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Meet the Nashville Predators

We don't get to see much of the Nashville Predators around here, so when the Flyers waltz in to Nashville Arena Gaylord Entertainment Center Sommet Center Bridgestone Arena (we do have something in common!) tonight, a lot of us might not know what to expect. With the help of Dirk from On the Forecheck and his fine work covering the Preds, we bring you this primer on all that is hockey in Nashville. Dirk's stuff is in block quotes, logically.

While they lack a big-name offensive star (and might not have a single player reach 50 points), the Preds are 12th in Goals Per Game. They perhaps embody the "scoring by committee" tag better than any NHL team in recent memory.

A lot of us think the Flyers are down in the scoring department this year, especially compared to a year ago when the orange and black had about 200 different 20-goal scorers. But this year, the potency is still there for most of the guys. In Nashville, it's spread around like rice in North Korea (okay, bad analogy).

While the Preds could potentially have nobody cross the 50 point mark, the Flyers already have two players there and will likely have three or four come the end of the season. Nashville is still able to put the puck in the net, however, because they have ten players with at least 30 points on the year. Scoring by committee, indeed.

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While they enjoy a wealth of talented defensemen, the Predators are not a very good defensive team, 20th in Goals Against Per Game. Despite employing the characteristic work ethic that Barry Trotz is famous for instilling in his players, defensive coverage breakdowns are worryingly common.

Likely the reason Nashville picked up Denis Grebeshkov from Edmonton right before the trade deadline, they just aren't solid defensively. It's a very solid group they have, but the one thing that sticks out is that they're young. Shea Weber and Ryan Suter are 24 and 25 years old and logging 20-plus minutes a night. Dan Hamhuis (heh, remember him?) is the anchor at age 28, but on the whole it's a relatively young group of guys.

We'll take defensive coverage breakdowns for the night, though. That's fine.

The goaltending this year has been decent, but certainly not outstanding, as has usually been the case in Nashville, and the penalty killing has been downright dreadful.

That last note there could go a long way toward determining the game. They're 29th on the power play, above only Toronto, in penalty killing. The Flyers power play is really good, even if it frustrates us at times. There's no arguing with third in the league.

The power play, typically the Achilles heel of Predators teams, has sparked to life in recent weeks and has climbed to 17th in the latest team statistics.

I've read several times this morning from people down in Nashville that the Preds power play is their key to the game tonight, given that the Flyers lead the league in penalties. One thing clearly of utmost importance: the Flyers have taken very few penalties lately.

Excluding Avery-fest '10 on Sunday, they took one minor on Thursday, one minor on Tuesday, and just two the Friday before against Buffalo. I also ignored the Blackhawks game and the Leafs game because they didn't prove my point, but you see what I mean here. They can stay disciplined and have shown it several times lately, and if that can happen, it nullifies this advantage for Nashville.

But okay, enough about the team. What's it like to watch a game in Nashville? This excerpt from a series James Mirtle ran over on SBN's From The Rink back in March of last year highlights it quite well, I'd say.

It's a hockey locale unlike any other, and a pretty surreal experience for someone who grew up typically Canadian, playing shinny on the pond and watching junior hockey at the local rink.

Me, I loved it. And I can see why so many NHLers enjoy playing in Nashville.

For one thing, Music City, USA, didn't strike me as all that different from a lot of small Canadian towns — including the one I grew up in. There's great BBQ, friendly people, lots of Nickelback and all the cowboy paraphernalia you could want. The Predators' players and staff also have the advantage of being able to pretty much come and go as they please, showing up in local haunts after games — although they're far from anonymous.  There are plenty of superfans who recognize the players, but they're treated for the most part as minor celebs in a town used to having famous acts come through.

The fans themselves, for the two games I saw, were terrific. Unique, sure, especially given all of their various chants (I've never seen a fan base get so excited when their team goes on the power play, for example, or thank the PA announcer for telling them there was one minute remaining in the period), but a lot of fun. Preds fans have built up their own traditions separate from those you see in arenas in Canada and the Northeastern U.S., and even have a band nestled above the zamboni entrance that plays during intermissions. They're also proud of the fact that the Preds were the first NHL team to employ cheerleaders.

This is football country, after all.

If you're interested in Nashville hockey at all, I'd urge you to go read the entire series James did on the team when he made a trip down there last February. It's lengthy but all very fascinating, an excellent window into what Nashville hockey is like. You know, breaking down stereotypes and stuff.

