Game 81, Preview and Game Thread: Clinching Time on Broadway, Philadelphia Flyers at New York Rangers
by Travis Hughes on Apr 9, 2010 5:35 PM EDT
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PrintPhiladelphia Flyers at New York Rangers, Apr 9, 2010 7:00 PM EDT
#8 Philadelphia Flyers (40-34-6, 86 pts) at #9 New York Rangers (37-33-10, 84 pts)
Madison Square Garden - 7:00 PM ET - New York, NY
TV: Comcast Network HD (again), Versus HD (in some areas), MSG Plus HD, RDS HD
Radio: 94.1 FM WYSP, XM 204, Sirius 208
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The Flyers couldn't get any help this week from the Toronto Maple Leafs, who lost to the New York Rangers on Wednesday night. A Rangers loss that night would've put the Flyers in the postseason, but the hockey Gods decided that they wanted this weekend's home and home to hold some epic meaning.
And that's where we are tonight. The Flyers are in the playoffs with a win, and if they can do it in regulation, they'll end the Rangers season. It's do or die for one team, and predator versus prey for the other.
Let's be honest here. The Flyers are a better team than the Rangers. We know this and I think Rangers fans do, too. The Flyers clearly are better on offense, even when they aren't scoring like they can. They have a much more solid defense and they're better on special teams, too. The only edge the Rangers has is the obvious one in goal, but if Brian Boucher is playing with the confidence he's played with the last few games, and the defense is it's strong self in front of him, the Lundqvist advantage isn't going to matter.
In a game like this, though, the numbers don't matter. It's a playoff game, and when it gets to this point -- when everything is on the line -- it only matters who plays the hardest. The team that leaves everything on the ice, the team that -- yes, it sounds cliche -- wants it more, and the team that plays like a cohesive unit is going to win the game.
For the Flyers to win in New York tonight, they'll need all the emotion they can get. They have the boost from the return of Jeff Carter, who by all evidence (except Peter Laviolette being coy) is playing tonight. The orange and black need to control the play from the opening puck drop to the final whistle. If they do that, then by the time that whistle blows, the Rangers will have nothing left to play for, and the Flyers will be headed to the postseason.
After the jump, lineups, questions to answer and our in-game discussion.
Flyers Line Combinations
van Riemsdyk – Richards – Giroux
Gagne – Briere – Carcillo
Hartnell – Carter – Asham
Powe – Laperriere – Betts
Pronger - Carle
Timonen - Krajicek
Parent - Coburn
New York Line Combinations
Dubinsky - Christensen - Gaborik
Jokinen - Prospal - Parenteau
Voros - Drury - Callahan
Shelley - Anisimov - Prust
Staal - Rozsival
Del Zotto - Girardi
Redden - Eriksson
Starting Goaltenders
Questions to Answer
- Do the Flyers control the flow of the game out of the gate?
- What is Carter's impact on the game tonight?
- Does Brian Boucher display the same confidence he seemed to show against Toronto?
- Are the Flyers in the postseason at the end of the night?
Somehow, someway, the Flyers are on The Comcast Network again tonight. Yep. Biggest game of the year, relegated to the channel half the region can't get. Might be on Versus for some. Listen on 94.1 FM WYSP, another weird quirk -- Sixers on WIP, Phils on WPHT. Join us here for the conversation in-game, and LET'S GO FLYERS!
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I don’t like the fact that Lieno is sitting with as well as he’s been playing. I think they should sit Powe, slide Asham on to the checking line and stick Lieno on the Carter line.
Of course I have a much larger opinion on what the lines should be, but that’s the quick solution to getting Lieno in there.
I’m going to watch this one with my eyes closed, most likely, while rocking back and forth non-stop and muttering to myself about the 2000 playoffs, or something. It won’t be pretty.
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This should be awesome
Beer, pizza a rented DVD of the Notebook (absolutely dreadful stuff) for the girlfriend to keep her at bay and me watching the Flyers decimate the Rangers.
Lets get on the powerplay and put up some big time goals. Hopefully Briere can get buzzing around the net and Richards snaps out of his dreadful funk, Hartnell keeps his nail biting untimely penalties to perhaps only 4-6 minutes, Boosh keep it simple! And most of all screw the pointless fights!
GO FLYERS!!!!
Brilliant.
