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ECQF Game 4: Briere, Carter awaken to give Flyers commanding series lead

Gotta imagine that Carcillo is staring down Ilya Kovalchuk in this photo.


Danny Briere and Jeff Carter were both having themselves fairly terrible playoffs through the first three games of this series.  Their line had been a drag on the offense, with even Dan Carcillo outscoring them on his own. 

But the drought ended in a big way in the second period of this Game 4.  Jeff Carter scored on a wicked low wrister on the power play to level the game at 1-1, and Danny Briere rifled a shot right under the crossbar to beat a stunned Martin Brodeur for the eventual game-winner.  Carcillo and Carter added a third and fourth to give the Flyers a comfortable 4-1 win and an even more comfortable 3-1 lead in this best-of-seven series.

Without further ado, the bullets:

  • There were nineteen penalties in this game.  Nineteen.  Ten for the Devils, nine for the Flyers.  For a playoff game without any fights, that's ludicrous.  Put the whistles away and let the boys play.  That's what playoff hockey should be all about.
  • The defense, anchored by Brian Boucher, was super solid throughout.  Boucher was never spectacular, but he (almost) never had to be.  The one goal the Devils managed was a Kovalchuk tally at 5-on-3, which was mostly made possible by Kimmo Timonen totally overplaying Zach Parise and totally taking himself out of the play.
  • Martin Brodeur was so pumped about that glove save he made that he promptly gave up four goals. 
  • Four goals is a lot, but it could have been more if the Flyers didn't have such a tendency to force passes that aren't there on 2-on-1s.  Selfishness pays, boys.  Don't be afraid of the glory.
  • The Devils actually outshot the Flyers in this one, 31-28.  Color me surprised.
  • Simon Gagne leaving the game before the third period with some sort of foot/ankle injury becomes whatever the opposite of a silver lining is on this game.  Here's hoping he's back by Thursday.  If not, here's hoping the Flyers get a week or so off for him to heal up.
  • I feel obliged to point out that Geoff predicted that the Devils would take this series in 6.

After the jump, questions answered, a comment of the night, and more celebratin'.

Star-divide

Questions to Answer:

  1. Can the Flyers continue to shut down Kovalchuk, Parise, and the Devils offense? Yep.  The only goal the Devils managed was on a 5-on-3.
  2. Will the parade to the penalty box come to a halt tonight? No, it's still ridiculous and an affront to everything playoff hockey is supposed to be.
  3. Is Martin Brodeur as magnificent as he was in the third period on Sunday? Not at all.
  4. Can Danny Briere or Jeff Carter show up on the scoresheet tonight? Several times each.
  5. When inevitably on the PK, can Blair Betts and Ian Laperriere continue to be awesome? PK was awesome, as per usual.

Comment of the Night:

CARCILLLLLLLLLLLLO… conn smythe? --edbro

One game away from the promised land.  Go Flyers.

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Boucher > Brodeur

Mauldin Played for Columbus a few years ago, He has six career games.

by Mark D on Apr 20, 2010 10:59 PM EDT reply actions  

Carcillo>Kovalchuk

Mancrushin' on Geoff since April 20
"Good night. Good hockey."

by KreiderDesigns on Apr 20, 2010 11:03 PM EDT up reply actions  

Boucher has definitely been great this series. I used to doubt the Boosh but he has really impressed me with his play towards the end of the season and into this series.

by edbro on Apr 20, 2010 11:07 PM EDT up reply actions  

WOOHOO comment of the night!

Anyways, what I thought was really important this game was how the Flyers came out and started the third period. They promptly killed off the penalty and went on the attack. I was really expecting them to just sit back and try and defend the lead like they did in game 1. Instead they did the smart thing and kept up the offensive pressure and cabomb sealed the win.

Now lets just hope Gags and Carter are healthy for Thursday.

by edbro on Apr 20, 2010 11:04 PM EDT reply actions  

new page?

you’re absolutely right. i was flipping back and forth from the phils game (ugh) and in the 3rd (period, not inning) every time i flipped back we were up another goal! lol. the flyers of pastime would’ve done what we both feared… protect the lead… not these guys, they played hard all the way to the end. if we wanna sniff that cup, we’ll have to keep this level of intensity throughout the rest of the playoffs.
first things first, let’s beat the devs…

by PHIGHTINPHILS on Apr 21, 2010 9:30 AM EDT up reply actions  

John Boruk is scaring me… I said this on the bottom of the game thread, but here’s the tweet to match what he said on Sportsnite:

CSNFlyer – One source tells me of Gagne’s injury, “It doesn’t look good.”

by DragonGirl0583 on Apr 20, 2010 11:05 PM EDT reply actions  

Quick, someone call Vinny Prospal!

by Ben Feldman on Apr 20, 2010 11:07 PM EDT up reply actions  

Well he is playing golf at the moment…

by DragonGirl0583 on Apr 20, 2010 11:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

Good picture choice, Mr. Rothenberg! I concur!