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I just hope we don’t make Dan Ellis look like a future Vezina winner tonight.

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by HockeyOutsiders on Mar 16, 2010 11:53 AM EDT reply actions  

I just hope we don’t make Pekka Rinne Dan Ellis look like a future Vezina winner tonight.

FTFY, and Rinne actually has Vezina potential, maybe. he’s a little inconsistent, but on fire right now.

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by Chris Burton on Mar 16, 2010 11:57 AM EDT up reply actions  

which is something you could say about Preds goaltending almost since the inception of the franchise.

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by HockeyOutsiders on Mar 16, 2010 12:31 PM EDT up reply actions  

re: Preds defense

On paper, we have perhaps the best defensive unit in the league, I think. Weber, Suter, Hamhuis, Klein, Bouillon, Franson, Grebeshkov, and Sulzer are all top four guys. I’m equally baffled at the numbers coming from these guys right now. Klein is the real weak link, as you can probably tell if you did any number crunching.

Another thing that really drags down the GA number is the piss poor PK we’ve had this year, and thats not all on the defenders. The PK forwards have been abysmal.

In summary: standing alone, our D is really, really good. As a whole, its been kinda wonky. If everyone plays up to their potential, you’ll get totally shut down like Anaheim found out on Friday.

As for our scoring, I’d rather have so many guys over 30 points than a big gun. We don’t ever find ourselves relying on one player to bail us out. When you have Jason Arnott, Erat, Dumont, Sully, Legwand, Ward, Hornqvist, Wilson, Weber, or Suter all performing all capable of changing a game it takes the need away for a Kovalchuk-type guy, which I’m really thankful for.

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by Chris Burton on Mar 16, 2010 11:56 AM EDT reply actions  

So, let me get this straight

If playing up to potential, you should have the best defense, the best goalie, and the most well-rounded scoring in the league? No wonder you guys are at the top of the West!

by Snevik on Mar 16, 2010 5:12 PM EDT up reply actions  

Interpretation fail much?

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by Chris Burton on Mar 16, 2010 5:35 PM EDT up reply actions  

In what way? “On paper, [the Preds] have perhaps the best defensive unit in the league.” "[the Preds] perhaps embody the “scoring by committee” tag better than any NHL team in recent memory." “Rinne actually has Vezina potential.”

by Snevik on Mar 16, 2010 5:47 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah, on paper, they do. But games aren’t played on paper and I said as much.

Also, I never said that we embody the tag better than any NHL team in recent memory— that was Dirk.

And yes, Rinne does have Vezina potential— but so did Ray Emery. Most NHL goalies have a lot of talent. I said “maybe” and that he was “inconsistent”.

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by Chris Burton on Mar 16, 2010 6:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

Not to be a dick, it’s just that positivity irks me.

by Snevik on Mar 16, 2010 5:55 PM EDT up reply actions  

“There’s great BBQ…” nice.

 “…friendly people…” well, given that there is phenomenal BBQ there, no wonder. and fat people are always jolly. except in philly.

“…lots of Nickelback…” That’s not a compliment. That’s a reason to wipe a town off the map without remorse. Nickleback is up there with Creed in bands you wish got AIDS in the face.

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by psudrozz on Mar 16, 2010 11:59 AM EDT reply actions   1 recs

oh boy

Travis, can I take this one?

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by Chris Burton on Mar 16, 2010 12:01 PM EDT up reply actions  

go ahead. i prob deserve it.

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by psudrozz on Mar 16, 2010 12:05 PM EDT up reply actions  

haha, are you going to defend nickelback? Cause I absolutely cannot stand them.

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by Geoff Detweiler on Mar 16, 2010 12:18 PM EDT up reply actions  

um, no

They suck. I was going to point out the naivety of psudrozz’s post.

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by Chris Burton on Mar 16, 2010 12:20 PM EDT up reply actions  

naivety? i really just don’t like nickleback, and used hyperbole to express my distaste.

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by psudrozz on Mar 16, 2010 12:25 PM EDT up reply actions  

I meant more the disregard for Mirtle’s points and that fat people comment. But anyway.

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by Chris Burton on Mar 16, 2010 12:27 PM EDT up reply actions  

Ah, we have lots of fat people here, too—the national reports are always telling us so. Nothing wrong with that. It means we have good food. Nashville is a blast.