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by Ben Rothenberg on Apr 9, 2010 6:32 PM EDT up reply actions
My comcast is telling me that on Verses I’m either going to get the Philadelphia/New York game or the Washington/Atlanta game. I don’t like my odds on what I’m going to get.
My dinner tonight will be consisting of my own fingernails.
Proudly supporting a Flyers team with "no honor".
“Scott Hartnell is the most unpredictable athlete I’ve ever seen … Whether he has to deal with Sean Avery or…Mahatma Ghandi…I don’t know.”
Hell of an endorsement from Bill Clement on pre-game live, eh?
I am hopeful atdhe will have a good stream up. If not, I am sure I will be able to find this game elsewhere. The fact it is on Versus should mean lots of streams will be up tonight.
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I’m at the game tonight, and they are giving away Rangers t-shirts.
Two really classy gentlemen almost fought me because I didn’t want one. The gist of them screaming at me was saying “I’m a Philly asshole” and I should go back to my “hellhole of a town”
going to be a good night…
by Sals Stache on Apr 9, 2010 6:56 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
Because you didn’t want a shitty Rangers shirt? Pfft.
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by Travis Hughes on Apr 9, 2010 7:01 PM EDT up reply actions
and they tried to start a fight over that?
I love how New York fans always try to make it seem like they are the most calm, rational, and well behaved fans on earth. Nuggets like this one tend to get left out
Channel Guide on my cable provider has it on TCN, or maybe Vs. Please be on Vs theres no HD on TCN :(
Damn service electric!
Whoa.
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by Ben Rothenberg on Apr 9, 2010 7:02 PM EDT up reply actions
He also said “Jeffrey Carter,” which is just kind of odd.
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by Ben Rothenberg on Apr 9, 2010 7:05 PM EDT up reply actions
Do I have a slow stream or did the game not start yet?
It’s 7:08 and Coatesy is interviewing Lavvy my TCN stream? Is that where everyone else is?
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Hasn’t started yet.
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by Ben Rothenberg on Apr 9, 2010 7:09 PM EDT up reply actions
rangers end of season awards pushed back the start time
by BulletproofFunk on Apr 9, 2010 7:09 PM EDT up reply actions
End of season is right.
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by Travis Hughes on Apr 9, 2010 7:10 PM EDT up reply actions
I think it’s Sunday.
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by Travis Hughes on Apr 9, 2010 7:11 PM EDT up reply actions
watching the game on msg.
lets go orange black, Trautwig on MSG says that the garden has a vibe tonight that only exists on special occasions. That vibe is that the flyers end the season for the little girls in blue. Boooooooooooooosh plays big, o looks solid !!
Flyers 4 Rangers 1
by upstateNYflyersFan on Apr 9, 2010 7:09 PM EDT reply actions
For those of you who want to get a head start (I’ll be linking to it tomorrow, when it won’t distract from the Game Thread and Recap), Timo Seppa wrote a great article explaining why Boucher’s win-loss record is garbage.
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If part of the argument is “the team didn’t score when Boosh played” true as it may be is not an excuse though. Yes, he lost more than a few games by one or two, but some games he was just plain awful.
Boucher had 15 starts with a save percentage of .913 or higher. The same as Emery. Boucher had 10 starts with a save percentage of .884 or lower compared to 8 for Emery. In between, Boucher had 3 starts to Emery’s 5.
The team got 17 points in Boucher’s 28 games, 33 points in Emery’s 28 games. He was almost exactly as good as Emery this year on a game-to-game basis. Yet the team was twice as good with Emery in net.
Those are results you can’t brush off.
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by Geoff Detweiler on Apr 9, 2010 7:19 PM EDT up reply actions
Yes, but if you are looking at save percentage, shots against is something that can give some context.
Boosh faced 746 Shots in 31 games (24.06/Game)
Emery Faced 783 in 29 games (27/Game)
So, it is possible that in some of the games for either netminder, some of those save percentages were inflated or deflated by virtue of number of shots faced.
I’m just not sure what that context gives you. The Flyers scored 2.18 goals in Boucher’s starts and 2.89 goals in games started by any other goalie.
Boucher facing fewer shots while stopping .913 of them doesn’t mean he played worse than Emery who stopped 2 additional shots while saving the same .913 of them.
