Game 65, Preview and Game Thread: New York Islanders at Philadelphia Flyers
by Travis Hughes on Mar 9, 2010 6:06 PM EST
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PrintNew York Islanders at Philadelphia Flyers, Mar 9, 2010 7:30 PM EST
#14 New York Islanders (26-31-8, 60 pts) at #6 Philadelphia Flyers (34-26-4, 72 pts)
Wachovia Center - 7:30 PM ET - Philadelphia, PA
TV: Versus HD, TSN 2 HD
Radio: 610 WIP, XM 205
This is the open game thread.
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Who own dee Isles? We own dee Isles. 14 straight games, 14 straight wins. It's the most dominant current stretch of wins that one team holds over another, and we'd like to see it continue once more. Not so fast, though. The Isles have called in their secret weapon.
When the Islanders last played in Philadelphia, they called up Trevor Gillies for his second-ever NHL game on his 31st birthday, and Scott Gordon used the enforcer for an entirely predictable six shifts and 3:16 of ice time, none of it coming after the mid-way point of the second period.
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I'm not going to rehash my rant about the pointlessness of employing players whose sole purpose is to fight (er, sorry, "protect"), but I just don't see how calling Gillies up for tonight's game helps much. Gordon doesn't skate his enforcers much (and I don't think he should), and though their implied "puttin' on the foil" presence on the bench may provide the confidence of security for the other Islanders, I've yet to see evidence of that helping gain wins. Improved special teams -- now that would help garner wins.
Yeah, one of these days we'll be able to write a preview without mentioning the goon the other team has called up for the game. Hopefully. Sigh.
Anyway, hockey: the Islanders have fallen off in the last few months, basically playing themselves out of contention for a playoff spot. One reason why? Rookie phenom John Tavares has completely fallen off the map. He's without a goal in his last 17 games and he has just one goal in his last 27 games.
I bet Chris Pronger got in his head.
After the jump, line combinations, starting goaltenders, and questions to answer this evening.
Flyers Line Combinations
Gagne - Richards - Carcillo
Briere- Carter - Hartnell
van Riemsdyk - Giroux - Asham
Powe - Betts - Laperriere
Pronger - Carle
Timonen - Krajicek
Parent - Coburn
New York Line Combinations
Moulson - Tavares - Park
Bailey - Nielsen - Okposo
Comeau - Schremp - Jackman
Tambellini - Weight - Sim
Streit - Gervais
Kohn - Hillen
Meyer - Reese
Starting Goaltenders
Questions To Answer
- Does Michael Leighton put in another solid outing?
- Can Dwayne Roloson prove to the Flyers that they should've gone out and picked up another goalie at the deadline... like, I don't know... him?
- Tavares has two goals in four games against the Flyers. Does he break his loooooong funk tonight?
- What's the point cushion in 6th place for the Flyers at the end of the night, and are they any closer to Ottawa when it's all said and done this evening?
Note the 7:30 start time tonight. The game is on Versus and 610 WIP. Join us here for the in-game discussion and LET'S GO FLYERS!
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How many goons can an opposing team chuck if an opposing team could chuck goons?
……..Seriously, what is this, the 20th time this season.
"NO HONOR"
"We will steal the show, jolly Rogers go, we are wolves of the sea."
side note-mlb has phills braves on right now
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Wait…why does Cox deserve another shot at the playoffs? He went 14 years in a row, not our fault he only won one title.
WERTH! Homer, baby. It’s the beard.
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I wonder if Werth grew the beard just so he could show us that you can have a beard and be good at baseball at the same time?
Any indication that he would’ve wanted a starting gig, though?
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by Travis Hughes on Mar 9, 2010 7:35 PM EST up reply actions
that’s a good question…but he has been a back up for his career but your right he might want more to do and that ‘s not something charley doesn’t do to well…use the bench esp when Jimmy Willians left
cue jay werth’s thoughts:
“….we are the three best friends that anyone can ever have…”
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HAHA, I laughed out loud. Thanks.
