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The UFA goalie market

Holmgren is clearly making an effort to get a goalie before July 1 when free agency starts. This seems like a good idea so that no one else has a chance on signing the goalie that he wants for the Flyers next year. However, to me it looks like a buyers market this year as far as goalies go. Despite there not being a lot of talent, there are even less places for them to find positions.


After the jump I break down the UFA goalies we might want here, and potential teams that could be trying to get them before the Flyers can. Everything is based on my opinion from looking at the rosters on CapGeek and a little bit of knowledge of what teams have in their farm systems. If you think I'm wrong or way of the board, let me know. I also decided not to include any numbers, because I think everyone knows the different levels of goaltending without having to resort to using stats that half the BSH population don't/can't/won't understand.

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Turco, Nabokov, Theodore, Mason, Ellis, Biron are all probably looking for starting positions (also Toskala, but I don't see any teams that dumb).

For the right price, I would be OK with Turco, Nabokov or Ellis  (perhaps even Biron or Mason) as starters next year for the Flyers.

 

Hedberg, Auld, Lalime, Montoya, MacDonald, Dubielewicz, Leighton, Nittymaki, Legace, Raycroft, are going to either want to be 1B or backups.

None of these guys are really suitable for Philadelphia (sorry Leighton-lovers), but their presence helps the Flyers by giving other teams cheaper back-up options than the starters we are looking for.

 



Teams (IMO) that are/could be looking for a starter:

Flyers - everyone knows the story

Oilers -they have huge money in Khabby but I haven't heard what his story is recently. In any case, their tandem last season of Dubnyk and Droiun-Deslauriers are both RFAs and certainly could use and upgrade. I'm not sure if they have the cap room to make a play for a legit #1 either.

Tampa Bay - is Mike Smith a true number 1? They might want an established starter or someone to tandem with Smith

Sharks - take them out of the Nabokov sweepstakes, but they are a contender that could take our number 1 in Turco or Ellis.

Seriously, I don't see anyone else needing a starter. I could be wrong but I think I'm pretty close.

 

 

Teams that are/could be looking for a 1A/backup:

Montreal - if Price signs, they might look for someone to bail him out.

Flames  - I don't think they have anyone, but whoever they get won't play many more than 15 games.

Devils - Danis is a UFA so unless he resigns they could be looking for someone cheap to play behind Brodeur

Thrashers  - Pavelec should be resigned and could be ready for #1 duty but could use an experienced backup like they had with Hedberg.

Islanders - Have Roloson and Dipietro on contract, but neither of them are examples of good health in net.

Rangers - cheap option to play behind Lundqvist

Sabres - cheap option to play behind Miller

Hurricanes - they are paying Ward a lot ($6.3 million) so are probably looking for a cheap backup

Predators - cheap option to play behind Rinne (not Ellis!)

Stars - backup for Lehtonen

 

That's it as far as I can see. 3 or 4 teams with question marks for starters, 10 teams with established starters looking for a cheap backup option. It appears to be a buyers market for goalies this season. That is why Nabokov's and Turco's reaction to Homer kind of surprises me. They could end up in a Biron-type situation where they want a lot of money to play as starters, but can't find a job and have to take serious cuts just to get a paycheck.

I'm actually not afraid of Holmgren being able to make a move that doesn't jeopardise the cap for years to come, whilst still obtaining a decent goalie. But who knows, they could all go play for Yzerman in Tampa Bay.

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Before I was concerned we wouldn’t be able to get a good goaltender because I thought the market was thin. But with this post it really shows me that 4 (maybe 1 more, but not a lot of) teams looking for a starter, and there are IMO 5 proven starters on the list (Turco, Nabokov, Theodore, Mason, Biron). Not so sure about Ellis but I think if he was behind our defense he’ll do just fine. If no other team is in the market for a starter, they’ll be waiting around awhlie and want a larger contract than they’ll be getting from whomever signs them (good for us). I’m hoping that Nabokov won’t get any offers and will end up taking a lower version of whatever we offered him over the weekend. If not him, I’d want Mason next, followed by Biron or Ellis. Biron wasn’t bad for us at all, and we have a much better defense now, so he may play well, plus he has the ability to steal a game or two like the Montreal series, and he would be pretty cheap I think. Ellis from what I’ve read isn’t all too bad, but I don’t know if he can handle being #1.

