With help from a friend, Giroux tips home OT winner as Flyers win Stanley Cup Final Game 3
by Travis Hughes on Jun 3, 2010 1:17 AM EDT
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PHILADELPHIA -- They never make it easy, do they? After taking the lead in the first period on a Danny Briere goal, Chicago would come back to tie the game in the second. They took another lead on a Scott Hartnell goal, and Chicago fought right back to the the score on a goal by Brent Sopel of all people.
Then, at the start of the third period, the Blackhawks would actually take a lead, putting the game seriously in doubt amidst Flyers faithful and absolutely silencing the once-deafening Wachovia Center crowd. True to form, however, as this entire series has gone, the home team fought back. Ville Leino tied the score just 20 seconds later on what would eventually send the game to overtime after yet another incredible third period by the Flyers.
Perhaps it was all meant to be. Claude Giroux was taking a nap earlier today when he got a call from an old friend. That friend told him that he'd score the game-winner in overtime tonight, believe it or not. Maybe it was just meant to unfold this way, because that's just kind of magical.
Then again, this entire Flyers season has been magical. We don't need to go through all of the reasons why; we know them by heart by now. Everybody in the Wachovia Center tonight knows them. This team, as frustrating as they've been all season long, has proven in this playoff run that they know how to win. They know how to fight.
It doesn't matter that they got virtually nothing out of their top line for a third straight night. It doesn't matter that the third defensive pairing completely regressed tonight. It doesn't matter that Brent freakin' Sopel scored a fluky goal in the closing moments of the second period. It didn't matter when Patrick Kane gave Chicago the lead, it didn't matter when they put and it doesn't matter that they had a goal disallowed in overtime (right call, by the way).
It clearly didn't matter that Claude Giroux had a rough few games leading up to tonight, either.
With the cards completely stacked against them as usual, the Flyers didn't panic. They were calm and collected, just like always, and as Danny Briere said after the game, "there was no doubt in my mind that we'd get it done tonight." Nothing matters to this team except fighting hard on their way toward history.
It's not a guarantee that they're going to win the Stanley Cup, of course, this team should never be counted out of anything ever again. Tonight's victory was just the latest evidence of that fact.
After the jump, a few loose ends ends from a wild day and night in South Philadelphia, as well as the usual fare: questions with answers and the comment of the night.
- Tonight's crowd of 20,297 is the largest crowd to watch hockey in Wachovia Center history and in Pennsylvania history, according to the Flyers. It surpasses the previous record, recorded during Game 1 between the Flyers and Red Wings on May 31, 1997. I thought that Game 4 of the Calder Cup Finals in 2005 was the record, but I apparently was wrong. Also, it seems tough for this record to have been broken tonight given the amount of media seating that covered actual seats, but I imagine they really crammed in the standing room.
- How incredible was Ville Leino tonight? By far the best Flyer on the ice, Leino dipsy-doodled his way through the Blackhawks all night long, pacing his linemates, Danny Briere and Scott Hartnell, with his magnificent play. In the locker room after the game, Ian Laperriere shouted over to him "Detroit should've traded Datsyuk instead of you."
- Speaking of Laperriere, he took off the full shield tonight and wore a half visor.
- Tonight's win was their first in the Cup Final since 1987.
- As mentioned above, Jeff Carter had a rough game tonight. He was just very sloppy all over the ice, as were his linemates, Mike Richards and Simon Gagne. In fact, besides a short span on the power play in the second period, Richards was pretty invisible throughout the game.
- Chicago does a really strong job of clearing the porch in front of Antti Niemi. The Flyers weren't able to penetrate the slot at all tonight -- except on the winning goal, really -- and as a resuly
- Throughout the third period, which was dominated by the Flyers, the Wach was very, very quiet. Understandably, there was a ton of nervous energy in the air tonight. All was released when the Flyers scored in overtime -- until that one was called back. It turned to anger, then a bit more hope, and then euphoria as Giroux's goal found the net.
- Apparently Darroll Powe picked up the puck and handed it to Giroux. That's what people here have been saying, at least.
Questions to Answer
- Will the Flyers score the all important first goal and dictate the pace throughout? They scored the first goal and dictated the pace for most of the game, but scoring first against Chicago doesn't seem to matter.
