE
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It’s pre-Twilight, so not tweeny, but I’m not sure I’d say cool.
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by Ben Rothenberg on Feb 18, 2010 8:19 PM EST up reply actions
well, we just need to have the swedish ninjas, and we’ll have the nerdiest olympics yet haha.
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I don’t have Swedish ninjas, but will Finnish Warcraft-type things work?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B5ZfQMOHB5k
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by Ben Rothenberg on Feb 18, 2010 8:26 PM EST up reply actions
GWAR

Either they are GWAR…spoof metal outfit from Richmond VA…VCU art majors turned performance art
or a GWAR knock -off
you haven’t lived ’till you have been to a gwar concert.
just saw them at the 930 club last december(?). they (and the crowd) never fail to dissappoint.
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I remember the 9:30 club when it was 1 rat trap better than DC Space. I don’t think GWAR was around then but that would have been the place to see the cause it was small….the new 9:30 has amazing sound system..I saw La Bradford there and the Swans …the sound was amazing
indeed, the sound was intense.
my highlight was a 6’5" guy in a big bird costume absolutely owning the pit.
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And if you want something really not cool…the last time Switzerland won Eurovision was in 1988, with a Canadian at the helm, ironically.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gu3H4A3Dvms
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by Ben Rothenberg on Feb 18, 2010 8:23 PM EST up reply actions
Do Richards and Crosby really like playing with each other. It must be hard to set aside your real feelings for this. You know he wants to pop him one.
by MJDII on Feb 18, 2010 8:33 PM EST via mobile reply actions
Im sure they are friends in real life, or they at least dont hate each other. Most players like everybody else, its the fans that make rivals.
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There’s a lot of personal stuff between hockey players, only because it’s such a dangerous game. But Richards and Crosby know each other from Juniors and stuff so I don’t think they are really enemies. As much as it pains me to say it, Crosby seems like he’s a good dude, even if he is a douche.
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Yeah, but it’s so unfortnate. I happen to like good dudes, but douches are tougher to take.
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Touche, good sir.
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CAN 2-1 SUI
Wow, Brodeur didn’t even move for that.
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jeez, thanks NBC.
EVERYBODY THANK NBC. USE BOTH FINGERS.
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by psudrozz on Feb 18, 2010 8:35 PM EST reply actions 1 recs
Switzerland is really letting all hang out
by MJDII on Feb 18, 2010 8:44 PM EST via mobile reply actions
Lil’ advice, Heatley. When you have a breakaway, might want to try to shoot the puck.
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CAN 2-2 SUI
Daaaammmmmnnnnnn
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Switzerland is pushing back something nasty.
by MJDII on Feb 18, 2010 8:52 PM EST via mobile reply actions
You gotta watch out for us damn Swiss. We’re sneaky and violent bastards.
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i heard pronger yell “your chocolate sucks”
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Canada seem to be like,
“Hey we’re Team Canada, we’re gonna win. We don’t have to turn up and play”
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He isn’t playing enough to even have an influence on this game. He should be playing more
by MJDII on Feb 18, 2010 9:10 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
Getzlaf is barely wearing that visor.
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Babcock seems to be more interested in wearing out the sharks line than winning the game.
by MJDII on Feb 18, 2010 9:15 PM EST via mobile reply actions
Heh, quite possibly.
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by Ben Rothenberg on Feb 18, 2010 9:16 PM EST up reply actions
Nevermind…
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by Ben Rothenberg on Feb 18, 2010 9:15 PM EST up reply actions
- gets free beer bak in the motherland for that one
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Holy hell, Hiller rocks.
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hiller made me crap my pants a little
by lerris on Feb 18, 2010 9:28 PM EST via mobile reply actions
doubleh gotta be going nuts right now
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What, because I’m Swiss? It is pretty awesome. I look at Canada like I look at the Yankees. They make us feel like we’re lucky they let us play their sport. No offense to the fine Canadians on our team, of course.
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Yep, Sunday
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by Travis Hughes on Feb 18, 2010 9:33 PM EST up reply actions
This is some favorable reffing these Canucks are getting. Shoulda been a call against em on the other end too.
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Aren’t some of the officials from the NHL anyway?
by DragonGirl0583 on Feb 18, 2010 9:38 PM EST up reply actions
Bettman only agreed to NHL in the olympics if Crosby can win.
by MJDII on Feb 18, 2010 9:36 PM EST via mobile reply actions
Hope we don’t miss overtime for commercials
by MJDII on Feb 18, 2010 9:41 PM EST via mobile reply actions
Luca! woooo
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Brodeur
Almost with the oopsie behind his net.
