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Today's open discussion thread, complete with your daily dose of Philadelphia Flyers news and notes...

  • Around the NHL:  Senators 5 - Penguins 4 (OTT leads series 1-0); Coyotes 3 - Red Wings 2 (PHX leads series 1-0); Avalanche 2 - Sharks 1 (COL leads series 1-0)
  • Recaps of last night's game: [BSH] [In Lou We Trust] [CSNPhilly] [DelcoTimes] [Daily News] [the700level] [Inquirer]
  • Photos from last night: [BSH]
  • Locker room rift? Pft: "You look up to your captain," Laperriere said. "And there's no better captain than Mike Richards." [Daily News]
  • "Call it a fireside chat if you will. All that was missing was the rocking chair, because Laviolette brought the flames and all the burning embers." [DelcoTimes]
  • A Brian Boucher puff piece! Yes! [CSNPhilly]
  • And one talking about how tough it has been for him. [DelcoTimes]
  • And one saying Brian Boucher will have the exact same playoff save percentage as Ryan Miller.  Yes, really. [Puck Prospectus]
  • Could John Stevens be going to Atlanta?  It's entirely rumor at this point. [CSNPhilly]
  • Anthony SanFilippo says what everyone is thinking: "In short, Pronger was a beast. He was the star of the game." [In the Room]
  • From his GM's mouth, Joacim Eriksson will not return next year. [euroflyers]
  • Sadly, Dmitri Yushkevich retired. [euroflyers]
  • Lastly, this quote by Patrick Maroon is really troubling: "We didn't buy into the systems. That's why we were losing games. No one was listening. That's what it seemed like to me in the locker room." [PostStar]

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Oh, phila.bright tweeted this last night. He doesn’t know where to credit it, so yell at him if it’s yours:

Man-crushin' on Boucher since 1999
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by Geoff Detweiler on Apr 15, 2010 10:48 AM EDT reply actions  

Not mine. But awesome.

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I'll be right there
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Believe"

by The Dark on Apr 15, 2010 11:35 AM EDT up reply actions  

so good…santacillo is the best part

by lerris on Apr 15, 2010 11:45 AM EDT up reply actions  

This picture just made my day.

I love the Lightning AND the Flyers... go ahead, preach me!

by Katchis on Apr 15, 2010 1:51 PM EDT up reply actions  

special teams

in the second period, the flyers were on the PP, and the devils just…sat back and let the flyers set up. i don’t know why they did this, but it happenned. this is opposed to the first period, when our puckhandlers couldn’t move, let alone make a good pass.

why did the devils switch up? it’s not like the flyers were any better on the faceoffs.

well, im going to enjoy this all day. then promptly forget about it tomorrow morning. hope the flyers do the same.

Eat what the monkey eats, then eat the monkey. -U.S. Navy survival guidance

by psudrozz on Apr 15, 2010 11:00 AM EDT reply actions  

Marcus Hayes was a little caustic in the his piece on Mike Richards.

“the cardboard captain”, “a vanilla non-star”, and “an afterthought addition to Team Canada”.
Richards has won at every level a hockey player can, Memorial Cup, World Junior Championship, Calder Cup, Olympic Gold Medal. He is also a 30 goal scorer I know that might not sound like a big deal but in this era his 31 goals was good for top 20 in the league. In the last all those years in the early 2000’s pre-lockout only Primeau and Gagne broke 30 goals for this team and they did it only once each. That includes Recchi, Roenick and that whole bunch.

Ok so Richards is not Crosby but I wouldn’t go as far as saying he is a none star. 30 goal scorers are few and far between these days to put it in perspective there were 3 – 50 goal scorers, 4 – 40 goal scorers, and only 15 – 30 goal scorers. Richards 31 goals is more than Malkin either of the Sedin Twins, Patrick Kane, Martin St. Louis and Vinny LaCavailer. Give the guy some credit.

One another Note.

After reading that Maroon quote any thoughts on Rick Tocchet taking over the head coach of the Phantoms. No more soft coaches lets get these rear these kids in while they are young.

by chrislanci on Apr 15, 2010 11:17 AM EDT reply actions  

The Marcus Hayes article… was written by Marcus Hayes.

As far as Tocchet coaching the Phantoms, I don’t think that will solve it. I think a lot of the problems down there were the players. All of this comes out, and no one is questioning Jared Ross’ captaincy. At least the Assistant GM called out the “veteran” signings, but it’s easy to call out the 30+ year olds you signed to a one-year deal who won’t be returning. It’s a lot harder to call out your prospects and team core.

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by Geoff Detweiler on Apr 15, 2010 11:32 AM EDT up reply actions  

Marcus Hayes shouldn’t write about things about which he knows nothing. This is a guy who got into a hissy fit with a blogger, remember? I hate his smug attitude on DNL and am so happy he’s no longer on the Phillies’ beat.

"Tortorella’s got it all wrong ... Gaborik shouldn’t be messing with our skilled player." -Peter Luuko

by doubleh on Apr 15, 2010 5:35 PM EDT up reply actions  

It was definitely a nice win, but as everyone is saying, it’s a long series and even if the Flyers play like they did last night, it still could go either way.