- Can they harness the energy of the crowd properly? I thought so. The building was rocking pre-game and there was a lot of positive energy early on and especially before the game. Chicago had a good start but the Flyers used the crowd to propel them a bit, it seemed.
- Does the top line get on the board tonight? No.
- Will Oskars Bartulis have another sound game, giving the Flyers vital, effective minutes from the third pairing? He only played a handful of minutes. Not sure why, didn't seem like he did anything to warrant a benching from my view.
- For the love of God, can they shoot high on Antti Niemi? Seems like they were trying. Lot of high, rising shots that missed the net, though.
- Can the Wach crowd beat the United Center crowd in decibel level? Nope, but there are less people here and the acoustics could be different. That said, I've heard the building louder than it was tonight. I have a feeling it will be better come Friday night. More reason for optimism.
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Shit.
It’s 4:15 a.m. here.
I’m staying up to celebrate!
Off to bed now with a smile on my face! 4.13am!
Awarded to a commenter who best displays perseverance and dedication to the FLYERS.
Some video and stuff later, maybe in the morning. About to get kicked out of the Wach by the cleaning crews, for now...
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Corsi tells me Leino was amazing tonight. Corsi of 14 when the team Corsi was 3. Next highest was Asham with 3.
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We robbed the Red Wings blind. Blind, I say!
"Tortorella’s got it all wrong ... Gaborik shouldn’t be messing with our skilled player." -Peter Luukko
Leino was the Red WIngs Upshall. They needed the cap space to get their big guns back in the lineup coming back from injury. Leino has a one-way deal so he couldn’t be sent down without clearing waivers. The got something for him that could be sent down in OKT ie nobody was going to claim and who cares and a 5th round pick. FInally the cap worked in our favor.
However Flyers fans never suggested Upshall would be future HoF. Red Wings fans did think of Leino in that amazingly high regard.
by PursuitOfLappyness on Jun 3, 2010 5:23 AM EDT up reply actions
Shit do they have anyone else like Leino but who is a D-man that they thinks sucks. I say Parent, Cote, a Tasteycakes sampler and some dryer lint might do the trick. It’s about what we gave up for Leino.
I wouldn't give up on Parent just yet
He’s played top D pairing minutes before when he used to be partnered with Kimmo and wasn’t terrible. He was expected to excel against lesser competition after the acquisition of Pronger but his back injury has hurt him. I’m not sure whether it is likely to have a permanent effect, but if not we might see him do well in the future. Also remember we acquired him in the trade that sent Peter Forsberg to Nashville, and at the time he was considered a pretty major prospect.
So basically what I’m saying is I’d rather we just send Syvret, Cote and a 5th round for Detroit’s next future superstar who needs a change of scenery.
by PursuitOfLappyness on Jun 3, 2010 6:05 AM EDT up reply actions
I was really surprised by Leino's play tonight
good for him.
by puppetmasterp on Jun 3, 2010 7:28 AM EDT up reply actions
And amazingly I wasn’t. I was so glad when we traded for him, I am just happy we finally get to see him play on a consistent basis.
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Leino was really amazing. Rewatching the game (cause come on, its the first SCF win in 23 years) and he just dazzled all night. We really need to see more of him. And Giroux too of course.
And just watching the game winning goal, with Giroux winning the face off, which went to Pronger, to Carle, back to Giroux, to Briere, back to Carle, who shot, deflected by Giroux (with Asham backing him up for a rebound)- it really was poetry on ice. Gotta credit Laviolette for that one.
Let's go Flyers!
CLAP CLAP CLAP-CLAP-CLAP
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This was a nice game.
"Tortorella’s got it all wrong ... Gaborik shouldn’t be messing with our skilled player." -Peter Luukko
I think the issue with the top line has much more to due with Keith and Seabrook then the poor play of Richards and Gagne. Keith wins every battle and never misses a pass. Video of Keith and Pronger should be used to teach Defense School at hockey camp. Amazing players with utterly different styles. A tip of the hat to Keith and Seabrook they deserve it.
Carter did turn the puck over a bit too much though along with Carcillo. I want JVR someone suggested only dressing 5 D-Men and keeping both JVR and Carcillo in the lineup. Any thoughts on that. Parent on played like 41 seconds in Game 1 and Bartulis 2:40 or something close to it.
