Olympic Hockey Day 6 Preview and Open Thread: All Killer, No Filler
After Latvia shocked the world last night by killing off seven of eight Russian power plays, the Olympic tournament continues on with three games, the last of which is by far the most interesting.

Group B Game 6: Russia (1-0-1-0) vs. Czech Republic (2-0-0-0) - 3 PM - NBC: Broken and beaten from their respective games against Latvia, it will be interesting to see how many players disintegrate upon contact during this one. The Russians have a lot more to prove, but both are playing for the first round bye, which is totally up for grabs here. And in something no one expected, the Russians still could theoretically leave this tournament with their only win being over Latvia.

Group A Game 6: Canada (1-1-0-0) vs. United States(2-0-0-0) - 7:30 PM - MSNBC: The Canadian struggles with Switzerland look even worse in light of how close Switzerland came to losing to Norway. The US hasn't really been tested yet, which shouldn't necessarily matter much. Miller has looked better than Brodeur in this tournament, but the Canadian depth is obscene. This one could get ugly if the US doesn't show up on offense.


Group C Game 6: Sweden (2-0-0-0) vs. Germany (2-0-0-0) - 11:55 PM - CNBC: Off his two-goal outburst vs. Germany, it's likely that Kimmo Timonen will score five or so against his country's arch rivals, the Swedes. Great goaltending and goal scorers on both sides should make this one epic. I'll take Finland to win it, since they're my pick to win this whole thing (assuming they can avoid Latvia in the knockout stages).
Apologies for the lateness...do it to it in the comments.
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Greatest day of hockey ever, maybe
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I can’t believe Russia is only one for 13 on the PP.
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I missed it. How bad was it?
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hah.
I don’t know who I want to win this game, really.
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by Travis Hughes on Feb 21, 2010 3:29 PM EST up reply actions
Yeah, same.
I’ve slowly grown to hate Ovechkin. Used to love him. Not sure why I’ve changed.
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by Travis Hughes on Feb 21, 2010 3:32 PM EST up reply actions
I don’t necessarily like him, but I do have some respect for him because he doesn’t really whine or complain like certain other top players are known to do.
Yeah, I don’t hate him like Crosby or anything. But I’ve dropped from ‘like’ to ‘dislike.’
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by Travis Hughes on Feb 21, 2010 3:36 PM EST up reply actions
Well, it’s not really whining. It’s lobbying. Every captain looks like a whiner if you’re using that logic.
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by Travis Hughes on Feb 21, 2010 3:42 PM EST up reply actions
What language are they using down there, Pierre?
’On the Russian bench, Russian. On the Czech bench, Czech."
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Perfectly placed.
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by Travis Hughes on Feb 21, 2010 3:36 PM EST up reply actions
Move the Chairs out of the way!
JR and Milbury could move the chairs out of the way and go at it in the living room there and Michaels can referee.
I see it as Chase Utley vs. Ryan Howard. Chase Utley is an all-around elite player. There are no weaknesses in his game, but at the same time there’s not really one area where he necessarily dominates the rest of the league. Howard, on the other hand, is also an all-around elite player, but in many areas not quite to the same area Utley is (defense, for example). However, when it comes to power, Howard not only is above Utley, but is the best or second best in the entire MLB. Both Crosby and Ovechkin have their advantages and disadvantages, and you can’t go wrong choosing either over the other.
…Luckily, we have both Utley and Howard.
USA?
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by Travis Hughes on Feb 21, 2010 3:51 PM EST up reply actions
THANK YOU!
its amazing everyone has an article the USA Canada game but I could not find the time to save my life!!!
http://www.sbnation.com/2010/2/21/1320138/olympic-hockey-usa-vs-canada-preview
:)
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by Travis Hughes on Feb 21, 2010 3:56 PM EST up reply actions
So I haven’t quite mastered time conversions yet apparently. How many hours until the USA-Canada game?
