Wednesday Morning Fly By: Game 3 Tonight, Areas to Improve, and Fans Satisfied??
by Geoff Detweiler on May 5, 2010 10:30 AM EDT
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Today's open discussion thread, complete with your daily dose of Philadelphia Flyers news and notes...
- Last night's NHL scores... Penguins 2 - Canadiens 0 (PIT leads series 2-1); Sharks 4 - Red Wings 3 (OT) (SJ leads series 3-0)
- Previews of tonight's game: [NHL.com] [CSNPhilly] [Stanley Cup of Chowder]
- The Flyers have a few things to work on, including faceoffs: [CSNPhilly] [Daily News]
- and getting more than 2 forwards to score: [Daily News] [DelcoTimes]
- Simon Gagne is hoping to skate this weekend. Will find out on Friday: [BSH] [CSNPhilly] [DelcoTimes]
- With the way Miroslav Satan is playing, the Flyers really miss Simon Gagne. [Inquirer]
- Among fans who ranked the Flyers as their favorite team in Philly, only 18.7% are "dissatisfied" or "very dissatisfied" with the performance of Ed Snider. As opposed to 17.7% who are "very satisfied". The numbers are especially amazing in terms of Paul Holmgren's performance. [Daily News]
- Debunking the idea that Danny Briere is a "clutch" scorer: [Hockey or Die]
- Worried about the Flyers being down 2-0? Brian Boucher has come back before. [Daily News]
- Looking at the best forwards - those who play against the best forwards and come out on top: [The Copper & Blue]
- Crosby is no longer loved in Montreal: [Puck Daddy]
- Ten reasons to watch "Broad Street Bullies." Like you needed any more. [Puck Daddy]
- Lastly, a hysterical blunder by MSNBC and NBC Chicago falling for a joke. This is a must read. [Deadspin]
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The fans that voted, Is that for this season only or is that in recent/current performance? because Im very satisfied by the fact that they are always among the top 10 teams in the league almost every year.
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I clarified. It was specifically “Ed Snider”, not “the team” as originally said.
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by Geoff Detweiler on May 5, 2010 11:30 AM EDT up reply actions
You really think those percentages are unbelievable? Snider has been, for his entire tenure, one of the top 10 executives in the league. I’ll always be very satisfied with his performance as long as he continues to care this much.
no, when I initially read it, I thought it was “team performance”, not Snider’s performance. But the Holmgren numbers do surprise me.
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by Geoff Detweiler on May 5, 2010 11:53 AM EDT up reply actions
i am not satisfied. we should be beating the bruins.
but we’re not.
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the Bruins, with Rask, are basically our equal. that why both games have been 1 goal games, and literally won either in OT or a minute left. this series could be easily be 1-1 or 2-0 the other way.
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I agree, it’s been very even. Obviously I’m hoping our luck runs out, but I wouldn’t be surprised at all to wake up saturday tied 2-2.
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by Cornelius Hardenbergh on May 5, 2010 11:43 AM EDT up reply actions
It has been a very even series and you are right, a series tied at 2 is not totally out of the question, and if I am Boston, it is not the most disappointing thing in the world either. You guys are yet to lose at home in the playoffs and in a series like this, that is huge.
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Just because it hasn’t happened yet doesn’t mean it won’t happen at all.
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by Cornelius Hardenbergh on May 5, 2010 2:55 PM EDT up reply actions
I know, but it is certainly an advantage for you, even if it is just psychological.
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Yeah and the caps figured they’d wrap up the habs in 3. Worked too well.
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by Cornelius Hardenbergh on May 5, 2010 3:20 PM EDT up reply actions
I just said it’s a psychological advantage, not a definite the Bruins are never losing a home playoff game.
Then again, part of that psychological advantage is not psyching yourself out that you have it in the bag, ala the Caps.
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That’s what I’m saying right there
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by Cornelius Hardenbergh on May 5, 2010 3:45 PM EDT up reply actions
I'm confused.
And, no, not trolling.
Why exactly do you think the Flyers and the B’s are equal?
