Tuesday Morning Fly By: SBN Philly Launches
by Geoff Detweiler on Jun 22, 2010 10:51 AM EDT
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Today's open discussion thread, complete with your daily dose of Philadelphia Flyers news and notes...
- Don't forget to check out SBN Philly, which launched today: [SBN Philly]
- Join Travis and I for the launch party, details here: [BSH]
- The Flyers began contract talks with Dan Hamhuis yesterday: [CSNPhilly]
- Paul Holmgren spoke to reporters on a range of topics, here's the story: [Flyers]
- He doesn't seem to put too high a priority on the goaltender: [Daily News]
- Another Jeff Carter being traded rumor: [The Hockey News]
- Arron Asham has a bitter taste left in his mouth: [The Daily Graphic]
- The argument for why Eric Lindros belongs in the Hall of Fame: [CSNPhilly] [Daily News]
- What about Adam Oates? [Hockey or Die]
- Flashback to the 1990 NHL draft: [Puck Daddy]
- A Classic Clip from the 1972 regular season finale. Spoiler: Flyers lose. [Sabres]
- The Blackhawks will march with the Stanley Cup in Chicago's Gay Pride Parade: [Puck Daddy]
- Lastly, how do you know you aren't getting drafted by the NHL? [Down Goes Brown]
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So we have all seen what the wonders of a grilled cheese can do for Giroux…but what about this:
Looking forward to the Kevin Kolb era.
5-8-10...the day the Purdue Boilermakers basketball team won the 2011 NCAA Championship!!
The URL for that story is hilarious:
“…friendlys-grilled-cheese-burger-melt-is-coming-for-your-arteries.html”
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by Travis Hughes on Jun 22, 2010 11:02 AM EDT up reply actions
Holy crap. 1500 calories, 97 grams of fat, and 2090 milligrams of sodium. That’s 75% of the calories for a 2000 calorie RDA, with 149% of the fat, 190% of the saturated fat, and 91% of the sodium a person’s supposed to have in a day.
Honor is no substitute for victory.
So? what’s wrong with getting all your calories and sodium for one day, a day and half worth of fat, and two days worth of saturated fat all in one shot?
"Game 7's are tough... It's a game that's made for men and our guys proved to be men today." -Laviolette
by PatterPoet95 on Jun 22, 2010 11:22 AM EDT up reply actions
That’s nothing compared to the blooming onion at Outback Steakhouse. Check out these stats:
2,710 calories, 203 grams (1,827 calories) of fat, 194 grams of carbohydrates, and 6,360 milligrams of sodium, with as much fat as 67 strips of bacon.
"Tortorella’s got it all wrong ... Gaborik shouldn’t be messing with our skilled player." -Peter Luukko
But is that for an entire blooming onion or per serving? I don’t know many people that order an entire one for themselves.
Still, even if you eat half of that, it’s friggin ridiculous amount of calories, fat and sodium.
I bet Man vs. Food would eat it.
"Tortorella’s got it all wrong ... Gaborik shouldn’t be messing with our skilled player." -Peter Luukko
Probably something close to the guy who did “Super Size Me.” That documentary was crazy… made me glad I was a vegetarian.
"Game 7's are tough... It's a game that's made for men and our guys proved to be men today." -Laviolette
by PatterPoet95 on Jun 22, 2010 11:38 AM EDT up reply actions
Wish I could be a vegetarian but I hate vegetables. I’d have to live on pasta and then I’d be the fattest vegetarian on the planet.
"Tortorella’s got it all wrong ... Gaborik shouldn’t be messing with our skilled player." -Peter Luukko
It would be cool if Giroux did some PR work for the Pop Shop in Collingswood.
"Game 7's are tough... It's a game that's made for men and our guys proved to be men today." -Laviolette
by PatterPoet95 on Jun 22, 2010 11:25 AM EDT up reply actions
You all are missing the point…imagine what Giroux could do having just eaten one of these? Assuming he doesn’t puke it back up on the ice/bench.
Looking forward to the Kevin Kolb era.
5-8-10...the day the Purdue Boilermakers basketball team won the 2011 NCAA Championship!!