I’m wondering if Bartulis gets benched. He was not that good last night and everytime he was on the ice, i was holding my breath.

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by HockeyOutsiders on Apr 15, 2010 11:25 AM EDT reply actions  

Does anyone think that Leino is going to get a chance to jump in during the series?

Also, just as an afterthought, wouldn’t it be great if Carcillo gets a cup with us? What a turnaround for a guy that came in on the 4th line as a goon and ends up getting promoted to the 1st line and becomes one of the “heart and soul” guys on the team.

by thwalls on Apr 15, 2010 11:41 AM EDT reply actions  

Powe played pretty well last night. Barring injury or suspension, I think we’ll being playing out the series with this lineup.

by Snevik on Apr 15, 2010 11:47 AM EDT up reply actions  

Powe was on the ice at the end of the game, so it seems that Laviolette would keep him around for defensive reasons if nothing else. I think Asham may be replaced if the Flyers have trouble scoring.

by thasmin on Apr 15, 2010 11:48 AM EDT up reply actions  

I, and along with I’m sure pretty much everyone else, would be more than happy to see Hartnell get the bench for a game or two and get Leino in. I’m not sure if I missed anything, but Hartnell was just aweful last night.

I know they won’t do it, but I just wish they would. Maybe wake him up a little bit.

"Chris Pronger sneaked in the back door...banged it home."

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by Psy09 on Apr 15, 2010 11:57 AM EDT up reply actions  

Nitpick from last night

Who coaches our power play again? After three consecutive dumps led to loss of possession, how does no one adjust? They hung their forwards at the blue line and let Marty and the two defensemen chill at the goal line, collect, and fire out of the zone. Carry the puck in.

Especially frustrating after watching the Western Conference games, where the PPs skated the puck in with ease.

by Snevik on Apr 15, 2010 11:50 AM EDT reply actions  

I want to say Craig Berube does special teams, but I could be wrong on that. He might just do the PK.

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by Travis Hughes on Apr 15, 2010 11:52 AM EDT up reply actions  

Berube does indeed do special teams, but I believe he focuses mainly on the PK and late-game situations (i.e., net empty, down a man, offensive zone draw). Joe Mullen is the power play coach.

Do you see what happens when you find a stranger in the Alps?

by mikefive on Apr 15, 2010 11:59 AM EDT up reply actions  

Craig Berube does special teams

Is that anything like “Debbie Does Dallas,” perchance?
I hope not. And if it is I don’t want to see.

Do you see what happens when you find a stranger in the Alps?

by mikefive on Apr 15, 2010 4:15 PM EDT up reply actions  

I noticed that too and started to get pissed. I just screamed at the TV “Carry the f’ing puck into the zone you idiots!”

"Chris Pronger sneaked in the back door...banged it home."

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by Psy09 on Apr 15, 2010 11:59 AM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah, that was seriously frustrating. Hopefully that’s one of the things they’re working on today.

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by Travis Hughes on Apr 15, 2010 12:13 PM EDT up reply actions  

The reason Miller and Boucher are projected to have the same SV% in that article is because Miller did a ton more regular season work in the regular season. Boucher would probably be higher if it took the Olympics into account. His limited regular season work is what puts him in the middle of the pack. By every other metric, Boucher is the worst goalie in the list by far.

by thasmin on Apr 15, 2010 11:51 AM EDT reply actions  

I’m actually glad you read it. And while you’re entirely correct, they also looked at career playoff save percentage. Whether that makes it more or less accurate, we’ll see. But it wasn’t just his “limited regular season work”.

Either way, I expect Boucher to have a .982 save percentage this postseason

Man-crushin' on Boucher since 1999
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by Geoff Detweiler on Apr 15, 2010 11:57 AM EDT up reply actions  

His career playoff save percentage is the lowest on the chart and lower than the projected save percentage.

But you’re right, the only way I see a save percentage that low is if the Flyers are up 3-0 in the Finals after sweeping the other rounds and so the skaters players decide to see if Boucher can win by himself. He would, of course, but he may give up enough goals that his save percentage comes down to .913.

by thasmin on Apr 15, 2010 12:14 PM EDT up reply actions  

Wow, nothing but upsets last night.

by halx on Apr 15, 2010 12:10 PM EDT reply actions  

Technically, the PHX game wasn’t an upset.

"Sugah n' rainbows"

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by JpH89 on Apr 15, 2010 12:34 PM EDT up reply actions  

One more random note from me:

Is anyone else seriously worried about Jeff Carter? He kinda looks like he’s skating on a broken bone.

by Snevik on Apr 15, 2010 12:43 PM EDT reply actions  

He seemed relatively invisible to me last night and I would assume that is at least somewhat a result on the injury, so I am pretty worried. I’m slightly more worried about Kovy, if he gets those kinds of opportunities again he is bound to bury them, can’t count on Boosh’s glove being in the right spot all the time, or Kovy missing the net. The guy scared the crud out of me..on the plus side, he makes the Devils far more entertaining to watch.

by DLJr on Apr 15, 2010 12:57 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah, I wish he wasn’t rushed back into the lineup early. A healthy Jeff Carter becomes the Flyer’s most dangerous offensive player, someone that other teams have to focus on defensively — a not fully healed Jeff Carter, clearly is not.