Goaltending? No
Defense? No
Offense? Yes
Special Teams? No
Coaching? Push
The B’s are better all around than the Flyers. If the Flyers can have Carter back, different story, but it’s also a different story if the B’s have Sidenberg and a healthy Savard….so.
Which B's team is this?
The B’s defense is better than the Flyers? Is that a fact?
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by Travis Hughes on May 5, 2010 3:40 PM EDT up reply actions
Chara won a Norris more recently than Pronger, though currently the Flyers have a lower GA/G (with one more in the G category).
However, with an equal GF/G, Boston has a better 5-on-5 F/A ratio than the flyers. Not to mention the best PK.
All of this adds up to a big “maybe.”
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by Cornelius Hardenbergh on May 5, 2010 3:45 PM EDT up reply actions
That’s what I’m saying. It’s close… and certainly not a YES or NO either way.
(and with Green’s nomination, I’m convinced winning the Norris doesn’t necessarily mean that much)
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by Travis Hughes on May 5, 2010 3:59 PM EDT up reply actions
There’s very little I’m certain about in this series, or any.
We lost to CAROLINA last year, nothing is east or certain.
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by Cornelius Hardenbergh on May 5, 2010 4:20 PM EDT up reply actions
Yup
Ur forgetting Seidenburg and Stuart are sitting right now.
Wideman is awful defensivley and McQuiad is a rookie who looks a little shell shocked out there.
Which B's team is this?
Wideman is actually pretty good most of the time but he’ll make one ridiculously bad blunder every game and a half or so.
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by Cornelius Hardenbergh on May 5, 2010 3:49 PM EDT up reply actions
Special teams are a wash too.
So its PHI Off and Def vs BOS Gtl
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Nope, look at the stats
Bos better on D (goals against), Philly better on O (more goals scored), Special Teams are a wash (now that I look at the stats), and B’s have better goalies….so….
Which B's team is this?
and I'd argue that D and Goaltending win more in the playoffs than Offense does.
Can we agree on that?
Which B's team is this?
and the original ST comment was more based
on the B’s last series against Buff. They shut out Buff’s PP. (mostly without Vanek tho)
Which B's team is this?
Are goals against a fair reflection on just the defense? Or do you think that goaltending might influence goals against?
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Not to mention the effects of a coaching/system change one team went through. But just looking at goals against overall isn’t necessarily a good indication of who has the better defense.
Maybe a better stat is scoring chances?
That would reflect the holes in the D, right? Problem with that stat is that it’s a bit too arbitrary. One man’s scoring chance isn’t another’s
Which B's team is this?
same with hits, statnerds use “away arena hits” for that. However, there haven’t been any away games for the Bruins yet, so I don’t know.
It’s tough to use numbers to prove your team is better, since someone else can usually use other stats to disprove you.
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by Cornelius Hardenbergh on May 5, 2010 4:41 PM EDT up reply actions
Well, if I had time to pull stats together here I would, but there are stats that you can find that can give you a better idea of who’s D might edge out the other. Maybe our resident stat experst can pull some together (MarioD, Geoff…anyone).
For now I have to leave work, and make my way to the game. Best of luck to you guys, as long as you don’t win tonight.
If it makes you feel any better, I think, given both teams injuries, they are very evenly matched. Boston was a team I didn’t want to play, one b/c I’ve always like the Bruins, and I don’t like hating them, and two, because they are just a tough team to play against, they always keep it close.
Could say the same about the Flyers, except change the “always liked them” to “always hated them”
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by Cornelius Hardenbergh on May 5, 2010 5:06 PM EDT up reply actions
It’d be tough to look at which team’s defense is better since the best place to look would be full season statistics. But with Seidenberg out, Krajicek only played here half the time, etc. it’d wouldn’t exactly be an accurate reflection.
In the playoffs, the Flyers have allowed fewer goals against per game (2.43 to 2.62), while Boucher has had a .934 even-strength save percentage compared to Rask’s .917. What do you get outta that? Not sure. Either Boucher’s been better than Rask OR the Flyers defense has been better than Boston’s. I would tend to believe the second one, since the Flyers are only giving up 29.7 shots per game to Boston’s 32.
