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Game 70, Preview and Game Thread: Philadelphia Flyers at Dallas Stars

Philadelphia Flyers at Dallas Stars, Mar 18, 2010 8:30 PM EDT


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#7 Philadelphia Flyers (36-28-5, 77 pts) at #12 Dallas Stars (30-26-13, 73 pts)
American Airlines Center - 8:30 PM ET - Dallas, TX
TV: CSN Philly HD, Fox Sports Southwest HD
Radio: 610 WIP, XM 239
This is the open game thread.
Get the Dallas perspective at Defending Big D
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We're going to keep this preview short and sweet, because there's one key to this game and one key to this game only. He wears number 33 for the Philadelphia Flyers. His name is Brian Boucher. He's your starting goaltender.

It's his first start since the middle of December, so who knows how he's going to play. Coming in out of the bullpen is a different situation and in most of those chances, Boucher has performed admirably. In fact, as a starter he's done well too, but most people aren't really looking at that.

They see his 4-12-2 record and automatically think the Flyers are doomed, but the fact of the matter is that Boucher was not even close to the reason the Flyers sucked through November and December. In fact, some may go as far as to say Boucher was the Flyers best player in that stretch.

In any event, this is a big night for Brian Boucher. The net is officially his now, and if the Flyers want to have any chance this season, he needs to own it. Let's see some 2000-era Boosh out there tonight.

Last time the Flyers played in Dallas: March 13, 2007.

After the jump, lineups, questions and our in-game discussion.

Star-divide

Flyers Line Combinations

Gagne - Richards - Carcillo
Briere - Carter - Hartnell/Leino
van Riemsdyk - Giroux - Asham
Powe - Betts - Laperriere

Pronger - Carle
Timonen - Krajicek
Parent - Coburn

Hartnell is sick, might not play. Leino would replace.

Dallas Line Combinations

Morrow - Ribeiro - Segal
Ott - Richards -Eriksson
Neal - Benn - Lehtinen
Barch - Petersen - Sutherby

Grossman - Robidas
Daley - Skrastins
Niskanen - Woywitka

Yes, that Woywitka.

Starting Goaltenders


GP MIN W L EGA GA GAA SA SV SV% SO
Brian Boucher 20 1019 4 12 47 2.77 467 420 .899 0


GP MIN W L EGA GA GAA SA SV SV% SO
 Kari Lehtonen 4 182 1 1 11 3.63 101 90 .891 0


Questions to Answer

  1. Obvious question: how does Boucher play tonight?
  2. The Flyers dominated the Stars on home ice last time they met. Any continuation of that?
  3. Dallas is desperate. Seven points out, 12 games left. Do they appear to be packing it in or do they come out firing?

CSN, WIP. BOOSH. Join us for the discussion, and LET'S GO FLYERS!

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if hartnell was healthy, would you want him in?

i say yes at this point. sit one of asham or powe, and give leino a chance in consecutive games

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by psudrozz on Mar 18, 2010 6:32 PM EDT reply actions  

I have said all along and I will say it again, I am more confident with Boucher in the pipes than I ever was with Leighton.

by EREX21 on Mar 18, 2010 6:58 PM EDT reply actions  

Same, I just hate when Boosh comes in mid-game. He sucks when he doesnt start, but as a starter, he played great.

"NO HONOR"

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by JpH89 on Mar 18, 2010 7:09 PM EDT up reply actions  

I am happy we have him over Biron
The rust (if any) will be off by early April.

by Prometheus74 on Mar 18, 2010 8:10 PM EDT up reply actions  

Biron was a decent GT while he was here in Philly. I love how my douchebag Pens fans pointed and laughed and said, “You don’t have a goaltender,” when his stats were basically the same as MAF’s. Difference is MAF got hot at the right time last season and Marty did not. Marty did stand on his head for us in 2008, lest we forget—and stole us the first series.

"Tortorella’s got it all wrong ... Gaborik shouldn’t be messing with our skilled player." -Peter Luuko

by doubleh on Mar 18, 2010 8:14 PM EDT up reply actions  

Pens-Bruins live on the NHL Network and NCAA ganes coming back right now.

Flyers should’ve been playing last night.

by MarioD on Mar 18, 2010 7:02 PM EDT reply actions  

Fuck, I think this is just an FSN Pittsburgh broadcast, not an NHL Network broadcast. Though it will be even more entertaining when they make Crosby bleed.

by MarioD on Mar 18, 2010 7:08 PM EDT up reply actions  

hahah you think? I read an article that the Bruins were talking about how there would be no pay back for the Savard hit…now clearly they have to say that but if Cooke had his arm broken tonight it wouldn’t shock me.

by EREX21 on Mar 18, 2010 7:09 PM EDT up reply actions  

realistically, i don’t see anything happenning.

personally, i would demand crosby’s teeth on my desk

Eat what the monkey eats, then eat the monkey. -U.S. Navy survival guidance

by psudrozz on Mar 18, 2010 7:10 PM EDT up reply actions  

No one is going to take a baseball swing at anyone. But I will be in complete shock if this isn’t a testy, physical game for 60 minutes with lots of after-whistle skirmishes.

And if someone is the middle of the ice with their head down, I expect a Bruin will go for the decapitation.

by MarioD on Mar 18, 2010 7:12 PM EDT up reply actions  

i see cooke turtling, but that’s it.

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by psudrozz on Mar 18, 2010 7:18 PM EDT up reply actions  

but i hope you are right

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by psudrozz on Mar 18, 2010 7:18 PM EDT up reply actions  

I hope Cooke gets it big time. He is a scum bag. His hit on Savard sucked but the one he delivered two days later was even worse, considering what he had just done to Savard.

by EREX21 on Mar 18, 2010 7:20 PM EDT up reply actions  

Cooke just lost that fight.

"Tortorella’s got it all wrong ... Gaborik shouldn’t be messing with our skilled player." -Peter Luuko

by doubleh on Mar 18, 2010 7:22 PM EDT up reply actions  

He actually fought?

"NZFlyerfan"

by ToddtheFox on Mar 18, 2010 7:23 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yep. And the Pitt announcers weren’t even homers about it. Although they did ask, “Will this be the end of it?”

"Tortorella’s got it all wrong ... Gaborik shouldn’t be messing with our skilled player." -Peter Luuko

by doubleh on Mar 18, 2010 7:24 PM EDT up reply actions  

Thorton kicked the shit out of Cook about 4 seconds after he jumped on the ice.

The key was, Thorton threw about five punches after Cooke went down. Which I’m fine with. Cooke’s got no respect for the game and other players so Thorton returned the favor and pounded him when he was vulnerable.

by MarioD on Mar 18, 2010 7:23 PM EDT up reply actions  

He got what he had coming to him.

"Tortorella’s got it all wrong ... Gaborik shouldn’t be messing with our skilled player." -Peter Luuko

by doubleh on Mar 18, 2010 7:23 PM EDT up reply actions  

And Thornton got a 10 minute misconduct. What a joke.

by MarioD on Mar 18, 2010 7:24 PM EDT up reply actions  

For….? Just instigating?

"NZFlyerfan"

by ToddtheFox on Mar 18, 2010 7:24 PM EDT up reply actions  

for doing the right thing, apparently

Eat what the monkey eats, then eat the monkey. -U.S. Navy survival guidance

by psudrozz on Mar 18, 2010 7:25 PM EDT up reply actions  

This is the NHL, the right thing is relative apparently.

by EREX21 on Mar 18, 2010 7:26 PM EDT up reply actions  

Not instigating, that would’ve been 2+5+10.

I checked nhl.com and they have it listed as Rule 87(b): Conduct detrimental to the Pittsburgh Penguins.

by MarioD on Mar 18, 2010 7:34 PM EDT up reply actions  

i see what you did there. and the “b” really tied the room together

Eat what the monkey eats, then eat the monkey. -U.S. Navy survival guidance

by psudrozz on Mar 18, 2010 7:37 PM EDT up reply actions  

Is rule 87(a) Conduct detrimental to Crosby?

What happens if the two conflict?

"NZFlyerfan"

by ToddtheFox on Mar 18, 2010 7:57 PM EDT up reply actions  

Aren’t the two riles essentially redundant? I mean, he IS the Penguins, right?

"Tortorella’s got it all wrong ... Gaborik shouldn’t be messing with our skilled player." -Peter Luuko

by doubleh on Mar 18, 2010 8:10 PM EDT up reply actions  

That’s my interpretation of the rule.

Proudly supporting a Flyers team with "no honor".

by JFein on Mar 18, 2010 8:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

Crosby must score all the GWG, so must play the final 10 mins of any game. Failure to allow him to do so will result in a fine to both teams.

"NZFlyerfan"

by ToddtheFox on Mar 18, 2010 8:13 PM EDT up reply actions  

Even Team USA?

"Tortorella’s got it all wrong ... Gaborik shouldn’t be messing with our skilled player." -Peter Luuko

by doubleh on Mar 18, 2010 8:14 PM EDT up reply actions  

(Let’s try to keep Bruins discussion on this branch?)

Steve Begin just took a run at a Pen who saw him coming, so Behin kneed him instead. Lots of extremely dangerous cheap shots in this game, but no Instigation! New NHL for the win.

by MarioD on Mar 18, 2010 8:40 PM EDT up reply actions  

What’s with all the Penguins fans in Boston? I didn’t know their bandwagon extended that far…?

"Tortorella’s got it all wrong ... Gaborik shouldn’t be messing with our skilled player." -Peter Luuko

by doubleh on Mar 18, 2010 7:33 PM EDT reply actions  

Cooke with a slew foot, really? Man, what a prick.

"Tortorella’s got it all wrong ... Gaborik shouldn’t be messing with our skilled player." -Peter Luuko

by doubleh on Mar 18, 2010 7:40 PM EDT reply actions  

Whenever anybody from Pensburgh comes over talking about Philadelphia goonery, we don’t even have to say Marc Savard, we can just say Matt Cooke.

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by Geoff Detweiler on Mar 18, 2010 7:41 PM EDT up reply actions  

You’d think he’d have a little more control this evening, considering he could end up getting one of his own teammates killed. Bruins are definitely taking liberties with MAF.

"Tortorella’s got it all wrong ... Gaborik shouldn’t be messing with our skilled player." -Peter Luuko

by doubleh on Mar 18, 2010 7:46 PM EDT up reply actions  

I am the only one whose NHL Network feed is just a black screen?

by EREX21 on Mar 18, 2010 7:42 PM EDT reply actions  

Mine is as well.

by Ben16 on Mar 18, 2010 7:45 PM EDT up reply actions  

Chara kicks Rupp’s ass.

"Tortorella’s got it all wrong ... Gaborik shouldn’t be messing with our skilled player." -Peter Luuko

by doubleh on Mar 18, 2010 8:28 PM EDT reply actions  

why would anyone fight chara?

