Hope for a contingency plan: Flyers-Bruins Game 1 could be interrupted by NBC's Kentucky Derby coverage
Perhaps you remember the 2007 Stanley Cup Playoffs. The Ottawa Senators were taking on the Buffalo Sabres in the Eastern Conference Finals on Saturday, May 29 of that year, the same day as the Preakness Stakes. The game went to overtime, at which point NBC execs decided to dump the broadcast to show an hour-plus of pre-horse race coverage.
Not the actual race, which lasts about, what, three minutes? No, pre-race coverage. Back when William Houston had a job with The Globe & Mail, he covered the story:
NBC pulled the plug on coverage of the overtime period between the Ottawa Senators-Buffalo Sabres on Saturday, denying viewers in most of the United States the conclusion the Eastern Conference final's Game 5.
A source close to the National Hockey League Saturday called the decision to prematurely end the telecast "disappointing," but said the network's contract with the league allowed it to pull out after three hours.
NBC dropped the overtime period, which decided the series and sent the Senators to the Stanley Cup final, because it didn't want the hockey telecast running into its scheduled 90-minute coverage of the Preakness Stakes starting at 5 p.m. EDT.
They passed the broadcast over to Versus for the overtime period, so it's not like the game was just dropped from television altogether. But there are two problems: one, it's a cardinal sin in sports broadcasting to drop a live event before it's over, and two, if you missed a quick "switch over to Versus" message at the end of the third period, you likely missed the end of the game.
A year ago, the Penguins and Capitals were facing off as the lead-in to the Derby. NBC controlled things as they usually do, forcing the NHL to bump the game up to an early afternoon start to accommodate their Derby coverage. It was certainly a step forward when the network released a contingency plan, saying that a potential first overtime would be covered on NBC and that any other overtime periods would be covered on Versus.
Luckily, it never came to that. Contingency or not, it's unacceptable.
As of now, it seems that NBC hasn't released a similar plan for Game 1 between the Flyers and Bruins on Friday. To me, though, this whole thing comes down to one point.
The NHL is finally in the position where they have some leverage in negotiations with television rights holders, as the league is finally an attractive property for these rights holders to buy. So, in a nutshell, why the hell should we have to deal with this crap? I understand the deal with NBC was re-upped about a year ago when maybe things weren't as shiny as they are now, and I also completely understand that the money is with the Derby and not hockey.
But it's an absolute joke that we even have to worry about our games being shuttled off from network to network because of some other event. If NBC wants to broadcast our games and bump them up to 12:30 in the afternoon and control the schedule like they routinely do, the league should be guaranteed complete, un-interrupted coverage of the game. If it's Derby day and there might be a conflict, they can put the game on Versus in its entirety at a normal evening hour.
The NHL is finally in the position to stand up to these networks a bit and they better start. Contingency or not.
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I will voice my disagreement with this statement
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by Grp_Cpt_Lionel_Mandrake on Apr 29, 2010 4:57 PM EDT up reply actions
May I ask why?
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by Travis Hughes on Apr 29, 2010 5:17 PM EDT up reply actions
Wasnt it like 10 years or 12 years ago or so when hockey was actually getting a better tv rating then the nba? ESPN was a big reason why.
I’m guessing it does in Toronto. Could be wrong.
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I’m 100 percent sure it does in Toronto, and I don’t need to look that up.
by orangeandblack20 on Apr 29, 2010 7:37 PM EDT up reply actions
There was a fanshot last week with links to local TV ratings in US markets, if you didn’t see it. That showed that there are definitely places where it does, this year it was Philly, DC, Minneapolis, Chicago, and Detroit (plus the Devils would beat the Nets if you separated the North Jersey market from the NYC one).
by DragonGirl0583 on Apr 29, 2010 7:51 PM EDT up reply actions
No, I’m just irritated that hockey gets no respect. ABC would never punt the NBA away for another event.
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by Travis Hughes on Apr 29, 2010 5:02 PM EDT up reply actions
Well… that’s a radical example, of course
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by Travis Hughes on Apr 29, 2010 5:08 PM EDT up reply actions
I only posted because you so squarely walked right into it.
I agree the NBA would never get bumped for pre-race coverage of the Derby. But the NBA also doesn’t have the possibility of overrunning its time slot by hours with 17 minute blocks of no action and ~30 minute blocks of no commercials.
I can’t hate NBC for this.
That’s very true. I can’t really hate NBC for it either — I mean, it’s easy to see where they’re coming from here. They have a bunch of advertisers lined up in that hour leading into the Derby. It makes total sense.
I just want the NHL to use the leverage they have to get a more favorable situation. Like I said, if NBC can’t commit because they have Derby obligations, put the game on Versus at 7 PM. I’m just sick of the networks running the sport.
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by Travis Hughes on Apr 29, 2010 5:17 PM EDT up reply actions
It happens with baseball, too, and that’s hardly a fringe sport. See World Series 2008.
"Tortorella’s got it all wrong ... Gaborik shouldn’t be messing with our skilled player." -Peter Luuko
They wouldn’t cut away from a game, though.
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by Travis Hughes on Apr 29, 2010 5:24 PM EDT up reply actions
Personally though I’ve never been a fan of daytime playoff games, I just think they should all be at night, its not exactly what a lot of ppl want to be doing on a saturday afternoon sitting and watching tv they want to be able to do things and then come home and watch a sporting event, thats just my opinion because thats what I like to do come home and relax to a good game.
