Game 67, Preview and Game Thread: Chicago Blackhawks at Philadelphia Flyers
by Travis Hughes on Mar 13, 2010 12:30 PM EST
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PrintChicago Blackhawks at Philadelphia Flyers, Mar 13, 2010 1:00 PM EST
#2 Chicago Blackhawks (44-17-5, 93 pts) at #6 Philadelphia Flyers (35-27-4, 74 pts)
Wachovia Center - 1:00 PM ET - Philadelphia, PA
TV: CSN Philly HD, WGN HD
Radio: 610 WIP, XM 205
This is the open game thread.
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Peter Laviolette was visibly upset with the way the Flyers played against Boston on Thursday night, so heading into today's game against one of the most dynamic teams in the league, he's decided to change things up a bit.
Three new lines. Some players benched. Some inserted into the lineup. But, go figure, same goaltender.
There are two schools of thought here: you can start Leighton because you want to play the guy who isn't rusty against the high-flying Hawks. That's fair, if Boucher didn't play on Thursday night. He played almost a full period, enough to shake off the rust. He deserves a shot, and he'll likely get it on Sunday against the Rangers. He should've had that shot today.
But anyway, since it's not happening let's talk about the other lineup changes. Arron Asham sits, Ville Leino is in. The second and third lines are completely blown up, while the top line of Dan Carcillo, Mike Richards and Simon Gagne will be the same. That makes sense, really, since they were the only trio to have a decent game on Thursday.
Pssst, don't tell the Daily News that, though.
Simon Gagne moved to Mike Richards' line with Dan Carcillo.
Do'h.
Laviolette spoke a lot on Friday about getting back to the basics, and playing with unfamiliar partners is a good way of doing so. The biggest concern is that experimenting in that department against one of the elite teams in the NHL is a dangerous risk.
Chicago is good defensively and obviously potent offensively. The Flyers offense will have to, you know, do everything the opposite of Thursday. They'll have to attack the puck in the corner, show some desire to actually win a puck battle, and just cross the blue line with some energy. The most important thing, however, is that they have to do everything in their power not to be the Blackhawks. They're not a high-flying, pass-the-puck-around-as-much-as-they-can-for-a-pretty-goal team, so they shouldn't try to act like one. Again, it's just keeping things basic.
Defensively, all six guys need to be better tonight, because none of them were particularly good on Thursday. There's a ton of room for improvement and against these Blackhawks, it better come within the first five seconds of the game today.
This won't be an easy game, and if the Flyers don't show up from the get go, it's going to be an ugly one. In that case, remember that the Phils are on channel 17.
After the jump, line combos, starting goaltenders, and a few questions to answer.
lines, goalies, questions coming shortly... wanted to get this up asap because my internet is touchy today.
Questions to Answer:
1. Does Michael Leighton bounce back after a rough Thursday?
2. Does everybody else bounce back after a rough Thursday?
3. Will Scott Hartnell continue to be snakebitten and useless?
4. Has the Olympic bubble burst yet, or will Patrick Kane get any positive reception from the American Flyers fans?
5. Over or under eight total goals? These aren't teams that are very fond of defense...
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Here’s a video link.. but it’s a Chicago feed, which means..Edzo. ew.
http://www.justin.tv/shlimebawx
Oh, This is bound to be good
You can't, but you thought that You could
They’re letting the Hawks wear their retro 3rd jerseys…i.e. their ugly jerseys.
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by KreiderDesigns on Mar 13, 2010 1:12 PM EST up reply actions
But shouldn’t we wear our thirds (fourths?) then too?
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by Ben Rothenberg on Mar 13, 2010 1:13 PM EST up reply actions
Exactly. That’d be hot.
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by Ben Rothenberg on Mar 13, 2010 1:15 PM EST up reply actions
Yeah it would make more sense to wear our Winter Classic ones. I heard those will be our away jerseys next year. Did anyone hear this too?
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by KreiderDesigns on Mar 13, 2010 1:15 PM EST up reply actions
If we’re gonna go white, why not Classics?
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do the flyers play to their level of competition?