Eat what the monkey eats, then eat the monkey. -U.S. Navy survival guidance

by psudrozz on Mar 18, 2010 8:28 PM EDT reply actions  

or chutzpah

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by psudrozz on Mar 18, 2010 8:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

Résumé builder

"I did my walk of shame this morning and everyone was so much nicer," she said. "People were inviting me to parties at 9 a.m."

by IcersGuy on Mar 18, 2010 8:31 PM EDT up reply actions  

Ok Flyers, let’s do this.

by EREX21 on Mar 18, 2010 8:29 PM EDT reply actions  

Just built a favoites list so I can rotate through NCAA, Flyers, Bruins (second tuner recording NBC comedies).

Busy night.

by MarioD on Mar 18, 2010 8:34 PM EDT reply actions  

Fortunately, Bruins’ 2nd intermission should coincide with start of Flyers tonight, and NCAA 8:00 game endings should coincide with first Flyers’ intermission.

by MarioD on Mar 18, 2010 8:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

Hoyas are totally f’ing my bracket right now.

by EREX21 on Mar 18, 2010 8:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

Black jerseys again, not cool.

by EREX21 on Mar 18, 2010 8:35 PM EDT reply actions  

Trying to get some use out of them before they ditch them end of season.

"Tortorella’s got it all wrong ... Gaborik shouldn’t be messing with our skilled player." -Peter Luuko

by doubleh on Mar 18, 2010 8:35 PM EDT up reply actions  

I’m pretty sure they play worse every time they wear them.

by Toomin on Mar 18, 2010 8:38 PM EDT up reply actions  

Hey, hockey!

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by Travis Hughes on Mar 18, 2010 8:38 PM EDT reply actions  

Wow glad to see the Star’s fans came out in full force.

by EREX21 on Mar 18, 2010 8:39 PM EDT reply actions  

Loads of empty seats in the lower bowl, I’d hate to see what the upper bowl looks like.

Oh, This is bound to be good
You can't, but you thought that You could

by jello44 on Mar 18, 2010 8:40 PM EDT up reply actions  

Just as bad. At least it did a few minutes prior to puck drop.

by EREX21 on Mar 18, 2010 8:41 PM EDT up reply actions  

Dallas is a pretty bad team, for the second consecutive season.

by MarioD on Mar 18, 2010 8:41 PM EDT up reply actions  

True but two years ago they were in the conference finals. Not like they have been garbage for years.

by EREX21 on Mar 18, 2010 8:44 PM EDT up reply actions  

So were the Flyers. Sigh.

by MarioD on Mar 18, 2010 8:45 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah but our fans still show up.

by EREX21 on Mar 18, 2010 8:47 PM EDT up reply actions  

Wow, look at all the Flyers jerseys in the crowd on the near side.

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by Travis Hughes on Mar 18, 2010 8:40 PM EDT reply actions  

I see more orange than anything else…maybe because it sticks out more.

by EREX21 on Mar 18, 2010 8:41 PM EDT up reply actions  

Confused, did they say Hartnell is dressed?

by MarioD on Mar 18, 2010 8:40 PM EDT reply actions  

Yeah, he’s out there right now.

by Toomin on Mar 18, 2010 8:41 PM EDT up reply actions  

I guess Leino replaced…. Asham?

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by Travis Hughes on Mar 18, 2010 8:41 PM EDT reply actions  

I thought the goalie call-up was a kid? He looks like he’s 43 years old on the bench there.

by MarioD on Mar 18, 2010 8:44 PM EDT reply actions  

Yeah, I made a joke about how he’s 23 and balding in the Leighton story.

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by Geoff Detweiler on Mar 18, 2010 8:48 PM EDT up reply actions  

Just looked, when did you add all that?

I saw the blurb, then like a three paragraph article. Was there a second edit that added the three goalie graphics and all that?

by MarioD on Mar 18, 2010 8:53 PM EDT up reply actions  

yeah, second edit when I got home.

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by Geoff Detweiler on Mar 18, 2010 9:12 PM EDT up reply actions  

Did i just hear a “BOOOOSH?”

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by KreiderDesigns on Mar 18, 2010 8:44 PM EDT reply actions  

Leino’s legs look like twigs

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by Travis Hughes on Mar 18, 2010 8:45 PM EDT reply actions  

he’s our own little pinkston

Eat what the monkey eats, then eat the monkey. -U.S. Navy survival guidance

by psudrozz on Mar 18, 2010 8:45 PM EDT up reply actions  

I have to admit

I am currently watching Georgetown crap the bed against Ohio.

And I thought Nova’s game against Robert Morris was bad.

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by JFein on Mar 18, 2010 8:45 PM EDT reply actions  

I always love seeing Georgetown lose.

"Tortorella’s got it all wrong ... Gaborik shouldn’t be messing with our skilled player." -Peter Luuko

by doubleh on Mar 18, 2010 8:46 PM EDT up reply actions  

Me too. My bracket doesn’t though.

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by Travis Hughes on Mar 18, 2010 8:47 PM EDT up reply actions  

Agreed, I had them in the Elite Eight…toast.

by EREX21 on Mar 18, 2010 8:47 PM EDT up reply actions  

So did I, but I am glad to be wrong.

"Tortorella’s got it all wrong ... Gaborik shouldn’t be messing with our skilled player." -Peter Luuko

by doubleh on Mar 18, 2010 8:48 PM EDT up reply actions  

Me too.

I have Temple playing Nova in the Elte 8, haha.

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by Travis Hughes on Mar 18, 2010 8:48 PM EDT up reply actions  

way to not be a homer at all.

by EREX21 on Mar 18, 2010 8:48 PM EDT up reply actions  

I doubt Nova gets that far. I love them, but they looked awful today.

"Tortorella’s got it all wrong ... Gaborik shouldn’t be messing with our skilled player." -Peter Luuko

by doubleh on Mar 18, 2010 8:49 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah they did.

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by Travis Hughes on Mar 18, 2010 8:49 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah, my bracket is taking a major Elite 8 hit right now, but it’s still fun to watch.

Proudly supporting a Flyers team with "no honor".

by JFein on Mar 18, 2010 8:48 PM EDT up reply actions  

you have to figure the loss is negligible given that most have them at least as a sweet sixteen team

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by psudrozz on Mar 18, 2010 8:49 PM EDT up reply actions  

Although, I actually think Georgetown will come back and win. They are that kind of team.

"Tortorella’s got it all wrong ... Gaborik shouldn’t be messing with our skilled player." -Peter Luuko

by doubleh on Mar 18, 2010 8:50 PM EDT up reply actions  

Can I have some of that crack?

by EREX21 on Mar 18, 2010 8:51 PM EDT up reply actions  

It’s not crack—it’s just from hating them for so long. They are capable of a run. Maybe it’s only against other BE teams…lol.

"Tortorella’s got it all wrong ... Gaborik shouldn’t be messing with our skilled player." -Peter Luuko

by doubleh on Mar 18, 2010 8:53 PM EDT up reply actions  

JVR makes a move right as he gets to the blue line drawing Giroux offside, then inside of dumping it in just turns it over in the neutral zone which becomes a 1 on 1 rush and a really nice snapshot scoring chance.

by MarioD on Mar 18, 2010 8:48 PM EDT reply actions  

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by Travis Hughes on Mar 18, 2010 8:49 PM EDT reply actions  

Hahahaha. That is awesome.

"Good night. Good hockey."

by KreiderDesigns on Mar 18, 2010 8:50 PM EDT up reply actions  

it’s nice, but it translates to “the flyers are toast”

Eat what the monkey eats, then eat the monkey. -U.S. Navy survival guidance

by psudrozz on Mar 18, 2010 8:50 PM EDT up reply actions  

ugh…he stepped on parent’s stick

Eat what the monkey eats, then eat the monkey. -U.S. Navy survival guidance

by psudrozz on Mar 18, 2010 8:51 PM EDT reply actions  

eh-close

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by psudrozz on Mar 18, 2010 8:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

Anyone know?

Just looked at the Dallas lines. Has Woywitka turned into anything? Is it one of those “I wish we’d kept him” situations or is he a bust?

"Good night. Good hockey."

by KreiderDesigns on Mar 18, 2010 8:53 PM EDT reply actions  

when did we draft him almost a decade ago I am pretty sure that means bust

by chrislanci on Mar 18, 2010 9:06 PM EDT up reply actions  

BOOOOOOOOOOSHHH

"Good night. Good hockey."

by KreiderDesigns on Mar 18, 2010 8:53 PM EDT reply actions  

Is there anything more terrifying than the behind the goal cam?

by You don't have to be sweet, to be good on Mar 18, 2010 8:53 PM EDT reply actions  

Goalie cam?

"NZFlyerfan"

by ToddtheFox on Mar 18, 2010 8:54 PM EDT up reply actions  

Rebounds going to the boards instead of the slot? Brilliant!

by MarioD on Mar 18, 2010 8:54 PM EDT reply actions  

Worst PK of the season? Three great scoring chances in a minute and a half…

by MarioD on Mar 18, 2010 8:55 PM EDT reply actions  

When was the last time our PK unit killed a penalty?

by EREX21 on Mar 18, 2010 8:55 PM EDT reply actions  

georgetown deserves to lose if they play like this.

weird move by richards

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by psudrozz on Mar 18, 2010 8:55 PM EDT reply actions  

whats up this the agitators having stellar games agents us?
1st Avery now Ott

by Prometheus74 on Mar 18, 2010 8:56 PM EDT reply actions  

Bad defense?

"Tortorella’s got it all wrong ... Gaborik shouldn’t be messing with our skilled player." -Peter Luuko

by doubleh on Mar 18, 2010 8:59 PM EDT up reply actions  

You beat me to it.

"Tortorella’s got it all wrong ... Gaborik shouldn’t be messing with our skilled player." -Peter Luuko

by doubleh on Mar 18, 2010 8:56 PM EDT up reply actions  

I know, I just don’t get it. It’s like they have no interest in trying to help the guy out, and it’s not like Boosh is putting in zero effort on his end

by DragonGirl0583 on Mar 18, 2010 8:57 PM EDT up reply actions  

Do the guys just hate Boosh?

"Tortorella’s got it all wrong ... Gaborik shouldn’t be messing with our skilled player." -Peter Luuko

by doubleh on Mar 18, 2010 8:56 PM EDT reply actions  

They must think Boosh is a Crosby vodoo doll in disguise so they do not bother preventing any pucks from pelting him from every angle

by Prometheus74 on Mar 18, 2010 9:03 PM EDT up reply actions  

Man, I’m so tired I can’t focus on this game at all.

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by Travis Hughes on Mar 18, 2010 8:56 PM EDT reply actions  

Am I the only one having an extremely hard time trying to stay positive about this team and the rest of the season?

by LegionofDoom on Mar 18, 2010 9:00 PM EDT via mobile reply actions  

Nope. My hope went out the window after the Rangers game following the incredible Blackhawks fiesta.