Or
Have a coronary, or a stroke, or just be unable to move because of the saturated fat in his system…
"Game 7's are tough... It's a game that's made for men and our guys proved to be men today." -Laviolette
by PatterPoet95 on Jun 22, 2010 11:52 AM EDT up reply actions
looks tasty, but as Travis pointed out in the URL, it’s totally true, I’m sure that’ll give you a heart attack if you eat it all at once, but I’d try it once, half one day, the other half in a few days after I work all of it off.
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by Lindbergh 31 on Jun 22, 2010 3:01 PM EDT up reply actions
Someone needs to do a 10 best list of things DGB can do to break out of his slump.
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by TopShelfTony on Jun 22, 2010 12:54 PM EDT up reply actions
I wonder if all the talk about Carter getting traded means a) there is no chance in hell he actually does get traded or b) he’s going to be gone after the weekend.
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by HockeyOutsiders on Jun 22, 2010 11:15 AM EDT reply actions
I hope he won’t be traded but if he is it won’t be for Nathan Horton because he’s just been traded to Boston.
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by TopShelfTony on Jun 22, 2010 1:51 PM EDT up reply actions
maybe it’s just a PR move on the part of the Blackhawks to help make up for the “Pronger is gay” thing in their locker room, but good for them anyway. And especially good for Sopel, his quote in that story shows he’s a terrific person.
Finger not on the Pulse
I thought Oates was in the Hall of Fame already… Go figure.
"Game 7's are tough... It's a game that's made for men and our guys proved to be men today." -Laviolette
dark horse goalie
What is the deal with Josh Harding ??
I heard Anthony San Filippo on 610 WIP mention Josh Harding as a potential draft day goalie for the Flyers. Who is Josh Harding would he be a good fit and can he take over a number 1 job in the NHL?
He is young and his numbers are in the same boat as everyone else and his cap hit should be in the 1 – 2 million dollar area. You guys who know the West Conference how would you fell about Josh Harding starting next year.
I don’t know. The truth is, the Flyers don’t need anyone special in net. They just need someone more consistent than Michael Leighton at “making the saves he needs to make.” If Harding can stay in position and stay square to the shooter (which it would appear Jeff Reese is good at helping goalies with) and not have an exploitable five-hole, plus has a little bit of confidence so that a goal or two against doesn’t knock him off his angles, he could be as good of a choice as anyone, quite frankly. If the Flyers are going to have this excellent defense that most of the time will keep shooters to the outside, they don’t need to overspend on a top-notch goalie. So it could work.
by Ben Feldman on Jun 22, 2010 12:16 PM EDT up reply actions
I’m guilty of it too, but Harding is more of a name than anything. He had one good year (08-09), but two below average years (07-08, 09-10) for a team that’s generally pretty defensive. He’s a gamble, and I’m not convinced he’s any better than the other names we’ve heard.
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by Geoff Detweiler on Jun 22, 2010 12:22 PM EDT up reply actions
His career numbers are pretty good and MIN is so hard to evaluate goaltenders because they are a Defense 1st team. But LeMaire wasn’t there last season and the did as a team allow a 21st ranked 2.92 GA/G. Backstrom got 60 of the 82 starts and he is a stud. Harding actually had a high save percentage than Backstrom by a mere 0.002. So I am not sure if they should be considered a really good defensive team last year.
Harding for his career 82 GP 0.915 SV PCT and 2.66 GAA.
Funny how in that one good year 08-09 he went 12 GP 3W 9L with 0.929 SV PCT and 2.21 GAA.
Geoff where would you rank Harding with the 1B goalies with NHL experience with Ellis, Nitty, Leighton, Biron. And if you had your pick of that stellar bunch who would you take. I think this is route the Flyers are going to take in net a 26-30 RFA backup.
Those numbers are above average, yeah. But like you said, it’s tough to evaluate Minnesota goaltenders.
Of those five goalies, I’d rank them: Ellis, Biron, Harding, Niitty, Leighton.
But I’d probably slot Boucher/Backlund in right around Ellis, Biron. With both of those two signed for next year, I don’t see those five being a big enough upgrade in net. Ellis would be an upgrade, but at what cost? Biron would be an upgrade, but at what cost? Harding, I’m not even sure if it is an upgrade. Niitty is too injury prone and inconsistent (if he could only get it together…) and Leighton, we know how I feel about him.