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by Geoff Detweiler on Apr 9, 2010 7:38 PM EDT up reply actions
Save percentage is the calculation of saves/shots against as I am sure you know. Save percentage and GAA are not exactly correlated. so the fact that they scored 2.18 goals when boosh started, and 2.89 for emery really has nothing to do with save percentage. You could technically face one shot in a game, allow a goal and have your team score 2 and win with a .000 save percentage.
It also does matter how many shots were faced per game. Because when looking at save %, each additional shot reduces the significance of a save. For example a .900 save percentage can be achieved by stopping 9 of 10 shots, but also by stopping 27 of 30 shots. However, allowing a goal to have 9/11 saves gives a .818 save percentage but allowing a goal for a 27/31 saves/shots against gives a .870 save percentage. In terms of saves, the more shots you face, the less significant each individual save is to your save percentage.
Exactly. I understand all of that. But do an additional 3 shots faced per game reduce the fact that Boucher and Emery had almost identical individual performances, yet one gets twice as good results? No.
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by Geoff Detweiler on Apr 9, 2010 8:13 PM EDT up reply actions
But GAA and Team GFA are very little to not at all indicative of a goalie’s performance. You can’t measure how good a goalie is based on how many goals he gives up.
The article uses the same stat for all three goalies, all three of them perform quite similarly, yet one is such an extreme outlier. It’s important to look at shots, but also look at how many games Boucher started (24). There are a ton of variables, none of which explain why – with the same amount of good, average, poor, and terrible games – Boucher has only gotten 17 points to Emery’s 33.
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by Geoff Detweiler on Apr 9, 2010 8:22 PM EDT up reply actions
But here are stats proving I’m right!
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by Geoff Detweiler on Apr 9, 2010 7:19 PM EDT up reply actions
Oh, that’s an entirely different argument.
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by Geoff Detweiler on Apr 9, 2010 7:44 PM EDT up reply actions
Channeling the retiring Supreme Court Justice maybe?
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by Geoff Detweiler on Apr 9, 2010 7:19 PM EDT up reply actions
I think they just have issues tonight. Weird echo in the mic’s too.
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by Travis Hughes on Apr 9, 2010 7:14 PM EDT up reply actions
Holy shit. I get to watch the game on vs and listen to the Flyers announcers!!!!!!!!!
by LegionofDoom on Apr 9, 2010 7:14 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
Ooh, CSN feed on Vs. Awesome.
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RICHARDS!
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Fuck yeah!!!!!!!! That’s how to start a hockey game.
by LegionofDoom on Apr 9, 2010 7:16 PM EDT via mobile reply actions 1 recs
My friend just telling me that Renteria (for the SF Giants) just hit a two run homer to tie it up and Richards scores. Orange and black are emotionally linked maybe?
How are the Orioles doing?
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by Travis Hughes on Apr 9, 2010 7:18 PM EDT up reply actions
He’s a huge diver/embellisher. Not my favorite of his traits.
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by Ben Rothenberg on Apr 9, 2010 7:18 PM EDT up reply actions
And Carcillo draws a penalty. Suck it, Voros.
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Even with that goal, this still feels like playoff overtime to me. I’ve had far too long and bizarre a day to make it through this one easily.
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Oh? Please explain.
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by Travis Hughes on Apr 9, 2010 7:17 PM EDT up reply actions
I was driving down to Charleston, SC to cover a tennis tournament there for a week, so I woke up at like 3 AM to pack and get a good start on the driving. About 50 miles past the VA-NC border, I get a call saying I got a job I had applied for, but that I absolutely had to start Monday.
So I stopped at a small town gas station / cemetery that sold almost nothing but various flavors of pork skin, and turned around and drove right back.
550 miles round trip.
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by Ben Rothenberg on Apr 9, 2010 7:22 PM EDT up reply actions
Wow. That sucks/ is awesome.
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by Geoff Detweiler on Apr 9, 2010 7:23 PM EDT up reply actions
Exactly.
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by Ben Rothenberg on Apr 9, 2010 7:28 PM EDT up reply actions
So you’ll be coming to the pick-up game Sunday?
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by Geoff Detweiler on Apr 9, 2010 7:30 PM EDT up reply actions
Considering it. But at the moment I’m too exhausted to think about getting back in my car anytime in the next week.