"Tortorella’s got it all wrong ... Gaborik shouldn’t be messing with our skilled player." -Peter Luuko

by doubleh on Mar 18, 2010 9:01 PM EDT up reply actions  

Ditto

I’ve learned to expect the worst since the collapse at the end of last season.

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by kmblue on Mar 18, 2010 9:03 PM EDT up reply actions  

My attempts at optimism get weaker every time the apathetic version of the team shows up for a game.

by DragonGirl0583 on Mar 18, 2010 9:04 PM EDT up reply actions  

Okay glad I am not alone.

And with Homers bone head cap management I have no faith or hope for the future.

by LegionofDoom on Mar 18, 2010 9:05 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

Perhaps you can have faith in his firing if the Flyers don’t make the playoffs, because that’s probably what will happen.

"Tortorella’s got it all wrong ... Gaborik shouldn’t be messing with our skilled player." -Peter Luuko

by doubleh on Mar 18, 2010 9:06 PM EDT up reply actions  

So is Kari Lehtonen completely healthy or is he a ticking timebomb?

by Ben Feldman on Mar 18, 2010 9:00 PM EDT reply actions  

I thought Lehtonen had some pretty serious health issues (back?).

by Ben Feldman on Mar 18, 2010 9:01 PM EDT up reply actions  

You meant timebomb to reinjury?

I didn’t understand what he was ticking down to.

by MarioD on Mar 18, 2010 9:03 PM EDT up reply actions  

Oh, yeah, that’s what I meant. Sorry if it was unclear.

by Ben Feldman on Mar 18, 2010 9:03 PM EDT up reply actions  

that would ahve been a goal on leighton

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by psudrozz on Mar 18, 2010 9:02 PM EDT reply actions  

which shot?

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by KreiderDesigns on Mar 18, 2010 9:03 PM EDT up reply actions  

last one, short side bad angle

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by psudrozz on Mar 18, 2010 9:04 PM EDT up reply actions  

You posted that after I was seeing the fight end.

by MarioD on Mar 18, 2010 9:04 PM EDT up reply actions  

I agree, and said the same thing to myself. Boosh stood tall on the post instead of the whole down low covering the bottom thing that Emery, Leights, Biron…etc did all the time.

"Good night. Good hockey."

by KreiderDesigns on Mar 18, 2010 9:06 PM EDT up reply actions  

I like the music while the fight is going on. Wonder if the players even notice. Or if they notice the bell at the Center.

"Good night. Good hockey."

by KreiderDesigns on Mar 18, 2010 9:03 PM EDT reply actions  

Lappy is not nearly as ugly as someone who has had 199 fights should be.

by EREX21 on Mar 18, 2010 9:03 PM EDT reply actions  

What are you talking about? His nose is on the other side of his face.

"Tortorella’s got it all wrong ... Gaborik shouldn’t be messing with our skilled player." -Peter Luuko

by doubleh on Mar 18, 2010 9:04 PM EDT up reply actions  

But that’s it. That can happen in one fight.

by EREX21 on Mar 18, 2010 9:05 PM EDT up reply actions  

Maybe he has a good plastic surgeon on speed dial?

"Tortorella’s got it all wrong ... Gaborik shouldn’t be messing with our skilled player." -Peter Luuko

by doubleh on Mar 18, 2010 9:05 PM EDT up reply actions  

Hahahaha yes, Punch-Out theme.

I just nerdgasamed.

Oh, This is bound to be good
You can't, but you thought that You could

by jello44 on Mar 18, 2010 9:03 PM EDT reply actions  

WOW great fight

lappy got caught once, but i give him the edge 10-9

Eat what the monkey eats, then eat the monkey. -U.S. Navy survival guidance

by psudrozz on Mar 18, 2010 9:03 PM EDT reply actions  

Whoa.

Pens just went up 3-0 in the third. This could get interesting…

by MarioD on Mar 18, 2010 9:05 PM EDT reply actions  

GRITTY GOAL

Eat what the monkey eats, then eat the monkey. -U.S. Navy survival guidance

by psudrozz on Mar 18, 2010 9:06 PM EDT reply actions  

I’d wear that t-shirt.

"Good night. Good hockey."

by KreiderDesigns on Mar 18, 2010 9:08 PM EDT up reply actions  

thank you. If I knew how to, or had the hook ups I would have it made.

by EREX21 on Mar 18, 2010 9:09 PM EDT up reply actions  

You do have the hook ups… you’re a member here. ;)

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by Travis Hughes on Mar 19, 2010 7:59 AM EDT up reply actions  

Ugly goal. Never hurts.

by Ben Feldman on Mar 18, 2010 9:06 PM EDT reply actions  

What a wonderfully ugly goal!

by Prometheus74 on Mar 18, 2010 9:07 PM EDT reply actions  

ah shit did we score

by chrislanci on Mar 18, 2010 9:07 PM EDT reply actions  

flyers are up 5-1

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by psudrozz on Mar 18, 2010 9:07 PM EDT up reply actions  

Gags is now in the top 10 all-time flyers scoring.

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by KreiderDesigns on Mar 18, 2010 9:07 PM EDT reply actions  

He’s an obvious future inductee to the Flyers Hall of Fame. I look forward to that day.

by Ben Feldman on Mar 18, 2010 9:08 PM EDT up reply actions  

Absoutely. Top 10 in scoring, top five of my all-time. I can’t believe he’s been a Flyer for 10 years.

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by KreiderDesigns on Mar 18, 2010 9:09 PM EDT up reply actions  

That’ll be a while though, don’t you think? I thought the most recent player they’ve put in at this point is Hextall…. I could be wrong though

by DragonGirl0583 on Mar 18, 2010 9:10 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah, it’ll be a while. They did do Schultz earlier this year though.

by Ben Feldman on Mar 18, 2010 9:10 PM EDT up reply actions  

Oh, you probably meant recent as in last to play for the Flyers. Yeah. It’ll be a while for sure.

by Ben Feldman on Mar 18, 2010 9:12 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yes, that’s what I meant, sorry if I wasn’t clear enough. I was thinking in terms of other people I expect to go in before him, and how many years after retirement it seems to take before they think about those things

by DragonGirl0583 on Mar 18, 2010 9:13 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah I think your right. But Propp was, what 2 years ago? Seems like scorers might have shorter waiting times. If he gets a cup i bet it’d go faster.

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by KreiderDesigns on Mar 18, 2010 9:12 PM EDT up reply actions  

If he gets a Cup, he could get his number retired.

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by Travis Hughes on Mar 19, 2010 7:58 AM EDT up reply actions  

YEAH GAGNE!

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by JFein on Mar 18, 2010 9:08 PM EDT reply actions  

Boucher almost delay of game there?

by GIJimbo on Mar 18, 2010 9:08 PM EDT reply actions  

Its about the puck, not the goalie’s body, so I don’t think so. I think he just got turned around.

by MarioD on Mar 18, 2010 9:08 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yea, I know. They usually give leeway on those, but it looked pretty close.

by GIJimbo on Mar 18, 2010 9:10 PM EDT up reply actions  

Give Lappy the assist.

Big fight, big win, big wake-up call. Right time to drop the gloves and take care of business.

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by KreiderDesigns on Mar 18, 2010 9:08 PM EDT reply actions  

Boucher handles himself much better when he leaves the goal than Leighton…no heart attack factor so far

by j reed on Mar 18, 2010 9:09 PM EDT reply actions  

Cheerleaders at Hockey Games Violation ??

by chrislanci on Mar 18, 2010 9:09 PM EDT reply actions  

Yes. A thousand times yes.

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by doubleh on Mar 18, 2010 9:10 PM EDT up reply actions  

I saw that last night at the Ducks and the Predators

by j reed on Mar 18, 2010 9:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

ugly

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by psudrozz on Mar 18, 2010 9:11 PM EDT reply actions  

Really? First Avery, now Ott? Wtf.

by EREX21 on Mar 18, 2010 9:11 PM EDT reply actions  

Sickening isn’t it?

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by jello44 on Mar 18, 2010 9:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

You know what? I’d rather be beaten by guys with skill. Not douchebags like Ott and Avery.

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by doubleh on Mar 18, 2010 9:12 PM EDT up reply actions  

Well it is a Blue Moon month!

by Prometheus74 on Mar 18, 2010 9:11 PM EDT reply actions  

What the hell was that? I’m not talking about Boosh, but about how easily they were allowed to move that puck in our zone

by DragonGirl0583 on Mar 18, 2010 9:12 PM EDT reply actions  

Parent got beat behind the net, Briere had to collapse down to stop the Star from walking out front, which created a 4-3 in the slot. Dallas did a good job of finding the open man.

by MarioD on Mar 18, 2010 9:14 PM EDT up reply actions  

It looked way too easy to me, but I don’t have the benefit of a DVR to watch repeated replays

by DragonGirl0583 on Mar 18, 2010 9:15 PM EDT up reply actions  

I saw Pronger jump into the slot, leaving Hartnell and Carter near the point. Pronger jumped up to cover the guy in the slot after Hartnell didn’t follow him.

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by Geoff Detweiler on Mar 18, 2010 9:15 PM EDT up reply actions  

Thats where I’m lost. There was another Star on the ice but I couldn’t follow him.

by MarioD on Mar 18, 2010 9:16 PM EDT up reply actions  

If I saw it right, there was a Star going back towards the point as Eriksson came down the slot. That was Carter’s guy, so I believe Carter is exonerated.

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by Geoff Detweiler on Mar 18, 2010 9:18 PM EDT up reply actions  

I believe there were Stars on each point, the one in the slot Pronger took, and then Ott.

Then you have Parent/Briere/Star to Boucher’s right.

I believe Briere was in the middle of the ice to have been the player to drop down on Parent’s man.

Guessing now, I don’t think Carter or Hartnell realized Briere had vacated that position.

by MarioD on Mar 18, 2010 9:20 PM EDT up reply actions  

That sounds accurate.

To me, I’m thinking this is what happened: Parent got beat, Briere left his position to help out (the correct play), forcing the pass to the slot. That player moved down from the point, beating Hartnell. Pronger left Ott to cover him (the correct play), leaving Ott wide open.

Final score: Briere and Pronger +1, Parent and Hartnell -1, Carter 0. (Giving/taking one for right play/getting beat.)

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by Geoff Detweiler on Mar 18, 2010 9:25 PM EDT up reply actions  

I agree with most of that, but not sure:

1) Where is the other Star?
2) Should Carter or Hartnell have covered the slot?

by MarioD on Mar 18, 2010 9:31 PM EDT up reply actions  

1) Not sure… Good question.
2) I’m assuming Hartnell based on the replay I saw, but it might have been Carter’s responsibility to make sure Hartnell knew it was his man, depending on where the 5th Star was.