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by Geoff Detweiler on Jun 22, 2010 1:28 PM EDT up reply actions
If Nitty could be consistent, especially with his angles, I would put him above everyone else on that list. Unfortunately he seems to be what he is, and I would agree with that grouping. There really isn’t much separating Ellis/Biron/Harding/Nitty. The only thing is, it’s hard to say what to expect from Harding if he is handed the reigns, he may become dominant, he may be terrible, or he could be right in the middle of that pack like he is now. I view Ellis/Biron as upgrades to Boucher/Backland, and Harding/Nitty are most likely upgrades depending on what you get. But it comes down to cost. How many wins will any of them get the Flyers, and how much more will they cost for those additional wins.
Shrink that to the $950-$1.5 range and I agree. Maybe not Ellis, but he falls in your range at least.
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by Geoff Detweiler on Jun 22, 2010 2:27 PM EDT up reply actions
Exactly
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by Geoff Detweiler on Jun 22, 2010 2:27 PM EDT up reply actions
Looks like Tallon and Chiarelli finally pulled the trigger on Horton to Boston…
And is Marc Savard going to FLA?
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by TopShelfTony on Jun 22, 2010 1:53 PM EDT up reply actions
Dunno yet. Dreger says it’s Horton and another Panther for one Bruin, so Lucic, Krejci, Savard, Chara are the only Bruins I can see going back. Seriously doubt the Bruins would trade Bergeron.
Do you think they really would move Chara? Wouldn’t one of the other three be more likely?
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by Orange and Black Forever on Jun 22, 2010 1:57 PM EDT up reply actions
OK – I see. :)
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by Orange and Black Forever on Jun 22, 2010 2:00 PM EDT up reply actions
I heard it was Horton and another player for Savard.
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by TopShelfTony on Jun 22, 2010 1:58 PM EDT up reply actions
Horton and Campbell for Wideman, 15th overall pick and another draft pick. Yeah, I think Tallon’s going to basically rebuild from scratch.
That Tallon is a player in every sense of the word. Almost as good as that guy in Tampa, right?
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by TopShelfTony on Jun 22, 2010 2:04 PM EDT up reply actions
And Quinn’s been kicked upstairs in Edmonton for Renney? Too bad the Oilers weren’t in the EC, they won’t go anywhere again this year.
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by TopShelfTony on Jun 22, 2010 2:15 PM EDT up reply actions
It’s a shame to think that we may have seen the last of Quinn coaching. Who would have thought 30 years ago he wouldn’t win even one Stanley Cup!
by Ben Feldman on Jun 22, 2010 2:17 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Nathan Horton on being traded from Florida:
“I’m not saying anything bad about the organization, but there have been five coaches in the time I’ve been there. Now, I’m going to a stable, historic organization. I’m going to give it all I’ve got. I think it’ll be good.”
Bruins have got to be hoping he was holding a lot back. Florida’s got to be thinking good riddance after hearing that.
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by TopShelfTony on Jun 22, 2010 4:49 PM EDT up reply actions
Why? Flordia is exhibit A for NHL over-expansion.
"Game 7's are tough... It's a game that's made for men and our guys proved to be men today." -Laviolette
by PatterPoet95 on Jun 22, 2010 5:34 PM EDT up reply actions
So a guy getting that kind of $ should dog it?
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by TopShelfTony on Jun 22, 2010 8:52 PM EDT up reply actions
I don’t really consider that “dogging it” and my point really is if he said something to the affect of “This is both a happy and sad day for me. Happy because I am looking forward to the challenge of playing in a organization with the history and prestige of the Boston Bruins. Sad because I’m leaving a city I love with a loyal and passionate fan-base and a great organization dedicated to winning.” It wouldn’t be bullshit; it would be BULLSHIT.
He’s really stuck because the best he could do is say nothing and athletes do not get away with that.
And I don’t agree that his statement necessarily means that he wasn’t leaving out on the ice every night. I can’t really say either way because I haven’t seen him play much.