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by Travis Hughes on Mar 9, 2010 7:32 PM EST up reply actions
From what I gather, it’s mostly DTV’s fault. They’re the ones that dropped Versus.
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by Travis Hughes on Mar 9, 2010 7:38 PM EST up reply actions
Versus was totally showing clips of the concourse from Sunday night’s game instead of tonight. The guy with the Kessel jersey walking by was such a dead giveaway.
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Seems that way. We’ve discussed this before, no?
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by Travis Hughes on Mar 9, 2010 7:42 PM EST up reply actions
I do feel like we won one at some point, but I can’t remember specifics
by DragonGirl0583 on Mar 9, 2010 7:43 PM EST up reply actions
Ooh, caught Krajicek in the eyebrow.
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He won’t miss a shift.
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c’mon kid, get stitched up, ice it down, send lappy in for a pep talk
Eat what the monkey eats, then eat the monkey. -U.S. Navy survival guidance
Not necessary. He’ll be stitched up and back in five minutes. Guaranteed.
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by Travis Hughes on Mar 9, 2010 7:47 PM EST up reply actions
Did Billy Jaffe just try and say that Michael Leighton could be like Dominik Hasek?
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Okay, as long as I wasn’t the only one who heard that…
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by Travis Hughes on Mar 9, 2010 7:47 PM EST up reply actions
He tapes the game and fast-forwards past the downtime, so I am hopeful he did not hear that, otherwise, I think we’ll be getting a bunch of stats broken out at us.
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He will point out that Hasek knows how to skate nearly to center ice to play a puck for his old lazy defenseman.
Something that wasn’t brought up in that whole discussion, which I just now realized, is that Leighton probably thought it would be an icing call.
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by Geoff Detweiler on Mar 9, 2010 11:12 PM EST up reply actions
That might’ve been me going into shock…. Not really interesting in any more pressure being piled up on Leighton since I’m already worried about him holding up for the rest of the year
by DragonGirl0583 on Mar 9, 2010 7:52 PM EST up reply actions
coburn joins the rush again.
Eat what the monkey eats, then eat the monkey. -U.S. Navy survival guidance
Heh, there’s the token weak Leighton goal of the game…
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Could you imagine what he’d do to a guy like Jon Sim?
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by Travis Hughes on Mar 9, 2010 7:56 PM EST up reply actions
#14 Toronto Maple Leafs (26-31-8, 60 pts) at #6 Philadelphia Flyers (34-26-4, 72 pts)
Just noticed this. Not trying to be picky but thought you might like to know.
"NZFlyerfan"
Heh, thanks. Copy and paste from the last game, I’m surprised I don’t do this more often.
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by Travis Hughes on Mar 9, 2010 7:58 PM EST up reply actions
Maybe Hartnell will score tonight since apparently tonight is ripe for breaking goalless streaks. Or he can continue to be useless, whichever.
Is that 20 USD or 20 in your currency? Because we all know which one is likely more valuable…
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by Travis Hughes on Mar 9, 2010 8:01 PM EST up reply actions
Somebody needs about 14 USD to match his bet….
by DragonGirl0583 on Mar 9, 2010 8:02 PM EST up reply actions
Anyone else notice they had Doug Weight at 1024 points in 276 games? That’s one hell of a pace there…
Oh no…. is this karmic retribution for mistreating Boosh?
by DragonGirl0583 on Mar 9, 2010 8:04 PM EST up reply actions
Yeah, that’s wonderful.
What a nightmare.
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by Travis Hughes on Mar 9, 2010 8:04 PM EST up reply actions
Judging by Twitter Krajicek sounds like the only one with any chance of coming back
by DragonGirl0583 on Mar 9, 2010 8:08 PM EST up reply actions
Seravalli’s:
Flyers locker room is a MASH unit… in the middle of the 1st period! Krajicek = shot to face. JVR = shot to face. Carcillo can’t even walk
by DragonGirl0583 on Mar 9, 2010 8:10 PM EST up reply actions
Followed by John Boruk insinuating that JVR is done for the game
by DragonGirl0583 on Mar 9, 2010 8:10 PM EST up reply actions
I hear you, I’m just passing it along…
by DragonGirl0583 on Mar 9, 2010 8:12 PM EST up reply actions
Me either.
