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Monday Morning Fly By: Recapping a Win, Prospect News (as always), and Cap News

Today's open discussion thread, complete with your daily dose of Philadelphia Flyers news and notes...

  • Last night's NHL scores... Flyers 4 - Red Wings 3; CHI 4 - CGY 1; COL 5 - SJ 4 (OT); VAN 4 - MIN 3 (OT)
  • Recapping yesterday's win: [BSH] [Winging It In Motown] [NHL.com] [Daily News] [Inquirer] [CSNPhilly] [DelcoTimes]
  • Photos from yesterday: [BSH]
  • You've no doubt heard that some terrible tabloid reporter found two NHL GM's who hate Chris Pronger. [BSH]
  • Joacim Eriksson stopped 29 of 30 shots in a 2-1 OT win. [euroflyers] Highlights: [euroflyers]
  • He followed that up by stopping 29 of 31 shots in a 3-2 win. [euroflyers] Highlights: [euroflyers]
  • Jacob De Serres stopped 35 of 40 shots as Brandon went up 1-0 in their second round series.  He did not start the second game, which Brandon also won.  [Luber's Lounge]
  • In the same link above, Adam Morrison is out of the lineup due to a suspected concussion.
  • Where it all went wrong for the Phantoms: [PostStar]
  • Highlights from Andrei Popov's recent game. [euroflyers]
  • A little old, but what does Montreal think about trading Carey Price? [Habs Eyes On The Prize]
  • Talking about goalies, Sergei Bobrovsky is on the Flyers' watch list.  Here are his top 5 saves: [euroflyers] [euroflyers]
  • Apparently the Flyers have made an offer to Braydon Coburn.  He was unaware of it. [TSN]
  • The Hockey News ranked the Flyers' system dead last after being 10th last year. [Daily News]
  • A little old, but an interesting look at icing leaders, both for and against. [Behind The Net]
  • You've probably seen this by now, but an Islanders fan won a car with those ridiculous shoot a puck through a hole as big as a puck gimmicks. [Puck Daddy]
  • A report that the salary cap will increase $900,000 for next season. [Jeff Marek]
  • Lastly, former SBN head and current Maple Leafs beat reporter James Mirtle calculates that Blair Betts is the NHL's top defensive forward.  Everyone outside of Philadelphia is surprised. [James Mirtle]

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hey

was there a comment of the day from the game thread yesterday?

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by psudrozz on Apr 5, 2010 10:42 AM EDT reply actions  

Apparently Travis skipped over that. So here’s the Batcall to Travis:

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by Geoff Detweiler on Apr 5, 2010 11:01 AM EDT up reply actions  

Hahaha, fixed.

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by Travis Hughes on Apr 5, 2010 11:47 AM EDT up reply actions  

outstanding choice.

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by psudrozz on Apr 5, 2010 12:05 PM EDT up reply actions  

Wooooooooooo salary cap is going up. All the Flyers woes will be solved with that extra 900k.

by tmurder on Apr 5, 2010 10:47 AM EDT reply actions  

two years too late for that but that is going to help the Bettman’s favorites CHI and WSH keep their squads together for another year

by chrislanci on Apr 5, 2010 10:55 AM EDT up reply actions  

I don’t know but Bettman hasn’t been very impressive, still waiting for him to realize that hockey will be more popular if he can find more then versus to carry there games. The NHL needs to be back on ESPN and ESPN2 so more fans can watch and not have to pay to view every game.

by ryanitus on Apr 6, 2010 2:43 AM EDT up reply actions  

Believe it or not, it will actually help. At the very least, that means Darroll Powe can be resigned without reducing the estimated $8 mil available from a month ago. At best, the Flyers could resign Carcillo with that money. Then, obviously, Parent, Backlund, or others could be resigned.

It basically allows the Flyers to fill a roster spot without reducing the estimated $8 million in space they have. That’s pretty huge, considering they only need to fill 2 D slots and 2 forward slots before going to get a goalie.

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by Geoff Detweiler on Apr 5, 2010 11:03 AM EDT up reply actions  

I see it as a negative because it allows them to fill a roster spot without any shuffling. It allows them to stick with the status quo. It doesnt force them to move a big contract out to find some space to ice a full team.

by tmurder on Apr 5, 2010 12:41 PM EDT up reply actions  

Can we be reasonably confident that there will be shuffling regardless? All indications are that the Flyers first move (after, maybe, extending Carcillo) is to fill the crease. Everything else is effected by that.

by Snevik on Apr 5, 2010 12:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

Not to be dirty, or off topic here but… Extend Carcillo then fill the crease?

by pintium02 on Apr 5, 2010 6:38 PM EDT up reply actions  

This isn’t what allows them to stick with the status quo. The team has 15 out of 18 (11 forwards, 5 defensemen) skaters signed for next year. Just because they now have an additional $900k doesn’t mean they now don’t have to make any moves.

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by Geoff Detweiler on Apr 5, 2010 1:22 PM EDT up reply actions  

I think it makes it easy to just resign who they have without having to say no to any modest raises that a player proposes. I doesnt force them to choose either Coburn or Parent. It doesnt force them to make Asham or Powe walk. It means they can just slide another modest goalie and say “We’re going to give this team a full year with Lavvy to gel.” Id have rather seen the cap drop and force the Flyers to get rid of a long contract. Pretty Much either way I see this team a stuck unless it makes a surprising unlikely trade, ie moving Briere without conceding a high draft to make it more palatable for the other team.

by tmurder on Apr 5, 2010 1:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

I just think you’re completely overvaluing $900,000. That’s less money than Michael-Lee Teslak’s cap hit.