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I thought it made sense. All he had available was a bad backhand.
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by Ben Rothenberg on Mar 13, 2010 1:21 PM EST up reply actions
Big hit by Campbell on Powe. I still hate Campbell for crushing Umberger in the Playoffs 4 years ago. Whatever, Campbell is still horribly overrated.
Wow, that was nice. Pretty lucky tho.
by Mitchell Green on Mar 13, 2010 1:28 PM EST up reply actions
Tell that to Alex Burrows. Bet ya he’d agree . . .
by Mitchell Green on Mar 13, 2010 1:28 PM EST up reply actions
Flyers Fan Poll
Do we hate the ’Hawks? Like them? Respect them? Hate the bandwagon fans or happy thier city finally has a decent team for the ones that stuck through all those years?
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meh. no real history comes to mind, although chelios did play for them.
but so did roenick.
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I’m not sure the ratio of bandwagon fans to true fans is as large as it is in, say, Washington. “Dollar Bill” Wirtz was awful. No home games on TV, was cheap, etc. Hard to be a fan. Rocky Wirtz has done a great job bringing the organization into the 21st century, and so the folks who couldn’t stand giving him their money a few years ago are back. But there’s definitely some sort of bandwagonry.
They are like Pittsburgh and Washington. They get all this support now that they are winning thanks to sucking for numerous years and getting Toews and Kane. Its bull!
by Mitchell Green on Mar 13, 2010 1:31 PM EST up reply actions
Hartnell is awful
guy just sucks he cant pass he cant skate he cant do a damn thing right
by EaglesFanatic80 on Mar 13, 2010 1:32 PM EST reply actions
he did save a goal there in front of the net.
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well he turned it over
for Chicago to spend all that time in the zone he better save a goal
by EaglesFanatic80 on Mar 13, 2010 1:36 PM EST up reply actions
Its just right now. He has shown that he can play, especially as a power forward. He just has no confidence and forcing everything.
by Mitchell Green on Mar 13, 2010 1:34 PM EST up reply actions
someone else has probably mentioned this recently, but coburn has been quietly improving IMHO and is approaching his pre-injury form
Ya, I agree. He hasn’t been spectacular but I think a solid playoffs would do a lot for him right now. I am not ready to give up on him yet.
by Mitchell Green on Mar 13, 2010 1:35 PM EST up reply actions
This powerplay isnt really getting anything set up. I think it’s mostly Chicago’s doing, though.
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This storm is seriously cramping my style today.
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Well, nothing is happening out there…
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by Ben Rothenberg on Mar 13, 2010 2:10 PM EST up reply actions
Because he goes to the front of the net…. we get it, you don’t like Hartnell, but it gets annoying when you post something negative of him every time you see him on the ice.
Well
if he wasn’t doing something negative every time he was on the ice I would be quiet
by EaglesFanatic80 on Mar 13, 2010 2:17 PM EST up reply actions
Sorry
just don’t see him helping this team…I would say alot of people in Philly agree as he was beeing booed earlier in the game…I want the guy to snap out of it trust me…if he does it makes us much more dangerous…I think a demotion or a few healthy scratches would help him out!
by EaglesFanatic80 on Mar 13, 2010 2:20 PM EST up reply actions
Yeah I hear you… we’re definitely not getting our 4.2m out of him this year. I thought a benching might have helped as well, but I guess Laviolette thinks otherwise by benching Asham instead.
Yeah
sorry man my negativity is just passion…I’m the same way about the Eagles
by EaglesFanatic80 on Mar 13, 2010 2:44 PM EST up reply actions
I’m thoroughly enjoying this game despite the lack of scoring.
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Great shift
by Hartnell and crew…there you go =)
by EaglesFanatic80 on Mar 13, 2010 2:27 PM EST reply actions
This. Oh my God.
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by Travis Hughes on Mar 13, 2010 2:31 PM EST up reply actions
STOP PASSING, START SHOOTING!
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That 3-on-1 was set up perfectly, just didn’t execute that final pass. Was it deflected by the defenseman?
"I did my walk of shame this morning and everyone was so much nicer," she said. "People were inviting me to parties at 9 a.m."