I think Seabrook is the stud of the pairing personally. He doesn’t have Keith’s speed or offensive gifts, but he is the shut down guy of the two of them. He makes the corners miserable, and can punish people physically, dude is just a beast. Pair him with someone like Keith who can make plays with his speed (and I’m not talking offensive, he makes great defensive plays but of his speed), makes a great pass, and joins the rush well, and that pair is just sick.
I’d say drop Carcillo, put in JVR. I’m not against dressing only 5-D, but the way injuries have gone this post season for the Flyers, I’d feel better dressing 6 just in case.
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So here’s one for you :)
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It’s just not the same without a little SCH snark.
Ville Leino: another reason for you to hate Detroit.
See you Friday.
Meh?
Detroit isn’t even really a rival of the Hawks anymore. We hate them because that’s what we’re supposed to do. It’s tradition. Vancouver is the real rival and anyone that knows a thing about the Hawks knows that.
I’ve got all the snark in the world. Fans of other blogs seem pretty upset when I don’t bring it out though, especially when their team loses. Weird, huh?
by Ban on Jun 3, 2010 2:41 AM EDT up reply actions
Flyers need to keep to doing things...
“Big Ville Style!” (Don’t remember if I saw that here or somewhere else, but I love that nickname for Leino. Especially since Will Smith is Philly-born and raised.)
When will our top guns score?
Happy for the win-stressful game. Lenio put in another fantastic game, On the other hand I think Carter had one of his worst games ever. He played awful. I like Carter but last night he really pissed me off almost cost us the game several times.
Hopeful we can do some good in game 4. The Blackhacks are a damn good team. It seems the Flyers really have to play at their extreme best to play them. Thats the way it is in the cup finals I guess. I can’t believe Gagne, Richards and Carter can’t get going…
GO Flyers!
The Blackhawks are
a very very strong defensive team. I think that’s a major reason why Gagne, Richards and Carter have had trouble.
by PursuitOfLappyness on Jun 3, 2010 6:16 AM EDT up reply actions
yes but...
Q’s been messing with out defense a bit, giving Sopel obscene amounts of minutes and breaking up the 2nd d-pair more. It’s really starting to bug the hell out of me b/c Hjalmmerson is usually so solid, but his uncertainty with the mix-up is starting to show (he usually logs all his time with Campbell, not split between Campbell and Sopel). Your replay-goal was the best evidence of that — normally, i say he gets to that puck a split second before, keeps it from crossing the goal line. He did that at least once or twice in game 2…but not last night. Split-second too late. And a little slower on the reflexes in general…SIGH.
by puppetmasterp on Jun 3, 2010 7:33 AM EDT up reply actions
First SCF win in 23 years, whew, that felt good. The team needed a reason to believe that fate had an even temper. Also nice to see Niemi give up a couple goals he could have had and somehow got through, should make him think about things a little bit more. And Carter needs to get his friggin act together. That dude was a turnover machine and it seemed all night like he could not give one shit about it. Broken feet or not, he better wake the hell up. Trying to single handedly take the puck right up the middle of the ice, Come On Man!
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Hartnell Props!
Hartnell has been getting ripped all season long. Deservedly so, but he was everything we could have hoped last night. He was a beast in all areas of the ice. Just wanted to give some kudos to a guy who seems to be getting it, FINALLY!
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Congrats Flyers
great game in general, still kinda bizarre hockey at times (i mean really, i can’t for the life of me remember the last time SOPEL scored….????!!!?!?!!!! my brain just cramped up), but definitely hard-fought.
Is it Friday yet?
Tonight’s crowd of 20,297 is the largest crowd to watch hockey in Wachovia Center history and in Pennsylvania history, according to the Flyers
Suck it Pittsburgh!
until next year when the Caps and Pens play at Heinz field.
Go Go Gadget Gagne
What if Broad Street Didn't Fight Back? History HAS been made. 5-7-10
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But that game will be outside!
More proof that the Penguins only win by cheating… :-p
by hintzy64 on Jun 3, 2010 9:32 AM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
can we start a revolution to boycott this game so the nhl stops(slightly at least) drooling all over these teams??
Decibel Level -- Louder in Philly
I saw the Questions/Answers about sound levels in Chicago/Philly, and it says here that Philly was actually louder…
During Game 2 in Chicago, the loudest the United Center got was 113dB – and that arena had an organist and everything. Blackhawks fans are so delicate.
