Game 68, Preview and Game Thread: Philadelphia Flyers at New York Rangers
by Travis Hughes on Mar 14, 2010 2:30 PM EDT
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Philadelphia Flyers at New York Rangers, Mar 14, 2010 3:00 PM EDT
#6 Philadelphia Flyers (36-27-4, 76 pts) at #9 New York Rangers (30-29-9, 69 pts)
Madison Square Garden - 3:00 PM ET - New York, NY
TV: CSN Philly HD, MSG HD
Radio: 610 WIP, XM 204
This is the open game thread.
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Flyers Line Combinations
Gagne - Richards - Carcillo
Briere - Giroux- Hartnell
van Riemsdyk - Carter - Leino
Powe - Betts - Laperriere
Pronger - Carle
Timonen - Krajicek
Parent - Coburn
Laviolette wouldn't tip his hand on any lineup changes from yesterday, saying that 'everyone will take warmups.' No ****, man.
New York Line Combinations
Prospal - Jokinen - Gaborik
Dubinsky - Anisimov - Callahan
Prust/Avery - Christensen - Drury
Shelley - Boyle - Lisin/Avery
Staal - Rozsival
Del Zotto - Girardi
Redden (lol) - Gilroy
Not sure where Avery fits in there, but my guess is he replaces Prust or Lisin.
Starting Goaltenders
Questions to Answer
- Do emotions actually spill over today in the aftermath of the Gaborik incident, or do the Rangers realize that they should've done something weeks ago and that the statute of limitations is clearly up on this 'offense'?
- Can Henrik Lundqvist keep his team in this game today?
- All joking about the Rangers impotence aside, their top line of Gaborik, Jokinen and Prospal can actually put some pucks in the net. Can the Flyers successfully shut them down?
- Will Carcillo fight Shelley?
- Can Michael Leighton duplicate his stellar Saturday performance?
Today's game is on CSN Philly and 610 WIP. New York sucks. Join us here for the in-game discussion, and as always, LET'S GO FLYERS!
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Yeah, I think it is.
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by Travis Hughes on Mar 14, 2010 2:57 PM EDT up reply actions
Safari ftw muahahahahaha!!!!!! Ipod touches rule.
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by Travis Hughes on Mar 14, 2010 3:11 PM EDT up reply actions
The Caps are utterly unwatchable. Here I am enjoying them losing 3-0, and then they score three goals in about two minutes to tie it. Boo.
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Betcha Chicago wins it with two seconds left..
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by Travis Hughes on Mar 14, 2010 2:57 PM EDT up reply actions
God I hope so.
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by Ben Rothenberg on Mar 14, 2010 2:58 PM EDT up reply actions
I am SO confused by the plot of this Blues-Penguins commercial. Anyone else see it?
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Um, Cote is playing today. Well, Cote is on the bench for 58 minutes today.
Asham in, Leino and Powe scratched.
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Why on earth would someone scratch Leino and dress Cote?
by edbro on Mar 14, 2010 3:08 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Powe must be heart. That’s the only possible explanation.
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by Ben Rothenberg on Mar 14, 2010 3:09 PM EDT up reply actions
*hurt, that wasn’t even close.
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by Ben Rothenberg on Mar 14, 2010 3:09 PM EDT up reply actions
Heh, ya think?
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by Travis Hughes on Mar 14, 2010 3:07 PM EDT up reply actions
Everybody see AO showing off his reckless side again…?
http://www.sbnation.com/2010/3/14/1372447/ovechkin-tossed-from-game-after
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by jello44 on Mar 14, 2010 3:11 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
I got the DVR going for this one while I’m doing school work and now I’ve spoiled the fact that I’m going to be watching it later without knowing what’s going on.
Good for Briere, though. At least he’s bringing that cost per goal of his down a bit.
Anyway, I really hope someone lights up Avery in the neutral zone or squares off with him and blasts him good.
The cheap play is gonna get them early, it seems. Keep it coming, Rangers.
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Suck it, Rangers. 1-0. BRIERE.
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Early PECO, against this guy.
http://olkaakunnolla.blogspot.com/2008/05/how-to-draw-olli-jokinen.html
And they score. I like this.
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Appropriate, eh?
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by Ben Rothenberg on Mar 14, 2010 3:15 PM EDT up reply actions
Cote already with two shifts!
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Must be some kinda record
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by Travis Hughes on Mar 14, 2010 3:17 PM EDT up reply actions
GAH
I need a feed. I’m tired of missing games b/c I have Dtv.
