Game 62, Preview and Game Thread: Dance With the Team You Have, Philadelphia Flyers at Florida Panthers
by Geoff Detweiler on Mar 3, 2010 6:00 PM EST
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Philadelphia Flyers at Florida Panthers, Mar 3, 2010 7:30 PM EST
#6 Philadelphia Flyers (33-25-3, 69 pts) at #13 Florida Panthers (24-28-10, 58 pts)
BankAtlantic Center - 7:30 PM ET - Sunrise, FL
TV: Versus HD, CSNPhilly HD
Radio: 610 WIP
This is the open game thread.
Get Florida reaction at Litter Box Cats
YAAAAWN. That's the general reaction to today's deadline which saw the Flyers abstain from making a move. Good or bad, these are the guys expected to bring the Cup back to Philadelphia.
But enough about the trading deadline: there is a hockey game tonight after all. Tonight, the Flyers take their five-game winning streak into Sunrise to face the Panthers. Aside from the Flyers winning streak, the next two biggest stories are the Flyers playing against the goalie a lot of people wanted and David Booth's first game against the Flyers since being concussed by Mike Richards.
In anticipation of Booth's return against the Flyers, the Sun-Sentinel asked how he feels to share the ice with Richards again:
"We’ve got to get two points, that’s the bottom line. …But it’ll be an interesting game, sure. "
I asked him if he would try to return the favor from October with a big hit or if he would challenge Richards to a fight.
Booth responded: "I’m just going to play my game. I have to get back to playing physical. You see that in the Olympics. Everyone’s finishing their hits, everyone’s winning battles and that’s something I’ve got to get back to. I can’t get sidetracked with the other things."
So that's that. Fairly typical answer, essentially nothing to see here, move along.
As far as Tomas Vokoun goes, it will be interesting to see how he plays after offering to waive his no-trade clause for a select few teams. Assuming Philadelphia was one of those teams, he will likely want to impress by showing he was worth whatever offer Paul Holmgren refused.
By beating Booth and Vokoun tonight, the Flyers can tie the season series at two games apiece.
After the jump, Projected Lineups, Expected Starting Goaltenders, Questions to Answer, and our in-game discussion thread.
Flyers Line Combinations
Gagne - Richards - Carcillo
Hartnell - Carter - Briere
JVR - Giroux - Asham
Powe - Betts - Laperriere
Pronger - Carle
Timonen - Krajicek
Parent - Coburn
No expected changes.
Florida Line Combinations
Booth - Weiss - Stillman
Frolik - Reinprecht - Dvorak
Campbell - Matthias - Olesz
Kreps - Moore - Oreskovich
Ballard - McCabe
Kulikov - Allen
Garrison - Ellerby
No idea on the defensive pairings, since Leopold and Seidenberg were traded in the past two days. Ellerby has only played two games this year amassing a whopping 6:55 of total ice time.
Starting Goaltenders
Questions to Answer:
- With the assurances that nobody will be traded (ignoring waiver trades), do the Flyers come out like they did last night?
- There were rumors of a potential deal involving Jeff Carter for Tomas Vokoun: In a ridiculously small one game sample, does Carter prove more valuable?
- The Panthers defense is... significantly weaker than it was on Sunday. Can the Flyers take advantage?
- Nobody got traded or fired today, so can the team best their efforts from last year's game against Calgary (after Upshall was traded) and this year's game against Washington (after Stevens was fired)?
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MEOW!
Putting the cats out of the house tonight!
The only guaranteed panther victory tonight:
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by orangeandblack20 on Mar 3, 2010 7:02 PM EST up reply actions
If you caught the 6:30 special it made it feel a little better. Comcast did a behind the scenes of Pre/Post game live. It was pretty cool.
by orangeandblack20 on Mar 3, 2010 7:08 PM EST up reply actions
Caps are allegedly on Versus too tonight. What is going on here?
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I think there is a game on Versus on Thursday as well.
Oh, This is bound to be good
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Were on Comcast in the Philly area, and Caps are on vs in this area.
by orangeandblack20 on Mar 3, 2010 7:19 PM EST up reply actions
I just hopes that adds up to the Flyers being on Center Ice on DC DirecTV…
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by Ben Rothenberg on Mar 3, 2010 7:22 PM EST up reply actions
not in NOVA-flyers on vs apparently. not happy about it either:
http://espn.go.com/nhl/schedule
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Yeah, but apparently Versus is showing the game too (in other areas apparently)… I put it in there when I wasn’t sure which was true.
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by Geoff Detweiler on Mar 3, 2010 7:25 PM EST up reply actions
I don’t know why Versus wouldn’t bump Buffalo-Washington to the national one. Ride this Ryan Miller day for all it’s worth.
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hell, sportscenter this morning had no fewer than 3 highlights from hockey in the top ten.
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Not sure. As Ben says below Laviolette said a player was banged up.