We’ll see what happens come Thursday (I think Homer will make a splash on the first day), but I am not worried about being able to get a good netminder for a good price this offseason, giving us enough room to sign whomever we need to fill the gaps, and hopefully carry 2-3M of cap space into the season.

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by Lindbergh 31 on Jun 29, 2010 1:10 AM EDT reply actions  

I can see Homer going for a goalie on July 1 itself, but it might be smarter to wait. We saw what happened with Biron last year, he went in asking too much and ended up getting very little. Homer could probably save a lot on the cap if he doesn’t chase the goalie but lets the goalie come to him. Say the Sharks and Tampa grab their guy early. Edmonton isn’t a very appealing destination. That might leave a number of goalies looking for starting jobs and seeing only Philly, which gives us all the cards.

However, the longer we go into July without a goalie, the more restlessness there will be, because we don’t want to end up having the Boucher-Backlund combo in net next season.

by PursuitOfLappyness on Jun 29, 2010 1:23 AM EDT reply actions  

Your describing the field of battle perfectly.

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by Prometheus74 on Jun 29, 2010 2:00 AM EDT up reply actions  

I think the longer they hold out the better. In front of the D the Flyers have, I’d be okay with any of the options. Wait, let the market drop, then pick one up (like you said, let the goalies come to him). In the mean time, pick up that 4/5 DMan.

by DLJr on Jun 29, 2010 8:54 AM EDT up reply actions  

Very true. I think that time and the market is favorable to the Flyers as there aren’t many teams looking for starting goalies and a ton of them out there with only a few proven starters (Nabby, Turco, Theo, Biron, Mason). I think that if Tampa or Atlanta act quickly and don’t go for Nabby then Nabby will take a deal from the Flyers if they haven’t acted yet. Waiting will hopefully work out in getting Nabby to lower his price. I think if all options fail Flyers will resign Leights

by historywillbemade on Jun 29, 2010 2:01 PM EDT up reply actions  

I agree. I also think that Leighton wouldn’t mind being Plan C, D, E, F, etc.

Homer will get his goaltender at his price, whoever that turns out to be.

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by Orange and Black Forever on Jun 29, 2010 2:04 PM EDT up reply actions  

I have a feeling that everyone will be making runs at the other options and Nabakov gets left out. I think he’s asking for more than teams are willing to spend. And the other goalies available are pretty good.

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by Mike B on D on Jun 30, 2010 1:35 AM EDT reply actions  

So signing Leighton early (as may currently be happening) doesn’t quite make sense.

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by Bud in TN on Jun 30, 2010 2:33 PM EDT up reply actions  

and look what happened other teams looked elsewhere and Nabby is w/o a job while the Flyers are stuck with Leights in net

by historywillbemade on Jul 2, 2010 3:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

Gosh damn reading all this again after the Leighton signing, how wrong was I?

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by ToddtheFox on Jul 1, 2010 1:56 AM EDT reply actions  

It happens – don’t worry about it.

Maybe we’ll snag Ellis anyway – there’s a possibility.

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by Orange and Black Forever on Jul 1, 2010 9:05 AM EDT up reply actions  

That’s it as far as I can see. 3 or 4 teams with question marks for starters, 10 teams with established starters looking for a cheap backup option. It appears to be a buyers market for goalies this season. That is why Nabokov’s and Turco’s reaction to Homer kind of surprises me. They could end up in a Biron-type situation where they want a lot of money to play as starters, but can’t find a job and have to take serious cuts just to get a paycheck.

Right!

I’m actually not afraid of Holmgren being able to make a move that doesn’t jeopardise the cap for years to come, whilst still obtaining a decent goalie.

Horribly, horribly wrong.

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by ToddtheFox on Jul 2, 2010 6:15 PM EDT reply actions  

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