"Game 7's are tough... It's a game that's made for men and our guys proved to be men today." -Laviolette
by PatterPoet95 on Jun 22, 2010 9:02 PM EDT up reply actions
"Now, I’m going...to give it all I’ve got." = "I wasn't giving it my best." = "dogging it" IMO
Yeah, I hear you. It was the “Now, I’m going to a stable, historic organization. I’m going to give it all I’ve got.” that had me PO’d. That stable, historic organization got that way and stayed that way because guys always gave it all they had. The Bruins weren’t such a fabulous place to play when Orr got there. This guy’s no inexperienced kid — he’s averaged 70 games a year for 6 NHL seasons. I mean, he’s had a microphone or two in his face a couple of times, right? And he knew he was traded well before he gave the quote. And he couldn’t say, “I asked Dale Tallon to trade me and he did. I’m looking forward to showing my team mates and the Bruins fans my best effort. That’s one historic original six franchise.”? Instead he tells them he only gives it all he’s got when he feels like it? I think his new team mates heard that loud and clear.
January 11, 1976
by TopShelfTony on Jun 22, 2010 9:43 PM EDT up reply actions
Why? Flordia is exhibit A for NHL over-expansion.
If they’re Exhibit A, then Exhibits B, C, D, E, and F are Nashville, Colorado, Atlanta, the Islanders, and Phoenix, all of which have worse attendance (and all except Nashville are worse in both absolute numbers and percentage of seats filled).
Honor is no substitute for victory.
I actually would have put Phoenix as exhibit A if it wasn’t for the fact that technically they were moved, same could be said for Colorado I guess but I am surprised that the Avalanche have poor attendance…
"Game 7's are tough... It's a game that's made for men and our guys proved to be men today." -Laviolette
by PatterPoet95 on Jun 23, 2010 11:32 AM EDT up reply actions
Thought it couldn’t be Savard or who would feed Horton — that wouldn’t have made sense. Do the Bruins go after Boychuk now — what are the cap implications?
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by TopShelfTony on Jun 22, 2010 2:07 PM EDT up reply actions
Boston traded away 3.875m in cap hit. They got back 4.000m and an unsigned RFA who made $800k (cap hit of $762k) last year.
Honor is no substitute for victory.
Thanks Dark. So not any better a picture for the Bruins to go after Boychuk, in fact not as good? If so, good news for the Flyers — I still think Boychuk is going to be a very good player for somebody and it might as well be us.
January 11, 1976
by TopShelfTony on Jun 22, 2010 2:13 PM EDT up reply actions
With the trade, they’re at $50.453m, with 8 forwards, 4 defensemen, and 2 goalies. They can probably keep Stuart around his current salary, since he’s RFA, but they need a lot more forwards. Boychuk, being UFA, is more of a question mark. If they can come to terms with Yuri Alexandrov and bring him over from Cherepovets, he might be worth bringing straight to the third pairing and PP.
Honor is no substitute for victory.
I don’t get the feeling they’re done dealing if only for the cap/forwards point you make.
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by TopShelfTony on Jun 22, 2010 2:28 PM EDT up reply actions
If I’m Boston, I’m looking to move Chara, Ryder, or Thomas. Chara’s an UFA at the end of this year, and is the highest-paid player with a $7.5m hit. Yes, he’s a great defenseman, but that also makes him a good piece to deal. Ryder is also an UFA after this year, at a $4m cap hit. You don’t want to move Bergeron or Lucic, and Savard’s deal out to age 40 makes him undesirable to a lot of teams. Thomas has a $5m hit, and may be on the downward slope. Replacing him with Rask and calling up Regan as Rask’s backup would clear a good amount of cap space.
Honor is no substitute for victory.
My guess would be they’d prefer to move Ryder and Thomas if they can and enjoy at least one more year of Chara. Do you think Chara’s cap hit would make him as undesirable as Savard’s deal makes him?
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by TopShelfTony on Jun 22, 2010 2:40 PM EDT up reply actions
Apparently they’ve been flogging Savard around the league since they lost out in the playoffs. I find that hard to believe: who’s going to feed Horton if there’s no Savard? Maybe they changed their minds when they saw they could get Horton?
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by TopShelfTony on Jun 22, 2010 8:56 PM EDT up reply actions
The $ work on C for C?