So I am trying to avoid all the Gagne speculation but…if Simon can’t go, we gonna see Leino?

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by Mitchell Green on Apr 20, 2010 11:07 PM EDT reply actions  

Riley Cote? Hello?

by edbro on Apr 20, 2010 11:08 PM EDT up reply actions  

We could only hope!

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by Mitchell Green on Apr 20, 2010 11:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

I hope not, I’d go crazy, but it wouldn’t shock me if it happened.

by edbro on Apr 20, 2010 11:13 PM EDT up reply actions  

I am with you. Total sarcasm. I’d be so pissed!

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by Mitchell Green on Apr 20, 2010 11:15 PM EDT up reply actions  

I’m taking credit for changing it, but I only did so to add the links up top.

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by Travis Hughes on Apr 20, 2010 11:08 PM EDT up reply actions  

Either way, I love it!

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by Mitchell Green on Apr 20, 2010 11:09 PM EDT up reply actions  

Gotta be Leino.

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by Travis Hughes on Apr 20, 2010 11:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

I love Gagne, but he’s been in a slump. I would not be too bummed if Gagne is out and Leino is his replacement.

Now if the Flyers go nuts and choose Cote….

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by Justin F. on Apr 20, 2010 11:17 PM EDT up reply actions  

I wouldn’t say Gags is in a slump. Hartnell is in a slump but Gagne not so much. Gagne could have easily had 4 goals this series. A couple off of the post and one right into Marty’s glove tonight. He’s definitely getting good scoring chances, it is just a matter of time before they stat taking friendly bounces for him.

by edbro on Apr 20, 2010 11:19 PM EDT up reply actions  

Slumping is definitely different to being unlucky. He’s hit like four posts these playoffs.

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by ToddtheFox on Apr 20, 2010 11:19 PM EDT up reply actions  

Bad word choice on my part. Like I said, I love Gagne, but putting in someone whose luck might be a bit better may not be the worst thing in the world.

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by Justin F. on Apr 20, 2010 11:23 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah, but I’d rather sit Hartnell for Leino a million times before I sit Gags for Leino. That is unless Gagne is slightly injured.

by edbro on Apr 20, 2010 11:26 PM EDT up reply actions  

Agree

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by ToddtheFox on Apr 20, 2010 11:27 PM EDT up reply actions  

Oh, I definitely agree with that. But if Gagne is hurt and can’t go, putting in Leino would not have me in a rut.

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by Justin F. on Apr 20, 2010 11:29 PM EDT up reply actions  

No. Same if Hartnell wasn’t injured but Leino was put in his place

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by ToddtheFox on Apr 20, 2010 11:31 PM EDT up reply actions  

In my very humble opinion, this comment needs to be green.

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by Travis Hughes on Apr 20, 2010 11:09 PM EDT up reply actions  

I helped the “Go Green” cause

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by Mitchell Green on Apr 20, 2010 11:10 PM EDT up reply actions  

That was fast, yall. golf clap

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by Travis Hughes on Apr 20, 2010 11:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

What’s a golf clap?

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by ToddtheFox on Apr 20, 2010 11:21 PM EDT up reply actions  

Just a small, polite clap

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by Travis Hughes on Apr 20, 2010 11:23 PM EDT up reply actions  

Oh I see, I would call it a Queen’s clap.

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by ToddtheFox on Apr 20, 2010 11:25 PM EDT up reply actions  

It can also mean a clap that’s sarcastic or something like that, but that’s not how I meant it.

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by Travis Hughes on Apr 20, 2010 11:26 PM EDT up reply actions  

I see. A golf clap in bold got me confused

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by ToddtheFox on Apr 20, 2010 11:28 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah, it was supposed to be between two asterisks but I always forget the auto-format

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by Travis Hughes on Apr 20, 2010 11:29 PM EDT up reply actions  

yeah that pisses me off a lot too

"Sugah n' rainbows"

"We will steal the show, jolly Rogers go, we are wolves of the sea."

by JpH89 on Apr 20, 2010 11:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

What does this guy want 12 PP’s to 4 per game it is not like the Devils aren’t getting any Powerplays. I just wish they wouldn’t call all the minor tick tack calls on both sides it is ridiculous. Any time a guy goes down the refs are blowing the whistle, it is retarded.

by chrislanci on Apr 21, 2010 9:23 AM EDT up reply actions  

You’ve got to love that. The one comment in their game thread went something along the lines of “They should call themselves the Philadelphia Divers”. Apparently every penalty against the Devils is due to a dive by a Flyer and every noncall against the Flyers was a blatantly missed penalty call by the refs.

by edbro on Apr 20, 2010 11:12 PM EDT up reply actions  

And every penalty assessed the Flyers is a legitimate call while good call while every noncall against the Devils is a good noncall.

Don’t get me wrong, these refs have been horrible, but take off the red glasses and actually watch the game.