Under the circumstances I understand why Carter rushed himself back … the team could have been fishing right now, so it’s kinda hard to resist the temptation, but what we need for the playoffs is a guy who is physically up to the challenge and not nursing an injury.

I hope I’m wrong on this, but it doesn’t look that way in the last 2 games.

by Gizmoitus on Apr 15, 2010 2:57 PM EDT up reply actions  

His assist on the Matt Carle goal to tie up the Rangers game Sunday justified his return to the lineup.

by chrislanci on Apr 15, 2010 4:55 PM EDT up reply actions  

yeah, i thought so too. worst-case, it’s still broken and getting worse. best-case, he’s nowhere near game shape. i feel like this is what carter’ll look like 10 years from now…he has a great shot, but so much of his game is speed since he’s such a strong skater, and without wheels he really looks lost

by lerris on Apr 15, 2010 12:54 PM EDT reply actions  

oops

this was in response to snevik, my fault

by lerris on Apr 15, 2010 12:55 PM EDT up reply actions  

I loved Laviolette pairing Pronger with Timonnen when they were protecting a lead at the end of the game. Nobody’s scoring on that late game defensive duo

by njh3293 on Apr 15, 2010 1:48 PM EDT reply actions  

Okay, one more random note. The Pens’ playoff slogan this year: “Out for Justice.” Apparently, there’s a pandemic of righteousness in the Pens’ locker room, and they are united around have wronged they’ve been. They are stonewalling on the details and origin of the catchphrase.

Hubris is fun.

http://www.ottawacitizen.com/sports/champs+want+justice/2908245/story.html

by Snevik on Apr 15, 2010 2:52 PM EDT reply actions  

This came apparently from Bill Guerin. “Someone” hid his dentures on him earlier in the season and he still hasn’t found the culprit.

Crosby is also looking for justice, as there were no arrests involved in the misbagging of his Olympic gold medal scoring stick. Along with that outrage, he still has no idea what happened to his favorite blankie.

by Gizmoitus on Apr 15, 2010 3:03 PM EDT up reply actions  

Justice? So are they going to be eliminated in the 1st round?

I love the Lightning AND the Flyers... go ahead, preach me!

by Katchis on Apr 15, 2010 3:05 PM EDT up reply actions   2 recs

Out in 5 for Justice.

by Snevik on Apr 15, 2010 5:00 PM EDT up reply actions  

Pronounced “Yustice.”

Out for Yustice.

Do you see what happens when you find a stranger in the Alps?

by mikefive on Apr 15, 2010 5:27 PM EDT up reply actions  

That’s worse than Relentless. If anyone should be out for justice, it should be Simon Gagne who keeps having all of his goals stolen this season. F.U., FSN Pittsburgh!

"Tortorella’s got it all wrong ... Gaborik shouldn’t be messing with our skilled player." -Peter Luuko

by doubleh on Apr 15, 2010 5:38 PM EDT up reply actions  

I think the Flyers’ slogan for 2006-07 (and for long stretches this year) should have been, “Wait, How Do You Play?”

There is a story behind that line. BUT I CAN’T TELL YOU because NONE OF YOU ARE ON THE PENGUINS, and NEITHER AM I.

Do you see what happens when you find a stranger in the Alps?

by mikefive on Apr 15, 2010 6:57 PM EDT up reply actions  

But I wanna be a cool kid! /stamps foot

"Tortorella’s got it all wrong ... Gaborik shouldn’t be messing with our skilled player." -Peter Luuko

by doubleh on Apr 15, 2010 8:43 PM EDT up reply actions  

There’s nothing really that cool about it. Years ago I was a major-league pothead and the line came out of a particularly stoned exchange.

Do you see what happens when you find a stranger in the Alps?

by mikefive on Apr 16, 2010 12:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

given the amount of biased calls going their way, shouldn’t the rest of the league be out for justice?

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by psudrozz on Apr 15, 2010 10:45 PM EDT up reply actions  

who fed the wildlife?

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by HockeyOutsiders on Apr 15, 2010 3:04 PM EDT reply actions  

Lappy’s comments about Richards is interesting, considering he played with JOE SAKIC!

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by ToddtheFox on Apr 15, 2010 7:38 PM EDT reply actions  

Caps lose!

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by ToddtheFox on Apr 15, 2010 10:16 PM EDT reply actions  

Wow, I don’t think I would have ever predicted this many game 1 upsets

by DragonGirl0583 on Apr 15, 2010 10:33 PM EDT up reply actions  

so caps and pitt lost?

don’t tell bettman.

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by psudrozz on Apr 15, 2010 10:49 PM EDT up reply actions  

Caps are a terrible playoff team, just like the sharks.

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by JpH89 on Apr 15, 2010 11:58 PM EDT up reply actions  

just got to play a little defense

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by psudrozz on Apr 16, 2010 7:15 AM EDT up reply actions  


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