Oh thank God: Flyers hold on to take two points vs Detroit
by Travis Hughes on Apr 4, 2010 5:02 PM EDT
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It was tense. It was stressful. It was... playoff hockey, basically.
Needing a win desperately, the Flyers flew out of the gate and Dan Carcillo, fresh off of his two game suspension, scored on the first shot of the game. The Flyers would jump out to a 2-0 lead before a few unlucky goals got Detroit back into the game by the end of the period.
But the orange and black didn't give up, continuing to assert themselves like a playoff team should. They'd get the two goal lead back by the end of the second period, but the Wings wouldn't go away, scoring early in the third to get within one. Detroit spent most of the third period in the Flyers end, but with a little luck, some solid defense and solid goaltending from Brian Boucher, the good guys were able to hold on for the win.
They needed a big performance against a really, really strong opponent who hadn't lost in regulation in 12 games. Everybody chipped in and got the job done. One down, three to go, right?
After the jump, questions with answers and the comment of the day.
Questions with Answers
- Chris Osgood hasn't played in two months. Does this create a weakness the Flyers can take advantage of? Osgood looked terrible for most of the game, although he did look strong down the stretch of the game. Still, at least two goals were a direct result of him just not playing well.
- How does Ville Leino play against the team that threw him away? Leino actually had a pretty physical game, by my count. He banged bodies, and he had a pretty typical "good Ville" style game.
- Can the Flyers show the same intensity all game today as they did in the second half against MTL -- really, the last five periods dating back to the NYI game? Yes, and it lasted the entire game, even as Detroit took the pressure to them in the third.
- Do the Flyers control their playoff destiny by the end of the game today? Yes they do.
Comment of the Day
I’m hungry but I refuse to eat until this game is over.
>> kmblue
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Of course this happens. The Flyers can’t beat the Islanders but get it done against the Red Wings.
I originally had tickets for this game but had to get rid of them when they moved the game up to 12:30.
Much like Jesus on the original Easter, the Flyers’ playoff hopes have risen from the dead, at least for now.
Do you see what happens when you find a stranger in the Alps?
No way, give me Brodeur and the Devils I’m sick of seeing Crosby year after in the playoffs, bad enough we have to play the whine ass 6 times a season as it is.
I understand why people want to play the Penguins as nothing in this world would be sweeter than us being the team to knock the Penguins out of the playoffs, but I agree that we have a hell of a much better chance of advancing if we play the Devils, assuming we make the playoffs and don’t choke. Honestly, I see pros and cons to playing all 4 of teams we can possibly, should be make the post-season.
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Exactly I’d love to knock them out too but basically I think the chances against the Devils are better not to mention we have dominated them this season. It would also give Boucher a chance to avenge that loss to the Devils in the Eastern Conference Finals as a rookie. I still remember that awesome save against Elias with the glove.
For me it was one of the best saves I have ever seen from a Flyers goalie.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OiIZDPM0RCY
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by KreiderDesigns on Apr 4, 2010 7:54 PM EDT up reply actions
I think we should play the Capitals. At least RJ Umberger doesn’t think it would be that big of a deal.
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by M from Pdaddy on Apr 4, 2010 9:19 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
The big news is that, finally, the Flyers are playing a neutral zone trap, as they should’ve been doing since October.
Get the lead with a high pressure 2 man forecheck and then smother the opponent with good team defense and counter attack. The system makes sense to me just need to get the lead and something that we all know they had trouble doing since the Olympic break.
No, they abandoned it from the opening faceoff.
And, no, when you get the lead is when you clog the neutral zone, you don’t open up the game and give up odd man rushes when you are winning. That’s the idiotry they’ve been playing since December which finally came to an end.
They scored 17 seconds into the game took the lead and abandoned the high pressure 2 man forecheck. You saying in that 17 seconds when they didn’t have the lead the you could tell they were playing a neutral zone trap?
And, no, when you get the lead is when you clog the neutral zone, you don’t open up the game and give up odd man rushes when you are winning.
I think you either assumed I was arguing with you or just mis-read what I wrote but that is exactly what I am saying. You play aggressive to get the lead then clog the neutral and counter attack off of turnovers.
You saying in that 17 seconds when they didn’t have the lead the you could tell they were playing a neutral zone trap?
Yes, because that goal came as a result of Carcillo and Lapeierre trapping in the neutral zone, creating a turnover and sending Carcillo in on net.
It happened because Detroit was caught off guard by the Flyers coming out playing the trap.
Yes, because that goal came as a result of Carcillo and Lapeierre trapping in the neutral zone, creating a turnover and sending Carcillo in on net.
The NHL’s video picks the play up with Detroit carrying the puck out of their own end at the hash marks. If there’s video proving that the Flyers could have gone in with an aggressive forecheck but didn’t, then you’d be correct. But from the video, all you see is that the Red Wings were already leaving the zone. Just because the Flyers are in the neutral zone while the puck is being carried past the hash marks does not prove there’s a neutral zone trap.
Now, if there’s video of the Flyers dumping the puck in and staying in the neutral zone, fine. But the official game highlights do not prove that the team started out playing a trap.
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by Geoff Detweiler on Apr 5, 2010 12:29 PM EDT up reply actions
Just watched the game replay on NHLNetwork.
The opening faceoff went all the way behind the Detroit net.
Detroit’s dman took possession there, the Flyers never forechecked, sat in the neutral zone, and forced the turnover.
All three Flyers’ forwards were standing outside the blue line, facing the Dmen coming, and waiting for them. Its clearly shown in the replays NBC aired immediately after the goal.
Okay then at the start of the 3rd Period on the Giroux goal Krijeck skated the puck deep into the offensive zone the through the puck in on net from the corner. Giroux then moved in from the point and got the goal of the turnover. At one point one that goal 4 Flyers were below or at the dots. Also Kimmo jumped up on a 4 on 2 rush to score the 2nd goal. Those plays are not your hallmark plays of the neutral zone trap.
Also I would suspect that if it was so obvious the team totally changed their game plan someone else would noticed and mentioned it.
The opening faceoff went all the way behind the Detroit net.
Detroit’s dman took possession there, the Flyers never forechecked, sat in the neutral zone, and forced the turnover.
It is not smart to try to forecheck of a faceoff loss to the corner. The key to a successful forecheck is speed through the neutral zone. After the faceoff everyone is standing still and not moving. Good luck establishing a forecheck from that position. Standing outside the redline and not moving.
The faceoff went behind the Detroit net. YES
The Flyers are standing still at the faceoff circle. YES
Standing still = not moving. YES
Not moving = No Speed YES
To establish a good forecheck you have to have speed to get to the puck before or right after the opponent. YES
Should you forecheck aggressively when a neutral face-off goes behind the opposition’s net and the defender has the puck before you can even get to the blue line. NO
alright so think about this, yes we all hate pittsburgh and would love to beat them, but drawing jersey is a great fist round match and buffalo wouldnt be to bad either. Not only have we dominated NJ all season but its gives us a chance not to rely too heavily on Boucher. Bottom line if we get jersey we have a better chance of advancing and a better chance of seeing leighton back by the second round. Boucher can take his seat right back on the bench when Leights comes back as far as im concerned IMO though
http://www.ontheforecheck.com/2010/4/4/1404736/flyers-red-wings-discussion-thread#comments
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