ECQF Game Two: Time on Ice Numbers
After Game One, Scott Hartnell couldn't do much worse. And he didn't. He actually had a good game.
There were a lot of power plays yesterday, which contributed to a lot of the low scores. While the official shot totals saw the Devils out-shoot the Flyers 32-29, those totals fell to 24-18 at even strength.
Jump to see the in-depth shot breakdown.
Rather than showing the zone starts - The Flyers started in the defensive zone 7 times more than the offensive - we'll just see the outliers:
- Matt Carle started in the defensive zone 11 times, offensive zone 4 times.
- Scott Hartnell and Kimmo Timonen were the only players with more offensive zone starts than defensive, as Timonen had 5 offensive zone starts to 3 defensive.
- Both James van Riemsdyk and Ryan Parent had two defensive starts and 0 offensive. Not really a surprise for Parent, but definitely a surprise for van Riemsdyk
- Darroll Powe had 5 defensive starts and only 1 offensive, while Danny Briere had 6 defensive and 2 offensive. Not exactly what you would expect.
If you want to look at all of them, click here.
| Player | Goals | Saved Shots | Missed Shots | Fenwick | Blocked Shots | Corsi | ||||
| Bartulis | 1 | 2 | 6 | 8 | 3 | 4 | -4 | 3 | 1 | -2 |
| Coburn | 0 | 0 | 5 | 11 | 0 | 3 | -9 | 3 | 2 | -8 |
| Betts | 0 | 0 | 0 | 2 | 0 | 1 | -3 | 4 | 0 | 1 |
| Gagne | 0 | 0 | 6 | 10 | 2 | 3 | -5 | 2 | 3 | -6 |
| Carcillo | 0 | 0 | 3 | 5 | 0 | 0 | -2 | 2 | 1 | -1 |
| Laperriere | 0 | 1 | 2 | 3 | 0 | 2 | -4 | 4 | 0 | 0 |
| Carter | 0 | 2 | 5 | 7 | 3 | 4 | -5 | 2 | 2 | -5 |
| Richards | 0 | 0 | 8 | 9 | 2 | 4 | -3 | 3 | 3 | -3 |
| Hartnell | 0 | 1 | 4 | 4 | 1 | 2 | -2 | 2 | 2 | -2 |
| Pronger | 0 | 0 | 6 | 5 | 2 | 2 | 1 | 5 | 3 | 3 |
| van Riemsdyk | 1 | 1 | 3 | 4 | 2 | 3 | -2 | 2 | 1 | -1 |
| Carle | 0 | 0 | 7 | 6 | 2 | 1 | 2 | 6 | 2 | 6 |
| Giroux | 1 | 0 | 5 | 6 | 1 | 0 | 1 | 2 | 1 | 2 |
| Boucher | 1 | 2 | 17 | 22 | 5 | 9 | -10 | 11 | 6 | -5 |
| Powe | 0 | 0 | 4 | 4 | 1 | 1 | 0 | 4 | 1 | 3 |
| Timonen | 0 | 0 | 6 | 4 | 0 | 4 | -2 | 3 | 3 | -2 |
| Asham | 1 | 0 | 5 | 6 | 0 | 3 | -3 | 2 | 1 | -2 |
| Briere | 0 | 1 | 5 | 3 | 3 | 3 | 1 | 3 | 2 | 2 |
| Parent | 1 | 2 | 4 | 10 | 3 | 4 | -8 | 2 | 1 | -7 |
Two things I failed to do in the last post: 1) Here is where you can find these numbers; and 2) In each category, the first column is For, the second column is Against.
So, once again, the Flyers got out-shot. At even strength, the Devils out-shot the Flyers 24-18.
Shots on Goal
Only Danny Briere, Kimmo Timonen, Matt Carle, and Chris Pronger were on the ice for more shots on goal than against. Generally, that's not good. Overall, though, the numbers aren't too bad. The only players who were out-shot by 3 or more were Jeff Carter (4), Simon Gagne (4), Braydon Coburn (6), Ryan Parent (7), and Oskars Bartulis (3).
The worst news is that Braydon Coburn and Ryan Parent got completely owned. Well, so did Bartulis. That third pairing was on the ice for both Devils goals at even strength. It's a little strange that Parent gave up so many shots against while Bartulis didn't, but I'm assuming there was a shift Parent took with Coburn. Looking at the head-to-head charts, Parent clearly played a shift against Langenbrunner, Kovalchuk, and Zajac. That one shift must have been a really bad one.
Missed Shots
A lot of the negative Fenwick numbers above are the result of the the Devils missing the net. Just like with shots on target, only four Flyers finished with more shots getting through to Martin Brodeur than Brian Boucher. The only difference was Claude Giroux and Kimmo Timonen switching spots.