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by Travis Hughes on Mar 14, 2010 3:18 PM EDT up reply actions
Thanks dude.
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Lundqvist looks like hell.
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Better get another soon before he settles.
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by Ben Rothenberg on Mar 14, 2010 3:19 PM EDT up reply actions
Bad penalty
and takes Lappy off the ice
by EaglesFanatic80 on Mar 14, 2010 3:20 PM EDT reply actions
No penalty, woo.
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nice
thought they called a high stick
by EaglesFanatic80 on Mar 14, 2010 3:22 PM EDT up reply actions
Right call. Can you really high stick when you’re falling onto your back?
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by Ben Rothenberg on Mar 14, 2010 3:22 PM EDT up reply actions
damn, I missed it.
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by Travis Hughes on Mar 14, 2010 3:23 PM EDT up reply actions
Or at least some ridiculous whiplash exaggeration.
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by Ben Rothenberg on Mar 14, 2010 3:23 PM EDT up reply actions
Commotion in front of the door delayed Asham getting out on time.
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I want those two seconds tacked on at the end of the period via stoppage time.
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by Travis Hughes on Mar 14, 2010 3:28 PM EDT up reply actions
They better not strike, although I can totally understand why the players would strike in this situation.
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by Travis Hughes on Mar 14, 2010 3:31 PM EDT up reply actions
That would a really bad move on the players part….if they want MLS to take off. I don’t think they know how that’ll go with the public in a recession.
A strike would ultimately kill MLS, and perhaps the concept of professional soccer in America. But I do see where the players are coming from. At the same time, to have even limited free agency might require that MLS’ entire organizational structure be changed. Cause right now all the teams are technically owned by the MLS and contracts signed with and paid for by the MLS, etc. That structure is what has allowed MLS to survive until now, but I do think it’s time for the training wheels to come off, so to speak. Dunno if all that change can be finalized and accomplished in a week or so though.
Exactly what you said. Essentially, the players are screwed either way.
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by Travis Hughes on Mar 14, 2010 3:37 PM EDT up reply actions
Yeah, they might well never come back.
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by Ben Rothenberg on Mar 14, 2010 3:36 PM EDT up reply actions
Loving the blocked shots
guys are definitely putting the body on the line since that Bruins game
by EaglesFanatic80 on Mar 14, 2010 3:28 PM EDT reply actions
Leighton is playing! Laavy needs a bitch slap. A butterfly goalie slams the head of his femur
" into the cup of his hip joint with force akin to an Olympic weightlifter performing a clean and jerk, this according to research by McGill University " This won’t necessarily tear the labrum unless your one of the 10-12 % of the pop. who has an oblated sphere for the head of the femur, but nonetheless it can still can cause other problems….that’s a lot of force on the hip which butterfliers don’t feel until it something bad happens because there’s no nerve ending in the labrum. Leighton needs rest even if he feels great. Were not in the play-offs. Boucher should be in goal, this why we have a back-up.
That’s really interesting.
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by Travis Hughes on Mar 14, 2010 3:31 PM EDT up reply actions
Intermission reading. Its not very in depth but it gives you an idea. I keep it posted in my room to give me motivation to do my stretches every night.
"NZFlyerfan"
Here’s a link…I was going to do a fan post with the link if that’s okay. As someone who suffers from idiopathetic dibilitating, life altering hip condition I think it’s important to know esp. if your a goalie or have a kid whose a goalie. I’m wondering if my stituation is similar as the defective femur head in lieu of sports injuries is a recent discovery. But hip issues are important in hockey in general because of the shearing forces your hips undergo to when skating.
By all means, please do a FanPost.
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by Travis Hughes on Mar 14, 2010 3:48 PM EDT up reply actions
Seriously
They’re going to drive Leighton right into the ground. I hope I’m wrong here, but at this rate they’ll ride him right into the ground and then when the playoffs come around and there are mistakes made and goals given up everyone will be all over him. If that happens, they should be all over Laavy for not being smart with his goalies.
The fact that he barely played to start the season helps though.
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by Travis Hughes on Mar 14, 2010 3:35 PM EDT up reply actions
I dont think its wise to treat him like a rented mule
However even if we are overworking him I feel better with him and Boosh as backup than the situation we were in last year.
by Prometheus74 on Mar 14, 2010 3:40 PM EDT up reply actions
Travis….I totally dig that, but everyone’s body has their limits. On top of that, what does that say the organization feels about what they have in Boosh? Boosh is going to have jump in and steal a few for us down the stretch (at least common sense would say that would be the case). Leighton will need some rest eventually and if he doesn’t get it, we’ll have played with fire when it comes to our goaltending in the playoffs.