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by Geoff Detweiler on May 5, 2010 6:33 PM EDT up reply actions
I bet they do, but currently your goalie has a marginally better stat line than ours, so what does that say about your defense?
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by Cornelius Hardenbergh on May 5, 2010 4:19 PM EDT up reply actions
That, in the NJ series, the team did a great job of keeping shots to the outside and/or blocking them, sometimes with their face. And that for the most part Boucher has played as well, or better than expected. It says something about the team D and the goalies performance. We are questioning eyebob’s logic there, not using our goalies line as a basis of ours.
I can’t speak for eyebob’s logic.
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by Cornelius Hardenbergh on May 5, 2010 4:41 PM EDT up reply actions
Again, "scoring chances"
in the NJ case, your D stood on their nipples to keep stuff to the perimeter, that’s a case for “scoring chances” as vague a stat as that is.
bt
Which B's team is this?
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That sounds flat-out nasty. Baileys and tequila would be a lethal mix.
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On an aside, this fake Boucher twitter account is really disappointing.
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by Geoff Detweiler on May 5, 2010 11:59 AM EDT reply actions
yes, Geoff, you really need to step it up
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by HockeyOutsiders on May 5, 2010 12:00 PM EDT up reply actions
I’m thinking of creating a competing fake Twitter. Mine would obviously be so much better.
“Who’s this Lates guy, and what does he think he’s doing opening the door for me?”
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by Geoff Detweiler on May 5, 2010 12:05 PM EDT up reply actions
Briere
I wouldn’t characterize Briere as a “clutch” scorer either. A clutch player in my opinion goes much more beyond stats. While Briere certainly elevates his game in the playoffs and he certainly has been somewhat clutch against the Bruins (2 GTG-to bad, we couldn’t capitalize on either), he’s not really at the echelon of guys who score big goals.
In fact, the list of guys in this league who are truly clutch is probably pretty small.
It probably contains some guy named Sidney and maybe a few others. In fact, AO might not even be on that list.
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by HockeyOutsiders on May 5, 2010 12:04 PM EDT reply actions
What about Giroux? 0.59 pts/g in the regular season, 0.85 pts/g in the playoffs.
Obviously, he’s only got 13 playoff games, but still.
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by Geoff Detweiler on May 5, 2010 12:10 PM EDT up reply actions
not a big enough sample size for me and he’s been invisible so far in this Boston series.
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by HockeyOutsiders on May 5, 2010 12:16 PM EDT up reply actions
Well, only two players have been visible: Richards and Briere.
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by Geoff Detweiler on May 5, 2010 12:21 PM EDT up reply actions
Actually, I thought Leino was at least good in the last game.
Unfortunately, Giroux isn’t being “hidden” so much on that third line. Maybe I’m speaking out of my ass, but my instincts are telling me that Giroux is playing against much tougher competition now then in the NJ series and probably who he played against in the Pittsburgh series last year.
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by HockeyOutsiders on May 5, 2010 12:29 PM EDT up reply actions
From Game 2, he got somewhat favorable D-pairing matchups (Wideman and Boychuk, with Chara right behind Boychuk), but forwards were Savard, Lucic, and Ryder.
Not exactly easy competition, but that’s just Game 2.
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by Geoff Detweiler on May 5, 2010 1:20 PM EDT up reply actions
Isn’t that the bruins top line though? How often did he have to face Kolvachuk/Parise last series? I don’t think he was on the ice that much against Crosby/Malkin last year either.
I’m not saying this to get down on the kid, I think Giroux is awesome, but he is definitely now having to play with the “big boys”
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by HockeyOutsiders on May 5, 2010 1:36 PM EDT up reply actions
SCoC says it’s their third (Sobotka, Savard, Ryder) but they also say Paille-Bergeron-Recchi is the top line, so I’m not so sure.
But Chara/Boychuk is their top D-pairing, which is a tough matchup, it’s Wideman/Boychuk that I think is a favorable one for Giroux.
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by Geoff Detweiler on May 5, 2010 1:39 PM EDT up reply actions
It changes a lot. Last year Lucic-Savard-Kessel was our top line, and for a while this year it was Lucic-Savard-Sturm.