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by Geoff Detweiler on Mar 18, 2010 9:34 PM EDT up reply actions  

I hate stand-up goalies.

by GIJimbo on Mar 18, 2010 9:12 PM EDT reply actions  

Boosh is hardly stand-up

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by ToddtheFox on Mar 18, 2010 9:12 PM EDT up reply actions  

More stand-up than most goalies. But, if you want to get technical, I hate hybrid goalies. The style works for Nabby, not Boucher.

by GIJimbo on Mar 18, 2010 9:14 PM EDT up reply actions  

Why do you hate hybrid?

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by ToddtheFox on Mar 18, 2010 9:19 PM EDT up reply actions  

I don’t necessarily hate hybrid. If the style works for the goalie, go ahead and use it. The problem is, I don’t see Boucher’s style working for him as well. Most shots are low on the ice. Boucher needs to have quick footwork to get the cross-crease passes which he seems to lack at times. Butterfly goalies take away the bottom of the net very well and can get across the crease better. Stand-up goalies have better rebound control though.

There’s a reason the stand-up style has essentially died out and the butterfly is the new style.

by GIJimbo on Mar 18, 2010 9:25 PM EDT up reply actions  

As far as I can see, butterfly is not really a style for most goalies anymore (such as it was when Roy used it) as it is a tool.
Only a few goalies in the league would butterfly for nearly every shot, Giguere, Hiller and Steve Mason come to mind, whereas most of the others like Miller, Fleury and such would use it often but not for every shot. And then you have Brodeur, Thomas and Nabokov making their own rules.
The strength of taking away the low shots is countered by leaving a lot of space over the shoulders which is often how you will see butterfliers beaten.

I agree that Boosh’s lateral movement isn’t as good as Emery’s, but by standing up a lot more he saves shots that may be goals against Emery.

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by ToddtheFox on Mar 18, 2010 9:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

I agree with you. I use the style terms loosely to make it simpler. I would just rather give up a goal over the shoulder than from the side. At least when you’re down you force the shooter to make a good shot to beat you.

Essentially, what I was trying to say was that I just don’t like the way Boucher plays.

by GIJimbo on Mar 18, 2010 9:35 PM EDT up reply actions  

Well then, I have roughly the same style when I play. So thanks!

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by ToddtheFox on Mar 18, 2010 9:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

Pure defensive laziness.

by LegionofDoom on Mar 18, 2010 9:12 PM EDT via mobile reply actions  

yeah parent is not having a good game

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by psudrozz on Mar 18, 2010 9:13 PM EDT up reply actions  

georgetown within 9

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by psudrozz on Mar 18, 2010 9:12 PM EDT reply actions  

Told you guys they’d make a run.

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by doubleh on Mar 18, 2010 9:13 PM EDT up reply actions  

It basketball…. watch the last two minutes of the game

by j reed on Mar 18, 2010 9:14 PM EDT up reply actions  

agree with you 100% on that too bad the last two minutes is fill of timeouts and foul shots

by chrislanci on Mar 18, 2010 9:15 PM EDT up reply actions  

I watch the whole thing. I love college BB.

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by doubleh on Mar 18, 2010 9:16 PM EDT up reply actions  

Except when the officials call every little ticky tack foul. Then I hate it.

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by doubleh on Mar 18, 2010 9:17 PM EDT up reply actions  

depends who are if you are LeBron or Kobe and you don’t score their was a foul

by chrislanci on Mar 18, 2010 9:19 PM EDT up reply actions  

I meant college BB—my love for the NBA has been waning for years. It’s a star league and I deplore it. Praying the NHL never fully becomes one. Seems it’s heading that way.

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by doubleh on Mar 18, 2010 9:20 PM EDT up reply actions  

It’s the contracst that kill the NBA game…you can screw yourself for years with decent but not great players

by j reed on Mar 18, 2010 9:22 PM EDT up reply actions  

The difference, of course, is that basketball can be dominated by stars while hockey just can’t be taken over by one player.

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by Travis Hughes on Mar 19, 2010 8:03 AM EDT up reply actions  

7

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by psudrozz on Mar 18, 2010 9:13 PM EDT up reply actions  

Who would have thought pre-break that Gagne had a chance to get to 20 goals this year?

by edbro on Mar 18, 2010 9:13 PM EDT reply actions  

I’ve never lost faith in Gags. The man still has great hands and playing with Richie I’m pretty sure even I could get 13 goals.

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by KreiderDesigns on Mar 18, 2010 9:15 PM EDT up reply actions  

That second Dallas goal was just flat out unacceptable. Not one forward was below the dots. Since Carter was the only one I saw in the replay, I blame him.

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by Geoff Detweiler on Mar 18, 2010 9:14 PM EDT reply actions  

Briere was on the goal line.

by MarioD on Mar 18, 2010 9:15 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah, I just saw that on the replay. This is a prime candidate for your breakdowns, since something clearly went wrong.

Watching it again, Briere did a great job preventing him from coming out front. If I saw it correctly, everyone was in the area they were supposed to, but Briere’s man passed it to Hartnell’s man, who was no longer covered by Hartnell, forcing Pronger to leave Ott.

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by Geoff Detweiler on Mar 18, 2010 9:17 PM EDT up reply actions  

Good ol hartnell defense there, stand around, let the puck pass, other team scores. He is awful in the defensive zone

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by JpH89 on Mar 18, 2010 9:15 PM EDT via mobile reply actions  

have we scored 1st since the Break beside the Tampa game

by chrislanci on Mar 18, 2010 9:18 PM EDT reply actions  

rangers

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by psudrozz on Mar 18, 2010 9:19 PM EDT up reply actions  

And Blackhawks.

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by JFein on Mar 18, 2010 9:19 PM EDT up reply actions  

yes the Predators game

by j reed on Mar 18, 2010 9:19 PM EDT up reply actions  

I think we did Gagne in the 1st minute 20 s

by chrislanci on Mar 18, 2010 9:20 PM EDT up reply actions  

It was Carter, but yes we did score first

by DragonGirl0583 on Mar 18, 2010 9:21 PM EDT up reply actions  

okay then when is the last time we had the lead going into the 1st intermission

by chrislanci on Mar 18, 2010 9:21 PM EDT up reply actions  

seems like we are always down 2-1 going into Coatsey’s corner

by chrislanci on Mar 18, 2010 9:22 PM EDT up reply actions  

It’s not good, but not that bad…. I just went back and checked all the box scores:
Nashville – Carter had first goal, we were down 3-1 at 1st intermission
Rangers – Briere had first goal, we were up 1-0 at 1st intermission
Blackhawks – 0-0 at both intermissions, but Gagne scored first goal in 3rd
Boston – We were down 1-0 at first intermission
Islanders – We were down 1-0 at first intermission
Maple Leafs – Carter scored first goal, we were up 1-0 at first intermission
Sabres – Gagne scored first, 1-1 at first intermission
Panthers – Down 2-0 at first intermission
Lightning – Richie scored first goal, tied 1-1 at first intermission

by DragonGirl0583 on Mar 18, 2010 9:28 PM EDT up reply actions  

how do you type so friggin’ fast….it’d take me like 20 minutes to do that

by j reed on Mar 18, 2010 9:29 PM EDT up reply actions  

and it’d be full of mistakes

by j reed on Mar 18, 2010 9:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

Haha, I type all day…. by the time I get here at night, I’m still fast but my accuracy has gone out the window

by DragonGirl0583 on Mar 18, 2010 9:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

your a programmer/software engineer correct?

by j reed on Mar 18, 2010 9:31 PM EDT up reply actions  

sex chat room operator

not to offend but I couldn’t resist

by chrislanci on Mar 18, 2010 9:32 PM EDT up reply actions  

apologies for that comment

by chrislanci on Mar 18, 2010 9:32 PM EDT up reply actions  

Don’t worry too much about it, you did say it was a joke in the first post… But j’s right, not that it’s actually important

by DragonGirl0583 on Mar 18, 2010 9:34 PM EDT up reply actions  

so we are after the 1st period we would be 2-4-3 since the break

by chrislanci on Mar 18, 2010 9:31 PM EDT up reply actions  

georgetown is done

down by 15 with 2 mins left

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by psudrozz on Mar 18, 2010 9:22 PM EDT reply actions  

Yep, now they are. They had a chance to get back in it and blew it.

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by doubleh on Mar 18, 2010 9:23 PM EDT up reply actions  

thank god i only had them making it to the sweet 16. most people did, so the loss is negligible

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by psudrozz on Mar 18, 2010 9:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

OT, but the Pitt announcer just said, “They are really missing Marc Savard; they just can’t get anything going offensively.”

Irony, that, had YOUR team not killed his season he’d be out there to help beat you.

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by doubleh on Mar 18, 2010 9:22 PM EDT reply actions  

has Bos tied it up 3-3 ???

by chrislanci on Mar 18, 2010 9:24 PM EDT up reply actions  

no, theyre down 3-0

by edbro on Mar 18, 2010 9:31 PM EDT up reply actions  

That’s a seriously low-blow. Nice job, Steigerwald and Errey.

by Ben Feldman on Mar 18, 2010 9:24 PM EDT up reply actions  

Now, that is just flat out wrong.

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by kmblue on Mar 18, 2010 9:26 PM EDT up reply actions  

they had no problem scoring against the Flyers.

by EREX21 on Mar 18, 2010 9:26 PM EDT up reply actions  

The Sens are trying really hard to have a full out collapse…would be nice if the Flyers actually took advantage of that.

by EREX21 on Mar 18, 2010 9:27 PM EDT reply actions  

The way its going it seems that both us and Montreal will jump them, but we may stay put in 6th because Montreal will take 5th, they’re on fire now.

by edbro on Mar 18, 2010 9:32 PM EDT up reply actions  

Its very possibly that only four Eastern Conference teams will get to 90pts.

by MarioD on Mar 18, 2010 9:33 PM EDT up reply actions  

bad conference or good conference lots of closely matched teams ???

by chrislanci on Mar 18, 2010 9:34 PM EDT up reply actions  

bad conference or good conference lots of closely matched teams ???

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by Geoff Detweiler on Mar 18, 2010 9:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

Awful conference.

by MarioD on Mar 18, 2010 9:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

What is referred to as “parity” in the NFL.

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by doubleh on Mar 18, 2010 9:37 PM EDT up reply actions  

What the NHL wishes was parity.

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by Travis Hughes on Mar 19, 2010 8:04 AM EDT up reply actions  

I think the opinion that the East is weaker this year is the predominant one this year… in my opinion, it’s not so much about being closely matched, more like mediocrity + charity points = parity….

by DragonGirl0583 on Mar 18, 2010 9:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

charity point is a suck

by chrislanci on Mar 18, 2010 9:38 PM EDT up reply actions  

What the fuck just happened? Dude got hit by a shot and went after Coburn?

by MarioD on Mar 18, 2010 9:39 PM EDT reply actions  

Yeah that was amazing.

by EREX21 on Mar 18, 2010 9:40 PM EDT up reply actions  

Apparently he got checked and acted like he got shot (not necessarily by a puck). But he was fine enough to pop right back up and shove Coburn so I think he’ll be ok.