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by TopShelfTony on Jun 22, 2010 9:25 PM EDT up reply actions
Only if we’re willing to use a very ugly lineup:
2010-11 PHILADELPHIA FLYERS
CAPGEEK.COM CAP CALCULATOR
FORWARDS
Simon Gagne ($5.250m) / Mike Richards ($5.750m) / James Van Riemsdyk ($1.654m)
Scott Hartnell ($4.200m) / Daniel Briere ($6.500m) / Ville Leino ($0.800m)
Stefan Legein ($0.817m) / Ian Laperriere ($1.167m) / Claude Giroux ($0.822m)
Riley Cote ($0.550m) / Blair Betts ($0.700m) / Patrick Maroon ($0.528m)
DEFENSEMEN
Chara, Zdeno ($7.500m) / Chris Pronger ($4.921m)
Kimmo Timonen ($6.333m) / Dan Hamhuis ($4.000m)
Matt Carle ($3.438m) / Braydon Coburn ($3.000m)
GOALTENDERS
Brian Boucher ($0.925m) / Johan Backlund ($0.800m)
CAPGEEK.COM TOTALS
(these totals are compiled using the bonus cushion)
ROSTER: 20; CAP:$59.0m; PAYROLL: $59.655m; CAP ROOM: $0.120m BONUSES: $0.775m
Honor is no substitute for victory.
Thanks Dark. Oh well TTF, what a shutdown pair Pronger would've made. Dreaming's free.
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by TopShelfTony on Jun 23, 2010 11:48 AM EDT up reply actions
Pronger-Chara
Timonen-Carle
Hamhuis-Coburn
A sight to behold, but $ don’t work out, we can’t spend that much on D.
by PursuitOfLappyness on Jun 23, 2010 4:33 AM EDT up reply actions
And does DT keep the pick or package it/trade it to move up? He’s a smooth operator, I wouldn’t be surprised if he moved up.
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by TopShelfTony on Jun 22, 2010 2:10 PM EDT up reply actions
I think FLA is going for a quantity thing to rebuild. They might be going after Kovy or Marleau now Tallon has a thing for big tickey UFA’s like Campbell and Hossa.
And look where that got him…Florida. Think he’ll try to move up?
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by TopShelfTony on Jun 22, 2010 2:18 PM EDT up reply actions
I don’t think ownership in Florida is able/willing to spend on a big-ticket UFA like that given their rebuilding state.
That’s why I was thinking he might package #15 with a player to move up.
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by TopShelfTony on Jun 22, 2010 2:22 PM EDT up reply actions
DeBoer on Tallon:
“He knows what he wants the roster to look like. It’s not going to happen overnight, but he’s going to be bold and get there sooner than later.’’
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by TopShelfTony on Jun 22, 2010 2:56 PM EDT up reply actions
I could almost see Florida flipping that pick for a pair of lower picks – a later first rounder and a second rounder, perhaps. They’ve got a full team right now (actually 11 forwards, 7 defensemen, and 2 goalies, but they have 3 RFA forwards in Kreps, McArdle, and Tarnasky) and are waaaaaaay under the cap. Picking up more prospects might be a goal for them, to stock up for a couple years down the road. They’re not going to be challenging for the Cup next year, so getting as many guys in the system as possible would make sense.
Honor is no substitute for victory.
Ben was doubting ownership’s willingness to spend. In light of that who knows?
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by TopShelfTony on Jun 22, 2010 2:32 PM EDT up reply actions
I think they want to clean house before spending on new players. They’ll be willing to spend once they’ve got a decent core put together, but without a solid foundation, there’s no point in paying for star players.
Honor is no substitute for victory.
Tallon’ll certainly liven things up and the deals he makes will likely have some domino effects as well. I’d love to see him move way up with that pick and maybe a player or use one/some of his other 4 top 50 picks. Watch and wait I guess.
Interesting that Plekanec gets what’s believed to be six years, $30 million with an annual cap hit of $5 million. There aren’t a lot of centers around. Think they overpaid?
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by TopShelfTony on Jun 22, 2010 4:32 PM EDT up reply actions
damnit! I would have loved to see Horton here…
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by HockeyOutsiders on Jun 22, 2010 2:15 PM EDT up reply actions
He’s got the wheels and the guns, no doubt. Savard’s healthy and it’ll make for a good PP in Beantown to say the least. Rechhi for tips and Chara at the point, yow.