However all of those guys have gotten hurt a fair amount so yeah, Paille-Bergeron-Recchi feels like our top line.
Going by ESTOI/G so far in the playoffs, Satan-Krejci-Bergeron are the top 3 forwards in ice-time.
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by Cornelius Hardenbergh on May 5, 2010 1:44 PM EDT up reply actions
No way that’s their 3rd line. I could buy that the Bergeron line is their top line, but not that the Savard line isn’t a 2A-2B situation.
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by HockeyOutsiders on May 5, 2010 1:46 PM EDT up reply actions
Savard’s had his minutes managed. He’s only playing 15 minutes a night. In terms of skill, he’s our top center but in terms of TOI he’s not.
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by Cornelius Hardenbergh on May 5, 2010 1:48 PM EDT up reply actions
3 of those 15 minutes/game are powerplay time, too.
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by Cornelius Hardenbergh on May 5, 2010 1:51 PM EDT up reply actions
That makes sense with his injury. That’s a deep lineup down the middle.
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by Geoff Detweiler on May 5, 2010 1:53 PM EDT up reply actions
Just you wait until we have Seguin to add to Savard, Bergeron, Krejci, Sobotka, Begin! EVERY LINE A DOUBLE-CENTER LINE!
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by Cornelius Hardenbergh on May 5, 2010 1:54 PM EDT up reply actions
haha, you better enjoy that 1-year window of Seguin’s rookie year. With only Lucic, Savard, and Krejci signed after next year, good luck with that.
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by Geoff Detweiler on May 5, 2010 1:55 PM EDT up reply actions
That’s called roster flexibility, champ.
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by Cornelius Hardenbergh on May 5, 2010 1:57 PM EDT up reply actions
This is true. Then again, you won’t have that flexibility once you sign them.
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by Geoff Detweiler on May 5, 2010 2:16 PM EDT up reply actions
You’re telling me.
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by Cornelius Hardenbergh on May 5, 2010 2:20 PM EDT up reply actions
True, but those 3 still there
and Rask too, makes for a pretty enviable place to be. Wings are easier to find than Centers and D can be bought fairly cheap. Ask me? If I had to choose, I’d choose to be strong up the middle and in net and be able to build around that.
The emphasis is going to be to sign Bergeron to a long term contract ASAP, which Chiarelli has had a penchant for doing (some for better, some for worse)
Which B's team is this?
i disagree. giroux is a monster on the forecheck and faceoffs.
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As a B's fan, I think Giroux has been, maybe your best all-around player.
Would love to get that guy on my team.
Which B's team is this?
Not Richards?
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Giroux has been the best player for us among the subset of forwards that are not obviously our best forward.
Does that read at all?
Yeah but we all know that, like everything else from Philly, the Flyers are all big dumb ugly jerks.
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by Cornelius Hardenbergh on May 5, 2010 5:03 PM EDT up reply actions
Reading Derek’s analysis over at C&B, makes me appreciate 1) how good a player Mike Richards actually is and 2) makes me wonder what Gomez would have looked like in the O&B vs. Briere. Don’t get me wrong, I like Danny, but I always wanted them to sign Gomez instead. Yes, Gomez has been killed for his price tag vs. lack of production, but the guy is absolutely a beast 5-5. He’s been great for Montreal in the playoffs as well.
Also, we should trade Hartnell for Stephen Weiss.
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by HockeyOutsiders on May 5, 2010 12:19 PM EDT reply actions
haha, Donny from Litter Box Cats thinks Weiss might be available this summer. Whole “rebuilding” thing.
Carter + Hartnell for Weiss + Vokoun?
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by Geoff Detweiler on May 5, 2010 12:22 PM EDT up reply actions
HILARIOUS. I literally almost typed Hartnell + Carter for Weiss + Vokoun, but I thought I would get mocked for suggesting we trade a 25 and 28 year old for a 27 and 33 year old.
That said, i’d probably do that trade in a moment.
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by HockeyOutsiders on May 5, 2010 12:26 PM EDT up reply actions
How about just Hartnell for Weiss?
I really do not want the Flyers to trade Jeff Carter. We are seeing in this series just how important two-way depth at center is in the playoffs.