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by Travis Hughes on Mar 9, 2010 8:12 PM EST up reply actions
Carcillo’s in the tunnel and he can’t walk
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Well, with all due respect to him, there’s no chance he can have any idea of that from the press box.
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by Travis Hughes on Mar 9, 2010 8:07 PM EST up reply actions
I would assume he has a cell phone and maybe someone who knows told him?
We can only hope he is wrong.
I doubt that. If he’s in the tunnel, the PR people aren’t there. They’re in the press box too.
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by Travis Hughes on Mar 9, 2010 8:08 PM EST up reply actions
he tweeted that he was laying on the ground in the tunnel. I assume he had binoculars.
-KreiderDesigns
"Good night. Good hockey."
by KreiderDesigns on Mar 9, 2010 8:18 PM EST up reply actions
For the rest of the night…
Gags-Richie-Briere
Carter-Giroux-Asham/Hartnell (Hope Asham)
Powe-Betts-Lappy
by orangeandblack20 on Mar 9, 2010 8:11 PM EST reply actions
Weird, power play with exactly 2:00 left.
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So much negativity, can we think positively for a change? Maybe?
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Muting Versus is a good first step.
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by Travis Hughes on Mar 9, 2010 8:19 PM EST up reply actions
Well, see, I turned on MLB Network immediately instead of having to watch Versus. Ryan Madson proceeded to then give up a two-run double to Eric Hinske and then a sacrifice fly to give the Braves a 4-2 lead. That didn’t help.
Not really… the most recent things I see were like 12 minutes ago. And even those didn’t say much
by DragonGirl0583 on Mar 9, 2010 8:24 PM EST up reply actions
I’m trying… but watching Twitter update is making it harder
by DragonGirl0583 on Mar 9, 2010 8:19 PM EST up reply actions
Yeah, but it’s preseason…. Weren’t the Phillies dead last in the Grapefruit league the same year we won the World Series?
by DragonGirl0583 on Mar 9, 2010 8:22 PM EST up reply actions
Wasn’t that also the same year they were a pathetic 1-7 or 1-8 to start the season? Or am I thinking of 2007.
Regardless, my overall point is I never take stock in anything that happens in March or even April.
Proudly supporting a Flyers team with "no honor".
we’re we? actually i’d prefer them to take the last few weeks up here in Philly to get used to playing inclimate conditions like most teams do inevitabilty in april
Sorry, we weren’t dead last in 2008, but still 3rd from the bottom and 8 games behind first place. 2009 was 5th from the bottom but 10 games behind.
http://espn.go.com/mlb/standings/_/year/2008
by DragonGirl0583 on Mar 9, 2010 8:31 PM EST up reply actions
Judging by the way they played in the first period I just might have to break out “The Lucky Puck”.
Which is a Puck handed to me by Mike Richards during warm-ups.
In off-topic news
(And please don’t yell too loudly at me if this is old news) Tosh.0 is going to have the little girl from the Phillies game as the “web redemption” for tomorrow’s episode. I’m curious to see what they do with her.
I now return you to your regularly scheduled lives.
"I did my walk of shame this morning and everyone was so much nicer," she said. "People were inviting me to parties at 9 a.m."
Hi Icers.
"Want a donut go to dunkin donuts, want a linebacker go to Penn State."
- Cris Carter, NFL Draft, 4/25/09
twitter: @princessblueezy
Panaccio…
We’re told Carcillo may have suffered a bad skate cut at the left knee. There was blood and towel wrapped around it from our reports below
I am not a medical expert, but surely a cut, even if it is deep, is better in the long-run than a blown out knee, right?
Proudly supporting a Flyers team with "no honor".
I think the concern with a deep cut to the knee is that he may have cut a muscle or tendon or something similar to what Cam Ward did.