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by doubleh on Mar 16, 2010 1:09 PM EDT up reply actions  

Nickelback and Creed are both horrible. They should all be locked in a room, then throw a grenade in there.

by Control13 on Mar 16, 2010 12:28 PM EDT reply actions  

I hope we can hear all of the goofy chants they do. I love our HEY REF YOU SUCK chant. Thats about all we got other than Peco Powerplay, our Bro Hymn goal song, Orange and the Black win song, and LETS GO FLYERS.

by orangeandblack20 on Mar 16, 2010 1:42 PM EDT reply actions  

These are all our chants.

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by Aditya T (smashville) on Mar 16, 2010 1:47 PM EDT up reply actions  

The “witchey” one is just… strange.

You’ll be tired of the “falling down” one after a night watching Scotty Hartnell skate.. O wait, you must be used to that. Do you ever chant that one for one of the home team?

by stubborne on Mar 16, 2010 3:51 PM EDT up reply actions  

I don’t like "hey, you suck!’ in the NHL when your own team scores. It’s one thing if it’s a college atmosphere and the student section is behind the visiting goaltender, because there’s a visible target that “sucks.” In the NHL, it almost comes off as telling your own team that they suck for scoring a goal.

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by Travis Hughes on Mar 16, 2010 4:19 PM EDT up reply actions  

I must say, it might be juvenile, but I love when the following chants get going at a game.

1. The arena calling the refs an “a-hole” after a bad call. (yes, i know there are kids there, but I find that amusing)
2. when the fans start chanting the opposing goalies name after a bad goal

I’m not really a big fan of some of the corny stuff people come up with. I do have to say that in FL, after a big save from Vokoun, they play Blur-Song 2 and instead of “woo-hoo”, they have inserted “Vo-koun” which is pretty sweet.

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by HockeyOutsiders on Mar 16, 2010 4:39 PM EDT up reply actions  

agree with #2.

and if you want corny stuff, just go to a game in DC. there’s even a guy who keeps showing up in an astronaut suit. both rediculous and stupid at the same time.

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by psudrozz on Mar 16, 2010 4:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah, we did the same thing for Vokoun when he was in Nashville

Now we have this Save, Pekka Rinne thing to the tune of Hey, Macarena. It sucks.

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by Aditya T (smashville) on Mar 16, 2010 4:53 PM EDT up reply actions  

ah, so the Panthers stole it! Nice.

Anything set to the Macarena is going to probably pretty much suck.

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by HockeyOutsiders on Mar 16, 2010 5:20 PM EDT up reply actions  

including the macarena

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by psudrozz on Mar 16, 2010 5:26 PM EDT up reply actions  

As a college student who’s taken part in many a hockey student section, my favorite ones are always the off-color ones. For example..

  • Opposing team gathers in a huddle around the net before puck drop: “Circle jerk!”
  • Singing ‘Camptown Races’ in unison, but changing the words to "[Insert school name] girls have STD’s, do dah, do dah.
  • One very enterprising individual screams “Everybody knows!” and everybody else follows up with “[Insert school name] BLOWS!” Repeat several times.
  • While the other team is being announced, the entire student section just holds up the middle finger. Kinda over the top, BU does this one IIRC
  • When the opposing goalie takes his mask off to get a drink of water or something, chant “ug-lee-goal-lee!”

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by Travis Hughes on Mar 16, 2010 5:01 PM EDT up reply actions  

we used to do “old mcdonald”

when we would detail the farm animals, we would usually scream and point at the other teams fans.

for example:
“…and on his farm he had some PIGS”

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by psudrozz on Mar 16, 2010 5:13 PM EDT up reply actions  

i don’t like the “hey ref you suck” chant.

i just don’t believe this chant helps the cause.

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by psudrozz on Mar 16, 2010 1:55 PM EDT up reply actions  

But I thought honesty was always the best policy?

(j/k)

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by The Dark on Mar 16, 2010 2:01 PM EDT up reply actions  

There was mention of cheerleaders but no pics?

For shame! Let me remedy that:

"I did my walk of shame this morning and everyone was so much nicer," she said. "People were inviting me to parties at 9 a.m."

by IcersGuy on Mar 16, 2010 4:38 PM EDT reply actions   1 recs

Great picture to have on my screen as my supervisor walks in the room!

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by ToddtheFox on Mar 16, 2010 5:09 PM EDT up reply actions  

Cheerleaders in hockey? No comprendo. I hate cheerleaders. I can appreciate that they are cute (for all you guys out there), but really—do we need someone to tell us when to celebrate?

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by doubleh on Mar 16, 2010 7:46 PM EDT up reply actions  

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