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by Justin F. on Apr 20, 2010 11:22 PM EDT up reply actions  

Of course this ignores that the Flyers were good against the Devils in the Regular season too.

Mauldin Played for Columbus a few years ago, He has six career games.

by Mark D on Apr 20, 2010 11:45 PM EDT up reply actions  

opposite of a silver lining….a skid mark?

by KevinEdward on Apr 20, 2010 11:10 PM EDT reply actions  

I always liked...

“turd in the punch bowl” personally.

by tonycpsu on Apr 20, 2010 11:55 PM EDT up reply actions  

Listening to Montreal’s 990 AM. They are talking about the Flyers/Devils. Dude running the show is a douchebag. At no point has he given the Flyers any credit for the way they have played, chalking it up to Brodeur and Parise being burnt from the Olympics and that the trap no longer works, yadda, yadda, yadda. Just pissing me off. The Flyers have done everything they have needed to do and Boosh has been great. Say that, dude!

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by Mitchell Green on Apr 20, 2010 11:24 PM EDT reply actions  

Brodeur, tired from the Olympics? Didn’t he play like half a game?

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by Travis Hughes on Apr 20, 2010 11:26 PM EDT up reply actions  

Burnt out from giving up eleventy billion goals in game one then getting benched for the remainder of the games must have been really tiring.

"Tortorella’s got it all wrong ... Gaborik shouldn’t be messing with our skilled player." -Peter Luuko

by doubleh on Apr 20, 2010 11:31 PM EDT up reply actions  

If he made eleventy billion save attempts he could be excused.

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by ToddtheFox on Apr 20, 2010 11:32 PM EDT up reply actions  

Brodeur burnt out from the 1 game he played in the Olympics?

by edbro on Apr 20, 2010 11:26 PM EDT up reply actions  

edbro and I — same wave length

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by Travis Hughes on Apr 20, 2010 11:26 PM EDT up reply actions  

I know. So frustrating! Com’on! Give the Flyers some friggen credit! He is just so mad that the Flyers are winning. He picked the Devils to win the Cup. They are bringing up the Flyers’ locker room “chasm” between veterans and young players. Good lord, give us some credit. Pronger played 27:58 mins tonight!

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by Mitchell Green on Apr 20, 2010 11:29 PM EDT up reply actions  

Everyone picked the Devils to advance at least. I think of all the “expert” picks I saw, only two from ESPN chose the Flyers to go through

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by ToddtheFox on Apr 20, 2010 11:32 PM EDT up reply actions  

I know Bucci picked Flyers in seven. I didn’t bother to look at the rest of the ESPN “experts” picks, considering their most-hyped “expert” is the Mullet.

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by The Dark on Apr 21, 2010 11:00 AM EDT up reply actions  

Isn’t Wyshinski on there? Is that who you’re talking about?

by DragonGirl0583 on Apr 20, 2010 11:32 PM EDT up reply actions  

Ya, thats why I started listening to it. I wanted to see what he was going to say as a Devils fan.

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by Mitchell Green on Apr 20, 2010 11:33 PM EDT up reply actions  

But by “the dude running the show” you mean the guy from the station, or you mean Wysh?

by DragonGirl0583 on Apr 20, 2010 11:34 PM EDT up reply actions  

Wysh is done and they have moved to a new DJ(?). Matthew something…

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by Mitchell Green on Apr 20, 2010 11:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

Okay, just making sure. I was scared for a second that he was the one doing it.

by DragonGirl0583 on Apr 20, 2010 11:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

Wysh doing anything hockey related is a scary thought

"Sugah n' rainbows"

"We will steal the show, jolly Rogers go, we are wolves of the sea."

by JpH89 on Apr 20, 2010 11:44 PM EDT up reply actions  

Wait, what?

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by Travis Hughes on Apr 20, 2010 11:46 PM EDT up reply actions  

I think hes horrible at his job

"Sugah n' rainbows"

"We will steal the show, jolly Rogers go, we are wolves of the sea."

by JpH89 on Apr 20, 2010 11:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

Really? Why?

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by ToddtheFox on Apr 20, 2010 11:53 PM EDT up reply actions  

I think hes biased, he never writes anything worth reading(its either stupid, or something days old), and when he gives a prediction, hes always wrong.

"Sugah n' rainbows"

"We will steal the show, jolly Rogers go, we are wolves of the sea."

by JpH89 on Apr 21, 2010 12:05 AM EDT up reply actions  

I couldn’t picture him as a player or a ref.

Mauldin Played for Columbus a few years ago, He has six career games.

by Mark D on Apr 20, 2010 11:47 PM EDT up reply actions  

Martin Brodeur told Gulitti that tonight’s game will “say a lot about our team.” Unfortunately, it says that you can’t rise above the Philadelphia Flyers. It sucks

I think this Auote says it all.