No, I totally agree with you. I’m mostly playing devil’s advocate.
Although I would start Leighton today and probably start Boosh against Nashville or Dallas.
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by Travis Hughes on Mar 14, 2010 3:48 PM EDT up reply actions
Is anybody else just not afraid of the Rangers? I’m just… not, even when they’re pressuring.
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Coatesy as play-by-play would be something. “You see there, uhh, Griere’s right there and he scores. Branny’s shot right there, absolutely spectacular.”
hahaha, brilliant.
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by Travis Hughes on Mar 14, 2010 3:35 PM EDT up reply actions
hartnell draws the penalty
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Great hustle by Hartnell there.
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Not a terrible PP, really.
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Shots 5-4 after a period. Yawn.
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Maybe his one game on national tv went to his head and he’s asking for a pay raise.
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by KreiderDesigns on Mar 14, 2010 3:49 PM EDT up reply actions
Todays reason might be du to the travel difficulties they experienced last night
by Prometheus74 on Mar 14, 2010 3:53 PM EDT up reply actions
hahaha, so true.
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by Travis Hughes on Mar 14, 2010 3:53 PM EDT up reply actions
Probably a kick, but an A for effort.
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by Ben Rothenberg on Mar 14, 2010 4:02 PM EDT up reply actions
Cote doing useful things!
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Damnit.
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Rebound control
That’s the only thing that worries me about Professor Leighton.
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He had no real chance to control that, he barely saw it.
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by Ben Rothenberg on Mar 14, 2010 4:05 PM EDT up reply actions
That one was tough yeah, retracted, but we’ve seen him let rebounds go loose before.
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by KreiderDesigns on Mar 14, 2010 4:06 PM EDT up reply actions
Garbage goal for a garbage player.
And then he boards Carle.
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Word choice.
??
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by KreiderDesigns on Mar 14, 2010 4:04 PM EDT up reply actions
Does Chris Pronger have to choke a bitch?
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WEAK call, that was nothing.
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FUCK
2-1 Rangers
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Leighton needs to give Drury a shot to the pills when he’s standing there uncontested.
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Bad calls.
is it just me or does it seem like every time we get a borderline penalty we get scored on in the ensuing powerplay?
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Seems like it lately. Having trouble shaking off the bad ones.
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by Ben Rothenberg on Mar 14, 2010 4:11 PM EDT up reply actions
That PP was BS, but that shot was ridiculous.
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HOW is that not delay of game?
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in this case, the ref can’t if the person who has blocked the shot has lost the puck in his pads
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A goal here would be swell.
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Rangers actually scored a goal there on that wrap around by Ansimov. I guess it wasn’t reviewed during the time out. Big break for #Flyers.
???
Wow, what a shift by Hartnell.
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I would love to see a Riley Cote 60-footer flip shot goal on Lundquist that would be hilarious.
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Richards looks tired to me…anyone else?
by EaglesFanatic80 on Mar 14, 2010 4:22 PM EDT reply actions
too much partying on that stalled train last night?
oooo…too soon?
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by KreiderDesigns on Mar 14, 2010 4:23 PM EDT up reply actions
Avery pushed them!
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Lame. Shouldn’t be a penalty, but they’ll call that every time.
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Someone crush Avery please…I hate that douche
by EaglesFanatic80 on Mar 14, 2010 4:26 PM EDT reply actions
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Hartnell definitely in pain going off ice
Hartnell misses a shift. replaced by JVR
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Heh, just a bit. Carcillo’s injury against the Isles is a solid example.
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by Travis Hughes on Mar 14, 2010 4:29 PM EDT up reply actions
wouldn’t that be just perfect for Hartsy’s season so far though. Gets an awesome goal, goes doghouse to penthouse, then beasts it up on an awesome shift against the Rangers and goes down with an injury right after. He and Coburn should have a can’t catch a break contest.
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by KreiderDesigns on Mar 14, 2010 4:30 PM EDT up reply actions
He is playing real hard, and he has been pushing his game to a level he is not used to in a while. Plus and had a crazy long shift. I bet hes beyond winded, and has to sit for a bit
by Prometheus74 on Mar 14, 2010 4:31 PM EDT up reply actions
good theory. too much hair in the lungs.
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by KreiderDesigns on Mar 14, 2010 4:31 PM EDT up reply actions
Why is Avery playing so good against us?
by edbro on Mar 14, 2010 4:30 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
*sigh*
Avery’s a punk bitch.