Either way, Ward is back already. A blown out knee could screw up your whole career, depending.
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by Travis Hughes on Mar 9, 2010 8:46 PM EST up reply actions
Depends on what gets cut…. if it’s just a flesh wound, you’re correct. But there are some things you don’t want getting severed by a skate….
by DragonGirl0583 on Mar 9, 2010 8:37 PM EST up reply actions
Well, Ben and j already said what I was trying to avoid saying out loud
by DragonGirl0583 on Mar 9, 2010 8:38 PM EST up reply actions
Unless it gets infected and then you have to amputate. Or if the cut actually turned out to be a zombie bite, which might be harder to see at regular speed on the replays.
"I did my walk of shame this morning and everyone was so much nicer," she said. "People were inviting me to parties at 9 a.m."
Geoff is at the game…
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by Travis Hughes on Mar 9, 2010 8:46 PM EST up reply actions
what’s with the offspeed stuff we are throwing on net
Eat what the monkey eats, then eat the monkey. -U.S. Navy survival guidance
Haha, no I meant he also said JVR was back. But every laugh I can get helps today, I’m really trying to be optimistic, I know we can win this somehow
by DragonGirl0583 on Mar 9, 2010 8:46 PM EST up reply actions
‘The NHL on Versus: Make It Happen’
Is that really the slogan they’re going with?
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Goodbye streak of 14 wins versus the Isles. It was nice knowing you.
Proudly supporting a Flyers team with "no honor".
The game’s half over… come on
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by Travis Hughes on Mar 9, 2010 8:52 PM EST up reply actions
or somebody to apologize to Boosh and get rid of the bad karma…
by DragonGirl0583 on Mar 9, 2010 8:51 PM EST up reply actions
Brian Schneider hit?
I am not sure Mets fans know what that is.
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Mets fans don’t know much of anything.
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by Travis Hughes on Mar 9, 2010 8:53 PM EST up reply actions
Here’s a funny statement: the Braves announcers are explaining how the NL East is wide open. Even the Nationals might not be too far back, they’re insinuating.
Are these the same announcers that earlier in the game said there are ‘no holes’ on the Phillies roster?
Me thinks the Nats have some holes.
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by Travis Hughes on Mar 9, 2010 8:54 PM EST up reply actions
I would consider the Phils pen to be a hole until they prove otherwise, but this division is not that great.
The Phillies don’t have to prove anything to me until further notice.
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by Travis Hughes on Mar 9, 2010 8:56 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
1) news that Krajicek is back
2) news that JVR is back
3) news that Carcillo is back.
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by Travis Hughes on Mar 9, 2010 8:53 PM EST up reply actions
Lots of people have it and never post, I’m one of those. I don’t use it all the time, usually just during trade deadline days and situations like tonight
by DragonGirl0583 on Mar 9, 2010 8:55 PM EST up reply actions
Thats about the only reason I would do it. But I don’t need to as long as you do it haha
"NZFlyerfan"
Seriously, just follow our Twitter page. It’s linked on the sidebar on the homepage. All the good Flyers related people are on there.
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by Travis Hughes on Mar 9, 2010 8:57 PM EST up reply actions
CARTER!!!!!!!!
THE RETURN OF CARBOMB HAS INSPIRED THE TEAM!!!!!!!!
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1 in a row for the Flyers
"NO HONOR"
"We will steal the show, jolly Rogers go, we are wolves of the sea."
Haha, I had to put this up because I thought it was funny….
The Flyers official PR feed twitter:
Dan Carcillo is back. All of the doomsday scenarios put forth by everyone can now be put to rest.
haha, no doubt that was directed at Panotch.
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by Travis Hughes on Mar 9, 2010 9:01 PM EST up reply actions
We better win, I’m missing LOST for this crap.
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=P
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by Travis Hughes on Mar 9, 2010 9:05 PM EST up reply actions
No spoilers, please.
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by Travis Hughes on Mar 9, 2010 9:08 PM EST up reply actions
I’ve never understood the aura surrounding LOST. I’ve also never watched so much as 15 seconds of it, but…
Yeah, you just wouldn’t understand then.