Flyers fans don’t have the same aural sensitivity as Chicagoans. The crowd hit 114dB right after the Kate Smith/Lauren Hart “God Bless America” collaboration concluded. During warm-ups, the fans welcomed each Blackhawks player with the same deafening, familiar Philly greeting (rhymes with pucks).
Excerpt from:
http://www.philly.com/philly/sports/flyers/20100603_Gonzo___Flyers_fans_bring_the_noise.html#axzz0pnKcZTUS
113dB
Actually its hit 121/122dB in the UC…
That was for this finals...
Game one UC top level 121dB
Game two UC top level 122dB
This has been a stupid pissing contest from the beginning. And I’m not blaming you, Dale, because you didn’t bring it up.
The ear test tells me Chicago was louder. Really, both crowds were similar. Loud at points, nervous at others. Emotionally reactive to pretty much everything.
Sorry Snevik but I'm not in a pissin' contest...
I’m just correcting facts. Couldn’t care less which building was actually louder…
I’m talking about the general invocation of dB level, and it being the most inane story of the series. The only reason I replied to you was because you were at the bottom of the comment chain; I have no problem with you correcting facts. My issue was that it’s being brought up at all.
Agreed I don’t care who’s fans cheer the loudest, I care which team is holding up the cup at the end.
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by PatterPoet95 on Jun 3, 2010 11:23 AM EDT up reply actions
Like I said, I’ve heard the Wachovia Center louder than it was last night. Given the 0-2 nature of the series, I’m not exactly surprised, either.
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by Travis Hughes on Jun 3, 2010 12:23 PM EDT up reply actions
Chalk it up to nervous energy. Things would have been different had the Flyers been up 2-0.
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Precisely.
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by Travis Hughes on Jun 3, 2010 1:09 PM EDT up reply actions
Anyone know what happened to the GWG puck?
Please tell me Pronger got it.
Powe told the reporter on the NHL Network that he saw it lying there and picked it up and gave it to Giroux
by Pocono Flyers Fan on Jun 3, 2010 9:38 AM EDT up reply actions
It Seems Mr. Pronger Has Gotten Their Attention
I popped in at Second City Hockey just to get their take on last nights game and saw this ..“Big Buff may have finally met his match in Pronger, not just physically, but in terms of Machiavellian shamelessness. Unlike previously conquered defensemen such as Weber, Bieksa, and Blake, Captain Elbows don’t give a fuck what the rules are, what people think, what the press writes, what the refs notice or ignore, what his mom thinks. He’s going to slash, hook, pitchfork and cross-check until the refs can no longer turn a blind eye, and guess what, when he gets out of the penalty box, he’s going to come out on his next shift and slash, hook, pitchfork and cross-check even harder. That gap in his front teeth isn’t a genetic accident; it’s bodily proof of the moral abyss in which he exists.”
High praise indeed
by Pocono Flyers Fan on Jun 3, 2010 9:22 AM EDT reply actions 1 recs
WIN
"Game 7's are tough... It's a game that's made for men and our guys proved to be men today." -Laviolette
Thing is I can’t really disagree with any of that. It’s not like it’s a secret, and sometimes it does get a little embarrassing.
Most of the time I’m just thankful he’s on our side now and try to forget the rest.
I can’t figure out for the life of me why you think doing what it takes to win is “embarrasing.”
"Game 7's are tough... It's a game that's made for men and our guys proved to be men today." -Laviolette
Of course it is
His reputation is well earned going both ways (“dirty”/winner). The Flyers knew what they were getting…everyone knows Pronger’s game (including the referees, who seem content to let most of it go).
Put it this way, we all know that, generally speaking, the same people defending Pronger for doing what it takes to win would be flipping out if it was done against the Flyers as a member of the Pens (or Rangers, or Devils) with the same number of non-calls. Just because he’s on our side doesn’t mean I have to like the more blatant infractions.
I think the “dirty” player bit is a tad overblown with Pronger. Does he get away with some hooks, cross checks, elbows? Sure- every decent D-man does (please observe Keith’s slashes on Gagne and Richie last night). Does he do/get away with more than mosty? Maybe- it’s hard to tell objectively what a really blown call is.
