Meet goalie number seven: Flyers sign Sebastien Caron
by Travis Hughes on Apr 2, 2010 1:23 AM EDT
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The Flyers have signed goaltender Sebastien Caron, as first reported by media in Quebec. The journeyman is a former draft pick of the Pittsburgh Penguins who had been playing in the top league over in Switzerland.
We'll link you his numbers here, but just know that he wasn't all that great over there. Swiss hockey isn't exactly the Swedish Elite league, either. He's just not a good goalie, hence one of the reasons the Penguins went ahead and drafted Marc-Andre Fleury.
Earlier this week, Paul Holmgren said he was after any and all options in the Flyers crease. It's safe to say now that was an accurate statement. It shows clear desperation in the Flyers front office. Beyond that, really. It's just... a complete nightmare. Words don't describe.
Brian Boucher hasn't gotten the job done for whatever reason, and with Johan Backlund out and the only other option being an ECHL-caliber guy, Caron is going to have to be the answer. Will he be Boucher's backup? That's up to Laviolette, I'm sure. Either way, he's likely an upgrade from Jeremy Duchesne. Notice how I said likely and not definitely, by the way.
There is one bright side to Caron, though. You likely remember him from such 2006-06 saves as "The Night Brian Savage Decided To Retire."
According to the Daily News, Caron has a one-way, one-year deal for $500,000. Pro rate that and you'll see that the Flyers are paying him about 4 dollars and 6 cents. He won't be eligible for the playoffs, so it's five games for this guy. Does that qualify him to even get a name plate on his jersey? I hope they start him just so we can see that green mask contrast with the orange jersey.
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Well if he isn’t eligible for the playoffs then obviously he’s just to give the flyers two goalies that have nhl experience. Obviously Boucher and Backlund will be the playoff pair and if Leighton comes back by some chance then he and Boucher will be the playoff goalies. While this isn’t an Ideal situation if we make the playoffs it does give someone either Boucher or Backlund a chance to make a mark.
Gone are the days of the Brian Boucher Quintuple Shutout Extravaganza
A friend of mine just dubbed this the seven-headed goalie Hydra.
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Hmm, if you count Hutton, Caron would be the EIGHTH goalie of the season
Anyone remember Michael-Lee Teslak?
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Teslak never dressed this year… I thought.
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by Geoff Detweiler on Apr 2, 2010 11:08 AM EDT up reply actions
Nah, he didn’t. Unless I blocked that game out of memory?
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by Travis Hughes on Apr 2, 2010 11:09 AM EDT up reply actions
Sounded like just October 1. Maybe it was a precaution then - but he's listed as 1 day and $5000 on the team's salary cap
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Come to think of it, I think he might’ve been called up but he didn’t dress.
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by Travis Hughes on Apr 2, 2010 4:35 PM EDT up reply actions
Okay, I think I figured it out
He was on the roster on October 1 just in case Boucher couldn’t go the next day. There was no game on the 1st. He was reassigned after that, presumably to Adirondack, and Backlund backed up Emery (per the game summary page). Technically Teslak was on the roster for that day, drew his $5,000 paycheque, and then hit the minors.
I like that Teslak’s NHL salary is higher than Backlund, Duchesne, Leighton, and Caron. It’s only $50,000 less than Boucher’s.
I guess I’d call Caron goalie number seven*. That asterisk is important. Ish.
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This makes me wish that they still had JS Aubin in the system.
At least he’s a better Penguins reject…
Damn that hurts to say.
by Sals Stache on Apr 2, 2010 4:24 AM EDT via mobile reply actions
Tim McManus said something funny last night… along the lines of “John Grahame left the organization because he thought he wouldn’t get a shot…”
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by Travis Hughes on Apr 2, 2010 11:09 AM EDT up reply actions
I think it’s unlikely that Boucher is on the team next year. I think a buyout is a good possibility. It would only cost the team $300K in salary cap space next year and in 2011.
I’m torn at this point if Boucher has the ability to even be a backup.
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by HockeyOutsiders on Apr 2, 2010 10:53 AM EDT up reply actions
I just got a voicemail from Paul asking me what I’m doing next season. He’s seen some grainy video footage of me playing roller in net and thinks I’m the way forward.
"NZFlyerfan"
At least you’d get to come over here! You wanted to visit, didn’t ya? ;)
by DragonGirl0583 on Apr 2, 2010 8:57 PM EDT up reply actions
I don’t understand all this Boucher love. I don’t care if half the goals that go in against him are not his fault, the point is goals are going in! He has not stolen one game for us or kept us in a close game, and that’s exactly what we need, especially now when were fighting for the playoffs. Obviously, he is the only goalie we can go with at this time, but the guy isn’t exactly or hasn’t been spectacular.