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by Ben Rothenberg on Apr 9, 2010 7:31 PM EDT up reply actions
And the Sixers are on CSN, wtf. Guess I’ll have to tune into YSP on the internet, cause I don’t even have a radio in the house anymore
Why the hell do the Sixers keep ending up on CSN and pushing the Phillies and Flyers (two teams people actually care about) to TCN?
It’s determined before the season based on who is the home team, but they really should’ve changed it for tonight.
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by Travis Hughes on Apr 9, 2010 7:22 PM EDT up reply actions
Wouldn’t it make more sense to put the road team on CSN to encourage people who don’t have TCN to go to the game? Sort of like the old home blackout idea.
That’s a great point.
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by Geoff Detweiler on Apr 9, 2010 7:24 PM EDT up reply actions
Pretty.
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by Ben Rothenberg on Apr 9, 2010 7:23 PM EDT up reply actions
Out of play
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by Geoff Detweiler on Apr 9, 2010 7:24 PM EDT up reply actions
So you can time to see how far behind it is…
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by Geoff Detweiler on Apr 9, 2010 7:25 PM EDT up reply actions
It’s time for some old time Nazi Hockey!
by LegionofDoom on Apr 9, 2010 7:24 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
Fucking linesman getting in Pronger’s way. Boo.
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There's only one way to turn his luck around:
That’s right. Kick Gaborik’s commie-loving ass.
Why did the Rangers have a 2-on-1 down load right there? What happened to Kimmo, and why was Betts as low as he was, yet still not in a good position?
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They need better lighting at MSG.
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I know its meant to be historic and everything, but on TV it looks like a minor league arena or a game filmed in the 70’s.
Yeah, I hate watching hockey games at MSG. What’s with the stupid railing blocking the glass??
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by Geoff Detweiler on Apr 9, 2010 7:29 PM EDT up reply actions
(Yelling at Homer not to resign Coburn)
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by Geoff Detweiler on Apr 9, 2010 7:44 PM EDT up reply actions
What’s the score?
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Jody Shelley scored, really? I can’t watch them tonight but just the fact that a guy like Shelley scored on us is pathetic.
Hartnell: “LOOK AT ME, I DID SOMETHING PRODUCTIVE!”
Everyone else: “No, Scott, you have to put the puck INTO the net, not NEAR to it.”
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Thanks guys.
Well.. they need to get it together… now.
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I can’t see the game so Im just gonna ask. are they playing like the playoffs are on the line or not?
Good thing this game doesn’t matter.
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by Ben Rothenberg on Apr 9, 2010 7:44 PM EDT up reply actions
Nah.
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by Ben Rothenberg on Apr 9, 2010 7:49 PM EDT up reply actions
17 minutes between shots.
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For all of you looking, there is an HD feed of the TCN channel, it’s 856 on mine. And the sound is just as f-ed up
It’s 201, too.
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by Travis Hughes on Apr 9, 2010 7:50 PM EDT up reply actions
I presume you mean on Comcast Cable, cause my Service Electric Channel 201 is HBO something or other.
Oh, yeah.
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by Travis Hughes on Apr 9, 2010 7:53 PM EDT up reply actions
Hey, the hockey game is on TV. Welcome to 1970, everybody.
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Oh sweet, let me go get my Polyester Suit.
Oh, This is bound to be good
You can't, but you thought that You could
yuck.
we can do better. tell hartnell to get his head unfucked
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Hey guys! Just got in, can’t watch the game….but we’re playing the Rangers, with our lives riding on these games, so we’ve got to be running them all over, right? Right? Guys….? We’re killing them, right?
That was the worst period in a long time. One lucky play is the only reason it’s a one goal game.
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At least we have a coach who will light a fire under the players’ asses during the intermission. If that’s helpful.
Is it just me (or the system?) or do they play very passively (and poorly) in their own zone for the most part?
Can’t tell if there is a defensive system, except get the puck and push it, even if the pass isnt there. We always get in trouble in our own end.
I like Hartnell but the way he has played lately I’d much rather see Leino in the way he has played he should be in.
Completely agree, don’t get it. Play your BEST players, not the ones that may help if so and so is playing against us. Should’ve learned that with the Cote debacle
I don’t care if we’re playing a Texas pee-wee team, Hartnell should be in the press box. Such a liability.
Cote is a waste of salary space, just like Rathje, although he’s on the LTIR I can’t believe he hasn’t been bought out yet.