Yeah, that’s what it was. Still, need more shots than that overall.
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by Travis Hughes on Mar 13, 2010 2:34 PM EST up reply actions
That was a pretty awesome sequence. We should’ve scored like seven times.
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BS call against Briere there. Shoulda been coincidentals or nada.
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Exactly.
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by Ben Rothenberg on Mar 13, 2010 2:54 PM EST up reply actions
No, that was a good play. He held the puck so the Flyers maintained possession. Very smart.
by Mitchell Green on Mar 13, 2010 2:59 PM EST up reply actions
And the blind pass to the point was good
by EaglesFanatic80 on Mar 13, 2010 3:02 PM EST up reply actions
I knew you were gonna bring that up. I don’t really know how you fault a guy for playing the puck to the slot i.w.i the most dangerous place in the offensive zone. If someone had of been there it would have been a great scoring chance.
by Mitchell Green on Mar 13, 2010 3:04 PM EST up reply actions
If somebody offered OT, I’d take it happily at this point.
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That would mean 5 full mins of 4 on 4!
by Mitchell Green on Mar 13, 2010 3:06 PM EST up reply actions
It was really smart for him to one time that pass. Leights really didn’t see the shot bc it was so quick.
by Mitchell Green on Mar 13, 2010 3:12 PM EST up reply actions
Duncan Keith
man I wish the Flyers would have gotten him
by EaglesFanatic80 on Mar 13, 2010 3:15 PM EST reply actions
OMG HARTNELL?!??!?!?!?!?!
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Leighton with the assist. Offensive dynamo.
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Hopefully that heartbreaker will be FOR us.
Oh, This is bound to be good
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by jello44 on Mar 13, 2010 3:18 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Why is Laperriere out there?
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YESSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSs
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Btw, overtime doesn’t sound so awesome now…
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by Ben Rothenberg on Mar 13, 2010 3:20 PM EST reply actions 1 recs
Lavio!
Showin’ some emotion! Jumpin’ up and smiling. That’s what I like to see!
The Hawks fans hearts are like Huet’s stick…shattered!
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Holy shit that was awesome
I’m a devils fan (don’t hurt me), but that was a GREAT finish.
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When there's a WILL there's a WAY
Oh ya, just as a hockey fan, that was amazing!
by Mitchell Green on Mar 13, 2010 3:22 PM EST up reply actions
The ironic part about that was
The whole time the flyers were forcing passes, and getting them intercepted, and then the game is won on a beautiful pass.
Never assume skill at bouncing a ball makes you smarter than the guy who built the court.
When there's a WILL there's a WAY
Loudest I ever heard thus stadium. Wow best game I’ve ever been to.
"NO HONOR"
"We will steal the show, jolly Rogers go, we are wolves of the sea."
by JpH89 on Mar 13, 2010 3:22 PM EST via mobile reply actions
Haha, there’s an understatement…
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by Ben Rothenberg on Mar 13, 2010 4:57 PM EST up reply actions
I bash Hartnell
but that was the best 2 minutes of hockey I have seen from him this season…great finish by him
by EaglesFanatic80 on Mar 13, 2010 3:25 PM EST reply actions
Now I get to hit the Chicago bars and get yelled at by faux-Irish assholes who became Hawks fans the moment Kaner was drafted. Suck it, Wrigleyville douchebags, I’m wearing orange; I was raised Protestant, but more importantly, I was raised a Flyers fan.
Love it dude! Have fun and rep that orange proud!
by Mitchell Green on Mar 13, 2010 3:29 PM EST up reply actions
This type of win
can propel this team to another level…very exciting game this should start a nice win streak
by EaglesFanatic80 on Mar 13, 2010 3:27 PM EST reply actions
Click here (but don’t go troll, just laugh)
http://www.secondcityhockey.com/2010/3/13/1371355/its-too-early-it-always-has-been#32499707
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Aww that’s cute, they used a picture of a Radio Flyer, that’s so clever.
Oh, This is bound to be good
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Snider was in the hallway to the locker room, shaking the players’ hands. Regardless of whether or not he’s “stuck in the ’70s,” he’s still awesome.