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by KreiderDesigns on Mar 18, 2010 9:40 PM EDT up reply actions  

Like Kreider said, he definitely got a cross-check from Coburn, but it wasn’t nearly as bad as he made it seem. Maybe not even a minor for cross-checking.

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by Geoff Detweiler on Mar 18, 2010 9:41 PM EDT up reply actions  

I didn’t see the “drill in the shoulder” on that replay….

by DragonGirl0583 on Mar 18, 2010 9:40 PM EDT reply actions  

Had it happened before the play they showed?

by DragonGirl0583 on Mar 18, 2010 9:40 PM EDT up reply actions  

I didn’t see a “drill in the shoulder”, but I definitely saw a cross-check.

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by Geoff Detweiler on Mar 18, 2010 9:41 PM EDT up reply actions  

WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

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by psudrozz on Mar 18, 2010 9:40 PM EDT reply actions  

so East is worse that West but is the Atlantic still the best division in the league?

by chrislanci on Mar 18, 2010 9:40 PM EDT reply actions  

Pacific is probably better being that all the teams are above 0.500

by chrislanci on Mar 18, 2010 9:41 PM EDT up reply actions  

Before this season began, on paper, that may have been a possibility… now, in reality, heck no.

by DragonGirl0583 on Mar 18, 2010 9:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

still second best in my opinion last year 4 teams made the playoffs

by chrislanci on Mar 18, 2010 9:43 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah, especially with those atrocious New York teams.

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by Geoff Detweiler on Mar 18, 2010 9:43 PM EDT up reply actions  

I wonder what Washington’s record would look like if they didn’t play in a division not fit for the AHL.

by EREX21 on Mar 18, 2010 9:43 PM EDT up reply actions  

Well, I think they’d still be 1st in the East if they were in the Northeast. They’d at least be near Pittsburgh if they were in the Atlantic. I don’t know enough about the West, but I’d imagine they’d still be at or atop the Central and Northwest, maybe below SJ in the Pacific though.

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by Geoff Detweiler on Mar 18, 2010 9:45 PM EDT up reply actions  

I agree, they would be winning the division for sure but I think it ends there…I guess they would have to be at least a top 3 seed but they wouldn’t be running away with the East like they are.

by EREX21 on Mar 18, 2010 9:47 PM EDT up reply actions  

Oh, certainly not.

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by Geoff Detweiler on Mar 18, 2010 9:48 PM EDT up reply actions  

Isn’t SJ like a paper tiger though…they seem to choke in the play-offs or so it has been said.

by j reed on Mar 18, 2010 9:47 PM EDT up reply actions  

They are the Braves of the NHL.

by EREX21 on Mar 18, 2010 9:47 PM EDT up reply actions  

Do they have a big, fat, obnoxious asshole of a manager, too?

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by doubleh on Mar 18, 2010 9:48 PM EDT up reply actions  

Big and fat no…obnoxious…sorta.

by EREX21 on Mar 18, 2010 9:49 PM EDT up reply actions  

Oh man, are you prepared for all the “Bobby Cox – best manager in MLB history – makes final visit to (insert city here)” stories?

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by Geoff Detweiler on Mar 18, 2010 9:50 PM EDT up reply actions  

Not even the best manager in his division but sure, bring it on.

by EREX21 on Mar 18, 2010 9:51 PM EDT up reply actions  

I just gonna say we have 6 months of Bobby Cox acclolades to put up with

by j reed on Mar 18, 2010 9:51 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yes, I have a year’s supply of barf bags ready to go. It’s a lie. All those talented teams and only one title? Puh-lease. He does lead the league in ejections, though. And wife beating.

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by doubleh on Mar 18, 2010 9:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

overvalued pitching at the the cost of their hitting…

by j reed on Mar 18, 2010 9:53 PM EDT up reply actions  

And bullpen for many years. You can’t have CY at all 5 rotation spots.

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by doubleh on Mar 18, 2010 9:53 PM EDT up reply actions  

But, but, but Halladay, Lee, Hamels, Blanton, Happ! Screw prospects.

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by Geoff Detweiler on Mar 18, 2010 9:56 PM EDT up reply actions  

hahaha…Lee the head hunter.

by EREX21 on Mar 18, 2010 9:57 PM EDT up reply actions  

he is losing on the Cocain snorting though to the guy in Texas and Darry Strawberry if he is coaching anywhere

by chrislanci on Mar 18, 2010 9:53 PM EDT up reply actions  

I got it …but they are the reserve in that they’re offensive right …not all pitching and chipper jones hitting

by j reed on Mar 18, 2010 9:49 PM EDT up reply actions  

Paper tiger might be a bit much – they do perform in the regular season at least. But they don’t show up in the playoffs.

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by Geoff Detweiler on Mar 18, 2010 9:48 PM EDT up reply actions  

Simon Gagne: pretty damn good when healthy.

by Ben Feldman on Mar 18, 2010 9:40 PM EDT reply actions  

Does anyone remember who wanted to trade Gagne at the deadline? I have some serious mocking to do.

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by ToddtheFox on Mar 18, 2010 9:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

Well, I was all for Gagne to Florida for Vokoun. At this point, I think it’s a wash. But mock if you wish.

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by Geoff Detweiler on Mar 18, 2010 9:43 PM EDT up reply actions  

Ok, Vokoun for Gagne is alright. But someone wanted anything the Flyers could get for him.

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by ToddtheFox on Mar 18, 2010 9:45 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah, no. All those “for a bag of pucks” jokes (whether it be Briere, Coburn, Gagne, Hartnell) really irk me, personally.

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by Geoff Detweiler on Mar 18, 2010 9:46 PM EDT up reply actions  

Can we trade your feelings for a bag of pucks?

by EREX21 on Mar 18, 2010 9:47 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

haha, I think that’s too steep a price to pay. I’m missing a few feelings.

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by Geoff Detweiler on Mar 18, 2010 9:49 PM EDT up reply actions  

A puck and a used water bottle and that’s as low as I go.

by EREX21 on Mar 18, 2010 9:49 PM EDT up reply actions  

haha

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by Geoff Detweiler on Mar 18, 2010 9:51 PM EDT up reply actions  

+1…i would have hated to lose Gagne, but some people were willing tod ump him for anything

by edbro on Mar 18, 2010 9:43 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah, that was me as an alternative if they couldn’t trade Hartnell for Vokoun. Granted Gagne won’t waive his NTC for anyone but the Habs, but regardless, feel free to mock.

by Ben Feldman on Mar 18, 2010 9:43 PM EDT up reply actions  

I think it always happens though, we’ve had groups of people turn on Carter, turn on Briere, turn on Gags, turn on Hartnell…. it all goes in phases and cycles….

by DragonGirl0583 on Mar 18, 2010 9:43 PM EDT up reply actions  

On WIP, they just hate all of them.

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by doubleh on Mar 18, 2010 9:44 PM EDT up reply actions  

On WIP, they just all hate life.

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by kmblue on Mar 18, 2010 9:45 PM EDT up reply actions  

I would trade Gagne for either Vokoun or some good draft picks. He has value and the Flyers need to make changes. The “gagne is good you can’t trade him!” is the exact type of stagnant thinking that has them in this hole of mediocrity.

by MarioD on Mar 18, 2010 9:45 PM EDT up reply actions  

Trades that generate value back are fair. Not salary dump trades just for the heck of it.

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by ToddtheFox on Mar 18, 2010 9:48 PM EDT up reply actions  

that’s how we do it

by j reed on Mar 18, 2010 9:40 PM EDT reply actions  

Sweet goal!

I need the “Bro Hymn” on my computer so I can play it after goals.

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by KreiderDesigns on Mar 18, 2010 9:41 PM EDT reply actions  

SCORE damn I still wish we had Knuble on that line

by chrislanci on Mar 18, 2010 9:42 PM EDT reply actions  

Agreed. Took me awhile to come around on Knubs but I really miss him now.

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by KreiderDesigns on Mar 18, 2010 9:43 PM EDT up reply actions  

and his 25 goals on the right side

by chrislanci on Mar 18, 2010 9:44 PM EDT up reply actions  

The thing about Knuble I hated at first was I saw potential for closer to like 50-60 goals b/c that dude missed open nets like Eric Desjardins. Used to call him “Useless” but now wish we still had him.

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by KreiderDesigns on Mar 18, 2010 9:47 PM EDT up reply actions  

Good presence in front of the net. Don’t have as much of that now without him.

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by doubleh on Mar 18, 2010 9:47 PM EDT up reply actions  

hes having a great year for the caps… i think like about 25 goals and a +18 last time i checked

by edbro on Mar 18, 2010 9:48 PM EDT up reply actions  

the whole caps teams is + a million the have a +79 goal differential because they are playing in the AHL division

by chrislanci on Mar 18, 2010 9:49 PM EDT up reply actions  

I don’t know that theres anyone I want touching the puck more than gagne right now

by Kozlowski22 on Mar 18, 2010 9:42 PM EDT reply actions  

I’m still a little peeved that he didn’t go out for the shootout, but hey, no guarantee he would have scored if he did; I just thought he should have gone based on recent events

by DragonGirl0583 on Mar 18, 2010 9:46 PM EDT up reply actions  

NICE SHIFT

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by psudrozz on Mar 18, 2010 9:43 PM EDT reply actions  

damn puck rolled on richards

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by psudrozz on Mar 18, 2010 9:44 PM EDT reply actions  

starting to take over here in the 2nd stanza

by chrislanci on Mar 18, 2010 9:45 PM EDT reply actions  

Gags getting cold spray on the bench. Somewhere Panotch is panicking.

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by KreiderDesigns on Mar 18, 2010 9:48 PM EDT reply actions  

Hot flashes…out for the rest of the week.

by EREX21 on Mar 18, 2010 9:48 PM EDT up reply actions  

Hahahaha. Nice.

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by KreiderDesigns on Mar 18, 2010 9:49 PM EDT up reply actions  

his hands are on Fire (insert Regis impression here)

by chrislanci on Mar 18, 2010 9:50 PM EDT up reply actions  

I think it’s safe to say Travis is asleep.

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by Geoff Detweiler on Mar 18, 2010 9:51 PM EDT reply actions  

what is he so tired from?

by EREX21 on Mar 18, 2010 9:53 PM EDT up reply actions  

No idea. I vaguely remember a Tweet that he was up until 2 last night… Could be wrong.