Why would he be bought out? First of all, that contract ends after this season. Second of all, while on LTIR, the Flyers get his cap space back (that’s an oversimplification — we’ve had some really long discussions around BSH about what LTIR actually means and it has some negative implications that affected the Flyers’ ability to make a real move during the trade deadline, but more or less that’s what happens).
I know that already, I said Rathje was on the LTIR but the fact that you allow someone to have a contract like that who is so undeserving in the first place just shows that the management is not so could with contracts, Hartnell and Briere both have NTC’s and neither should, besides that Briere is highly overpaid.
wow. coburn really got burned on that second goal
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That should be a tshirt.
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by Geoff Detweiler on Apr 9, 2010 8:15 PM EDT up reply actions
True. But we know better.
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by Geoff Detweiler on Apr 9, 2010 8:22 PM EDT up reply actions
Yeah. I guess the person got sick of the crappy music playing on Gamecenter.
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Password is fantastic4.
The GameCenter music is currently rivaling the German rap in terms of awfulness.
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anybody here old enough to remember the epic meltdown of 89-90(?). in december of ‘89 the flyers were first place in the patrick division. the new year turned, and i don’t believe they got a victory for about 20 games.
lost to isles in the last game of the season to miss the playoffs. now that was one for the books.
i don’t mention this for any reason whatsoever.
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Comcast put a new customer service guy on Twitter just now to respond to complaints about the Comcast Network. Comcast’s explanation? First, the transmission truck “broke”, then was “facing interference”, then was “having power problems”.
Also, they literally were holding a cell phone to their in-arena audio equipment.
That was great.
“We’re set to resume our coverage of the Philadelphia BEEEEEEEEEEEP”
Sums up my feelings on them right now nicely.
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it does when involving gas!
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by CoburnsCuddleBuddy on Apr 9, 2010 8:12 PM EDT up reply actions
There’s offense this period!
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can any hockey savvy person tell me what the rangers are doing that’s causing us to suck so bad in our own zone?
I think they call it forechecking. Though I could be mistaken cause I was under the impression that forechecking constisted of dumping the puck into your opponents zone and turning it over.
ohh cool, instead of getting the Flyers or Phillies, I get the sixers and Caps. TV fail
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Flyers are on The Comcast Network. Here’s a stream if you don’t get it.
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Beware the awful German rap during intermissions.
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I think I’m going to watch a real team… the Phillies. I think the Flyers have mailed it in for 2010.
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DONT GIVE UP YET
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by Travis Hughes on Apr 9, 2010 8:17 PM EDT up reply actions
Pronger let Dubinsky skate right by.
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Astros....
are the Phills rejects
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fuckin right, Danny.
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YES.
I was about to go to bed.
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It’s been a long ass day.
Why are hockey games so long?!?!
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by Ben Rothenberg on Apr 9, 2010 8:27 PM EDT up reply actions
WAWWWWWWW………. What the hell is going on :(
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"We will steal the show, jolly Rogers go, we are wolves of the sea."
Apparently, some guy on a website started and organized this big pickup hockey game, and got everyone fired up about it, and then bailed out himself…..oh, you mean in the game? 3-2 Rangers…
FUCK YOU!
lol jk, and yeah I hate my life
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Well, I’ll be 30 next week, and all I can tell you is, it only gets worse. Enjoy your early 20’s guy, cause it’s all downhill from here…..sorry, my mid-life crisis is coming early…
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"We will steal the show, jolly Rogers go, we are wolves of the sea."
Tim McManus says John Paddock told him “many new goalies coming” into the system this offseason.
many???
I just want Burnier
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"We will steal the show, jolly Rogers go, we are wolves of the sea."
Also like that he called out Nodl and Maroon specifically, but with “veteran signings play/leadership”, I’m wondering if he’s only calling out Jason Ward, Krys Kolanos, Joey Mormina, et al, or also Jared Ross, the Captain.
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by Geoff Detweiler on Apr 9, 2010 8:39 PM EDT up reply actions
WHAT A PASS. WHAT A GOAL.
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Shitty goal, but a thing of beauty.
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Richie playing like a real captain
by SanDiegoScraps on Apr 9, 2010 8:38 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
Isby it time for Gabby to have a groin injury
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Slowest god damn glove in hockey
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Goldberrgggggg
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by CoburnsCuddleBuddy on Apr 9, 2010 8:41 PM EDT reply actions
That deflected off of Carle’s stick before going past Boucher, before anybody gets too down on my guy.