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Man, I wish I could hear this dialogue.
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Charles Wang thinks there should be a playoff for the 8th playoff spot.
http://www.theglobeandmail.com/sports/a-play-in-for-the-playoffs/article1498391/
Kinda offtopic, but funny nonetheless.
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The irony… when Carcillo does the same thing, we love it. Although Carcillo didn’t egg on Orr last week like Avery just did to Hartnell.
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avery shook his hands like he was going to fight.
carbomb kept his hands down.
i think there is a difference
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Yes.
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by Travis Hughes on Mar 14, 2010 4:37 PM EDT up reply actions
Looks like it will have to be another 3rd period comeback.
by edbro on Mar 14, 2010 4:45 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
Exactly
Down 2-1 in the third. I’d say we got ’em right where we want ’em.
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by KreiderDesigns on Mar 14, 2010 4:46 PM EDT up reply actions
I’m still so excited about yesterday that I almost don’t care what happens here.
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sigh When will we stop letting Avery get to us?
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Avery
You know I would even want Avery on my team, as much as he would be an asset. He’s still a complete ass that isn’t so much a hockey player as he is a professional tool.
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Since there are so many whistles, at least its even. Not my kind of game, but hard to complain.
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Where’s Leon Stickle when you need him?
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by KreiderDesigns on Mar 14, 2010 5:10 PM EDT up reply actions
I hate how everybody touts MSG as such a great arena. The place sucks.
(not really related right now, but I think it every time we play there)
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Haven’t you heard? Everything in New York is the greatest in the world.
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by Ben Rothenberg on Mar 14, 2010 5:16 PM EDT up reply actions
Really!?!?
Someone just punch him in the face and make this game worth watching.
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This team drives me up a fucking wall….where is the desperation? How do we let this team dictate a game?
flyers just look tired.
5 games in 8 days
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no its not the same.
hell, pitt had more than a few days off inbetween games last week
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Every team is playing a condensed schedule the rest of the year. We have a lot more of this coming up so we better figure out how to deal with it.
i think they could play smarter in these stituations so I agree with you there. There are ways around fatigue but.they’re not a heady team and don’t have enough finese players to be crafty..
It just feels like every time we have a chance to make a statement with a game, we shit on ourselves. Yesterday we showed we could play with the best in the West, and then today we have a chance to get a 4 pt. swing with the lowly Rangers, with all this game implied with the previous matchup, and we don’t even come to play. It’s maddening
i agree but that where heady play is key…in every sport. At some point you have to be strategically minded because biology won’t let you dig deep for that extra reserve in an 88 game grueling scheledule. Heart is great but it won’t always be there for 88 games. So you either pick you battles or out smart your opponent.
whens the last time henrik had to make a difficult save on a rebound?
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Oh Captain my captain
Right move by Richie. Get something going.
Once again where are the linsemen when the jersey comes over the head!?!
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Dubinsky is a scumbag. Punching Richie while he’s on the ice.
Carcillo doesn’t do that. Richards doesn’t do that. None of our players do that.
Dubinsky is a scumbag.
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by Travis Hughes on Mar 14, 2010 5:23 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
Agreed.
Lappy even helped a guy up once. You could even see him say “I’m not going to hit you” after he fell.
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by KreiderDesigns on Mar 14, 2010 5:25 PM EDT up reply actions
f this.
regroup and be ready on tuesday.
put leino back in.
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These are those times in which I realize: points are points. Yesterday’s game was awesome, but the 2 points that came from that game are the same that would have come from today’s. Today’s are actually more valuable, because it would been against an eastern conference team.
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by CoburnsCuddleBuddy on Mar 14, 2010 5:28 PM EDT reply actions
those wins against the Leafs and Islanders don’t seem so petty now, do they?
TAKE THE FALL, ACT HURT, GET INDIGNANT
by CoburnsCuddleBuddy on Mar 14, 2010 5:43 PM EDT up reply actions
I blame Amtrak
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New Jersey
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82 | 48 | 27 | 7 | 103 |
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Pittsburgh
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82 | 47 | 28 | 7 | 101 |
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Philadelphia
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82 | 41 | 35 | 6 | 88 |
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New York Rangers
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82 | 38 | 33 | 11 | 87 |
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New York Islanders
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82 | 34 | 37 | 11 | 79 |
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Sat 10/09 | 8:00 PM EDT |
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Colorado
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Mon 10/11 | 7:00 PM EDT |
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Tampa Bay
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Thu 10/14 | 7:00 PM EDT |
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Sat 10/16 | 7:00 PM EDT |
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