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true, Homer would definitely have to sweeten the pot to trade Hartnell for Weiss.
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by HockeyOutsiders on May 5, 2010 12:34 PM EDT up reply actions
well, that was my initial suggestion. Weiss is definitely underrated and his price tag is quite affordable. If I was Holmgren, I’d definitely try to get him if he truly is available.
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by HockeyOutsiders on May 5, 2010 12:30 PM EDT up reply actions
by the way, Mike, Weiss is a center, and Weiss is one of the top 5 -2 way centers in the game (according to C&B’s article), so making this trade isn’t affecting your center depth.
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by HockeyOutsiders on May 5, 2010 12:42 PM EDT up reply actions
It affects scoring depth pretty severely.
Over the last 4 seasons (when Weiss has played full or almost-full seasons), he has averaged 18.75 goals per year. Over the same stretch, Hartnell has averaged 22.5, and Carter has averaged 30.5.
(22.5 + 30.5) – 18.75 = 34.25.
In other words, Carter and Hartnell combine for about 53 goals per year. Remove them and replace them with Weiss, who will pop in 19. The Flyers will be expected to score 34 fewer goals if they make this trade.
We can assume that Giroux and JVR will increase their production next year, but putting the pressure on them to produce this year did not turn out so well. We also have to hope that Briere and Gagne stay healthy and produce at their normal levels.
I like Weiss, but this trade may be too steep. We’ve had enough trouble scoring as it is this year.
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Well, any trade that sends two second-line forwards for one second-line forward will do that. You’re right to notice that, but look at the expected decrease in goals against when replacing Emery/Leighton/Boucher with Vokoun, plus Weiss with Carter.
I’m not saying you’re wrong at all, but it’s not a net-loss of 34 goals. Plus, you’d be getting a second-line center for three years at the bargain price of $3.1 million, as opposed to having to resign Jeff Carter after next year for more than his current $5 million price tag. For those that want a shake-up, this trade would do it.
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by Geoff Detweiler on May 5, 2010 1:24 PM EDT up reply actions
exactly, plus if we’re using the what-if game, let’s also think about the following hypotheticals:
1. Weiss will probably be matched with better linemates than he currently has, playing a different system, so is it right to assume that he only pots 19 goals (his historical production) or that he scores 25.
2. Weiss for the last 3 years has outscored his opponents, playing the best possible competition. So how many less goals is a shutdown second line center (which Carter is not really) going to give up, meanwhile outscoring any competition vs. him. <<<(i think Geoff already alluded to this)
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by HockeyOutsiders on May 5, 2010 1:33 PM EDT up reply actions
Exactly. Although Derek Zona just told me to stay away from his find (that’s you HO), I can only imagine the possibilities:
Gagne – Richards – Giroux
Leino – Weiss – Briere
or
Gagne – Richards – Carcillo
Briere – Weiss – Giroux
or
Gagne – Richards – Briere
Leino – Weiss – Giroux
or… you get the point.
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by Geoff Detweiler on May 5, 2010 1:36 PM EDT up reply actions
haha, I’ve known about Weiss for a long time. Zona should stay away from my find, because i’ve watched the kid develop for years with my own eyes.
I’d love Weiss to center Briere and Giroux. Weiss would more than make up for Briere and his lack of defense and Giroux and Weiss would be total money.
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by HockeyOutsiders on May 5, 2010 1:42 PM EDT up reply actions
I’m intrigued in his 3 years, $3.1 mil per contract. That’s a steal.
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by Geoff Detweiler on May 5, 2010 1:51 PM EDT up reply actions
considering all his peers are mostly on $5MM+ contracts, definitely.
unfortunately, with the Panthers in a rebuild, I’m assuming that their management is going to want some blue chip prospects for him, something we really don’t have.
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by HockeyOutsiders on May 5, 2010 2:02 PM EDT up reply actions
Yeah. Plus, I don’t know why they’d trade him anyway.
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by Geoff Detweiler on May 5, 2010 2:18 PM EDT up reply actions
because they are stupid?
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by HockeyOutsiders on May 5, 2010 2:21 PM EDT up reply actions
In an absolute heartbeat. Weiss is a monster stuck on a squad of kittens. Vokoun has two or three more incredible years in him….