I wasn't even a year old but I stayed up to be outside the Vet with my Dad and Mom when the Phillies won the World Series 1980.

by Christopher A on Apr 21, 2010 12:16 AM EDT up reply actions  

Must be from lugging the medal around

by JerseyDriver on Apr 20, 2010 11:27 PM EDT reply actions  

I for one am interested to see what the attendance looks like at Game 5…

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by doubleh on Apr 20, 2010 11:33 PM EDT reply actions  

Holy Predators

Chicago 1
Nashville 4
0:31 3rd

Martin Erat scored on a penalty shot!

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by Mitchell Green on Apr 20, 2010 11:33 PM EDT reply actions  

I really want the Preds to do well in the west

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by ToddtheFox on Apr 20, 2010 11:34 PM EDT up reply actions  

I want to see the Preds do well as well, but I just can’t get myself to get into that series.

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by Justin F. on Apr 20, 2010 11:44 PM EDT up reply actions  

You mean COL-SJ

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by Travis Hughes on Apr 20, 2010 11:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

lmoa, yeah,,,,it’s getting late

by JerseyDriver on Apr 20, 2010 11:37 PM EDT up reply actions  

Gagne has a fractured toe — SanFilippo

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by Mitchell Green on Apr 20, 2010 11:38 PM EDT reply actions  

Nooooooooooooo. How long does that make him out for?

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by ToddtheFox on Apr 20, 2010 11:38 PM EDT up reply actions  

He will be reevaluated today and will likely be considered day-to-day right up until game time for Game 5 Thursday.

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by Mitchell Green on Apr 20, 2010 11:39 PM EDT up reply actions  

Day-to-day, according to SanFillippo’s blog.

Depending on the top, he could be fine with some tape. Big toe might be an issue though.

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by Travis Hughes on Apr 20, 2010 11:40 PM EDT up reply actions  

on the tie***

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by Travis Hughes on Apr 20, 2010 11:40 PM EDT up reply actions  

the TOE, jebus

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by Travis Hughes on Apr 20, 2010 11:40 PM EDT up reply actions  

da da da da, bwaaaaaaaa (price is right noise if that helps)

"Sugah n' rainbows"

"We will steal the show, jolly Rogers go, we are wolves of the sea."

by JpH89 on Apr 20, 2010 11:43 PM EDT up reply actions  

Not the first Philly sports blog to use that tonight.

by ThinMountainAir on Apr 20, 2010 11:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

Pretty hilarious that that’s the only thing above the jump.

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by Travis Hughes on Apr 20, 2010 11:54 PM EDT up reply actions  

If its not giving him trouble then play him. If he has any discomfort you might as well sit him for Leino seeing as Game 5 isn’t an absolute must win.

by edbro on Apr 20, 2010 11:41 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah, unless it’s the big toe or a toe is completely shattered, it should be okay. I played every season of field hockey with at least one toe broken at some point, and I’ve had to run and skate with even the big toe broken (but it wasn’t a real bad break). It does hurt real bad when it first happens, though.

by DragonGirl0583 on Apr 20, 2010 11:45 PM EDT up reply actions  

Tape that sh*t up and get him out there lol

by JerseyDriver on Apr 20, 2010 11:39 PM EDT up reply actions  

I’m no expert on injuries, but if Carter is playing a couple weeks after a fractured foot then a fractured toe doesn’t seem like a huge issue to me.

by edbro on Apr 20, 2010 11:40 PM EDT up reply actions  

As long as he is OK, Im hoping a shattered baby toe breaks the snake bite curse he is afflicted with.

by Prometheus74 on Apr 21, 2010 1:42 AM EDT up reply actions  

Carter’s injury was on a non weight bearing bone though. I’m no medical expert, but if a supporting bone is fractured as opposed to one that does not support, it can cause much more discomfort.

by bfrank27 on Apr 21, 2010 7:51 AM EDT up reply actions  

Whats with all these reports that there are serious issues in the Flyers locker room? I mean we knew that but there hasn’t been anything that has come up recently. Dennis Bernstein, Senior NHL Writer at the The Fourth Period, says he is writing a piece about the Flyers and that there is going to be a “serious locker room blow up” this summer. WTF? Where is this coming from?

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by Mitchell Green on Apr 20, 2010 11:45 PM EDT reply actions  

I’m sure he’s just taking Homer’s “some guys will be back and some guys won’t be” remark from like 3 weeks ago and trying to make news.

by DragonGirl0583 on Apr 20, 2010 11:46 PM EDT up reply actions  

There are definitely no locker room issues right now. That much is crystal clear. Probably going to be hard for Homer to evaluate the team this offseason though — what does he base his assessments of the team’s chemistry, etc. on?

by Ben Feldman on Apr 20, 2010 11:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

Seriously — I wouldn’t want Homer’s job right now. A lot to be seen in the way the playoffs unfold, but the team is like night and day between the season and the playoffs so far. In attitude, at least.

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by Travis Hughes on Apr 20, 2010 11:56 PM EDT up reply actions  

Towards the end of the season, Asham said something like “We’re a family in here, and we’re finally starting to play like one.”