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by Geoff Detweiler on Apr 5, 2010 2:25 PM EDT up reply actions  

anything helps but signing Powe should be the last thing this teams needs we have good set of checkers / energy / role players in Lappy, Betts, Carcillo we need offensive help and Powe and Asham aren’t offensive guys

I understand it was an example but if this team brings back Powe my head might explode. I like the guy and all but he is obsolete on this team.

by chrislanci on Apr 5, 2010 4:37 PM EDT up reply actions  

Just an example.

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by Geoff Detweiler on Apr 5, 2010 4:48 PM EDT up reply actions  

Then Michael-Lee Teslak is way overvalued. Arron Asham is 600k and Betts is 550k if im not mistaken

by tmurder on Apr 5, 2010 11:54 PM EDT up reply actions  

My overall point is that a 900k increase doesnt give the Flyers enough room to add a second line forward or quality 3-4 defender. Also seeing as its not a signifcant decrease it doesnt force the Flyers to move anyone. Unless this team magically pulls it together and wins a few playoff rounds, I want change, big change in personnel. this team is obviously underperforming. I want to see a veteran shake up. I think Carter needs to stay he cant be the guy traded for a goalie. I am not disappointed in JVR and Giroux for slumping they are young and need time to develop, however Hartnell and Briere’s slumps are inexcusable. This increase in the salary cap doesnt force the Flyers to move either which leads me to believe neither will be moved because they have NTCs and considering this season’s performance their deals are both too bloated to move, and I dont like that. Aside from getting a good goalie the Flyers need more consistency from the veteran offensive players neither Briere nor Hartnell has provided that this year. I believe trading one of if not both will hopefully reinforce that within the rest of the team and send a message of accountability to the team from the front office.

by tmurder on Apr 6, 2010 12:10 AM EDT up reply actions  

What exactly does Mirtle mean by, “I don’t know how you do that on the Flyers.”?

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by Psy09 on Apr 5, 2010 10:52 AM EDT reply actions  

Possible explanations: One, he could mean they aren’t very good – tied for 19th in points percentage. Two, he could mean they aren’t very good defensively – 16th in ga/g. Three, he could mean they aren’t very good at 5-on-5 – tied for 16th in 5-on-5 goals ratio. Or four, they aren’t very good on the PK – 13th in PK%.

But I’m guessing it’s just a dig against the Flyers and their very underwhelming season.

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by Geoff Detweiler on Apr 5, 2010 11:07 AM EDT up reply actions  

To add to Geoff’s theories: it’s also a possibility that he meant that it’s unexpected for Betts to be statistically the best with him playing on a team with Richards who was the 2nd place finisher for the Selke last year; or another possibility would be surprise that any player could be statistically the best defensive forward in the league while playing on a team with such inconsistent defensive play. I’m hoping that he’ll post the list soon and there might be some analysis to explain his position.

by DragonGirl0583 on Apr 5, 2010 11:23 AM EDT up reply actions  

Also, I’m assuming his reasoning is something along the lines of “I didn’t think it’d be possible to play statistically great defense in front of that goaltending situation.”

by Snevik on Apr 5, 2010 11:34 AM EDT up reply actions  

Snevik wins.

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by James Mirtle on Apr 5, 2010 8:10 PM EDT up reply actions  

Right to the source, look at that. A+++ for service.

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by Travis Hughes on Apr 5, 2010 8:14 PM EDT up reply actions  

Lets hope we win out

by ryantz on Apr 5, 2010 11:35 AM EDT reply actions  

Only if its all the way through the playoffs en route to a magical Stanley cup.

by tmurder on Apr 5, 2010 1:44 PM EDT up reply actions  

19 straight wins!

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by Travis Hughes on Apr 5, 2010 1:53 PM EDT up reply actions  

I think you mean 20.

by MarioD on Apr 5, 2010 1:57 PM EDT up reply actions  

I was counting from here on out, but yes… it would be 20 total.

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by Travis Hughes on Apr 5, 2010 2:18 PM EDT up reply actions  

let me ask this

we have played very hard now in the past, oh 3 games or so…I mean really giving it our all and playing the way we should have all year. Minus the loss to Montreal, which Halak won it for them, we have been playing impressive enough for being “the NHL’s most disappointing team” or whatever yahoo.com has called the Flyers this week.

If we can keep THIS RECENT pace up, do we A.) have a shot at the playoffs B.) have a shot at going possibly deeper than first round in the playoffs?

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by PhillyPhan85 on Apr 5, 2010 2:03 PM EDT reply actions  

Three games ago was the Islanders game where they didn’t show up.

And two games is not enough to change the perception of this team.

by MarioD on Apr 5, 2010 2:17 PM EDT up reply actions  

I’m not even sure this requires a change in perception. This is the same question as always: given that this is a streaky team, do you think they’ll streak at the right time, and—even if they do—will that be enough to do damage against good teams?

I know you think they can’t sustain it, but I’m interested where you’d rate this team when they play hockey (well and/or at all).

by Snevik on Apr 5, 2010 2:28 PM EDT up reply actions  

hey with the salary cap increase would we be able to pick up someone like Volchenkov..or I guess our goalie woes are gonna take up the extra funds?

by j reed on Apr 5, 2010 6:55 PM EDT reply actions  

Worst system in the NHL + no first or second round picks = were FUBAR

So logically, the best solution is to just throw money at the problem and hope it fixes itself…

by philiafan14364 on Apr 5, 2010 8:32 PM EDT reply actions  

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