The two glaring weaknesses were Coburn and Parent again. When the team's Fenwick number is minus-10, and you have two guys who are minus-9 and minus-8, it's safe to say those two were the weak links.
Blocked Shots
Does it surprise anybody that the players on the ice for the most blocked shots were Blair Betts, Ian Laperriere, Darroll Powe, Chris Pronger, and Matt Carle? As a result, Matt Carle gets the Corsi award for the game, finishing a team-best plus-6.
At the opposite end, Braydon Coburn wears the dunce-cap as a minus-8 in this game. While a lot of the blame may - and likely will - go to Parent and Bartulis, Coburn deserves a lot of it too.
Conclusion
Besides the obvious (Stop pairing Bartulis with Parent!), the Flyers keep getting out-shot by the Devils. That is not a formula for success. Some of that may have to do with the Devils getting last change, but the past two games have seen the Flyers have one or two players clearly dragging them down. Every team will have one, but you can't win when those players are playing as badly as Scott Hartnell did in Game One and Coburn/Parent did in Game Two.
Getting out-shot is a problem. It needs to be fixed.
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James van Riemsdyk… had two defensive starts and 0 offensive…. definitely a surprise for van Riemsdyk
No, not at all surprising.
The first came at 3:07 of the first period, after the Flyers iced the puck.
The second one came at 17:44 of the first, again after the Flyers iced the puck.
It’s not surprising that the guy who played LW with Carter and Briere for every even-strength shift in the last 34 minutes of play, didn’t begin even ONE shift in the offensive zone?
Man-crushin' on Boucher since 1999
Broad Street Hockey - Makin' it look mean since 1967.
by Geoff Detweiler on Apr 17, 2010 10:46 PM EDT up reply actions
First off, thats not true since Carter (6:26) played two and a half minutes more of even strength hockey than JVR (3:51) in the 3rd period.
From late in the second period on, Lavi replaced JVR with Richards for non-neutral zone faceoffs. And he replaced Powe with either Carter or Giroux on the Richards line in those circumstances.
JVR’s shifts:
26th minute, With Carter and Briere – started on the Power Play, finished on even strength
31st minute, With Carter and Briere – on the PP
35th minute, With Carter and Briere
38th minute, With Carter
39th minute, With Carter and Briere
40th minute, With Carter and Briere
44th minute, With Carter and Briere
49th minute, With Carter and Briere
52nd minute, he played about 10 seconds without either of them. Sorry, I missed one shift.
53rd minute, With Carter and Briere
56th minute, With Carter and Briere
Others:
39th minute, JVR played with Carter, not Briere
The difference in time that you’re referencing, occured in the 57th and 59th minutes, when Boucher was on the bench. While technically “even-strength”, the Flyers had more skaters than the Devils.
Man-crushin' on Boucher since 1999
Broad Street Hockey - Makin' it look mean since 1967.
by Geoff Detweiler on Apr 18, 2010 2:12 PM EDT up reply actions
In fact, all you have to do is look at the Play by Play I already linked you to.
At 16:54, Hartnell-Carter-Briere took a draw coming off of a TV timeout.
At 18:30, Hartnell-Carter-Briere took another shift, while Boucher was still in the net.
The first event with Boucher out of net was at 18:54, so sometime between 18:30 and 18:54 is when he was pulled. Carter and Briere took two completely even-strength shifts with Hartnell.
ok, so 32 minutes of ES time instead of 34.
Carter and Briere’s LW for 32 minutes getting 0 offensive zone draws isn’t surprising to you. Interesting. Whatever.
Man-crushin' on Boucher since 1999
Broad Street Hockey - Makin' it look mean since 1967.
by Geoff Detweiler on Apr 19, 2010 11:28 AM EDT up reply actions
I’m sorry, but can someone give me a rundown on what the Fenwick and Corsi stats mean?
I’ve seen them thrown around a lot here, but I’ve never made heads or tails of them
Fenwick counts (Goals + Saves + Missed Shots). Basically, all the shots that make it through to – but not necessarily on – the net. It takes the shots for and subtracts the shots against.
Corsi is the exact same thing, but adds in Blocked Shots.
It’s used to see who controlled the play, based on how many shots were directed at the net while each player was on the ice.
Man-crushin' on Boucher since 1999
Broad Street Hockey - Makin' it look mean since 1967.
by Geoff Detweiler on Apr 18, 2010 12:04 AM EDT up reply actions
I was about to ask if this specifies Post-Icing Defensive faceoffs… but I see from MarioD that this does not include such stats, which, if included, would paint a clearer picture of the coaches’ decisions.
by composerjohnson on Apr 18, 2010 12:33 PM EDT reply actions

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