I choose to take that literally!

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by mikefive on Apr 20, 2010 11:57 PM EDT up reply actions  

Arron Asham
Mike Richards Asham
Chris Pronger Asham
Simon Gagne Asham
Peter Laviolette Asham
James van Riemsdyk Asham

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by Travis Hughes on Apr 21, 2010 12:01 AM EDT up reply actions  

Don’t forget Dan Carcillo Asham, Brian Boucher Asham, Jeff Carter Asham, and Scott Hartnell Asham

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by Justin F. on Apr 21, 2010 12:03 AM EDT up reply actions  

Do you think Harts made the cut?

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by ToddtheFox on Apr 21, 2010 12:05 AM EDT up reply actions  

look at his hair, and you will see its been a while since its made the cut

by Prometheus74 on Apr 21, 2010 1:44 AM EDT up reply actions  

Harts is the crazy uncle that you hope he doesn’t set the cat on fire while he’s visiting.

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by The Dark on Apr 21, 2010 7:49 AM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

Do we really think Giroux would get left out, when he plays on Asham’s line?

by DragonGirl0583 on Apr 21, 2010 12:08 AM EDT up reply actions  

No, their last name is Flyers.

Arron Asham Flyers
Mike Richards Flyers

etc.

My brother is going to get a dog and name him Flyers so he can take him for walks and say “Let’s go, Flyers!” every day.

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by mikefive on Apr 21, 2010 12:08 AM EDT up reply actions  

I asked Dennis Bernstein on Twitter about it:
Me:

@DennisTFP: Are the Flyers’ locker room chasm reports recent? Or are they speculation coming from quotes by Paul Holmgren?
Bernstein:
Inside the room – this week. RT @Mitchman88: @DennisTFP: Are the Flyers’ locker room chasm reports recent? Or are they speculation
Not really sure what to make of that. Any follow question I should ask?

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by Mitchell Green on Apr 21, 2010 12:05 AM EDT up reply actions  

Maybe he means an actual chasm has opened up in the locker room. Lavvy’s fridge kicking so furious he caused structural damage to the Wach?

by ohnickels on Apr 21, 2010 1:16 AM EDT up reply actions  

Anthony San Typo

Jeff Carter also took a puck to the leg, it came from a Chris Pronger slapper and actually ended up in the net for Carter’s second goal, but he didn’t play again afterward.

Carter was on the ice again after his second goal.

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by mikefive on Apr 20, 2010 11:47 PM EDT reply actions  

FWIW

I was not trying to rip on San Fillippo here, just trying to point out that Carter indeed played again.

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by mikefive on Apr 20, 2010 11:54 PM EDT up reply actions  

No offense taken

I checked the sheet and you were right… he did take one more shift for 33 seconds. Then didn’t skate again.

I’ve fixed my blog. Thanks for the heads up.

by Anthony SanFilippo on Apr 21, 2010 12:12 AM EDT up reply actions  

He did have a pretty decent rest afterwards though.

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by ToddtheFox on Apr 21, 2010 12:18 AM EDT up reply actions  

Anthony,
Have you heard anything recently about a rift in the Flyers locker room between young players and some veterans? Dennis Bernstein is saying that stuff has happened this week and that a roster blow up will most likely occur this summer. Is there any truth to these rumors or are they just speculation?

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by Mitchell Green on Apr 21, 2010 12:26 AM EDT up reply actions  

Look, the Flyers’ locker room has not been as tight this season as in years past. There has certainly been a difference of opinion about the dynamics of the locker room between younger and older players. That’s been there all season.

But, right now, whatever differences there may be have been put aside. These guys are all pulling the same rope in unison and as you see, theyre playing their best hockey of the season.

I find it highly doubtful that a rift occurred this week.

I still think there’s going to be a roster shakeup in the summer of some kind, but the further they go, the less of a shakeup there will be. Holmgren has believed in this team all season and seems to be poised to keep it together if it makes a deep run.

If they blow this lead, or are bounced quickly in the next round, I still think wholesale changes are coming.

But f they make the conference finals or further, fewer players may be in danger of being shipped out.

Hope that answers your question

by Anthony SanFilippo on Apr 21, 2010 9:12 AM EDT up reply actions  

I know it wasn’t my question, but thank you, Anthony. Keep up the great work and thanks for coming by.

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by mikefive on Apr 21, 2010 9:27 AM EDT up reply actions  

Was I aware that Anthony had an account on here? I don’t remember knowing that.

Love your work Anthony!

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by Geoff Detweiler on Apr 21, 2010 9:09 AM EDT up reply actions  

Thanks Geoff….

I read you guys every day. It’s the best Flyers fan site out there.

You guys keep us honest, so I figure the best way to give readers what they want is to communicate with them and get a feel for their pulse.

It such a simple premise, I don’t know why my other colleagues don’t do it.