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by Geoff Detweiler on Mar 18, 2010 9:53 PM EDT up reply actions  

he said sleep is for the weak must have wussed out

by chrislanci on Mar 18, 2010 9:54 PM EDT up reply actions  

st patty’s day casualty

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by psudrozz on Mar 18, 2010 9:54 PM EDT up reply actions  

understandable i guess.

by EREX21 on Mar 18, 2010 9:55 PM EDT up reply actions  

if this is true, that’d be awesome. Unfortunately, I’m not convinced he’s hungover.

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by Geoff Detweiler on Mar 18, 2010 9:56 PM EDT up reply actions  

Not accurate, sadly.

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by Travis Hughes on Mar 19, 2010 8:08 AM EDT up reply actions  

Was that it? Not trying to be stalkerish, but since you can see recent posts by clicking on someone’s name and I just looked because I thought maybe he was up writing stuff for the main page, but it shows he was commenting on a bunch of other blogs here at 2:30 am….

by DragonGirl0583 on Mar 18, 2010 9:58 PM EDT up reply actions  

oh, I have no idea. Unlike you, I don’t stalk. But I wouldn’t be surprised if he was on SBN 10 hours a night, after working 8 hours at his job during the day. These new responsibilities are probably very time consuming.

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by Geoff Detweiler on Mar 18, 2010 9:59 PM EDT up reply actions  

Haha, I wasn’t trying to stalk, it’s not like I looked before just then… I just thought it was no worse to look at that than to speculate about him being hung over; either way we’re talking about him behind his back (though he can read it later)

by DragonGirl0583 on Mar 18, 2010 10:01 PM EDT up reply actions  

too late…you already said, not trying to be stalkerish…you can’t take it back.

by EREX21 on Mar 18, 2010 10:02 PM EDT up reply actions  

haha, him and Ben talked about me behind my back on the radio show. What’s your excuse?

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by Geoff Detweiler on Mar 18, 2010 10:02 PM EDT up reply actions  

damn, I forgot you’d hear that….

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by Travis Hughes on Mar 19, 2010 8:09 AM EDT up reply actions  

PK? i miss something?

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by psudrozz on Mar 18, 2010 9:53 PM EDT reply actions  

haha, glad I’m not the only one.

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by Geoff Detweiler on Mar 18, 2010 9:54 PM EDT up reply actions  

Did….did they just….they just played defense and cleared a rebound for Boosh! I think they’re coming around to the crafty veteran!

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by KreiderDesigns on Mar 18, 2010 9:54 PM EDT reply actions  

That replay they just showed? Haha, no, Boosh caused the Stars chance, then made two really nice saves on his own.

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by Geoff Detweiler on Mar 18, 2010 9:55 PM EDT up reply actions  

Oh ok, switched back from Legally Blonde Man Vs. Wild and saw someone clearing a puck out from a bad situation. Got excited for a minute.

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by KreiderDesigns on Mar 18, 2010 9:56 PM EDT up reply actions  

haha, nice.

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by Geoff Detweiler on Mar 18, 2010 9:57 PM EDT up reply actions  

Thanks broadcaster, for using the penatly call as a tease before the commercial instead of just informing meet your job description says…

Got caught on basketball, did they show what the penalty was? Who was it on?

by MarioD on Mar 18, 2010 9:54 PM EDT reply actions  

Therien didn’t see it on WIP

by chrislanci on Mar 18, 2010 9:55 PM EDT up reply actions  

Timonen just left the box… someone above said it was a holding call.

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by Geoff Detweiler on Mar 18, 2010 9:55 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah, I’m watching dallas coverage online, they showed Timonen holding on the replay.

by edbro on Mar 18, 2010 9:55 PM EDT up reply actions  

timmonen

holding the stick i think

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by psudrozz on Mar 18, 2010 9:55 PM EDT up reply actions  

Kimmo nice blocked shot

by j reed on Mar 18, 2010 9:55 PM EDT reply actions  

One thing I miss about Leighton: Not being able to smother shots resulted in much faster games.

by MarioD on Mar 18, 2010 9:56 PM EDT reply actions   1 recs

Nice.

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by Geoff Detweiler on Mar 18, 2010 9:57 PM EDT up reply actions  

haha yeah, those rebounds kept the game flowing for sure.

by edbro on Mar 18, 2010 9:57 PM EDT up reply actions  

That’s sort of a backhanded compliment there, Mario.

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by doubleh on Mar 18, 2010 9:57 PM EDT up reply actions  

And people say you are a pessimist.

by EREX21 on Mar 18, 2010 9:58 PM EDT up reply actions  

it certainly broke my defibulator

by j reed on Mar 18, 2010 9:58 PM EDT up reply actions  

That save still gives me goosebumps. If only that series had ended in something better than the sideways 88

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by KreiderDesigns on Mar 18, 2010 9:59 PM EDT reply actions  

i will never forgive lindros for coming back and screwing up that lineup

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by psudrozz on Mar 18, 2010 9:59 PM EDT up reply actions  

I was 14 and at Game 7. Still, I have forgiven him.

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by KreiderDesigns on Mar 18, 2010 10:00 PM EDT up reply actions  

I will never forget being at that game.

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by JFein on Mar 18, 2010 10:01 PM EDT up reply actions  

Me neither. That game and the Wrestlemania where DX split up and HHH Pedigreed Shawn Michaels are the two times I’ve had my heart broken in front of 1,000s of people at the Center. Like being kicked in the nuts of my heart.

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by KreiderDesigns on Mar 18, 2010 10:03 PM EDT up reply actions  

hahahahaha…that’s why they call him the heartbreak kid.

by EREX21 on Mar 18, 2010 10:05 PM EDT up reply actions  

Funniest thing was my cheapskate uncle had just bought me a $40 DX jersey right before that match. He never bought me anything before….or since actually. Haha.

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by KreiderDesigns on Mar 18, 2010 10:07 PM EDT up reply actions  

Every time they show that replay, I want to see the puck in Boucher’s eye. I remember his reaction scared the shit outta me, because the puck scared the shit outta him.

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by Geoff Detweiler on Mar 18, 2010 10:00 PM EDT up reply actions  

speaking of scary, remember the no call on the brodeur high stick that slashed open leclaire’s face?

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by psudrozz on Mar 18, 2010 10:01 PM EDT up reply actions  

actually, I don’t.

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by Geoff Detweiler on Mar 18, 2010 10:02 PM EDT up reply actions  

Thank you. I just watched that whole clip rather than this game. That series made me think Boucher was going to be the goalie here for a decade.

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by Geoff Detweiler on Mar 18, 2010 10:07 PM EDT up reply actions  

…And then there was Bill Barber. Damn shame, that whole thing.

by Ben Feldman on Mar 18, 2010 10:09 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah, but I always remember that quote from a few years ago saying how Boucher’s holdout was the worst thing for him, since he then put all these expectations on himself with the hefty new contract. He basically admitted he wasn’t ready to handle the pressure.

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by Geoff Detweiler on Mar 18, 2010 10:13 PM EDT up reply actions  

My mom was so worried that Booosh’s face was going to be ruined after that. She loves him.

That clip just made me miss ESPN hockey coverage. Even Panger.

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by KreiderDesigns on Mar 18, 2010 10:10 PM EDT up reply actions  

Number of Pens-Bruins games on atdhe.net that don’t require Sopcast = 3
Number of Flyers-Stars games on atdhe.net that don’t require Sopcast = 0.

Come on people, you all obviously have computers. Help a brother out.

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by ToddtheFox on Mar 18, 2010 10:00 PM EDT reply actions  

just get sopcast, the feed is perfect, i’ve been watching it.

by edbro on Mar 18, 2010 10:01 PM EDT up reply actions  

I can’t install anything on University computers sadly.

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by ToddtheFox on Mar 18, 2010 10:02 PM EDT up reply actions  

oh, that’s a different story then, i looked i can’t find anything other than that one sopcast feed.

by edbro on Mar 18, 2010 10:03 PM EDT up reply actions  

Just to be clear, Marquette-Washington is tied with :48 left and play is going on, yet I’m watching the opening tip-off of #1 seed Kansas.

by MarioD on Mar 18, 2010 10:00 PM EDT reply actions  

Agreed….totally f’ed up. Especially since I have Wash in the Elite Eight. After the pounding I took with G-Town I need Wash to pull through.

by EREX21 on Mar 18, 2010 10:01 PM EDT up reply actions  

The Big East is not doing very well so far in this tournament. Bah.

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by doubleh on Mar 18, 2010 10:03 PM EDT up reply actions  

Wouldn’t want to miss that tip-off of the team that’s sure to win.

"Tortorella’s got it all wrong ... Gaborik shouldn’t be messing with our skilled player." -Peter Luuko

by doubleh on Mar 18, 2010 10:02 PM EDT up reply actions  

Anyone else taking notice of the Coyotoes? Winners of 6 in a row…4th in the west and just scored 3 in the 3rd pd to tie the Panthers at 3…they seem to be legit.

by EREX21 on Mar 18, 2010 10:00 PM EDT reply actions  

they really wanted to stay in Phoenix i guess

by j reed on Mar 18, 2010 10:02 PM EDT up reply actions  

So would I. I love Phoenix. If only the wife would let us move there.

by EREX21 on Mar 18, 2010 10:02 PM EDT up reply actions  

AND FLYERS ARE GOING ON….

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by psudrozz on Mar 18, 2010 10:01 PM EDT reply actions  

the peco dick tease.

by EREX21 on Mar 18, 2010 10:02 PM EDT up reply actions  

Sounds like an STD

by phish'n on Mar 18, 2010 10:03 PM EDT up reply actions  

It certainly feels like it sometimes.

by EREX21 on Mar 18, 2010 10:04 PM EDT up reply actions  

Don’t you need to score to get an STD?

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by KreiderDesigns on Mar 18, 2010 10:05 PM EDT up reply actions  

They just need more KY.

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by doubleh on Mar 18, 2010 10:04 PM EDT up reply actions  

ARE YOU F’NG KIDDING ME? THATS THE THIRD GAME IVE LOST TODAY IN THE FINAL 5 SECONDS

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by psudrozz on Mar 18, 2010 10:03 PM EDT reply actions  

they call it March Madness for a reason

by j reed on Mar 18, 2010 10:05 PM EDT up reply actions  

/grabs whiskey

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by psudrozz on Mar 18, 2010 10:07 PM EDT up reply actions  

Today has had quite a few upsets and narrow escapes.

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by doubleh on Mar 18, 2010 10:06 PM EDT up reply actions  

exactly …maddening

by j reed on Mar 18, 2010 10:07 PM EDT up reply actions  

Excellent play by Carle.

by Ben Feldman on Mar 18, 2010 10:03 PM EDT reply actions  

Embarrassing for Dallas fans, atleast get a shot off.

by edbro on Mar 18, 2010 10:05 PM EDT up reply actions  

Nevermind, Carle had before he was even close

by edbro on Mar 18, 2010 10:06 PM EDT up reply actions  

I didn’t have time to think this through and get into it on the Coburn post, but that Ribiero break away is why Coburn should be out there: Krajicek is an idiot.