Just my opinion, but I think the occasional daytime game is necessary for the kids though. As an adult, I wouldn’t want them all to be early, but I know I didn’t get to stay up late every night for every game when I was a little kid. Same with Fox starting WS games at 8pm ET, some kids can’t stay up that late every night all the way through the playoffs. I’m not opposed to there being at least a few games little kids can see the end of, since I started watching hockey when I was really young.
by DragonGirl0583 on Apr 29, 2010 7:31 PM EDT up reply actions
I agree with that. But the thing is, I think this game is on NBC on Saturday because the NHL wants it there. Maybe I’m wrong, but I believe that NBC wouldn’t mind not having a hockey game this Saturday, but that the NHL really wants it on NBC instead of versus.
Not to mention Versus already has the Blackhawks game that night, and the NHL doesn’t want to double-schedule any of the games so that everyone can see all of them.
Getting offtopic, why do you want hockey to get more respect? It’s an awesome game with a great fanbase and more fans means more expensive tickets and more money for other people. I like being able to talk intelligently when I meet someone who likes hockey rather than conversing to the lowest common denominator like with the NFL.
I’m with you. I actually like the fact that’s it’s a fringe sport. We are a select community—sort of like Jeep drivers. When we see each other, we nod in solidarity.
"Tortorella’s got it all wrong ... Gaborik shouldn’t be messing with our skilled player." -Peter Luuko
jeep drivers are NOT a select community.
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I meant in the sense that they think they are—so they honk at each other. In this case, hockey fans ARE a select community. I was making a snarky analogy; sorry.
"Tortorella’s got it all wrong ... Gaborik shouldn’t be messing with our skilled player." -Peter Luuko
my bad. didn’t catch the snark and countered with snark. comments withdrawn.
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That’s a really strong point. I’m not saying I want hockey to be as popular as the NFL, but I don’t think it ever will be. It’s a game for smart people. It’s complicated as all hell to understand even the basic rules of it, moves so fast, etc., so I don’t think it’ll ever become as popular as football or baseball or whatever.
But it’s good for all of us and for the future of the league if they have the respect and the ratings and the strong fanbase that bring in advertising dollars, sponsors, etc. I think hockey’s always going to be a niche sport, but that doesn’t mean we have to be cannon fodder by the rest of the sports world.
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by Travis Hughes on Apr 29, 2010 5:15 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
A positive take on hockey growth
More interest in hockey, more people will want to play. The more people playing, means more hockey programs will develop around the country. The more programs develop, it’s possible that the talent pool teams have to choose from will only get bigger.
Yeah, I understand the money part, but it boggles my mind why hockey fans are so xenophobic. Sure, it will probably always be niche, but it’s to what extent – because right now it’s criminally underrated in the mainstream and that’s because the NHL is marketed to a consumer base that already buys the product. (which, from a marketing standpoint, isn’t the smartest thing)
What NBC should do is develop picture in picture for their broadcast. Then they could have the derby show on with the Flyers game in OT, in the small picture down to the right.
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by HockeyOutsiders on Apr 29, 2010 5:26 PM EDT reply actions
If I had to watch the Flyers in Double OT in the playoffs in a tiny corner in PIP, I’d break the TV, burn down NBC and listen to 610
by orangeandblack20 on Apr 29, 2010 7:40 PM EDT up reply actions
hockey gets preemped for an hour of inbred pompous jerks in awful hats drooling over inbred steroid fueled horses. no thanks. the only excitement i actually get from the derby is watching the handlers get worked when they try to drive the horses into their chutes. that and the occasional jockey trampling (always good times)
you want my attention? show the doings in the infield. that’s good tv, right there.
i really hate horse racing.
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Horse racing is pretty fun. And I dont blame NBC for putting on the Kentucky Derby over a a hockey game. The KD is the 2nd most watched single sporting event of the year(the super bowl is #1)
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There are races before that, it is like an 11 race event. And tens of millions of dollars changes hands…
by You don't have to be sweet, to be good on Apr 29, 2010 9:20 PM EDT up reply actions
Yeah, I agree, we can’t really expect them not to show the derby, but they really should just put the game somewhere else. It’s not like we can trust their ability to schedule around live events; just look at how much of a disaster it is when NBC over-books primetime during the Olympics. I just don’t want game 1 getting that same treatment.
by DragonGirl0583 on Apr 29, 2010 9:26 PM EDT up reply actions
Comcast
They should just leave it where it belongs and thats on Comcast. If they think so little of it to cut it off at any time then why bother at all. I feel like I’m in a custody battle “Give me back my baby”.
by darkside3744 on Apr 29, 2010 10:00 PM EDT up reply actions
all valid points, but i think my focus here is if you are going to show hockey, show hockey. if you are going to show horse racing, show horse racing. don’t try to conflict the two.
let versus pick up game 1, and nbc can grab some sunday games.
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I can’t be reasonable about this cause its horses HORSES. Anybody thats getting ramped up about pre game horse racing needs to be slapped. This is playoff hockey we’re talking about.
from my recollection, in the past two years ‘NBC 29’ in central Virginia has dropped at least 5 afternoon Flyers games. One time for a local and very extremely lame telethon (cried and laughed at the same time) and all other occasions for ACC basketball…
well, you are in a different market. Thats more of an issue with your local NBC, then it is with national NBC.
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pretty big issue if youre a flyers fan in va. most regional state areas have a local “nbc” that pick up the national feed and add their local commercials and news, Only in ‘out of market areas’ (where the antenna cant pick it up) directv can air the national new york and LA feed (for an extra price though). maybe comcast has a deal where you can either watch the new york national or local.
by fitzy first on Apr 30, 2010 11:31 AM EDT up reply actions

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