Oh well.

by Anthony SanFilippo on Apr 21, 2010 9:15 AM EDT up reply actions  

I would imagine some people in the media feel threatened by the presence of the blogosphere. It’s an unregulated, almost completely open means for people to provide opinions and information on topics. For someone who looks at it negatively, it can appear dangerous – you can’t verify what a blog says, there are a fair number that tend to blur legitimate sources and hearsay, and the quality varies widely. Of course, the same is also true of the media in some instances, but (most) people don’t take that as a means to discredit all of the media. Just like with any other source, blogs must be looked at over time to see whether they act in a reputable or disreputable manner. Some people just don’t want to take the time or effort to do that. In the long run, those people will have fewer resources to utilize than the media that find ways to interact and cooperate with the blogs that have good reputations and ability.

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by The Dark on Apr 21, 2010 9:48 AM EDT up reply actions  

And what do you know, he even admits that the refs are not the problem for NJ.

by edbro on Apr 21, 2010 12:01 AM EDT up reply actions  

From reading his comments during the game, you would think that they were.

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by Justin F. on Apr 21, 2010 12:02 AM EDT up reply actions  

That is exactly what I’m so surprised about. Scroll up half a page and you’ll see a rec’d comment that quotes John Fischer from the NJ game thread whining about the officiating.

by edbro on Apr 21, 2010 12:04 AM EDT up reply actions  

Go the Invisible Captain!

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by ToddtheFox on Apr 21, 2010 12:04 AM EDT up reply actions  

That “Honorless Captain Mike Richards” BS is really getting to me for some reason. How dare he talk down on my beloved captain.

by halx on Apr 21, 2010 12:05 AM EDT up reply actions  

i agree damn them….and whats all this crap abotu devil x and flyer y, if the game was in ur house ud be bitching about every call, non call dive, or whatsoever so shut the hell up, cya next year

by sjuhawks42 on Apr 21, 2010 10:17 AM EDT up reply actions  

Well, we’ll be seeing them tomorrow actually.

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by Geoff Detweiler on Apr 21, 2010 10:36 AM EDT up reply actions  

Did the Devils just shoot the puck from anywhere ES?

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by ToddtheFox on Apr 21, 2010 12:00 AM EDT reply actions  

Reason I ask, Devils had 31 shots either blocked or missed the net, and thats just at even strength. I can’t wait for Geoff’s numbers tomorrow!

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by ToddtheFox on Apr 21, 2010 12:04 AM EDT up reply actions  

Can someone post that picture of the Carcillos in the crowd? That NEEDS to be my background.

by halx on Apr 21, 2010 12:01 AM EDT reply actions  

CALLED THIS SHIT> IN LOU WE TRUST SUCKS

FLYERS are going to win 4-1. Later losers

by NealCook on Apr 20, 2010 11:37 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs

http://www.inlouwetrust.com/2010/4/20/1431712/2010-stanley-cup-playoffs-1st#comments

left it at 11:37 this morning. Just got back from the game. HOLY SHIT. what a complete game. I log onto in lou we trust to gloat about my correction prediction and mock their lose but they kicked me off the boards. WHOAAAAAAAAA

by NealCook on Apr 21, 2010 12:04 AM EDT reply actions  

While I do admire the fact that you called it right, trolling is not the right way to get it out there

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by ToddtheFox on Apr 21, 2010 12:06 AM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah, dont be a dick. As Philly fans come, I think we have a good name over here, try not to ruin that.

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by JpH89 on Apr 21, 2010 12:08 AM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah I mean our relationship with them and the Blueshirts is pretty dismal, but I don’t think it’s so bad in most other places.

by DragonGirl0583 on Apr 21, 2010 12:12 AM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah, that’s not cool man.

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by Travis Hughes on Apr 21, 2010 12:11 AM EDT up reply actions  

I'm a n00b

Can someone explain to me what trolling is exactly? Is it just going to another blog and pissing off the people in it?

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by KreiderDesigns on Apr 21, 2010 12:15 AM EDT up reply actions  

Thats exactly what trolling is. If you go over there and try to have intelligent discussion, thats not trolling. Its when you go over to rub winning in their face that is trolling.

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by Mitchell Green on Apr 21, 2010 12:16 AM EDT up reply actions  

thanks man

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by KreiderDesigns on Apr 21, 2010 12:18 AM EDT up reply actions  

Trolling on a blog where the moderator is a complete stickler is never a good idea.

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by Justin F. on Apr 21, 2010 12:56 AM EDT up reply actions  

gotta love ud…gracias

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by KreiderDesigns on Apr 21, 2010 12:18 AM EDT up reply actions  

Intelligent discussion : Dear ILWT, I think the Flyers will win tonight because of A(sham),B(oosh), C(arcillo) and most importantly because of (Girou)X.

Trolling: Hai INLWT sukerz, devils suck, marty is fat, kovi is a jerk,u hve n0 fans. Flyers will shuv it up yor ass 4-1. Lata f00ls.

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by ToddtheFox on Apr 21, 2010 12:21 AM EDT up reply actions  

hahaha awesome, i totally get it now! you been workin’ on that for awhile?

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by KreiderDesigns on Apr 21, 2010 12:30 AM EDT up reply actions  

Which way is better? That I’ve been working on it for a while, or that I only just decided to do it?

Because which ever way is better is the way I did it.

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by ToddtheFox on Apr 21, 2010 12:32 AM EDT up reply actions  

Dude, not cool. The Flyers have not even won the series yet. Let’s finish them off (hopefully on Thursday) and then we can celebrate the victories on these boards and if Devils fans want to come and read our celebrations and have it rubbed in, they can, but going over to a blog to rub in a series victory when the series is not even over yet (remember 10 years ago?) will surely get you kicked off of many a blog.

As much as I have laid into John Fischer over here, I can’t argue with him kicking you off.

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by Justin F. on Apr 21, 2010 12:59 AM EDT up reply actions  

My mistake. You were just talking about this game and not the series, right?

a). Nice call, Babe.
b). Still not cool to go over there and post like that

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by Justin F. on Apr 21, 2010 1:13 AM EDT up reply actions  

as to the rubbing it in issue I’d like to say that at TGP not one Braves fan showed up…yet. I never really visit other boards just cause I’m too much of a smart ass not to be tempted to mouth off. But it’s been nice to lick our wounds without having to swat away flies….and oh yeah….LET"S GO FLYERS!!!!!!!!!!!!!

by j reed on Apr 21, 2010 1:22 AM EDT up reply actions  

Wow, that is amazing. I have not been on SB Nation that long, but long enough to know that that is totally something Braves fans would do.

Haha, I’m the same way at times with other boards, though I am proud to say I have gotten better and I have not been banned anywhere yet, and frankly, I am amazed Fischer did not ban me after Game 1.

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by Justin F. on Apr 21, 2010 1:42 AM EDT up reply actions  

I’m just watching the highlights and I’d like to know how the other team feels when Carcillo scores against them? I would guess that it’s a similar feeling that we have when Avery or Ott score against us, but can’t say for sure.

by edbro on Apr 21, 2010 12:26 AM EDT reply actions  

It would definitely be that exact feeling.

I can’t even imagine how pissed off I would be.

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by ToddtheFox on Apr 21, 2010 12:28 AM EDT up reply actions  

Or like when Matt Cooke or Max Talbot score against us.

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by Mitchell Green on Apr 21, 2010 12:28 AM EDT up reply actions  

I don’t think Talbot is on the same level. I respect him a bit for scoring two goals in a Game 7

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by ToddtheFox on Apr 21, 2010 12:29 AM EDT up reply actions  

I just group him into the “punk” category. One of those players that doesn’t really do anything well.

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by Mitchell Green on Apr 21, 2010 12:33 AM EDT up reply actions  

I was playing NHL10 the day after Carbomb scored that beaut of a goal against the Maple Leafs. I found out my opponent was a Leafs fan while talking to him on mic and he goes “Last night I had to watch that fucker Dan Carcillo skate through my fucking team and score then act like a goddamned idiot, damn piece of crap mother fucker” or something like that…i didn’t stop laughing for a couple minutes.

I’d imagine it’s something like that only more angry.

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by KreiderDesigns on Apr 21, 2010 12:32 AM EDT up reply actions  

Perfection

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by ToddtheFox on Apr 21, 2010 12:33 AM EDT up reply actions  

Did he know you’re a Flyers fan?

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by Travis Hughes on Apr 21, 2010 12:34 AM EDT up reply actions  

I clued him in after the tirade. He just goes…well you got us last night.

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by KreiderDesigns on Apr 21, 2010 7:46 AM EDT up reply actions  

Rec'd

for Awesomeness! I enjoy all of those too!

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by Mitchell Green on Apr 21, 2010 12:35 AM EDT up reply actions  

I’m actually surprised Boosh isn’t higher.

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by Ben Rothenberg on Apr 21, 2010 12:43 AM EDT up reply actions  

So was I, at first. But it makes since Rinne & Anderson are standing on their heads right now. Rask has been great. Ryan Miller is Ryan Miller. The only one that surprises me is Niemi.

by The DTrain on Apr 21, 2010 11:54 AM EDT up reply actions  

- Boucher and Pekka Rinne are the only goalies with a GAA less than 2
- Dan Carcillo, sniper: dude has a 40% goal/shot percentage, tied with Kane and Erat
- Mike Richards has the same number of goals and assists as Kovalchuk, with fewer PIM and shots

- Block party: Pronger, Timonen, Carle, Coburn, and Krajicek have combined for 44 blocked shots
- That’s a big Energizer bunny: Chris Pronger’s leading the league in ATOI, with 29:07. Dan Boyle is second, at 28:16.
- Elite production: Carcillo’s PROD is 11:51. Ovechkin? 13:19.

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by The Dark on Apr 21, 2010 8:05 AM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

I’ve been a huge Chris Pronger fan for 15 years now and I knew that as soon as the playoffs started he’d be amazing. And I think my eyes match the numbers. He always seems to be making a smart play.

But Carcillo?! Every playoffs run includes a guy you don’t expect being awesome. Is Carcillo the new Andy Delmore?

by The DTrain on Apr 21, 2010 11:55 AM EDT up reply actions  

Lets go Avs

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by JpH89 on Apr 21, 2010 12:44 AM EDT reply actions  

Geez the SJ/COL game is a snooze fest. Craig Anderson though is amazing.

by edbro on Apr 21, 2010 12:47 AM EDT reply actions  

~1500 comments

!

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by ToddtheFox on Apr 21, 2010 12:52 AM EDT reply actions  

we didnt f**k around tonight

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by JpH89 on Apr 21, 2010 12:54 AM EDT up reply actions  

Sharks Win

Pavelski got the game-winning goal in overtime after the rest of the Sharks (most notably Dany Heatley) did everything in their power to try to lose that game.

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by Justin F. on Apr 21, 2010 1:07 AM EDT reply actions  

Just got back from the game. Totally worth the 2 hour drive. The wachovia center was fucking rocking tonight and I doubt I’ll have a voice tomorrow.

Bleed orange, bitches.

by Angrycoder on Apr 21, 2010 1:08 AM EDT reply actions  

a game to remember… hells yeah

by fitzy first on Apr 21, 2010 1:45 AM EDT reply actions  

Interesting perspective

Going into each game I get pumped but in the back of my mind I remember our painful ,frustrating season. Then we come out with a win. It’s very interesting to be beating the Devils like this- I know we had them in the regular season -still. As a Flyers fan you want to say that’s its over and the Devils suck and such but really we are luck to even be here.
I call it the sadomasochistic season of 2010. Ouch! Ahhhh Ouch ahhhh Ouch ahhhh.
If /When we dispatch of the Devils, do we then get overconfident for the next series. Probably not. But I suppose we can enjoy this interesting ride.

by Gonzotatcics on Apr 21, 2010 7:29 AM EDT reply actions  

It seems that one of the major plot lines in this series is that the Devils start off quick but the Flyers take control of play in the second and third periods. It could be that the Flyers are better conditioned. That’s one of the things Laviolette worked on when he took over. What does this series (or this season) look like if Stevens is still coaching?

by thasmin on Apr 21, 2010 8:28 AM EDT reply actions  

If they took this many penalties? They’d have absolutely nothing left at the end, that I can say for sure. They are definitely in better skating shape. But I don’t know about much else besides that; a lot of other things are so different.

by DragonGirl0583 on Apr 21, 2010 8:58 AM EDT up reply actions  

Congrats on the win. Take the Devils down

by jevans on Apr 21, 2010 9:05 AM EDT reply actions  

I admit: I was wrong. The Flyers have impressed even me this series.

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by Geoff Detweiler on Apr 21, 2010 9:15 AM EDT reply actions  

Since we are admitting we are wrong… I was wrong with on my bashing Boucher he totally turned it around. It seems like this team was just killing time waiting for the playoffs to come around and then flipped the switch. They couldn’t play two good games in a row after the olympics now they have played really solid in all phases of the game, defense, offensive, special teams, and goaltending this entire series.

by chrislanci on Apr 21, 2010 9:49 AM EDT up reply actions  

So what’s this I hear about Carter re-braking his foot? Rumor or is it true?

by LegionofDoom on Apr 21, 2010 9:19 AM EDT reply actions  

Tim Panotch on WIP just a few minutes ago said not a direct quote but he thought Carter took that Pronger shot higher up in the thigh or quad and that is what he seemed to be favoring in the locker room. He expects Carter to play and is doubtful that Gagne will play Thursday.

So I would say no to re-braking the foot.

In my opinion
Getting a broken toe into a skate can be really rough he would probably need more time to let the pain and swelling go down. Leino in Gagne out.

by chrislanci on Apr 21, 2010 9:43 AM EDT up reply actions  

Cool. That’s good to hear for Carter. But bad news for Gagne. :(

by LegionofDoom on Apr 21, 2010 9:56 AM EDT up reply actions  

Penalty Comparison

Here goes the powerplay opportunities for the rest games last night.

Phoenix – 6
Detroit – 3

Pittsburgh – 7
Ottawa – 5

Chicago – 4
Nashville – 5

Colorado – 2
San Jose – 2

and then

Philadelphia – 8
New Jersey – 8

Not sure what that means but there was 16 powerplays in the Flyers game the next closest game was 12 in Pittsburg Ottawa. All I know PECO got their most out of their advertising dollars last night.

by chrislanci on Apr 21, 2010 10:00 AM EDT reply actions  

And it’s a good thing too because I was thinking about becoming Amish until I saw all those PECO ads. The PECO-Amish battle is the new Coke-Pepsi…

by Will21 on Apr 21, 2010 10:15 AM EDT up reply actions  

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