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by TopShelfTony on Jun 22, 2010 2:20 PM EDT up reply actions
PP for sure but Horton I think has been playing center but isn’t he a natural right winger? I thought he was but maybe not.
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by TopShelfTony on Jun 22, 2010 2:30 PM EDT up reply actions
Horton’s a winger, RW to be exact
He played on the RW, Weiss was the C and Booth was LW
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by HockeyOutsiders on Jun 22, 2010 2:31 PM EDT up reply actions
That’s what I thought. Was it that he was playing center when Weiss was out?
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by TopShelfTony on Jun 22, 2010 2:33 PM EDT up reply actions
not sure, but FL had a ton of centers, Horton wasn’t one of them. Maybe it was Frolik or Olesz or Reinprecht…I don’t think it was Horton though.
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by HockeyOutsiders on Jun 22, 2010 2:41 PM EDT up reply actions
I think you’re right on that. I didn’t see many Panther games but I had Weiss in my pool so I noted what went on when he was out of course.
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by TopShelfTony on Jun 22, 2010 2:43 PM EDT up reply actions
It was for 08-09 if my googling skills are adequate. They moved him to center before the season (not sure how long he lasted there that season), he didn’t like it, too many defensive responsibilities.
Thank you. I had a better memory than I thought. Longer, too.
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by TopShelfTony on Jun 22, 2010 2:52 PM EDT up reply actions
they did experiment with it, but he was awful and from my memory, he didn’t last long at all at that position.
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by HockeyOutsiders on Jun 22, 2010 2:58 PM EDT up reply actions
Act 2 - GIVE US VOKOUN.
pretty please.
by bleedorangewhiteblack on Jun 22, 2010 2:16 PM EDT up reply actions
No chance we could never afford him now with Hamhuis start thinking great defense with a cheap goalie.
then whos gonna move people in the crease?
by HankMonahan on Jun 22, 2010 11:04 PM EDT up reply actions
Panthers now have 5 picks in 1st 3 rounds NEXT year. 5 in top 51 this weekend.
So Tallon can rebuild and move up and bring in UFA’s ($ allowing). Nice position to deal from.
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He just needs to make sure he knows where the mailroom is.
by Ben Feldman on Jun 22, 2010 2:38 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
not nice but +1 anyways…
"Game 7's are tough... It's a game that's made for men and our guys proved to be men today." -Laviolette
by PatterPoet95 on Jun 22, 2010 2:40 PM EDT up reply actions
Ooooo low blow. A bit cheap, but a direct hit nonetheless.
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by TopShelfTony on Jun 22, 2010 2:41 PM EDT up reply actions
Well, he is a Philly fan, after all.
"Tortorella’s got it all wrong ... Gaborik shouldn’t be messing with our skilled player." -Peter Luukko
Philly fans don’t take cheap shots or resort to low blows. Are you imouning Ben’s honor here, or Philly fans’?
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by TopShelfTony on Jun 22, 2010 2:46 PM EDT up reply actions
I was being sarcastic—just mocking those that say all of our players take cheap shots, so vis a vis the fans must do so, too. We are all barbarians, dontcha know?
"Tortorella’s got it all wrong ... Gaborik shouldn’t be messing with our skilled player." -Peter Luukko
Oh yes, I knew that. You’ll be surprised to know I was mocking you for mocking us.
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by TopShelfTony on Jun 22, 2010 4:26 PM EDT up reply actions
edit impuning not imouning
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by TopShelfTony on Jun 22, 2010 2:49 PM EDT up reply actions
it’s easy to get distracted here in FL as well…haha, nice one.
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by HockeyOutsiders on Jun 22, 2010 2:59 PM EDT up reply actions
OT but the Phillies just DFA’d Greg Dobbs, activated Rollins and put Ruiz on the DL.
Can’t wait until Dobbs gets picked up by the Mets and beats the shit out of us on a regular basis. /negadelphia’d
I just have a bad feeling about this season; it’s Murphy’s Law out of control.
"Tortorella’s got it all wrong ... Gaborik shouldn’t be messing with our skilled player." -Peter Luukko
Me too
The Phils have been a very good team over the last two years, and have had most everything go “right” for them over the past three. The trend is bound to reverse at some point… and to me, “some point” is now.
They would not have lost a game like Saturday’s last year or two years ago, that’s for sure.
Do you see what happens when you find a stranger in the Alps?
BREAKING NEWS: Post has learned NHLPA votes YES on 5-percent cap escalator and extending CBA
Great news for the Flyers. That $2.8 million will help a lot. Good news for the league on the CBA extension (even if it’s just for one year).
so Pronger has to play 2 more good seasons before we get a free buy-out that is the CBA expiring, the NHL locking out and the salaries being rolled back again…nice
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by HockeyOutsiders on Jun 22, 2010 3:13 PM EDT up reply actions
That is great news, more cap room! Now with that I see Hamhuis getting signed most definitely, Coburn getting re-signed, and I don’t feel like we will have to be worrying about the cap so much. I just hope that number is right.
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by Lindbergh 31 on Jun 22, 2010 3:15 PM EDT up reply actions
It’ll never happen. The players just screwed themselves!
Oh, and JVR sucks.
/Colbert’d
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by Geoff Detweiler on Jun 22, 2010 5:11 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
A side note...
BREAKING NEWS: Post has learned NHLPA votes YES on 5-percent cap escalator and extending CBA
Great news for the Flyers. That $2.8 million will help a lot. Good news for the league on the CBA extension (even if it’s just for one year).
Does this help out the B’hawks much?
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by Orange and Black Forever on Jun 22, 2010 5:41 PM EDT up reply actions
A little, but not much. Not as much as the Flyers anyway. The Hawks are still a long way off getting a team under the cap.
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Good…oh, I mean, too bad. ;)
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by Orange and Black Forever on Jun 22, 2010 5:54 PM EDT up reply actions
Helps us
but also every other team in the league. Especially those pesky Blackhawks who are no longer above next season’s cap if this goes ahead. I was looking forward to seeing them try and bring their team down by 2 million while adding 8 players.
by PursuitOfLappyness on Jun 23, 2010 4:36 AM EDT up reply actions
Also:
Hawks telling teams that price for Byfuglien is a first-round pick and a prospect
Good luck with that.
That’s laughable. :)
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by Orange and Black Forever on Jun 22, 2010 5:55 PM EDT up reply actions
That’s a bit sad, but not a major surprise.
#1 Flyers fan in England (originally from Southeastern PA)
by Orange and Black Forever on Jun 22, 2010 5:55 PM EDT up reply actions
Meaning about Nabby…
#1 Flyers fan in England (originally from Southeastern PA)
by Orange and Black Forever on Jun 22, 2010 5:55 PM EDT up reply actions
Hey, if he wants to take a SERIOUS pay cut and play behind a great defense he is more than welcome in Philadelphia. Won’t happen obviously.
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by Mitchell Green on Jun 22, 2010 6:18 PM EDT up reply actions
He could go to the Flyers to prove that all those playoff failures weren’t his fault. Or not and ruin all chances we have of winning the cup
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From Battle of California
Kings Looking to Hire John Stevens?
Pretty interesting stuff really.
New Zealand's 4th best Philadelphia Flyers fan
L.A. Times said he was offered an Asistant job.
Man-crushin' on Boucher since 1999
Broad Street Hockey - Makin' it look mean since 1967.
by Geoff Detweiler on Jun 22, 2010 9:49 PM EDT up reply actions
I particulary liked this part about the former defensive coach;
He had some faults (playing Randy Jones so much, for one)
You think Stevens would play him any less?
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haha, I just said as much in the comments.
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Broad Street Hockey - Makin' it look mean since 1967.
by Geoff Detweiler on Jun 22, 2010 9:59 PM EDT up reply actions
Great minds (although this one was kinda obvious). Maybe all those people formerly associated with the Flyers can influence a trade for Bernier
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It's all actually a plot
We take over their front office…and then….BAM…LA Kings become Flyers’ farm team to go along with Nashville.
by PursuitOfLappyness on Jun 23, 2010 4:38 AM EDT up reply actions
As long as he plays more minutes than Scuderi
by PursuitOfLappyness on Jun 23, 2010 4:39 AM EDT up reply actions
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