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Not positive, tough to see from the angle.
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by Geoff Detweiler on Apr 9, 2010 8:42 PM EDT up reply actions
The way it was wobbling, it didn’t look like it to me personally. But no DVR for me to rewind and double check
by DragonGirl0583 on Apr 9, 2010 8:43 PM EDT up reply actions
Now you’re just making it comical…
Can we get a t-shirt made with your likeness on one knee proposing to Bouch(in full pads)?
Would anybody buy that except me?
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by Geoff Detweiler on Apr 9, 2010 9:06 PM EDT up reply actions
haha
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by Geoff Detweiler on Apr 9, 2010 9:08 PM EDT up reply actions
Depends on how funny it looks in the end…. Although the more inside joke themed shirts we end up with, the more I feel like we should have the name of the site on the shirt somewhere
by DragonGirl0583 on Apr 9, 2010 9:08 PM EDT up reply actions
John Stevens scaring the hell out of me on Versus…..god, I wish he would stop looking at the camera….and that speaking voice…
Almost all the former players/coach broadcasters aren’t very good in the beginning though, are they? All the ones we’ve had I remember starting off pretty badly
by DragonGirl0583 on Apr 9, 2010 8:44 PM EDT up reply actions
I’m just remembering how awful Jonesy and Bundy started off
by DragonGirl0583 on Apr 9, 2010 8:50 PM EDT up reply actions
I didn’t say I liked Stevens, I just said they all start bad. And neither of them was a good broadcaster at first, that’s all I meant
by DragonGirl0583 on Apr 9, 2010 8:53 PM EDT up reply actions
I know, Its just different than what they are used to. Interviews are generally pretty easy, just answering questions. Press conferences have a little more depth into everything, and broadcasting and analysis is like reporting which is completely different. I said earlier tonight, Stevens does not look comfortable in that spot right now.
fyi
Bases loaded for Howard
"Sugah n' rainbows"
"We will steal the show, jolly Rogers go, we are wolves of the sea."
Mets losing to the Nats.
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by Travis Hughes on Apr 9, 2010 8:46 PM EDT up reply actions
Same shit.
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by Travis Hughes on Apr 9, 2010 8:48 PM EDT up reply actions
They set a franchise recored last year, and that worked out pretty well for them
"Sugah n' rainbows"
"We will steal the show, jolly Rogers go, we are wolves of the sea."
I though Carel was outstanding this year
"Sugah n' rainbows"
"We will steal the show, jolly Rogers go, we are wolves of the sea."
He’s definitely been less than stellar lately. He started off fantastic, has since regressed to his true skill level.
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by Geoff Detweiler on Apr 9, 2010 9:07 PM EDT up reply actions
On a totally unrelated note, I’m torn over the fact that i think I may like Corey Hart’s song “Sunglasses at Night”….these are my struggles….
I think this calls for some Wolves of the Sea.
BAM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LbRHTmVr9bQ&feature=related
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by Ben Rothenberg on Apr 9, 2010 9:02 PM EDT up reply actions
Coburn takes a hooking penalty… Man, this guy is awesome.
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SH goal, Carter, calling it
"Sugah n' rainbows"
"We will steal the show, jolly Rogers go, we are wolves of the sea."
Wow. When was the last time we got one of those??
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by Geoff Detweiler on Apr 9, 2010 9:11 PM EDT up reply actions
Maybe Richie or Gags (who are both overdue), Carter’s speed isn’t quite where it usually is
by DragonGirl0583 on Apr 9, 2010 9:11 PM EDT up reply actions
u rannnngggggg?
TAKE THE FALL, ACT HURT, GET INDIGNANT
by CoburnsCuddleBuddy on Apr 9, 2010 9:12 PM EDT up reply actions
No. Not at all.
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by Geoff Detweiler on Apr 9, 2010 9:13 PM EDT up reply actions
Still pissed that they scratched him. They could have just sat Hartnell.
by StarbladeMKIII on Apr 9, 2010 9:14 PM EDT up reply actions
Asham and Powe should sit before Hartnell, but Hartnell should be on the third line, Leino on the second. Look at this:
Gagne – Richards – Carcillo
Leino – Carter – Briere
JVR – Giroux – Hartnell
Asham – Betts – Laperriere
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by Geoff Detweiler on Apr 9, 2010 9:16 PM EDT up reply actions
No argument here.