But he is not McSorely, Domi, Avery, or any other scum I think of when I hear the word “dirty” player. I think he is more like Stevens than anyone else and while I loath Stevens I never thought of him as a “dirty” player…
"Game 7's are tough... It's a game that's made for men and our guys proved to be men today." -Laviolette
by PatterPoet95 on Jun 3, 2010 10:23 AM EDT up reply actions
Um, I love Pronger. And I’m fairly positive he’s the dirtiest player in the NHL. I wouldn’t say the charge is overblown, so much as, much like Mr. Pronger, we don’t give a shit, and neither would any fan if he played for your team.
When Pronger does something like this then you can call him the dirtiest player in the NHL. Or maybe if he pulls something like this then you can call him a dirty player. Until then lets try to keep the hyperbole in check kthanksbai
"Game 7's are tough... It's a game that's made for men and our guys proved to be men today." -Laviolette
by PatterPoet95 on Jun 3, 2010 11:26 AM EDT up reply actions
Fair point.
I’m sure if I wasn’t so damn lazy I could find more recent incidents without trying or I could just say Steve Downie.
"Game 7's are tough... It's a game that's made for men and our guys proved to be men today." -Laviolette
Or Avery or Biter Ruutu
Honor is no substitute for victory.
I do when it is Avery.
I wasn't even a year old but I stayed up to be outside the Vet with my Dad and Mom when the Phillies won the World Series 1980.
by Christopher A on Jun 3, 2010 11:03 AM EDT up reply actions
Or Colton Orr, and apparently now Marc Savard.
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I think both sides are right.
There are levels of dirty. When I think of a dirty player, I think of Rich Pilon, whose only job in life seemed to be diving at people’s knees, which Pronger assuredly does not do. He’s never (to my memory) truly brained anyone with his stick or gone all Bertuzzi on anyone. So, no, in that sense he’s not dirty.
But if we’re talking frequency and consistancy of rulebreaking (slash, crosscheck, (Cap’n) Elbows, etc.), then Prongers up there with anyone. Like the piece said – he just doesn’t care.
I think both sides are right.
There are levels of dirty. When I think of a dirty player, I think of Rich Pilon, whose only job in life seemed to be diving at people’s knees, which Pronger assuredly does not do. He’s never (to my memory) truly brained anyone with his stick or gone all Bertuzzi on anyone. So, no, in that sense he’s not dirty.
But if we’re talking frequency and consistancy of rulebreaking (slash, crosscheck, (Cap’n) Elbows, etc.), then Prongers up there with anyone. Like the piece said – he just doesn’t care.
I think there’s a difference between the rough, edgy, physical player (Pronger, Chelios) who tries to skirt the rules and do things slightly illegal, and the cheap shot artists and twits (Pilon, Avery, Downie) who do things that blatantly don’t belong on the ice. And I’m counting Avery more as a twit.
Honor is no substitute for victory.
am not sure if anyone mentioned it, but one of the unsung heroes last night was coburn. we was destroying people.
that last goal of giroux was set up by 4 perfect passes in a row. it was so beautiful and props to the camera crew who followed it perfectly.
otherwise, carcillo played just as well as carter and richie. i hate saying that, but there it is.
Eat what the monkey eats, then eat the monkey. -U.S. Navy survival guidance
yea props to the camera crew for doing their job
by mkellyrutgers on Jun 3, 2010 9:42 AM EDT up reply actions
it’s versus, so the bar is set very low
Eat what the monkey eats, then eat the monkey. -U.S. Navy survival guidance
I will defend versus on one thing in both nbc games it took a moment for them to stop the ice reflection. Vs. does hockey so they didn’t have problems when compared to nbc I think versus is better the at least had a pre game show not access hollywood
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by Christopher A on Jun 3, 2010 11:06 AM EDT up reply actions
I don’t think my head can hold onto this comment
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by PatterPoet95 on Jun 3, 2010 10:24 AM EDT up reply actions
jesus coburn was -3?
meh, he still had a good game!
Eat what the monkey eats, then eat the monkey. -U.S. Navy survival guidance
well, the 3rd goal was on him, he made a horrible pinch, although the puck kicked out wildly.
The other 2 goals, he was just unlucky to be on the ice for.