He wouldn’t fit in with the Philadelphia Nazis, he’s Swiss
Come on JR, you know you wanna hit Milbury
I dont think a SO will be good for the Swiss, just a hunch.
Come on JR, you know you wanna hit Milbury
OK
Canada can throw out a decent shootout lineup.
This game has been awesome. It’s about time.
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I gotta think they have a forward better than Sbisa.
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by Ben Rothenberg on Feb 18, 2010 9:56 PM EST up reply actions
Btw, USA with sole possession of first in Group A regardless.
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Pluss
Had a nice little rip, all right moral victory for the Swiss
Moral victory for the Swiss, for sure.
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by Ben Rothenberg on Feb 18, 2010 10:00 PM EST reply actions
Smile, Sidney, at least.
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by Ben Rothenberg on Feb 18, 2010 10:01 PM EST reply actions
Should Canada be that happy to only win in shootout?
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Is it really happiness or is it relief?
by DragonGirl0583 on Feb 18, 2010 10:02 PM EST up reply actions
is that true?
the goal differential for canada is +9
ours is at +7
we go into overtime and lose, they have goal differential tiebreaker
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tie-braker, because we beat the swiss in regulation, or some ish. The olympic rules are weird
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so the US wins (reg or OT) and they get the bye, right?
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Not a bye, but If we win Canada has to Face Russia in an early elimination game!
by Prometheus74 on Feb 18, 2010 10:10 PM EST up reply actions
Meh, Swiss took it to the Canucks. Canadian team doesn’t impress me much, esp with Brodeur in net.
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agreed-outside of niedermeir, pronger, and richards they are soft
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They remind me of the “Dream Team” basketball. All those stars, so chemistry.
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Haha, I just had a flashback to the joke of the year they made Iverson the Olympic captain and we got crushed…. /cracking up
by DragonGirl0583 on Feb 18, 2010 10:06 PM EST up reply actions
Agreed, he’s not their best bet.
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by Ben Rothenberg on Feb 18, 2010 10:03 PM EST up reply actions
I trust him more
In a SO than LUOOOOO though
I’m not sure why they’re making a tired Brodeur be the starting guy, it’s not like the other two couldn’t handle it, especially in round robin play
by DragonGirl0583 on Feb 18, 2010 10:05 PM EST up reply actions
“tired”?
not sure what you mean.
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I mean in the sense that NJ doesn’t really give him any rest, so he’s played more than the other two with less recovery time
by DragonGirl0583 on Feb 18, 2010 10:08 PM EST up reply actions
he had 5(?) days off, yes?
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Because they didn’t start him the first game, yeah, which I know I read somewhere that he was specifically not started because he needed rest. He’s started nearly every game for NJ this season, he doesn’t get time off during the season where most goalies get a game off every once in a while. I’m not saying it’s the only factor here, I’m just mentioning that Brodeur is routinely overworked by the Devils and this season is no exception.
by DragonGirl0583 on Feb 18, 2010 10:14 PM EST up reply actions
please tell me they aren’t putting women’s hockey on next
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You mean you wouldn’t rather see women’s hockey than the figure skating on the main channel?
by DragonGirl0583 on Feb 18, 2010 10:17 PM EST up reply actions
don’t get me wrong-i am not opposed to women’s hockey. i just don’t like the rules they play by. lack of hitting makes for bad hockey.
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I only meant that crack as a side by side comparison, not an indication that you have to like women’s hockey if you don’t want to
by DragonGirl0583 on Feb 18, 2010 10:27 PM EST up reply actions
See, now I like figure skating. I just don’t understand how they judge it. It all seems so subjective to me. If the person lands the triple toe loop, I think it’s awesome. What do I know?
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I do too, but I’ve heard lots of complaints from the boys so I don’t expect them to enjoy it
by DragonGirl0583 on Feb 18, 2010 10:28 PM EST up reply actions
For the past 20 years or so. Blame Scott Hamilton. I think he started it. It’s a flamboyant sport, but you have to walk the fine line or else the judges punish you (see: Johnny Weir). It’s a weird sport and their judges are uber critical and completely biased.
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That is exactly the reason why I can’t watch it, even if I can totally respect and be shocked by what they can do on skates.
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by Travis Hughes on Feb 18, 2010 10:55 PM EST up reply actions
Judges piss you off? I can totally understand it. But I like watching the programs, just not the judging.
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I need to know it’s fair in the end to enjoy it, though. I generally hate all judged sports for that same reason.
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by Travis Hughes on Feb 18, 2010 11:38 PM EST up reply actions
I guess I always remember them being glittery, but you may be right, it may be increasing some. That or several years of exposure to Johnny Weir could have just numbed me to the point that I don’t notice anymore.
by DragonGirl0583 on Feb 18, 2010 10:32 PM EST up reply actions
how long has Johnny Weir been around? I only like him because hes local, other then that i don’t really care.
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5 or 6 years? I remember that he was US champ in 2006, he skated in Torino but made some mistakes and didn’t medal
by DragonGirl0583 on Feb 18, 2010 10:37 PM EST up reply actions
Per that ever substantiated Wikipedia: He is a three-time U.S. National Champion (2004-2006), the 2008 Worlds bronze medalist, a two-time Grand Prix Final medalist and the 2001 World Junior Champion. As of February 2010 he is ranked eighth in the world.
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How unlucky am I? Really?
At 2-0 I leave to go and hang out with some friends figuring Canada had it in control, and what do you know, we finally have a thriller.
Just my luck.
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Maybe history will repeat and the midnight game will once again be the most exciting game of the day, who knows?
by DragonGirl0583 on Feb 18, 2010 10:51 PM EST up reply actions
Latvia has won it’s first ever silver medal at a Winter Olympics! Even better, they did it in the most prestigious sport of all: Men’s Doubles Luge!
Here are your heroes, Andris Sics and Juris Sics!


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by Ben Rothenberg on Feb 18, 2010 11:03 PM EST reply actions
Such backstory, too!
The Latvian team of Andris and Juris Sics finished seventh in Torino and their careers began with a schoolboy prank.
“One night when he was nine Juris broke into the luge track in Sigulda where we live and started going down in a little plastic kids sled,” 24-year-old told Reuters.
“He got caught by a course worker and the guy said if you are so mad to go down there in that thing you had better come and join the club and get coached.
“When I found out the next day, of course I was jealous and wanted to do it too. Now we are in our second Olympics together and hoping to get a medal for our biggest fan — our granny.”
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by Ben Rothenberg on Feb 18, 2010 11:06 PM EST up reply actions
Can’t these Commie-puke Russians do anything right? They are supposed to blowout Slovakia yet it’s scoreless and they have hardly looked like the better team.
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I’m sure they’re all distraught about Pluschenko losing.
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by Ben Rothenberg on Feb 19, 2010 12:25 AM EST up reply actions
I’m sure they’re find some way to turn the tide, maybe Malkin will step on this goalie’s hand too….
by DragonGirl0583 on Feb 19, 2010 12:26 AM EST up reply actions
Slovakia really holding their own so far…
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by Ben Rothenberg on Feb 19, 2010 12:24 AM EST reply actions
They are and it’s been a different game, objectively speaking, but if our Latvian pirates end up with Canada on the first day of the knockout round because the USA beat Canada and the Russians could not blow out the Slovaks, I’ll be pretty pissed off.
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Unlikely, since Latvia is going to make both the Czechs and Slovaks walk the plank early and often.
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by Ben Rothenberg on Feb 19, 2010 12:32 AM EST up reply actions
But did you see the way the refs were calling that Russia game?
They clearly don’t want the most talented team in this field of 12 to win.
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I don’t know, I think the refs have Latvia’s best. They know they’re at their best on the PK.
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by Ben Rothenberg on Feb 19, 2010 1:28 AM EST up reply actions
Slovakia did get screwed by having to play last one night then again the next day. They should’ve gotten an earlier slot yesterday.
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by Ben Rothenberg on Feb 19, 2010 12:40 AM EST reply actions
See, you saw this one… this time it was me who walked out of the room!
by DragonGirl0583 on Feb 19, 2010 1:09 AM EST up reply actions
It’s incredible that neither the U.S., Canada, nor Russia have looked particularly sharp today.
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And Sweden didn’t look very good yesterday either, it’s definitely not the complete domination by the top teams that people expect it to be
by DragonGirl0583 on Feb 19, 2010 1:20 AM EST up reply actions
Slovakia wins
7 rounds. Dimitra got the game winner while Ovechkin missed more times than Carter would have.
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This tournament has just gotten 10 times more wide open than it already was.
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so much for anticipating the seedings for elimination games
by Prometheus74 on Feb 19, 2010 2:43 AM EST up reply actions
I hope somebody puts the whole shootout up on YouTube. Can’t believe I missed it…
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NBC has the whole shootout start to finish:
by DragonGirl0583 on Feb 19, 2010 8:04 AM EST up reply actions
Awesome, thanks. Surprised they use TSN footage, though (not that it matters).
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by Ben Rothenberg on Feb 19, 2010 1:53 PM EST up reply actions
Me too! I had turned the computer off, but I made until there was less than 2 min in the third and still missed it.
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