"NZFlyerfan"
3 hours and 45 minutes.
Can someone better than me at math confirm that?
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Who ya rooting for?
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by Travis Hughes on Feb 21, 2010 3:57 PM EST up reply actions
I literally just turned on the TV to see Jagr get killed. That was horrible.
by orangeandblack20 on Feb 21, 2010 4:49 PM EST reply actions
anyone else switching over to nhl network in between games? they are playing the usa/canada in the world cup matchup from ’96.
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All three games?
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by Travis Hughes on Feb 21, 2010 5:46 PM EST up reply actions
Watching 1980, I can always watch about that team. I was in Mechanicsburg PA playing a PeeWee game when we watched the end of the game in the snack bar.
He leaves his feet, leads with an elbow and also slips poison into Jagr’s mouth on his way down.
Standard Ovechkin hit. What the hell was Jagr thinking?
"NZFlyerfan"
It’s a clean hit, minus the poison part.
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by Travis Hughes on Feb 21, 2010 6:09 PM EST up reply actions
sometimes i think in this newest phase of hockey people forget that they’re playing a contact sport, and borderline hits are a part of the game
TAKE THE FALL, ACT HURT, GET INDIGNANT
by CoburnsCuddleBuddy on Feb 21, 2010 6:14 PM EST up reply actions
bet they don’t hit like that in the KHL
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by CoburnsCuddleBuddy on Feb 21, 2010 6:09 PM EST up reply actions
It’s certainly fine to stick around here for the game (preferred actually) but if you wanna jump into the league wide thread at sbnation.com, feel free to.
http://www.sbnation.com/2010/2/21/1320484/usa-vs-canada-game-time-live-thread-olympic-hockey
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I’m gonna stick around here. I don’t want a thread that’s so busy that I can’t pay attention to the game if I want to follow the comments.
True story.
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by Travis Hughes on Feb 21, 2010 7:19 PM EST up reply actions
USA! USA!
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I can’t believe this game is on MSNBC
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I’m just annoyed because I don’t get it in HD.
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by Travis Hughes on Feb 21, 2010 7:36 PM EST up reply actions
Nothing. Automatically takes me to 856.
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by Travis Hughes on Feb 21, 2010 7:43 PM EST up reply actions
…Which is the Comcast Network. Why there’s enough bandwidth for two Comcast Network HD channels, but not enough for one MSNBC HD feed, I don’t understand.
Yep. Stupidity.
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by Travis Hughes on Feb 21, 2010 7:46 PM EST up reply actions
I understand (don’t agree, but understand) the reasoning of why it’s not on NBC. It’s primetime, when they’d want to interrupt or switch during the intermission, then they wouldn’t come back in time or whatever, and they want to put it on a channel where it can be alone. But at least put it on USA so we can watch in HD… MSNBC has an HD feed, too, but we don’t get it in Philadelphia because there’s “not enough bandwidth.”
Mhm, I understand it too. And we’d all be furious if they cut away from live action to show ice dancing or something. But still, it’s annoying. Is that really Comcast’s (sorry, Xfinity) argument?
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by Travis Hughes on Feb 21, 2010 7:39 PM EST up reply actions
Yes. That’s their argument. I asked. They said we’ll all get it real soon in the 800s, though. Some kind of consolation prize.
I just saw your exchange with the guy on Twitter. That’s frustrating.
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by Travis Hughes on Feb 21, 2010 7:43 PM EST up reply actions
Would you rather Team USA win a gold and lose to Canada or beat Canada and get Silver or Bronze, or no medal at all?
Win gold, 110 percent
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by Travis Hughes on Feb 21, 2010 7:49 PM EST up reply actions
USA is pumped up right now. Would love to see the Flyers play with this fire.
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Dual citizenship. He just became an American citizen. Born in Canada.
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by Travis Hughes on Feb 21, 2010 7:55 PM EST up reply actions
HELL YES USA!
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This game has been so awesome.
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Brodeur sucks. They’d be better off with Fleury.
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I am not gonna be happy to welcome TV timeouts back into my life.
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by Ben Rothenberg on Feb 21, 2010 8:03 PM EST reply actions 1 recs
Crosby + Richards = Oil + Water.
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nbcolympics.com
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by Travis Hughes on Feb 21, 2010 8:08 PM EST up reply actions
http://www.nbcolympics.com/video/assetid=ce23e903-3e58-4657-bbc2-92c7ee1d9463.html#live+now+canada+u+s
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by Travis Hughes on Feb 21, 2010 8:08 PM EST up reply actions
Not after this tournament. He’s gonna be burnt out.
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by Travis Hughes on Feb 21, 2010 8:16 PM EST up reply actions
I read that the Sabres are going to start Lalime after the Olympics so that Miller is not burned out for the playoffs.
Patrick Lalime is still in the NHL???
Wow I honestly did not realize that.
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Until they start slipping in the standings, maybe.
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by Travis Hughes on Feb 21, 2010 8:21 PM EST up reply actions
They already have, haven’t they? True, more because of Ottawa’s win streak, but still.
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by Geoff Detweiler on Feb 21, 2010 8:22 PM EST up reply actions
Well aware that I should know the answer to this, but we all know how I feel about the Olympics:
Why is Ryan Miller wearing #39?
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by Geoff Detweiler on Feb 21, 2010 8:18 PM EST reply actions
Thomas wears 30, I guess.
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by Travis Hughes on Feb 21, 2010 8:20 PM EST up reply actions
Yeah, just wondering why Miller can’t be like: “Dude, I’m the starter. I’ll be on the team in 4 years. Let me have my number.”
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by Geoff Detweiler on Feb 21, 2010 8:21 PM EST up reply actions
He wore 39 in college too, so I guess he doesn’t really care.
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by Travis Hughes on Feb 21, 2010 8:23 PM EST up reply actions
ok, just wondering. Wasn’t sure if it was out of respect for some past Olympian, a family member, etc.
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by Geoff Detweiler on Feb 21, 2010 8:24 PM EST up reply actions
Shit.
Playing this whole game in our end MIGHT not work out.
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I’d like one of those timely Laviolette time outs right now
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Let it be known that the entire Rothenberg clan gathered in front of the TV expressed the exact same dismay.
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by Ben Rothenberg on Feb 21, 2010 8:44 PM EST up reply actions
Wow, Richards getting thrown around like a rag doll on that shift.
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Eff him.
For the rest of the week, of course
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by Travis Hughes on Feb 21, 2010 8:56 PM EST up reply actions
I probably will die if either him or Pronger score in this game.
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If either of them get a GWG, especially.
by DragonGirl0583 on Feb 21, 2010 9:00 PM EST up reply actions
Just got home so I’ve only seen like the last 10 minutes, but damn, this is like the textbook definition of a barnburner. Whew!
Canadian collision!
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Maybe we don’t visit the Canucks enough to have a good feel for what they usually play during games?
by DragonGirl0583 on Feb 21, 2010 9:01 PM EST up reply actions
Brodeur has been AWFUL in this game. I love it.
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Pronger
Helping out Team USA. Good work Pronger.
HOLY CRAP
What a sequence. Olympics hockey is decent. I rescind my calling for NHLers to be removed after these Olympics.
Somebody correct me if I’m wrong, but if the NHL withdraws, we end up with NCAA players on team USA (and CHL players on Canada) but the KHL and all the elite leagues in Europe will still send their best players, right?
by DragonGirl0583 on Feb 21, 2010 9:07 PM EST up reply actions
This game has been awesome. Quick whistle at the end of that sequence.
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Wow, I can’t remember the last time I saw that long a stretch of solid hockey without a commercial break….
I will be sad when the NHL resumes and we go back to TV timeouts.
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by Justin F. on Feb 21, 2010 9:12 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Wow…. was there a single shot in that NHL game of the week promo that didn’t include Crosby or Ovie?
This might be the best game I have ever seen.
by You don't have to be sweet, to be good on Feb 21, 2010 9:18 PM EST reply actions
It’s definitely up there.
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by Travis Hughes on Feb 21, 2010 9:21 PM EST up reply actions
Anyone know the calculations on who will face Latvia?
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Man, a goal on this PP would be huge.
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Sheesh, how many times are Doc and/or Edzo going to say “The Captain of the Philadelphia Flyers Mike Richards”?
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Or how many times are they going to mention how Bobby Ryan is from Cherry Hill…
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by Travis Hughes on Feb 21, 2010 9:28 PM EST up reply actions
It’s a Millercle.
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by Travis Hughes on Feb 21, 2010 9:28 PM EST up reply actions
Read it somewhere else, of course
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by Travis Hughes on Feb 21, 2010 9:31 PM EST up reply actions
HAT TRICK!
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Langenbrunner
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I still hate the Devils
But this is like the all-Devils awesome squad between Rafalski, Jamie and Parise.
I cannot believe I am cheering for Jamie Langenbrunner.
by You don't have to be sweet, to be good on Feb 21, 2010 9:33 PM EST reply actions
Eh, it got his skate, but still, a darn good save
by DragonGirl0583 on Feb 21, 2010 9:34 PM EST up reply actions
Dueling chants, very Winter Classic-y
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Major kill here
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by Travis Hughes on Feb 21, 2010 9:38 PM EST up reply actions
Ryan Miller inspires so much calm.
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Ryan Miller, yall.
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Would say that how Nash went to the net is how JVR should go to the net.
That's cool
As long as the US wins it like in the World Juniors.
Come on, guys. We can do this!
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Jesus Christ, what a ridiculous finish here.
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That may have been the best empty netter ever.
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Oh my god….. so the USA is either the 1 or 2 seed depending on the outcome of the Finland/Sweden game?
To date, the only SI cover with no caption or headline.
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by Travis Hughes on Feb 21, 2010 10:01 PM EST up reply actions
So
One of the most awesomest hockey games ever?
I vote yes for that. And the lack of breaks to kill the momentum and energy made it all the better.
by DragonGirl0583 on Feb 21, 2010 10:06 PM EST up reply actions
/laughs
Did he get in trouble for causing one of the goals against?
by DragonGirl0583 on Feb 21, 2010 10:08 PM EST up reply actions
He is not capable of keeping up with that pace. He is on the down side and should not have been on this team. Ours neither
Yup. Pronger has been absolutely terrible for the Flyers.
From Geoff’s article on Goals For/Against per 60 Minutes:
Chris Pronger is 13th in the NHL in [GAON/60], but when you look at Gabe’s Qualcomp stat, this number becomes even more impressive. Of the 12 players with a lower GAON/60, only two are facing above average competition (0.000). Further, Pronger’s 0.120 nearly doubles the second highest qualcomp in the 12 players ahead of him: 0.066. If that doesn’t compute, Pronger is facing the 14th toughest competition among all NHL defensemen with 20 games played, and he’s allowing the 13th fewest goals against. Quite the impressive feat.
Do you see what happens when you find a stranger in the Alps?
I couldn’t give a wet fart about all these GVT’s and Abe Vugoda ratings. When facing faster teams and players the guy seems a step behind. I guess numbers are an illusion. We are a bad three game set away from being out of the playoffs as much as we are in. He should not have been in the Olympics over Mike Green.
Uh...
Not to go all Mario on you, but:
When facing faster teams and players [Pronger] seems a step behind. I guess numbers are an illusion.
So… it appears as if Pronger is a step behind some of the fastest players in the league. Therefore, you suppose the fact that so few even-strength goals are scored against the Flyers while Pronger is on the ice is somehow deceptive? Since advanced hockey stats/metrics mean nothing to you, Pronger’s solid defensive performance means nothing to you… because he’s not fast? Come on now.
We are a bad three game set away from being out of the playoffs as much as we are in.
True, but the same could be said for roughly half of the Eastern Conference. Our borderline playoff/non-playoff situation is not Chris Pronger’s fault.
He should not have been in the Olympics over Mike Green.
Probably not, but you want to have some experience back there.
Do you see what happens when you find a stranger in the Alps?
He is still chasing Evander Kane up Broad Street, but he is not the whole problem and I do appreciate defensive performances. I just don’t think he is in his prime anymore. Actually experience isn’t all it is cracked up to be, USA roster proving that. I don’t want to be all Geoff Detweiler back to your MarioD just to be argumentative, but bringing in another aging better days behind him defensemen is the bad business model I have problems with in the management of this organization.
Well that was fun.
I felt a twinge of sadness for Pronger’s bad game, but gleefully remembered that Crosby had a bad game too (aside from that lucky PP goal).
I like U S and A, do you like U S and A?

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Meh. Screw pronger. He’s the enemy for two weeks.
by JasonB on Feb 21, 2010 10:11 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
Just unbelievable. The atmosphere, the passion those guys played with… Unreal. Ryan miller is probably the best player in this tourney right now.
by JasonB on Feb 21, 2010 10:10 PM EST via mobile reply actions
You watching MSNBC still? Too funny.
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by Travis Hughes on Feb 21, 2010 10:14 PM EST up reply actions
Yeah, I want to hear from JR and Bettman.
by Ben Feldman on Feb 21, 2010 10:16 PM EST up reply actions
So who has to win Finland vs. Sweden for the USA team to be #1 seed?
by StarbladeMKIII on Feb 21, 2010 10:32 PM EST reply actions
If Finland wins in regulation, they are #1.
If Sweden wins in regulation by 4 goals or less, USA is #1.
If Sweden wins in regulation by 6 goals or more, Sweden is #1.
If Sweden wins in regulation by 5 goals, it will depend on the number of goals they score. If win 5-0, 6-1, 7-2, USA is #1. If they win 8-3, 9-4, 10-5, or any other score higher score where the goal differential is 5, Sweden is #1.
If the game goes to OT, USA is #1.
I think that’s right.
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The best part of this night
Is that Sweden versus Finland is still looming.
Wish it wasn’t so damn late though.
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by Travis Hughes on Feb 21, 2010 11:37 PM EST up reply actions
To reiterate what everyone else has said:
Probably one of the best games I have ever watched. Ryan Miller survived the Canadian Firing Squad and got the W
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by CoburnsCuddleBuddy on Feb 22, 2010 12:21 AM EST reply actions
I want to see the Latvians play Sweden, so please crush them, Timmo.
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by Ben Rothenberg on Feb 22, 2010 12:53 AM EST reply actions
Backstrom looks like a chunky middle schooler.
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Boy did Pitkanen take a blatant cheap shot there. Elbow to the face.
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Just got a picture of that. Fanshot coming.
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by Ben Rothenberg on Feb 22, 2010 1:29 AM EST up reply actions
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If Italy is the boot and Spain, and Portugal are the face I looks like Scandinavia is going to screw Europe in the…..
by Prometheus74 on Feb 22, 2010 2:15 AM EST up reply actions
Sweden looks good. Glad the US (or Latvia) won’t be running into them for a while.
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We get to take advantage of the easy road that was set up for the Canadians, and they have to face Russia
by Prometheus74 on Feb 22, 2010 2:18 AM EST up reply actions
We play Belarus/Switzerland and shall we advance to the semifinals, we would play Finland/Czech Republic/Latvia.
I’ll take that road.
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by DragonGirl0583 on Feb 22, 2010 2:23 AM EST up reply actions
but its unfolding just as I have dreamed
by Prometheus74 on Feb 22, 2010 2:27 AM EST up reply actions
Your dream is working out just fine by me
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