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by Geoff Detweiler on Apr 9, 2010 9:19 PM EDT up reply actions
I like Powe too, but I’m just not sure what his role is on this team. Other than “skate fast, hit somebody, fall down, skate fast on the backcheck”, what does he do? He needs a more well-defined role.
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by Geoff Detweiler on Apr 9, 2010 9:23 PM EDT up reply actions
Think he’s a good player, just give him third line, let him use that speed both ways, and get more scoring opportunities
Eh, Powe can kill penalties. So you’re giving up some defense for offense. And that gets back to the “what is your third line? Scoring, grinding, checking, defensive…” argument.
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by Geoff Detweiler on Apr 9, 2010 9:29 PM EDT up reply actions
no, But MarioD is crying right now
"Sugah n' rainbows"
"We will steal the show, jolly Rogers go, we are wolves of the sea."
Indeed
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by Geoff Detweiler on Apr 9, 2010 9:13 PM EDT up reply actions
I have a feeling the majority of the audience for Versus original programming is patients in the Coma Unit.
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by Ben Rothenberg on Apr 9, 2010 9:15 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
BOOOOOSH.....
love keeping it interesting haha
"Sugah n' rainbows"
"We will steal the show, jolly Rogers go, we are wolves of the sea."
See that
Boucher is so awesome, he felt that the game was too easy and wanted to make it a little more fair.
Wow. Just wow.
And Hartnell, already??
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I literally just changed that. haha, thanks for noticing
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by Geoff Detweiler on Apr 9, 2010 9:18 PM EDT up reply actions
Hartnell should never dress in MSG.
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Not in my window…
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by Geoff Detweiler on Apr 9, 2010 9:20 PM EDT up reply actions
And have since added it to my tagline :)
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by Geoff Detweiler on Apr 9, 2010 9:23 PM EDT up reply actions
What the hell is wrong with Hartnell?
"Sugah n' rainbows"
"We will steal the show, jolly Rogers go, we are wolves of the sea."
Hartnell’s really a whole different brand of stupid against the Rangers.
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not trying to be creepy.....
but that can be aranged, I have a harpoon in my house haha
"Sugah n' rainbows"
"We will steal the show, jolly Rogers go, we are wolves of the sea."
So…. I can’t wait for Homer to get rid of Hartnell this offseason. He gotta find someway, somehow to get rid of this cancer.
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I would have absolutely no problem with Hartnell getting the Cote treatment if it means he doesn’t kill the team with dumb penalties.
i mean, Giroux angrily pushed him last game b/c he put the game in jeopardy. Now… after this, I wouldn’t be surprised if someone beat his ass at the next practice.
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I almost can’t wait to do my “Grading the Flyers – Scott Hartnell” series. Maybe as excited as I was to write Randy Jones’ last year.
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Are you going to try to make it all the way though this time? I don’t think Richie got done last year, I looked for it and never saw it
by DragonGirl0583 on Apr 9, 2010 9:22 PM EDT up reply actions
haha, I didn’t do Richie or Carter.
Good catch. I ran out of time, but this summer I should have plenty of time.
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by Geoff Detweiler on Apr 9, 2010 9:24 PM EDT up reply actions
Thank God Hartnell in box for 5 minutes. Best thing that he could gave done to help his team. He is horrible.
by LegionofDoom on Apr 9, 2010 9:22 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
Yeah, that’s crap.
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by Geoff Detweiler on Apr 9, 2010 9:25 PM EDT up reply actions
This powerplay is beyond huge.
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JVR is the unluckiest guy in the NHL
"Sugah n' rainbows"
"We will steal the show, jolly Rogers go, we are wolves of the sea."
That was a great opportunity, he just couldn’t get a better shot off. Off-balance, backhand. He did everything he was supposed to.
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by Geoff Detweiler on Apr 9, 2010 9:30 PM EDT up reply actions
Boucher’s poke check there just saved a goal.
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Oh get a room.
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by Ben Rothenberg on Apr 9, 2010 9:29 PM EDT up reply actions
hahahaha
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by Geoff Detweiler on Apr 9, 2010 9:30 PM EDT up reply actions
I love how Gaborik loves to pile on or be the 3rd guy in and then when someone wants to make him pay that guy becomes the biggest asshole in the NHL.