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by HockeyOutsiders on Jun 3, 2010 10:10 AM EDT up reply actions
Hilarious sign behind Clement last night
Even if it isn’t pronounced like that, I’ll take it.
I love the Flyers so much I even went to Bobby Clarke Day Camp.
by billy_pilgrim on Jun 3, 2010 9:34 AM EDT reply actions 8 recs
I saw a sign that said “Hey Eager, puck you.”
At a quick glace I thought it said “Fuck you”. I had to do a double take to make sure I read it right.
This station is non-operational.
Ha! I saw that one, too. Thought the same thing.
I love the Flyers so much I even went to Bobby Clarke Day Camp.
by billy_pilgrim on Jun 3, 2010 10:13 AM EDT up reply actions
carcillo/jvr
i loved carcillo in game 2. i thought he slowed the game down for us perfecty. however, i didn’t like him last night… i think it should be jvr in philly, carcillo in chicago
interesting. I agree to the point of bringing JVR back to the line-up.
Flyers and Blue Jackets...nuff said.
by PhillyPhan85 on Jun 3, 2010 10:13 AM EDT up reply actions
As do I.
Go Go Gadget Gagne
What if Broad Street Didn't Fight Back? History HAS been made. 5-7-10
5-8-10...the day the Purdue Boilermakers basketball team won the 2011 NCAA Championship!!
well, I feel bad on one hand for Carcillo, but the ref’s look like they are indeed looking for him to do something stupid on the ice, even when he makes a good hockey check, he gets a penalty. He also didn’t seem to be very good last night, so if he’s not going to play because the refs are going to single him out and he’s not going to be effective, then they need to reinsert JVR, which is what I am sure he will do.
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by HockeyOutsiders on Jun 3, 2010 10:23 AM EDT up reply actions
I was a doubter. My heart just dropped on that Kane breakaway. But I am gladly wrong and like I said last night I will put my head in a shitty toilet and take some feet kicks in the ass.
I wasn't even a year old but I stayed up to be outside the Vet with my Dad and Mom when the Phillies won the World Series 1980.
Apparently Patrick Kane has hot sisters?
http://thebiglead.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/05/otl_kane_600.jpg
Go Go Gadget Gagne
What if Broad Street Didn't Fight Back? History HAS been made. 5-7-10
5-8-10...the day the Purdue Boilermakers basketball team won the 2011 NCAA Championship!!
yeah and Toews wanted(I’m guessing cuz she looks the most legal) the one to his left, our right. Kane forbid it tho…probably good cuz if it ended in tears, they would have a hard time working together on the ice.
Flyers and Blue Jackets...nuff said.
by PhillyPhan85 on Jun 3, 2010 10:07 AM EDT up reply actions
Really? I don’t blame Kane at all. And yeah, the one to Kane’s left our right is insanely hot.
Go Go Gadget Gagne
What if Broad Street Didn't Fight Back? History HAS been made. 5-7-10
5-8-10...the day the Purdue Boilermakers basketball team won the 2011 NCAA Championship!!
yeah, they actually did an article not too too long ago…but it does make sense.
Flyers and Blue Jackets...nuff said.
by PhillyPhan85 on Jun 3, 2010 10:11 AM EDT up reply actions
Dude, you can’t bang a teammate’s sister. Verboten, unless you plan to marry her.
"Tortorella’s got it all wrong ... Gaborik shouldn’t be messing with our skilled player." -Peter Luukko
Yeah but I mean, don’t you need to start nailing her before you decide you want to marry her? Not saying it should come down to that but it certainly is part of the equation.
Go Go Gadget Gagne
What if Broad Street Didn't Fight Back? History HAS been made. 5-7-10
5-8-10...the day the Purdue Boilermakers basketball team won the 2011 NCAA Championship!!
I understand, but the intent has to be there. I say you just stay away, period, no matter how hot she is. It’s just a bad situation waiting to happen.
"Tortorella’s got it all wrong ... Gaborik shouldn’t be messing with our skilled player." -Peter Luukko
Well technically they are all his sisters but yes I was referring to the two on the outside, more specifically the blonde who seems to be somewhat in front of everyone.
Go Go Gadget Gagne
What if Broad Street Didn't Fight Back? History HAS been made. 5-7-10
5-8-10...the day the Purdue Boilermakers basketball team won the 2011 NCAA Championship!!
Pronger = