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Philadelphia puts Danny Syvret on waivers.

-- TSN's Bob McKenzie on Twitter

Personally, I was kind of expecting this to happen earlier in the break, but I guess if he's still rehabbing it wouldn't really matter.

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Personally, I was kind of expecting this to happen months ago

by Prometheus74 on Feb 28, 2010 1:07 PM EST reply actions  

Panaccio says that Ryan Parent has been activated.

by Mitchell Green on Feb 28, 2010 1:29 PM EST reply actions  

If parent can stay healthy, that’s a huge gain for us. I like bartulis and all but Parent is a much better defender.

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by JpH89 on Feb 28, 2010 2:26 PM EST via mobile up reply actions  

I don’t believe they were allowed to waive him until he was healthy. I don’t know where I read that in the CBA, but its in my memory.

by MarioD on Feb 28, 2010 9:48 PM EST reply actions  

That’s something I was told when asking about why Rathje wasn’t waived to get his LTIR number off the cap. I’m still not positive why he couldn’t be “sent down” before the season (and before being designated LTIR), but that’s moot in 2 months anyway. So, that makes perfect sense.

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by Geoff Detweiler on Feb 28, 2010 10:19 PM EST up reply actions  

I wonder if Rathje had a NMC?

by stubborne on Mar 1, 2010 11:17 AM EST up reply actions  

It’s possible that Syvret can be sent to the AHL while injured because he has played less than 10 games since the last time he cleared waivers. He was recalled on December 27th, and played in 8 games before injuring his shoulder. Here’s the passage from the CBA:

13.6 Injured Player Loan to Minor Leagues. A Player who is otherwise required to
clear Regular Waivers and who is injured while on an NHL roster can be placed on
Regular Waivers and be Loaned to a minor league club prior to appropriate medical
clearance being granted only if the Player was on NHL Recall at the time of injury and
has not played ten (10) NHL Games (cumulat ive) or remained on the NHL roster for
thirty (30) days (cumulat ive) since his Recall. Player shall receive his Paragraph 1 NHL
Salary and benefits until appropriate medical clearance is granted. All other Players may
not be Loaned unt il appropriate medical clearance is granted.

The thirty days part is sketchy because I don’t know how they count the days of the Olympic break, and it was right around the 30 day mark when the Olympic break started. That could completely nullify the above passage, but I’m having trouble figuring out which days to count and which ones not to count.

by DragonGirl0583 on Feb 28, 2010 10:43 PM EST up reply actions  

They do count the Olympic break. It is stated specifically that if a player got healthy from LTIR during a roster freeze, the team must immediately get under the cap anyway.

Syvret doesn’t fit that exception.

by MarioD on Mar 1, 2010 10:51 AM EST up reply actions  

Got it, I wasn’t able to figure out that part out. That’s the only section I know of that would give them a provision allowing them to do it, so now I’m just as confused as everybody else.

by DragonGirl0583 on Mar 1, 2010 10:57 AM EST up reply actions  

I think 13.9 might work
13.9 Bona Fide Long-Term Injury/Illness Exception Conditioning Loan. A Player
who is on the Bona Fide Long-Term Injury/Illness Exception as set forth in Article 50
may, with his consent, during the term of such Bona Fide Long-Term Injury/Illness
Exception (but in no event during the first fourteen (14) calendar days and six (6) NHL
Games), be Loaned on a Conditioning Loan (the “Bona Fide Long-Term Injury/Illness
Exception Conditioning Loan”) for a period not to exceed up to the longer of six (6) days
and three (3) games, solely for the purpose of determining whether the Player is fit to
play. If the Club determines that it needs more time to assess the Player’s fitness to play,
the Club may file a written request by facsimile with the Commissioner’s Office, with a
copy to the NHLPA, in accordance with Exhibit 3 hereof, to extend the Loan for an
additional two (2) games. The Commissioner, upon good cause, may approve the onetime
extension. The Commissioner’s approval shall not be unreasonably withheld. A
Player on a Bona Fide Long-Term Injury/Illness Exception Conditioning Loan will
continue to be listed on Injured Reserve and will not count against the Club’s 23-man
roster limit. The Club’s Bona Fide Long-Term Injury/Illness Exception will continue
until the Conditioning Loan ends, and his Paragraph 1 NHL Salary and Bonuses will
continue to count against the Club’s Upper Limit and the Players’ Share during such time.
The Commissioner may take whatever steps he deems necessary to investigate the
circumstances under which a Player is placed on a Bona Fide Long-Term Injury/Illness
Conditioning Loan. If he has reason to believe or determines that the Club has used the
Bona Fide Long-Term Injury/Illness Conditioning Loan to evade Re-Entry Waivers or
otherwise to Circumvent any provision of this Agreement, he may take other disciplinary
action against the Club as he deems appropriate. A Bona Fide Long-Term Injury/Illness
Conditioning Loan may be extended on one occasion. This procedure can only be used
once during each period of time that the Player is on a Bona Fide Long-Term Injury
Exception.

It would only get Syvret off the roster for six days, but that might be long enough to do the necessary deals, and it would give the team a chance to see if he can be effective at the AHL level.

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I'll be right there
I'll never leave
And all I ask of you is
Believe"

by The Dark on Mar 1, 2010 1:01 PM EST up reply actions  

But I thought 13.9 didn’t go through the waiver process? I thought actual conditioning stints circumvented the waiver system since it was a player you had no intention of leaving in the AHL, but if you want to keep a player in the AHL then you have to go through regular waivers. Oy, the CBA is pain to understand.

by DragonGirl0583 on Mar 1, 2010 1:29 PM EST up reply actions  

You’re probably right. It’s under “Waivers and Loans of Players to Minor League Clubs,” which was the section I was scanning through, but it probably counts as a loan, not a waiver.

Now I have no clue either.

"When you make your final stand
I'll be right there
I'll never leave
And all I ask of you is
Believe"

by The Dark on Mar 1, 2010 1:44 PM EST up reply actions  

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