Krajicek and Hartnell were on the points because Carle had pinched, and Krajicek decided to skate into the zone. He’s the dman back, he’s got to stay back and at the center of the ice, not go wandering down the zone.

by MarioD on Mar 18, 2010 10:07 PM EDT reply actions  

i think he is relying on speed, but you are right.

i wish he went back to krajicek from the first 4 games with the flyers

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by psudrozz on Mar 18, 2010 10:08 PM EDT up reply actions  

Krajicek has been wrong on about all on his forays into the offensive zone since the break

by chrislanci on Mar 18, 2010 10:09 PM EDT up reply actions  

And the Flyers could’ve had Nick Boynton for half his salary on Monday.

by MarioD on Mar 18, 2010 10:09 PM EDT up reply actions  

the fact Bonyton clear waivers twice says something about the guy nobody wants him at any price

by chrislanci on Mar 18, 2010 10:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

age, injury , dispostition? just curious

by j reed on Mar 18, 2010 10:12 PM EDT up reply actions  

The fact that Chicago traded FOR him two weeks ago says what exactly?

by MarioD on Mar 18, 2010 10:13 PM EDT up reply actions  

okay CHI wanted him I guess but they could have gotten him for nothing and he did clear waivers twice regardless of the trade.

by chrislanci on Mar 18, 2010 10:15 PM EDT up reply actions  

They’re too stupid to realize they could have given up nothing while paying him half of what they are now?

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by Geoff Detweiler on Mar 18, 2010 10:16 PM EDT up reply actions  

Agreed. Though it turned out to be a HUGE move with Campbell done for the year.

by MarioD on Mar 18, 2010 10:21 PM EDT up reply actions  

Certainly.

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by Geoff Detweiler on Mar 18, 2010 10:23 PM EDT up reply actions  

is that by design i.e. the coach or just him trying to hard and being stupid

by j reed on Mar 18, 2010 10:10 PM EDT up reply actions  

Well, I see your point too, but Hartnell left his position too. Yes, Krajicek can’t do that, but I’m guessing he assumed Hartnell stayed with his man rather than go into the slot.

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by Geoff Detweiler on Mar 18, 2010 10:10 PM EDT up reply actions  

First off, that’s not Hartnell’s position (that’s Lavi’s fault). Even if Hartnell had been in the center of the ice, you don’t want Ribiero on Hartnell on that break. You want a dman back.

Second, Hartnell is on the PP in the O-zone, he’s trying to shake free of Dallas players, not stay with them.

by MarioD on Mar 18, 2010 10:12 PM EDT up reply actions  

No, everything you said is correct. But if he’s “covering” the point, he has to, you know, cover the point. He didn’t.

This isn’t to say Krajicek is innocent, he’s not. But they’re both idiots, one just has an excuse (I’m a forward!).

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by Geoff Detweiler on Mar 18, 2010 10:14 PM EDT up reply actions  

Basically, I’m saying both Hartnell and Krajicek needed to retreat. Neither did. That should have been a 1-on-2, resuling in Ribiero dumping the puck in at the red line. Both pinched, resulting in a breakway. Krajicek can’t pressure the guy who just blocked his shot, but Hartnell also can’t abandon the point, even if that shot wasn’t blocked.

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by Geoff Detweiler on Mar 18, 2010 10:16 PM EDT up reply actions  

Okay.

I don’t know where he was. He passed from all the way on the side of the ice, and Ribiero went up the middle. I never saw Hartnell in the picture again.

Given Carle caught up, I am unsure if he and Hartnell were switching back as Krajicek shot. That would explain how Carle caught him.

by MarioD on Mar 18, 2010 10:20 PM EDT up reply actions  

I think they were, but Hartnell jumped up too soon.

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by Geoff Detweiler on Mar 18, 2010 10:22 PM EDT up reply actions  

Apparently Hartnell has the flu…so why would he even be in a lung burner stituation like a PP

by j reed on Mar 18, 2010 10:15 PM EDT up reply actions  

if you are going to play you gotta play all the way you can’t be worried about guys because they are sick either you are in and play were you would or you sit

by chrislanci on Mar 18, 2010 10:17 PM EDT up reply actions  

actually that’s really my point…he shouldn’t be playing if he’s a liability esp. with the condensed sch. If he gets more sick that could be bad and he just might spread it around to the lockeroom

by j reed on Mar 18, 2010 10:20 PM EDT up reply actions  

He’s on the road trip, so I’m not sure it matters from a contamination standpoint.

by MarioD on Mar 18, 2010 10:22 PM EDT up reply actions  

you gotta point but you could give him a seperate room….the rhino virus loves to habitate in nice warm lung tissue…hockey obliges nicely

by j reed on Mar 18, 2010 10:32 PM EDT up reply actions  

Is the Carter line getting mis-matched because Dallas has last change, or are they just having a worse defensive game than normal? Also, Hartnell’s illness might have something to do with it too.

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by Geoff Detweiler on Mar 18, 2010 10:26 PM EDT reply actions  

I really liked Carcillo’s last shift. Great patience with the puck, good passes, nice hard work.

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by Geoff Detweiler on Mar 18, 2010 10:28 PM EDT reply actions  

I agree. Sometimes I think he plays above his hands (meaning he thinks he can dangle like Giroux or pass like Richie) but when he makes the smart plays and stays within himself he’s very impressive.

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by KreiderDesigns on Mar 18, 2010 10:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

There was a good shift by JVR. First one I’ve noticed tonight…

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by Geoff Detweiler on Mar 18, 2010 10:30 PM EDT reply actions  

So he should be good in the next few to make up for the ones he hasn’t been good in.

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by ToddtheFox on Mar 18, 2010 10:31 PM EDT up reply actions  

Just enough to even it out though.

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by Geoff Detweiler on Mar 18, 2010 10:32 PM EDT up reply actions  

of course. Most averagest player in the league!

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by ToddtheFox on Mar 18, 2010 10:33 PM EDT up reply actions  

But the half of that is counting against next year’s cap!

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by Geoff Detweiler on Mar 18, 2010 10:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah, I don’t think that’s true. I know it was reported, but it doesn’t make sense. AND, its not an option under the CBA. Even if the Flyers wanted to reduce payroll next year, they can’t elect to move that hit.

by MarioD on Mar 18, 2010 10:38 PM EDT up reply actions  

I thought they could? Didn’t we talk about that awhile ago? Or was that only one of those “they can move it if they have to” exemptions?

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by Geoff Detweiler on Mar 18, 2010 10:39 PM EDT up reply actions  

The NHL calculates the bonuses at the end of the year. If there’s overflow bonus money, it goes to the following year.

But I don’t think you can elect to have it count the following year.

by MarioD on Mar 18, 2010 10:40 PM EDT up reply actions  

So Homer could be saved from his own stupidity? That’s… sadly awesome.

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by Geoff Detweiler on Mar 18, 2010 10:41 PM EDT up reply actions  

Well, you wouldn’t want a team like Tampa to go below the salary floor by passing bonus money forward, so it has to be done that way.

by MarioD on Mar 18, 2010 10:43 PM EDT up reply actions  

I heard someone (maybe here) speculate that it was because of the LTIR exception that we couldn’t count the bonus this year…. I can’t find language in the CBA that supports that or denies it, really. We’re allowed to exceed the cap because of Rathje being on LTIR, but maybe we can’t use the cushion created by his injury to fit the bonus into this year. I honestly don’t know

by DragonGirl0583 on Mar 18, 2010 10:40 PM EDT up reply actions  

Lower than the average salary = WIN!

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by ToddtheFox on Mar 18, 2010 10:37 PM EDT up reply actions  

I don’t think it is.

by MarioD on Mar 18, 2010 10:38 PM EDT up reply actions  

on this team it is for sure

by chrislanci on Mar 18, 2010 10:39 PM EDT up reply actions  

No, it’s not. He’s 9th out of the 23 man roster.

He’s the 6th highest paid forward on the team. He’d be 4th amongst defensemen. He’s 9th among the 21 skaters on the roster. And he’s paid more than any of the goalies they have, have had, or will have on the roster this year.

by MarioD on Mar 18, 2010 10:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

Is that team average?
On the Forecheck had him the most average player in the entire league, so I looked for average league salary.

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by ToddtheFox on Mar 18, 2010 10:44 PM EDT up reply actions  

That’s team rank in salary only.

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by Geoff Detweiler on Mar 18, 2010 10:45 PM EDT up reply actions  

average Flyers salary = 60 million / 23 = 2.6 million on average he is 1 million below the average salary per player.

by chrislanci on Mar 18, 2010 11:45 PM EDT up reply actions  

On the Forecheck rankings were also mean-based.

by MarioD on Mar 18, 2010 10:47 PM EDT up reply actions  

So… WIN?

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by ToddtheFox on Mar 18, 2010 10:48 PM EDT up reply actions  

Well it’s lower than the 4th least valuable player on the same list, Braydon Coburn.

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by Geoff Detweiler on Mar 18, 2010 10:39 PM EDT up reply actions  

I only looked quickly and saw in 2007-2008 the average salary was $1.8 million. But I have no idea where to look for a more accurate number

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by ToddtheFox on Mar 18, 2010 10:39 PM EDT up reply actions  

Numbers went up after that season. I believe the Cap jumped several million dollars from 2007-08 to 2008-09. Then held steady last summer.

by MarioD on Mar 18, 2010 10:45 PM EDT up reply actions  

I thought I heard the players voted to use the escrow to keep it even when it could have dropped lower for this year, was that true?

by DragonGirl0583 on Mar 18, 2010 10:49 PM EDT up reply actions  

Boucher would like another chance to control that shot.

by MarioD on Mar 18, 2010 10:30 PM EDT reply actions  

leino = jedi.

got it

Eat what the monkey eats, then eat the monkey. -U.S. Navy survival guidance

by psudrozz on Mar 18, 2010 10:30 PM EDT reply actions  

So what have I missed...

was watching the Coyotes amazing comeback…did happen to see the Gagne goal…and the second Ott goal…

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by Jordan Ellel on Mar 18, 2010 10:31 PM EDT reply actions  

A pretty quiet game, really. Boucher is solid, has even made a few real nice saves, but that’s about it.

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by Geoff Detweiler on Mar 18, 2010 10:33 PM EDT up reply actions  

thats the way to hop on the ice carbomb!

by Prometheus74 on Mar 18, 2010 10:31 PM EDT reply actions  

hahah what a hit by carcillo off the bench

by edbro on Mar 18, 2010 10:32 PM EDT reply actions  

For the love of christ, someone eject the moron behind Leigtonen who bangs on the glass everytime the puck enters the zone.

by MarioD on Mar 18, 2010 10:34 PM EDT reply actions  

I think he’s just a passionate fan, soaking up every minute of the game.

by edbro on Mar 18, 2010 10:35 PM EDT up reply actions  

who just caught a puck

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by psudrozz on Mar 18, 2010 10:39 PM EDT up reply actions  

YES

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by psudrozz on Mar 18, 2010 10:35 PM EDT reply actions  

hartnell or carter?

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by psudrozz on Mar 18, 2010 10:35 PM EDT reply actions  

cartnell or harter

by j reed on Mar 18, 2010 10:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

I love these ugly goals
Hard work, but nice n ugly

by Prometheus74 on Mar 18, 2010 10:36 PM EDT reply actions  

wow...

ugly goal there…but you need them as much as anything else…

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by Jordan Ellel on Mar 18, 2010 10:36 PM EDT reply actions  

Nice job hartnell

by edbro on Mar 18, 2010 10:36 PM EDT reply actions  

Just how they drew it up?

And why was Leightonen so far out of position? Did it deflect between Carter and the crease?

by MarioD on Mar 18, 2010 10:36 PM EDT reply actions  

are you that cleaver using Leighton-en and not Lehtonen or is that a slip

by chrislanci on Mar 18, 2010 10:37 PM EDT up reply actions  

Against the Flyers its usually spelled Lettin-it-in

"Good night. Good hockey."

by KreiderDesigns on Mar 18, 2010 10:38 PM EDT up reply actions  

haha that is win.

Oh, This is bound to be good
You can't, but you thought that You could

by jello44 on Mar 18, 2010 10:39 PM EDT up reply actions  

Well played.

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by KreiderDesigns on Mar 18, 2010 10:41 PM EDT up reply actions  

Thought it was spelled that way

by MarioD on Mar 18, 2010 10:46 PM EDT up reply actions  

it was a nice joke but honest counts for something

by chrislanci on Mar 18, 2010 10:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

shhhh

Eat what the monkey eats, then eat the monkey. -U.S. Navy survival guidance

by psudrozz on Mar 18, 2010 10:37 PM EDT up reply actions  

BOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOSSSSHHHHH

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by KreiderDesigns on Mar 18, 2010 10:40 PM EDT reply actions  

Why was Boucher benched for 3 months?

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by Geoff Detweiler on Mar 18, 2010 10:41 PM EDT reply actions  

I’m wondering if someone looks at the Hurricanes Cup winning year and see’s how he rode his goalies then?

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by ToddtheFox on Mar 18, 2010 10:43 PM EDT up reply actions  

Similar situation…rode one guy until he got hurt and then rode Ward to the cup.

by EREX21 on Mar 18, 2010 10:44 PM EDT up reply actions  

I looked at a few of his recent years, and this is what I found:

He started Cam Ward 67 times in 07-08 and 17 out of 25 games in 08-09. Looking back at 07-08, he started riding Cam Ward in January (16 games in a row, 2 games off, then 20 in a row to end the season)

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by Geoff Detweiler on Mar 18, 2010 10:45 PM EDT up reply actions  

Well sure. When your backup is Michae…oh wait.

by Ben Feldman on Mar 18, 2010 10:50 PM EDT up reply actions  

So its like his modus operandi

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by ToddtheFox on Mar 18, 2010 10:51 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah, but until January, Ward played 31 of 44 games. If I remember correctly, it was never more than 6 games in a row. Plus, Leighton is no Cam Ward.

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by Geoff Detweiler on Mar 18, 2010 10:53 PM EDT up reply actions  

Because Lavvi hates him. Duh.

by EREX21 on Mar 18, 2010 10:43 PM EDT up reply actions  

Coatsey-Jones-JJ are in rare form tonight. As Tracy Morgan says “BANTER!”

"Good night. Good hockey."

by KreiderDesigns on Mar 18, 2010 10:42 PM EDT reply actions  

oh my…

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by psudrozz on Mar 18, 2010 10:45 PM EDT reply actions  

I wish I could laugh at Ott. I sadly cannot.

by Ben Feldman on Mar 18, 2010 10:45 PM EDT reply actions  

Ben going for comment of the night with a Rhyme.

by chrislanci on Mar 18, 2010 11:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

looks like Carle’s got some gitty-up when he wants to ….

by j reed on Mar 18, 2010 10:49 PM EDT reply actions  

I so wanted to see a 4th line 2-on-1 insurance goal!

"Good night. Good hockey."

by KreiderDesigns on Mar 18, 2010 10:50 PM EDT reply actions  

I’d be happy with Kimmo getting another sweet empty netter like the one in Boston in order to get his token birthday goal….

by DragonGirl0583 on Mar 18, 2010 10:54 PM EDT up reply actions  

I would enjoy that as well. Though that check on Ott was like the birthday goal for defensemen.

"Good night. Good hockey."

by KreiderDesigns on Mar 18, 2010 10:54 PM EDT up reply actions  

hold the line guys

by j reed on Mar 18, 2010 10:52 PM EDT reply actions  

Ever notice how the Toyota Turning point is almost always the potential game winning goal. To me the turning point was the Lappy fight.

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by KreiderDesigns on Mar 18, 2010 10:53 PM EDT reply actions  

I still hate when they declare such a thing when the true “turning point” could still happen in the remaining part of the game…

by DragonGirl0583 on Mar 18, 2010 10:54 PM EDT up reply actions  

Or the check of the game halfway through the second period.

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by KreiderDesigns on Mar 18, 2010 10:55 PM EDT up reply actions  

big faceoff here where is Malhotra when you need him

by chrislanci on Mar 18, 2010 10:53 PM EDT reply actions  

no icing

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by psudrozz on Mar 18, 2010 10:54 PM EDT reply actions  

Interesting:
Betts-Lappy-Gagne-Carle-Pronger out there with 1:00 left
Gagne-Carter-Richards-Kimmo-Pronger out there for the faceoff with :40 left.

by MarioD on Mar 18, 2010 10:54 PM EDT reply actions  

BOOOOOSHHH!!!

"Good night. Good hockey."

by KreiderDesigns on Mar 18, 2010 10:55 PM EDT reply actions  

jesus

3 stars
1. boucher
2. hartnell
3. gagne

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by psudrozz on Mar 18, 2010 10:56 PM EDT reply actions  

I can’t tell you all how happy I am for Boosh coming up with a big win like that.

"Good night. Good hockey."

by KreiderDesigns on Mar 18, 2010 10:56 PM EDT reply actions  

Ditto.

Awesome to see him get this win.

by sneech on Mar 18, 2010 10:57 PM EDT up reply actions  

Preaching to the choir, dude, I’m in total agreement

by DragonGirl0583 on Mar 18, 2010 10:58 PM EDT up reply actions  

He needed this. Feel bad for the guy being A) stuck in during a losing streak B) coming in the middle of a losing game(s).

by Leclairfan on Mar 18, 2010 11:25 PM EDT up reply actions  

there we go….I guess the 14th time in Dallas was the charm

by j reed on Mar 18, 2010 10:56 PM EDT reply actions  

But we still didn’t get a PP goal

by DragonGirl0583 on Mar 18, 2010 10:57 PM EDT up reply actions  

that’s true…is that just one of those oddities of hockey…it seems unlikely as the PP is such an essential part of the game

by j reed on Mar 18, 2010 11:00 PM EDT up reply actions  

It’s the fact that they brought up at the beginning of the game that we’ve never gotten one in Dallas, that’s the only reason I said that

by DragonGirl0583 on Mar 18, 2010 11:02 PM EDT up reply actions  

That last flurry was huge.

The initial save was an easy one, but the key was kicking the puck out sideways instead of it sitting in front of him. By kicking it to the side, he was still in sound position to stop the rebound, even though he had been sliding out of the net to stop the initial shot.

Bouch is never going to stop either of those first two goals. But that last save he made in the game is the difference between him and Leighton.

by MarioD on Mar 18, 2010 10:57 PM EDT reply actions  

the last few times out of the net things got hinky…however I didn’t feel the same panic that i do with Leighton when he gets out there

by j reed on Mar 18, 2010 11:03 PM EDT up reply actions  

good points Leighton did hang on tight in the Blackhawks game though still sticking with my thoughts all season SCORE 3 and win

Flyers are 31-7-1 when scoring 3 or more goals

vs

5-21-4 when scoring 2 or fewer goals

by chrislanci on Mar 18, 2010 11:07 PM EDT up reply actions  

I only saw the third period of the Hawks game but he played well. I think Leighton might have performed better in some games if he was rested properly…

by j reed on Mar 18, 2010 11:18 PM EDT up reply actions  

They remind me so much of the Phillies sometimes.

"Tortorella’s got it all wrong ... Gaborik shouldn’t be messing with our skilled player." -Peter Luuko

by doubleh on Mar 18, 2010 11:21 PM EDT up reply actions  

Sometimes good, sometimes bad. Suck against mediocre tenders, do better against good ones. Phils had a similar record last year when scoring 3 or more runs. If they scored fewer than 3, they tended to lose.

"Tortorella’s got it all wrong ... Gaborik shouldn’t be messing with our skilled player." -Peter Luuko

by doubleh on Mar 18, 2010 11:35 PM EDT up reply actions  

Exactly!!! They have the firepower and D to accomplish this, but its hockey and bounces dont always go your way. But for whatever reason i dont think they play a full 60 min of hockey every night. Of course I am just watching the game and its easier to say this.

by Leclairfan on Mar 18, 2010 11:22 PM EDT up reply actions  

that record indicates goaltending is not the issue we need to score another winger would have been huge if we had Knuble we probably would have a much better record being that we would be scoring 3 goals more often he was the most consistent scorer on the team Hartnell and Gagne are very streaky

by chrislanci on Mar 18, 2010 11:26 PM EDT up reply actions  

Bouch has stopped 51/54 shots since Leighton got hurt.

by MarioD on Mar 18, 2010 11:04 PM EDT reply actions  

I think its 62/65 if you count his relief effort in the Boston game.

"Good night. Good hockey."

by KreiderDesigns on Mar 18, 2010 11:06 PM EDT up reply actions  

He gave up one goal against Boston – that ridiculously unfair 2-on-1.

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by Geoff Detweiler on Mar 18, 2010 11:08 PM EDT up reply actions  

god dammit you all need a BABIP and FIP equivalent for goalies….it so great no tiresome debating…and get rid of the friggin W-L thing

by j reed on Mar 18, 2010 11:12 PM EDT up reply actions  

I was just about to put that up, haha.

But that even counts those bad goals given up in the first 2 minutes of relief, even with the rust. Those are very respectable numbers.

by DragonGirl0583 on Mar 18, 2010 11:13 PM EDT up reply actions  

Good call, Geoff. My math sucks. I was an english major. Numbers are not my strong suit.

"Good night. Good hockey."

by KreiderDesigns on Mar 18, 2010 11:10 PM EDT reply actions  


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