In a heartbeat.
It seems like you guys are interested in German players!
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by Cornelius Hardenbergh on May 5, 2010 1:55 PM EDT up reply actions
Seidenberg? Love to have him back.
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by Geoff Detweiler on May 5, 2010 1:55 PM EDT up reply actions
I’d trade seidenberg’s re-signing rights for carter
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by Cornelius Hardenbergh on May 5, 2010 1:57 PM EDT up reply actions
Seidenberg is only signed for this year right?
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by HockeyOutsiders on May 5, 2010 1:59 PM EDT up reply actions
Yeah, unfortunately.
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by Cornelius Hardenbergh on May 5, 2010 1:59 PM EDT up reply actions
In case anybody wants to know, there are cheap seats for tonight’s game game on stub hub available. I just bought section 207 for $30.
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by Cornelius Hardenbergh on May 5, 2010 12:54 PM EDT up reply actions
The drive from Boston area to Philly is not fun.
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How easy is it to get from the airport to the arena?
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by Cornelius Hardenbergh on May 5, 2010 1:16 PM EDT up reply actions
It’s not too bad. About 20 minutes if traffic isn’t too heavy.
Do you see what happens when you find a stranger in the Alps?
20 minutes from getting off the plane and into the arena? Cause driving from the airport to the parking lot probably takes about 10.
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by Geoff Detweiler on May 5, 2010 1:28 PM EDT up reply actions
If I had an extra $6-700 lying around I’d be cutting out of work early and see you guys there.
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by Cornelius Hardenbergh on May 5, 2010 1:33 PM EDT up reply actions
haha, Southwest man! They’re so much cheaper.
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by Geoff Detweiler on May 5, 2010 1:37 PM EDT up reply actions
southwest doesn’t fly out of logan yet, I don’t think
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by Cornelius Hardenbergh on May 5, 2010 1:38 PM EDT up reply actions
I thought I saw an ad on one of the buses here. Hm.
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by Geoff Detweiler on May 5, 2010 1:42 PM EDT up reply actions
Published scheduled service between (Boston – BOS) and (Philadelphia – PHL) does not begin until 06/27/2010. Please select an alternate date or choose another origination/destination. Please visit the Southwest Airlines interactive route map for alternate choices. (SW100101)
and
What happened?
There is no scheduled service from BOS to PHL on 05/05/2010.
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by Cornelius Hardenbergh on May 5, 2010 1:47 PM EDT up reply actions
Oh, so it’s coming, but not yet available. Got it. That sucks, I love Southwest.
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by Geoff Detweiler on May 5, 2010 1:52 PM EDT up reply actions
Yeah it would be a lot more tempting to fly out if it didn’t cost me so damn much. I am heading out there for a revolution at union game later this year, round trip was like 150
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by Cornelius Hardenbergh on May 5, 2010 1:53 PM EDT up reply actions
Wow, I just checked. Dirt cheap tickets available.
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by Geoff Detweiler on May 5, 2010 1:33 PM EDT up reply actions
Keep in mind the 15 dollar StubHub fee as well, though. Still dirt cheap, but not $30
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by Travis Hughes on May 5, 2010 1:34 PM EDT up reply actions
Oh, really? I had no idea there was that large of a fee…
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by Geoff Detweiler on May 5, 2010 1:37 PM EDT up reply actions
ehh, for a playoff game though. Well worth it for me.
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ok, so cheapest ticket on there right now is 25. plus 15 is 40 bucks.
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by Cornelius Hardenbergh on May 5, 2010 1:42 PM EDT up reply actions
i really wanted to go. that means id have to leave work now, metro home, and try to make it past baltimore by 330.
it ain’t happening. this sucks. if i was in philly i’d be all over this like a drunken bettman on crosby.
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Yep, definitely just picked up tickets. I’m glad I work in South Philly though, because you have to get the tickets from the office at CBP and that place is going to be a zoo tonight.
I thought the office was in the Holiday Inn?
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by Travis Hughes on May 5, 2010 3:00 PM EDT up reply actions
Big game
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