Powe out. Laviolette said he was “banged up”.
do i watch the philly feed in non-HD, or versus in HD with the sounds off?
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anyone have the radio feed? it’s not online, the 6ers game is on
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by CoburnsCuddleBuddy on Mar 3, 2010 7:35 PM EST reply actions
http://flyers.nhl.com/club/RadioPlayer.htm?id=2009020936
Oh, This is bound to be good
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haha, my bad. I never check the radio feed when doing previews. To be honest, I have no idea where to even find it. Guess I should ask Travis from now on.
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by Geoff Detweiler on Mar 3, 2010 7:38 PM EST up reply actions
ur breaking my balls geoff
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by CoburnsCuddleBuddy on Mar 3, 2010 7:42 PM EST up reply actions
Will Lieno take Carcillo’s spot up there, or down on the fourth line. I think they’ll probably rotate them.
by orangeandblack20 on Mar 3, 2010 7:38 PM EST reply actions
Two fights in less than five seconds.
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Anyone else remember major league 2? Bob Eucker and Donny? I have always felt that Therien’s broadcasting skills are that of Donny’s, where every time he says something I feel like Eucker would respond “dynamite drop in Donny”
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by CoburnsCuddleBuddy on Mar 3, 2010 7:40 PM EST reply actions
Lieno is on line four right now, but so is Chico.
by orangeandblack20 on Mar 3, 2010 7:41 PM EST reply actions
If Ville Leino makes his Flyers debut in an empty arena in Florida, does it count?
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Booth is pretty awesome
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yeah, very respectable move by both parties
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by Geoff Detweiler on Mar 3, 2010 7:47 PM EST up reply actions
How’d it start? I saw the highlight but they were already square when they picked up. Not much of a fight but it’s cool to see.
Killer_Carlson and Steckel Me Elmo are like brothers to me. And when I say brothers I don't mean like actual brothers. I mean it like how black people use it, which is more meaningful, I think.
by Fehr and Balanced on Mar 3, 2010 8:39 PM EST up reply actions
Just chatting in the corner behind the play, agreed to go.
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by Travis Hughes on Mar 3, 2010 8:40 PM EST up reply actions
Both were behind net, in play, talking. Then they just dropped em.
by orangeandblack20 on Mar 3, 2010 8:40 PM EST up reply actions
I’d love to hear that conversation.
Killer_Carlson and Steckel Me Elmo are like brothers to me. And when I say brothers I don't mean like actual brothers. I mean it like how black people use it, which is more meaningful, I think.
by Fehr and Balanced on Mar 3, 2010 8:40 PM EST up reply actions
Booth vs. Richards. Good to see.
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does anyone know where I can get this game on the internet. NHL gamecenter has it blacked out and channelsrfin.net is getting the washington feed.
Anyone else here is the boxing bell? Florida gets pts for that
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by CoburnsCuddleBuddy on Mar 3, 2010 7:46 PM EST reply actions
We have one too. I think it’s dumb.
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by Travis Hughes on Mar 3, 2010 7:47 PM EST up reply actions
for Booth and Richards I liked it, for everyone else, not so much
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by CoburnsCuddleBuddy on Mar 3, 2010 7:47 PM EST up reply actions
remember when the power play payoff was over 400$
yeah that sucked
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Yep.
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by Ben Rothenberg on Mar 3, 2010 7:51 PM EST up reply actions
Did anyone else just see a guy sitting right behind Laviolette knock on the glass and try to tell him to move over?
I saw someone trying to talk to him earlier – not sure if it’s the same person or as nice as “can you please move over?”
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by Geoff Detweiler on Mar 3, 2010 7:55 PM EST up reply actions
survive for 2 periods, explode in 3rd? we’ll call it the florida plan
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by CoburnsCuddleBuddy on Mar 3, 2010 7:54 PM EST reply actions
I saw Briere in that picture, but no idea where he was or should have been… Was Reinprecht his man, or Coburn’s? Cause Coburn went to the position he was supposed to, even if he wasn’t actually doing anything in said position.
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We got more than our share last night.
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by Ben Rothenberg on Mar 3, 2010 7:56 PM EST up reply actions
the post scoring orgy slump seems more predictable when the Phillies put up a 20 spot….that’s a guarenteed offensive shortage for a minium of two games as certain as the interleague bed crapping that happens every year. .
haha, so very true.
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by Geoff Detweiler on Mar 3, 2010 8:07 PM EST up reply actions
We are not playing that poorly? Am I missing something. We had a solid PP and we’ve had a few other chances. They got a lucky bounce that found the net. Calm down fellas!
by orangeandblack20 on Mar 3, 2010 7:57 PM EST reply actions
Seriously…
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by Travis Hughes on Mar 3, 2010 8:00 PM EST up reply actions
That was right after the goal. The last few shifts were very lackadasical. Before the goal it wasn’t anything noticable. Now… I’ll give it to ya
by orangeandblack20 on Mar 3, 2010 8:01 PM EST up reply actions
No, I was agreeing with you. We don’t look that bad.