I would argue that it’s just not his fault most times, but yes. Fact of the matter is the team isn’t winning when he’s in goal, and that matters.
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by Travis Hughes on Apr 2, 2010 11:22 AM EDT up reply actions
like i’ve said before, they should just all go out and shoot pucks at Boucher’s head in practice and get it over with.
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by HockeyOutsiders on Apr 2, 2010 11:32 AM EDT up reply actions
That's what we do in Ottawa.
Oh Pascal Leclaire…
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He has not stolen one game for us or kept us in a close game, and that’s exactly what we need, especially now when were fighting for the playoffs.
I don’t understand all this “Boucher has to steal games” argument. It’s Brian Boucher. why are we counting on this guy to “steal games” when the team has Pronger, Timonen, Carle, and Coburn on defense? Why do we need him to steal games when we have Richards, Gagne, Briere, Hartnell, and Giroux up front?
If the Capitals lose Jose Theodore and Semyon Varlamov, do you think they’ll be slamming Michal Neuvirth for not “stealing games”, because what they need is their third string goalie to stand on his head? NO! That’s the time Neuvirth (or Boucher) need to just make the saves he can. The TEAM should be stealing games. Shut down defense, timely scoring, puck possession, back-checking, winning puck battles, etc. Not, “man, Bouher didn’t stop that 2-on-1 goal where Carle got beat. He sucks!”
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by Geoff Detweiler on Apr 2, 2010 11:35 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
100 percent true.
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by Travis Hughes on Apr 2, 2010 11:39 AM EDT up reply actions
Also:
March 28 1ga goal on 33 shots against the division leader.
March 16 Comes in trailing 2-1, three seconds later a man is left alone in the slot off the faceoff and buries a rebound to make a 3-1, Boucher proceeds to stop each of the next 24 shots and allows only 1 shootout goal while the Flyers go 0/3 and the Flyers steal a point.
Thats not including some of his awesome play in december.
Is this the first time we’ve agreed since October? I feel like it is…
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by Geoff Detweiler on Apr 2, 2010 12:37 PM EDT up reply actions
That fits in perfectly with the Flyer’s front office strategy over the past 20 years. We don’t need a good goaltender, we have all these great dudes in front of him.
I don’t expect Boucher to be superman in goal, but he just isn’t up to snuff. He lets in soft goals all the time and rarely makes big OMG saves.
As for him stealing games, that has been my biggest issue with the Flyer’s all year. They’ve had lots of adversity, lots of bumps during big games, and they just fall apart. No one steps to save the game, not the high paid veterans, not the goalie, and certainly not the captain.
But my point is that people are blaming Boucher for being him. He doesn’t steal games. He doesn’t make big OMG saves. That’s not him. As you said, that’s the Flyers front office strategy: Get an average goalie and hope the team plays for him.
So all this Boucher hate should be directed at either the front office for doing it again, or at the team for not playing in front of Boucher. Expecting Boucher to suddenly be better than he’s ever been because the team needs him to be, then crucifying him for being him is ludicrous.
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by Geoff Detweiler on Apr 2, 2010 12:53 PM EDT up reply actions
So all this Boucher hate should be directed at
The coach who has them playing a style of hockey completely ill-suited to the roster he has. And by proxy, to the front office for hiring him to do that.
And I just said we were starting to agree… But you can’t just agree, you gotta go back to the “style of hockey”.
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by Geoff Detweiler on Apr 3, 2010 12:33 AM EDT up reply actions
Define average goalie for me Geoff of the last 10 goals he let in 4 of them could have been stopped an average high school goalie.
First, 10 goals is a great sample size. No margin for error there at all.
Second, this post from Jonathan Willis is fantastic. The important parts for you are:
Here’s the list, ranked by save percentage this season. The number in brackets is their average save percentage over the last three years. Brian Boucher, PHI: 5GP, .930 SV% (.904)
And
The average starter numbers are the average of the 30 NHL goalies with the most games played; the average backup numbers come from goalies 31-60. Average NHL Backup: .904 SV%
Boucher has exactly an average NHL backup for the past 3 years.
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by Geoff Detweiler on Apr 3, 2010 1:01 AM EDT up reply actions
You should probably clarify that it’s this iteration of Boucher doesn’t steal games. Because, like…the 2000 playoffs and that insane shut-out streak speak pretty loudly.
Well, yeah.
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by Geoff Detweiler on Apr 3, 2010 12:33 AM EDT up reply actions
Oh, and Jonathan Willis had this story long before the Inquirer or Daily News. I clipped it last night.
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by Geoff Detweiler on Apr 2, 2010 11:40 AM EDT reply actions
I’m disappointed that nobody has discussed that save and/or Brian Savage.
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I just wonder who is in net tonight.
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by HockeyOutsiders on Apr 2, 2010 5:34 PM EDT up reply actions
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