Who the heck was that face-washing Asham as they went to break?
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Chase homer
"Sugah n' rainbows"
"We will steal the show, jolly Rogers go, we are wolves of the sea."
Don’t think so. NYR can eliminate us with another win.
by StarbladeMKIII on Apr 9, 2010 9:35 PM EDT up reply actions
I hate how many of our shots get blocked by non goalies
by SanDiegoScraps on Apr 9, 2010 9:35 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
Isn’t it more fitting to ask why Hartnell was out there? I mean if I have to choose…..
by DragonGirl0583 on Apr 9, 2010 9:36 PM EDT up reply actions
It’s not really Carter’s fault though. He had a ton of opportunities. Now, the lines are a different matter.
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by Geoff Detweiler on Apr 9, 2010 9:37 PM EDT up reply actions
So even if they make the playoffs chances are they face the Caps and get bitch slapped in 5 games. Because that’s better than making the playoffs.
And the playoffs are just about out of the equation
"Sugah n' rainbows"
"We will steal the show, jolly Rogers go, we are wolves of the sea."
Oh jebus… Sunday should be fun, eh?
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It’s going to be barren here, though?
Now I won’t have a place to rant on when we blow it for good.
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If I did not go to college so far away from where the pick-up game was, I’d join them there, but, cursing here where only you and a very few others can here me will do.
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about 10 min over the Walt Whitman in south jersey…. details are in the fanpost
by DragonGirl0583 on Apr 9, 2010 9:42 PM EDT up reply actions
Which is probably a good 3-hour drive for me. Pass.
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Where do you go to school?
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by Travis Hughes on Apr 9, 2010 9:43 PM EDT up reply actions
Sounds like it would be fun, but not sure if you need Netminders. Also, Im not sure how much I really want to put on all my equipment in that heat.
I’m sure people can take shifts, there’s a pretty good number of people coming
(I seriously thought there would only be like 10 of us)
by DragonGirl0583 on Apr 9, 2010 9:51 PM EDT up reply actions
Hour by hour forecast currently ranges from 68-72 from 11am to 2 pm; but that’s not always 100% accurate
by DragonGirl0583 on Apr 9, 2010 9:52 PM EDT up reply actions
It’s only 9:45…
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by Travis Hughes on Apr 9, 2010 9:49 PM EDT up reply actions
Heh. I’ll probably be in bed sometime between 2 and 4 in the morning.
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I know that drive pretty well, so yeah I don’t blame you
by DragonGirl0583 on Apr 9, 2010 9:46 PM EDT up reply actions
Shitty offense – Again. Man does this team miss Knuble.
by SanDiegoScraps on Apr 9, 2010 9:38 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
So the best the Flyers can do is 8th in the playoffs and face the Caps in the first round?
Yeah guess I will move onto baseball.
by LegionofDoom on Apr 9, 2010 9:39 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
Oh well.
So much for being positive! I tried, all. Even when it was 3-1 I thought, “We can do this.” And once it was tied at 3, I really thought we would.
Then, the bouncing puck. And then, the wilting in the face of adversity.
I get the feeling that this will be all Mike Richards’ fault, somehow.
Do you see what happens when you find a stranger in the Alps?
I get the feeling he won’t be on the team next year.
Do you see what happens when you find a stranger in the Alps?
Has an NTC. Has a $4.2MM cap hit and 44 points this year. His contract runs through 12-13 season.
You could waive him or send him to the A, but he’s not getting traded.
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Carcillo?
If the Flyers lose on Sunday and miss out on the playoffs, does anyone think Carcillo will be gone?
I’m only asking because there will be a lot of people saying “Well, he got into that fight when the Flyers were leading 3-0 in the playoffs last season, and then they lost. And now he got the double-minor which turned the game around on Friday and they lost!!!!!!!!!!”
I’m not sure how much weight “a lot of people” carry with the Flyers brass (not too much, I’m sure), but I’m sure people will complain.
Do you see what happens when you find a stranger in the Alps?
If “a lot of people” carried weight, wouldn’t Holmgren’s job at least be up for debate, instead of guaranteed safe?
by DragonGirl0583 on Apr 9, 2010 9:55 PM EDT up reply actions
Carbomb’s not the problem. He’s given 100% all season and if someone thinks he’s the problem, then they aren’t watching the games.
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