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by Travis Hughes on Mar 9, 2010 9:05 PM EST up reply actions
He was with a friend who was wearing a pre-lockout white Fleury too. Just embarrassing.
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by Geoff Detweiler on Mar 9, 2010 11:19 PM EST up reply actions
Stock footage. I saw that guy at Sunday’s game.
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by Travis Hughes on Mar 9, 2010 9:09 PM EST up reply actions
spielberg will take care of WW1 when he finishes with WW2
Eat what the monkey eats, then eat the monkey. -U.S. Navy survival guidance
I think the War of 1812 gets more neglect than WW1, but I hear you. Most of the people I know have no idea what the war of 1812 was even about
by DragonGirl0583 on Mar 9, 2010 9:21 PM EST up reply actions
usa vs. england round 2
not to be confused with napoleon vs. russia
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Yeah, but Napoleon vs. Russia has a kick-ass theme overture.
"Tortorella’s got it all wrong ... Gaborik shouldn’t be messing with our skilled player." -Peter Luuko
My fiance wrote his thesis on 1812, so I’m knowledgeable now. But when I was in high school, we basically skipped over it in US history. Like 1 passing mention.
by DragonGirl0583 on Mar 9, 2010 9:26 PM EST up reply actions
the brits. took washington and before storming the white house a hurricane landed and wiped most of them away
Well we shouldn’t forget things like us fighting with Canada (since it was still British territory at the time)
by DragonGirl0583 on Mar 9, 2010 9:28 PM EST up reply actions
No love for French-Indian war? LOL.
"Tortorella’s got it all wrong ... Gaborik shouldn’t be messing with our skilled player." -Peter Luuko
Oh we could take it further, how about the Barbary War? The reason the US built a navy at all, but no one knows anything about it…
by DragonGirl0583 on Mar 9, 2010 9:27 PM EST up reply actions
Pronger...what was that ??
he almost gave up a 2 on 1
Hmm. I’ve never done the atdhe.net thing before. This is way better than following you guys and an on-line shot tracker and trying to figure out what’s happening.
Carcillo
he is the best player on the ice right now
Dear lord, the Flyers are making some truly amateur mistakes. These guys don’t need a “system”, they just need basic fundamentals.
We’re completely controlling the play. I’m not nervous for some reason.
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WHAT A GOAL!
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Hahah, and another power play!
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1st a PP started with exactly 2:00 left, now this one started with 12:00 left.
Bizarre.
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Hartnell drew a penalty! And he was on the ice for the first goal! This has got to be a 2010-best two and 1/2 periods.
He just ruined it
by not controlling the puck in the zone
by EaglesFanatic80 on Mar 9, 2010 9:47 PM EST up reply actions
Haha, that Gillies call up worked out pretty well.
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Isn’t it funny when these teams try to out goon the Flyers it always backfires? Brings a smile to my face.
Oh, This is bound to be good
You can't, but you thought that You could
Lot of pressure on the late-third-period power play — dreading the make-up call, gotta take advantage of this one.
SCORE!
Incredible, incredible power play.
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Possibly more important, 3 of them were Game winning goals…
by DragonGirl0583 on Mar 9, 2010 10:01 PM EST up reply actions
Hartnell Sucks
god I hate him…another turnover
I do like this new Versus scoreboard. Well designed to accomodate all kinds of different notices, etc.
Without a doubt.
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by Travis Hughes on Mar 9, 2010 10:00 PM EST up reply actions
toyota turning point: carcillo returns
Eat what the monkey eats, then eat the monkey. -U.S. Navy survival guidance
We win. I’m happy.
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Do you realize how crazy 15 in a row is?
Fifteen games is so many! To put it in perspective:
If you played a game every day, it would take more than two weeks to play fifteen games!
If you played non-stop, it would take more than 15 hours!
If you order pizza for every game, you would have 15 empty pizza boxes!
It’s insane! I hope that helps you appreciate how crazy it is.
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