Idk, the have had the Pens number all year. I’d love to see the Pens play the Devs in the first round bc the Devs would probably win
by Mitchell Green on Mar 13, 2010 3:53 PM EST up reply actions
I really wanna see the replay of Prongers goal again and watch Huet two hand his stick off the crossbar! HILARIOUS!
The video highlights are up on NHL.com. Too bad they took the highlights from the Hawks’ feed though.
I’ll be accepting the Hartnell apologies on Monday.
“He’s a pussy”
“He should be benched”
Those individuals are looking mighty stupid right now
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by CoburnsCuddleBuddy on Mar 13, 2010 3:59 PM EST reply actions 1 recs
alright hartnell did come thru today, but honestly i can’t respect you because u like coburn who is absolute garbage just saying
Coburn absolute garbage? Guy has a down year and you’re burying him? If you think he’s absolute garbage, then the Flyers would be LUCKY to get ANYTHING for this guy.
Oh wait…it seems that’s not the case. It seems that a defenseman of his size, mobility, and hands is perfect for this NHL. Just because a player has a bad year, that doesn’t mean he’s absolute garbage. You are wrong, and in this case, the whole league believes you’re wrong too
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by CoburnsCuddleBuddy on Mar 13, 2010 4:12 PM EST up reply actions
I was the first to say
he played a great Third period…like I always said I just want the guy to snap out of it…he had alot of extra energy once he scored and was flying all over the ice…I also give him a ton of credit on the game winner…hopefully this carries over
by EaglesFanatic80 on Mar 13, 2010 4:07 PM EST up reply actions
Yeah I’m just busting balls. He’s had a down year, but talent wise he’s one of those players that you have to wait out. They will have slumps, but when they break those slumps they are a noticeably better player
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by CoburnsCuddleBuddy on Mar 13, 2010 4:09 PM EST up reply actions
He certainly can catch fire
imagine the Flyers with Hartnell and Gagne both on fire at the same time…very dangerous…he is a very streaky player…like I said I hope this is him turning a new leaf…and this type of win can bring this team alot closer…perfect timing IMO
by EaglesFanatic80 on Mar 13, 2010 4:12 PM EST up reply actions
And the thing about Hartnell is that at least he brings something to the table if he isn’t scoring. He mucks it up and grinds and gets feisty in front of the net. You can’t say that about a lot of players. Thats why its even more frustrating when guys like Briere, Carter and Gagne don’t score.
by Mitchell Green on Mar 13, 2010 4:13 PM EST up reply actions
Well
he does muck it up…but honestly his getting in front of the net has been drawing dumb penalties and stuff…listen like I said before I want the guy to be the player that he can be..and he has a ton of potential…he is a crucial part of this hockey team..my bashing of him is passion for the Flyers and for HIM to break out of it..I know what he can do for this team…he has just been in a 2 month drought which is very long and frustrating for both the fans and definitely for Hartnell…glad he shut me up…let him to continue to shut me up now
by EaglesFanatic80 on Mar 13, 2010 4:29 PM EST up reply actions
My “Hartnell’s a pussy” comment was meant as a half-joke because of the admittedly girly way he fixed his hair before losing a fight and was not intended to be taken as seriously as it was.
I will say that the last 3 minutes of that game were his best 3 minutes of the year. How he carries his new-found momentum into future games will determine whether or not he should be benched. Three great minutes does not change the fact that he has been having an awful year. Every blind squirrel can find a nut. If he can keep play the rest of the year like he played in those last three minutes, the Flyers will be a much better team. I am hoping this is just the start of something great for him.
Proudly supporting a Flyers team with "no honor".
just bustin balls man. I wanted to see what it felt like to be MarioD arriving at the end of the game and saying “I Told you so”
TAKE THE FALL, ACT HURT, GET INDIGNANT
by CoburnsCuddleBuddy on Mar 13, 2010 4:13 PM EST up reply actions
Recap is up, take the party thataway.
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by Ben Rothenberg on Mar 13, 2010 4:20 PM EST up reply actions
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