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by Travis Hughes on Mar 3, 2010 8:10 PM EST up reply actions
hows Leino look?
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by CoburnsCuddleBuddy on Mar 3, 2010 8:02 PM EST reply actions
Scratches for Phantoms in Hamilton: Sloane, Bodrov, Dingle, Bellamy, Kolanos. Mormina back from Flyers and in the lineup.
Mormina is a healthy scratch and playing in the same night?
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God dammit… we can’t even avoid Crosby on CSN.
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Oh, and to make matters worse, they don’t show the penalty. This is the versus feed with CSN logos, isn’t it?
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by Geoff Detweiler on Mar 3, 2010 8:06 PM EST up reply actions
Does their PBP guy still say things after goals that viewers send in?
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by Geoff Detweiler on Mar 3, 2010 8:16 PM EST up reply actions
ah, ok. thanks for clearing that up
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by Geoff Detweiler on Mar 3, 2010 8:20 PM EST up reply actions
how does coburn keep getting pushed off the puck?
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watch it, punk
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by CoburnsCuddleBuddy on Mar 3, 2010 8:21 PM EST up reply actions
Chris Therien drinking game: every time he says something blatantly obvious, say “dynamite drop in donny” and then drink
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by CoburnsCuddleBuddy on Mar 3, 2010 8:10 PM EST reply actions
Leighton got way out of position there.
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As did Giroux, but yeah… stoppable puck.
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by Geoff Detweiler on Mar 3, 2010 8:17 PM EST up reply actions
Hey Rothenberg, your trivia title will cease soon…
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by CoburnsCuddleBuddy on Mar 3, 2010 8:19 PM EST reply actions
did i miss anything Coburn related?
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by CoburnsCuddleBuddy on Mar 3, 2010 8:20 PM EST up reply actions
Got away with a penalty that he should have been called for, was later called for a penalty that lead to the 2nd florida goal, and, he still sucks.
I’d disagree on the sucks part. I’d venture to say he’s having a bad year
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by CoburnsCuddleBuddy on Mar 3, 2010 8:22 PM EST up reply actions
Coburn before puck to face and goofy commercial = awesome
Coburn after puck to face and goofy commercial = not awesome
by orangeandblack20 on Mar 3, 2010 8:24 PM EST up reply actions
Oh it’s on, CCB. It’s on.
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by Ben Rothenberg on Mar 3, 2010 8:27 PM EST up reply actions
You’re dead Niedermayer, dead!
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by CoburnsCuddleBuddy on Mar 3, 2010 8:28 PM EST up reply actions
Vokoun robbing Gagne on that powerplay breakaway hurt that 1st period. Would have been great to get the lead, now it’ll be tough to come back from 2 down against Vokoun.
On a side note, I absolutely hate it when they chase a goalie one night and score at will, and then follow the next game with no offense.
At least Vokoun is no Deslauries… or Khudobin.
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by Geoff Detweiler on Mar 3, 2010 8:26 PM EST up reply actions
Everyone read the Puck Daddy Flyers Trade Deadline report?
Philadelphia Flyers: Lost out on Hamhuis because the asking price was too high, and didn’t improve their team on defense or in goal. Unlike the Chicago Blackhawks, who may be able to still win with their goaltending, the Flyers needed to add a better veteran to the Michael Leighton(notes)/Brian Boucher mix. But to the surprise of no one, the Flyers will enter the postseason with a terrific group of forwards, an impressive defense and a question mark in goal. Just. Like. Every. Other. Year. GRADE: D
Fair call in my opinion.
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haha, I was goin to put that in the Fly By
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by Geoff Detweiler on Mar 3, 2010 8:29 PM EST up reply actions
Sorry. I’ll write something equivalent so you can fill it up.
It will be really boring though, to go with the running theme the deadline seemed to have.
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haha, no worries whatsoever.
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by Geoff Detweiler on Mar 3, 2010 8:31 PM EST up reply actions
Ya’ll:
I’m co-hosting Rink Side Radio at 9 PM, trade deadline edition. Listen if ya want, but making fun of me here in the game thread is mandatory.
http://www.blogtalkradio.com/rinksideradio
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Good grief, how many PPs is Florida going to get this game?
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Stuck sitting in class (note to everyone: never go to law school) and missing the game. Can anyone tell me if it looks as bad as the score? Is Leighton falling apart, or was it his standard “I give up 2 goals a game but nothing more” performance? Should I bother racing home to watch the rest?
They have four PP’s and we only had one. One goal was bad one was good.
by orangeandblack20 on Mar 3, 2010 8:39 PM EST up reply actions
What class are you stuck in?
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by Geoff Detweiler on Mar 3, 2010 8:41 PM EST up reply actions
I heard that class is pretty bad.
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by Geoff Detweiler on Mar 3, 2010 8:45 PM EST up reply actions
Yes I am.
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by Geoff Detweiler on Mar 3, 2010 8:45 PM EST up reply actions
I bet there’s great overlap between lawyers and hockey fans, seeing as how law school is the intellectual equivalent of getting bodychecked into the boards. Repeatedly for three years. By Zdeno Chara.
haha, exactly.
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by Geoff Detweiler on Mar 3, 2010 8:50 PM EST up reply actions
That’s not really fair. We got some pretty decent talent out of Flin Flon.
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by Ben Rothenberg on Mar 3, 2010 8:42 PM EST up reply actions
Did anyone tell the Carter-Hartnell-Danny line the break was over?
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"We will steal the show, jolly Rogers go, we are wolves of the sea."
Some one told Carter right before the short hander, then they said just kidding.
by orangeandblack20 on Mar 3, 2010 8:43 PM EST up reply actions
It didn’t hook around the post, it went across instead
by DragonGirl0583 on Mar 3, 2010 8:44 PM EST up reply actions
idiot is a harsh word, he’s more of a lovable oaf.
"NO HONOR"
"We will steal the show, jolly Rogers go, we are wolves of the sea."
Lots of old South Jersey Jewish folk are cheering for that one in sunny Florida!
by orangeandblack20 on Mar 3, 2010 8:51 PM EST reply actions
Probably, just like me. Maybe some Voorhees, and some spill over to Marlton and Medford and Mt. Laurel…
by orangeandblack20 on Mar 3, 2010 8:54 PM EST up reply actions
Some of them are probably my in laws, so yeah.
by DragonGirl0583 on Mar 3, 2010 8:54 PM EST up reply actions
Yeah, I went to East, and there were a bunch of rumors about why he moved. I’ll look for the article online. Rough childhood with an alcoholic father.
by orangeandblack20 on Mar 3, 2010 8:55 PM EST up reply actions
Wake me up, before you go-go
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by CoburnsCuddleBuddy on Mar 3, 2010 8:52 PM EST reply actions
Short and uneventful, but important and awesome.
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by Ben Rothenberg on Mar 3, 2010 8:53 PM EST up reply actions
I know. That is what he said right after he made the speech. Was it over when the germans bombed pearl harbor? Germans?? Let him go he is on a roll.
by M from Pdaddy on Mar 3, 2010 9:00 PM EST up reply actions
Quick. One landed by Richie. Slip and fall Booth.
by orangeandblack20 on Mar 3, 2010 8:53 PM EST up reply actions
It is because I just got home sorry for the first period and a half
by M from Pdaddy on Mar 3, 2010 8:55 PM EST up reply actions
Hartnell is so awful
anytime we have a chance to score the guy throws some backwards blind pass or skates in front of someone…he is an idiot
Oh I forgot
he then falls on the ice like every shift
by EaglesFanatic80 on Mar 3, 2010 8:56 PM EST up reply actions
Cool, I go to take my dog out, and they decide to go all Nazi on Fla and score.
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"We will steal the show, jolly Rogers go, we are wolves of the sea."
Ugh
we can’t expect Leighton to make all these amazing saves
THE FACEPALM OF LUCK WOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!
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"We will steal the show, jolly Rogers go, we are wolves of the sea."
I feel like the Patrick Stewert facepalm is overused.
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"We will steal the show, jolly Rogers go, we are wolves of the sea."
eh… not what I had in mind, but yeah, that’s an answer.
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by Geoff Detweiler on Mar 3, 2010 9:02 PM EST up reply actions
Now that the Gagne fanboys are over last night’s game, im still roting for his departure
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by CoburnsCuddleBuddy on Mar 3, 2010 9:01 PM EST reply actions
This is just stupid.
3 shots, 3 goals.
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This is thoroughly hilarious
Leighton shits the bed after the trade deadline
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by CoburnsCuddleBuddy on Mar 3, 2010 9:03 PM EST reply actions
Not going to lie though: This is Alanis Morissette ironic. Meaning, not at all ironic.
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It’s just deva ju to Boosh as a rookie years ago…. Great while feeling he had to fight for the starting job, started to crack once it belonged to him. If Boosh can play well tonight, they might start feeling like they’re competing against each other and that might help keep us afloat for a bit.
by DragonGirl0583 on Mar 3, 2010 9:07 PM EST up reply actions
Why wasn’t boosh playing in this game anyway. Back to back after three weeks off. This team is its own worst enemy with this nonsense.
this too.
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by Geoff Detweiler on Mar 3, 2010 9:05 PM EST up reply actions
No I see the reply and you are right. Try humping that wet shit on your back all night and compare that to play maybe 15 minutes.
by M from Pdaddy on Mar 3, 2010 9:09 PM EST up reply actions
I really doubt a professional athlete that just had two weeks off is going to suffer from fatigue after one game
It isnt the fatigue it is the recovery from the stretching and the dehydration from sweating out an average of a gallon of water a period wearing the equipment.
by M from Pdaddy on Mar 3, 2010 9:10 PM EST up reply actions
Goalies don’t get to sit down and get off their feet in between 45-60 seconds shifts like skaters do, either. It’s a different kind of fatigue that sets in to the two different types of players, but that doesn’t mean that goalies never need rest.
by DragonGirl0583 on Mar 3, 2010 9:12 PM EST up reply actions
I understand that. I’ve played hockey for over 20 years. I understand during the course of a season you need rest. However, plenty of goalies play 60-70 games a year. I just don’t think he’s fatigued right now after the break and the first two games….
If you played then explaining goaltenders is not required
by M from Pdaddy on Mar 3, 2010 9:19 PM EST up reply actions
I understand what you mean. I’m just thinking it could be mental fatigue, too. Leighton and Boosh could have been the most worried about what was going to happen today, and a goalies with mental fatigue can be a lot worse than a skater with mental fatigue.
by DragonGirl0583 on Mar 3, 2010 9:20 PM EST up reply actions
Fatigue for a goal can be subtle like a for baseball batter….if a goalie has to make 30 saves that’s 30 times your getting dump of adrenaline in order fire those fast twitch muscle…. that neurochemistry has to be restocked…..those levels vary depending on where you are in your training/competition cycle. I am not sayhing your necessarilyh wrong but just generalizing too much. The physiology is more complex. You can feel rested but your perception speed and reaction speed can be affected just enough to make a difference.
I know its not exactly an even comparison but I get fatigue from playing too much in net. I have two 2 hour practices a week, plus two 60 min games on a Sunday.
I’m having a break atm over summer when usually I’d be on the rink the whole way from the end of games to the start. I just couldn’t face putting on the pads for another 3 months straight when I could be doing off ice training.
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Wow Bouch
that guy sucks…cut him and bring someone up
Phillies start spring training soon
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by CoburnsCuddleBuddy on Mar 3, 2010 9:10 PM EST reply actions
You can’t really expect them to win today after all the shakeups they went through…
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by Ben Rothenberg on Mar 3, 2010 9:13 PM EST reply actions 1 recs
Brian Boucher sucks. We really should have traded for Toskala….
Proudly supporting a Flyers team with "no honor".
I…Just…Um… No.
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by Geoff Detweiler on Mar 3, 2010 9:15 PM EST up reply actions
I hoped so.
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by Geoff Detweiler on Mar 3, 2010 9:16 PM EST up reply actions
I’m gonna leave this here
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by CoburnsCuddleBuddy on Mar 3, 2010 9:14 PM EST reply actions
This is some Latvia caliber passing going on right now.
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Eh, Latvia’s might have been a little better. The ice had already seen like 3 games that day before Latvia played on it, so they theoretically may have been playing on a worse surface, but they didn’t really look worse than this.
by DragonGirl0583 on Mar 3, 2010 9:17 PM EST up reply actions
At least Leino isn’t terrible, eh?
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OKT in disguise.
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by Geoff Detweiler on Mar 3, 2010 9:17 PM EST up reply actions
6-3..oddly enough this isn’t over yet
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by CoburnsCuddleBuddy on Mar 3, 2010 9:19 PM EST reply actions
10-8 final, guaranteed.
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by Ben Rothenberg on Mar 3, 2010 9:19 PM EST up reply actions
Magic 8-Ball didn’t specify.
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by Ben Rothenberg on Mar 3, 2010 9:21 PM EST up reply actions
Talking about the Flyers standing pat at the deadline.
Jones forced to acknowledge he went live on TV across all of North America six hours ago and preached that Michael Leighton was a serviceable goaltender.
I knew you looked that the game threads
by M from Pdaddy on Mar 3, 2010 9:26 PM EST up reply actions
I normally don’t because I watch the games late and blow through commercials/intermission. However, for the second night in a row, I didn’t realize the game was at 7:30, and thus caught up with about two minutes left in the second. So I popped in.
why do you watch the games late, Work or school or something. JW because you never comment on game threads.
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I hate commercials and I hate adds for season tickets.
When the whistle blows, I do a 10 second jump back and a 30 second jump forward and I’m right at the faceoff circle. Intermission is 3 five minute skip forwards and four 30 second jumps and right to the center ice faceoff. I watch the game in about 75 minutes.
I am still laughing about the whole Newsday chick comments from earlier.
by M from Pdaddy on Mar 3, 2010 9:30 PM EST up reply actions
At least my Terps are doing well. 19-7 early.
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At least it’s not the playoffs.
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by Ben Rothenberg on Mar 3, 2010 9:25 PM EST up reply actions
After a 3pm let down, how much of a surprise is the 7:30 let down?
by DragonGirl0583 on Mar 3, 2010 9:25 PM EST up reply actions
there’s also those who can look straight into your eyes and lying to you. Breaking down nonverbal communication Mario, really?
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by CoburnsCuddleBuddy on Mar 3, 2010 9:28 PM EST up reply actions
Tim Roth knows all the ticks.
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by Geoff Detweiler on Mar 3, 2010 9:30 PM EST up reply actions
I love those who try to break down things like lying. I purposely look people into the eyes and tell them the craziest shit to see if they think im lying or not. The flyers fucked up, but we’d all be killing them if they paid too much for a goaltender whose value is at a current high point, and we could get at the end of the year
TAKE THE FALL, ACT HURT, GET INDIGNANT
by CoburnsCuddleBuddy on Mar 3, 2010 9:32 PM EST up reply actions
How many times do people see a deadline deal and go “Awesome! Yes!”? It’s rare. Trading at the deadline is always rough.
Basically, I agree with you. I would have loved to have swung a deal for Hamhuis or Vokoun, but Parent and Coburn for Hamhuis would have been terrible, and a straight up Carter for Vokoun trade would have been bad too.
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by Geoff Detweiler on Mar 3, 2010 9:36 PM EST up reply actions
Vokoun is 33 years old and playing on a team that’s a joke. You want to trade one of our best players for a guy that no one has expected anything out of, even before his game time in Nashville?
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by CoburnsCuddleBuddy on Mar 3, 2010 9:38 PM EST up reply actions
Expectations don’t mean anything. He’s very good, and if they would have given us a 1st or 2nd round pick, while we threw in a low-level prospect, I would have pulled the trigger. If you’re in “win-now” mode, you take your assets (forwards) and acquire your weaknesses (goalie).
But the Flyers can still go after him in the off-season, when the price comes down.
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by Geoff Detweiler on Mar 3, 2010 9:42 PM EST up reply actions
I guess I don’t believe in the hype around him. He plays in the NHL’s worst division.
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by CoburnsCuddleBuddy on Mar 3, 2010 9:45 PM EST up reply actions
That’s completely fine. But the NHL’s worst division leads to poor defense as well. Just look at who he has in front of him.
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by Geoff Detweiler on Mar 3, 2010 9:46 PM EST up reply actions
Its almost the QMJHL. No defense that is why the best goalies come from that league
by M from Pdaddy on Mar 3, 2010 9:47 PM EST up reply actions
I’d rather us go after a goalie that will be with us for awhile, the Halaks, Prices. The late 20 year olds that we will pay top dollar for, but who also has top talent. Not paying top price for talent that despite being good is near their end.
I don’t believe in winning now, I believe in winning in general. Pronger will grow old, but we had a similar situation to Hatcher. Don’t go all out because you believe you will be trash in the future. Play to win, in general. That’s why the Phillies are still doing well
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by CoburnsCuddleBuddy on Mar 3, 2010 9:50 PM EST up reply actions
Should have offered Carter for Halak and Plachenek. After this year Halak will be too expensive for our cap.
by M from Pdaddy on Mar 3, 2010 9:51 PM EST up reply actions
At the time, that would have been over-paying.
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by Geoff Detweiler on Mar 3, 2010 9:53 PM EST up reply actions
If neither resigned that would have equaled cap room and rights to halak for at least picks
by M from Pdaddy on Mar 3, 2010 9:56 PM EST up reply actions
But Carter is an RFA too, and will likely command more money, thus better/more picks.
Basically, Halak was a backup goalie who hadn’t proven what he has so far this year, and Plekanec was coming off a pretty bad season himself. Coupled with Carter’s career year, most people would have hated that trade at the time, rightfully so.
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by Geoff Detweiler on Mar 3, 2010 10:01 PM EST up reply actions
That’s very true. I’m a huge fan of Halak, but now that he’s going to be more expensive than Price (assuming, of course), I’m good with Price too. Problem is, they’re RFAs. So any trade for them at the deadline will probably require draft picks going back and…well… you know.
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by Geoff Detweiler on Mar 3, 2010 9:53 PM EST up reply actions
yes, the same picks we traded to acquire that aging talent because we were in a win now mentality. Do you see what Im getting at? When you put yourself into a win now mentality, you severely handicap your team. Think Oates, Amonte
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by CoburnsCuddleBuddy on Mar 3, 2010 9:54 PM EST up reply actions
haha, I see what you’re saying and I agree. Although I do think acquiring Pronger was a good idea, three 1sts and Lupul was a tad steep. Lupul, Sbisa, and a 1st wouldn’t have been too bad.
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by Geoff Detweiler on Mar 3, 2010 9:57 PM EST up reply actions
Pronger was well worth it. There are many things wrong with this team. These things will be fixed with time, but Ray Emery and Chris Pronger will not win you a championship.
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by CoburnsCuddleBuddy on Mar 3, 2010 9:59 PM EST up reply actions
does Parent have talent or has he been too much of a MASH unit until now to know…..How do scouts regard him?
I really believed he was something special but some guys are just not going to get out of there own way.
by M from Pdaddy on Mar 3, 2010 9:41 PM EST up reply actions
He definitely has talent. I’m not sure how scouts regard him, but he could be a good #4 if he could stay healthy and get stronger on his skates.
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by Geoff Detweiler on Mar 3, 2010 9:43 PM EST up reply actions
Not many have done more with less than Jonesy. Maybe Madonna but not many
by M from Pdaddy on Mar 3, 2010 9:28 PM EST up reply actions
Very true. That’s literally the first line of the description on the back of his book, haha
by DragonGirl0583 on Mar 3, 2010 9:29 PM EST up reply actions
By the way you didn’t miss much today after you left
by M from Pdaddy on Mar 3, 2010 9:31 PM EST up reply actions
Yeah, I read the whole thread during the commercials of this game. Nice try attempting to get my number, but my cell phone has to stay in the car while I’m at work, so even if your intentions actually were noble it wouldn’t have helped.
by DragonGirl0583 on Mar 3, 2010 9:36 PM EST up reply actions
It was really an ill fated attempt at humor.
by M from Pdaddy on Mar 3, 2010 9:37 PM EST up reply actions
I did get a laugh out of it when I got home, so your attempt wasn’t completely ill fated.
by DragonGirl0583 on Mar 3, 2010 9:40 PM EST up reply actions
This is the stuff you miss on the game threads.
by M from Pdaddy on Mar 3, 2010 9:48 PM EST up reply actions
Usually I reserve the Dammit for Carter but that was needed.
by M from Pdaddy on Mar 3, 2010 9:43 PM EST up reply actions
I think if anything makes it to the dictionary it will be “Dammit Pronger!” thanks to the Down Goes Brown flowchart.
by DragonGirl0583 on Mar 3, 2010 9:45 PM EST up reply actions
I would have laughed so hard if Leino scored another one.
Proudly supporting a Flyers team with "no honor".
That would be funny in an almost tragic way….
by DragonGirl0583 on Mar 3, 2010 9:42 PM EST up reply actions
Right, he hasn’t been around long enough to know we don’t come back like that around here. Accept it is over kid.
by M from Pdaddy on Mar 3, 2010 9:42 PM EST up reply actions
Wouldn’t worry about Leighton too much. Could just be having a bad night on a bad night to have one.
Panotch and Seravalli are doing their best to jinx us by speculating on Twitter about us catching Buffalo….
Oh I know, but I meant them sitting there now when we’re already down twittering about us coming back to do it
by DragonGirl0583 on Mar 3, 2010 9:50 PM EST up reply actions
Florida announcers actually said they were surprised and thankful the Flyers turned down the Vokoun deal, and also happy that they did. They don’t particularly like Carter… Lindsay (Bill) went as far as saying, Carter has a great “shot” but Vokoun is something you build a team around.
If Vokoun weren’t 33, I’d agree. Plus, Florida can’t build a team, let alone around a 33 year old goalie with 100 games left under his contract.
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by Geoff Detweiler on Mar 3, 2010 9:50 PM EST up reply actions
A “St. Patty day” package that includes tickets for games in april should be more accurately marketed as an “April Fools Flyers Deal”
+1, I’m with you there. The Santa Sacks still being sold after New Year’s this year were about all the weird holiday promotion I could handle the for the season
by DragonGirl0583 on Mar 3, 2010 9:54 PM EST up reply actions
!!!!!
I just found the silver lining in today’s inaction! The Flyers saved $800k in cap room next season.
at what point can they clean house. There’s some decent pieces but alot of incosistency around them….or are they dead in the water for the new few years?
After next year. Check out CapGeek.
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by Geoff Detweiler on Mar 3, 2010 9:58 PM EST up reply actions
Aww man…I’mI still working on learning the “no vowels for 6 letters” names of non-flyers….Then I’ll tackle the rules for penalities. It’s weird becuse I like advance baseball metrics but I hate the contract thing other than how a win equates to dollars. the contract thing its certainly much easier in baseball that hockey…. but man if see another piece of rosterbation inspired by Jayson Werth future status as a Phillie I’ll barf. I the one thing I can say is watching these young hockey players performing so well is a testament to hockey evolving in the trainging department . They are getting the most out of these guys when the are physiologically the most viable. and for less money. That’s Holy fucking Grail. They aren’t wasting those years in the minor leagues like baseball players do….they could have Navy Seals in the time it takes these guys to get ready. Since when is basebal the fucking decatholon.
haha, I was talking mostly so you can see what the contract situation looks likes in futures years. That link goes straight to the page that shows about 10 years worth of “rosterbation”. It’s a very useful tool, but I understand how it can be overwhelming.
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by Geoff Detweiler on Mar 3, 2010 10:27 PM EST up reply actions
At least it’s gone after this season.
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by Geoff Detweiler on Mar 4, 2010 10:19 AM EST up reply actions
YESSSSSSSSSSS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
"NO HONOR"
"We will steal the show, jolly Rogers go, we are wolves of the sea."
Holy hell! First Leino scores, and now Ryan Parent.
’Tis a strange night indeed.
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I see it as more we’ve been winning more often than not lately against above-average opponents and losing terribly to the below-average ones
by DragonGirl0583 on Mar 3, 2010 9:55 PM EST up reply actions
come on. everyone saw leino-to-parent for the fourth goal of the night on vokoun, right?
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Hartnell, you are now being out produced by Leino and Parent. How does that make you feel?
"NO HONOR"
"We will steal the show, jolly Rogers go, we are wolves of the sea."
HARTNELL-could he have telegraphed that any more?
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Hartnell WTF!!! when will you learn not to pass cross ice
"NO HONOR"
"We will steal the show, jolly Rogers go, we are wolves of the sea."
vokoun isn’t giving up anything right now
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Its a shame, this is the first lose I can blame Leighton.
"NO HONOR"
"We will steal the show, jolly Rogers go, we are wolves of the sea."
I’m trying to take a little solace in that fact that he has actually been generating good shots and chances tonight, not just crappy weak scoring attempts. Obviously it would be much better for some to go in, but if the shots continue to be of better quality we’re all better off
by DragonGirl0583 on Mar 3, 2010 10:12 PM EST up reply actions
well, all three goalie options failed us.
"NO HONOR"
"We will steal the show, jolly Rogers go, we are wolves of the sea."
One game guys, one game. They just won five straight and it’s Leighton’s fourth loss as a Flyer.
Seriously, don’t freak out.
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Welcome back. You didn’t miss much, oh, except Ryan Parent potting his first ever goal.
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by Geoff Detweiler on Mar 3, 2010 10:10 PM EST up reply actions
I saw it all, just couldn’t chat here.
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by Travis Hughes on Mar 3, 2010 10:13 PM EST up reply actions
Yup. Just the first game after the trading deadline.
Against a team who traded away arguably it’s best defenseman, who hasn’t garnered a point in 7 games, or scored more than 2 goals in 14 games.
Who’ve only had 4 games where they had more than 40 shots on goal all season…
And who just took the season series 3-1.
Don’t panic.
It’s one game.
If the game last night doesn’t skew you in the other direction, why should this one put you down?
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by Travis Hughes on Mar 3, 2010 10:14 PM EST up reply actions
Pull me down…..no.
But when a team as inept as the Panthers shoves it hard without KY and exposes every bad aspect of this team….
when we’re just barely in Playoff contention…..(2 wins outta 9TH place) when the players on champion teams can’t take days off and don’t let easy points go..
Is it safe to assume that KY referencing will never leave this site?
"NO HONOR"
"We will steal the show, jolly Rogers go, we are wolves of the sea."
Pretty sure it won’t. Didn’t Travis say he took a couple of screen shots that day just in case we had to refer back to how it started?
by DragonGirl0583 on Mar 3, 2010 10:24 PM EST up reply actions
Yep.
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by Travis Hughes on Mar 3, 2010 10:27 PM EST up reply actions
haha, you watch that show? The gf does and I don’t get it.
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by Geoff Detweiler on Mar 3, 2010 10:11 PM EST up reply actions
You may have won this regular season game, McCabe, but remember the 2004 playoffs? When you were with the Leafs? And played the Flyers? Yeah, I thought so.
If it’s all about 2004, then at least we beat up the Bolts last night.
by DragonGirl0583 on Mar 3, 2010 10:14 PM EST up reply actions
Well there is a positive in all of this…at least Emery went down for the year before he signed an extension.
I have restrained from this statement because Holmgren officially reversed course yet. He said he would talk to Emery about an extension in March. Maybe he still will.
Look I don’t particularly think Homer is that great of a GM but if he signed a guy to an extension while he is on LITR for the rest of the year then he would officially be the dumbest human being alive and would be run out of town so fast it still wouldn’t be fast enough.
Leighton has kept us in most of the game he has played. Tonight, he mailed in his performance and lost the game.
it happens
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by CoburnsCuddleBuddy on Mar 3, 2010 10:11 PM EST reply actions
I wouldn’t say he “mailed it in” because that would imply “half-assing.” He did not have a good game, though.
Keeo in mind they’re still scraping off the rust from the break. I noticed a difference between Richards/Pronger/Timonen and everyone else.
Look for a better, more cohesive effort on Friday.
Do you see what happens when you find a stranger in the Alps?
Well, that was fun. I guess they were due for a stinker.
Boosh had a slow start but then was fine. Give him the nod on Friday.
More Leino, too. I liked what I saw from him.
Why did they put JVR on Carter’s line?
Do you see what happens when you find a stranger in the Alps?
I missed a couple of the goals in the game by being out of the room…. Did any of the announcers make a big deal out of the Pronger assists tonight?
I expected them to make a bigger deal out of it, so I was trying to figure out if they missed it entirely. Thanks
by DragonGirl0583 on Mar 3, 2010 10:36 PM EST up reply actions
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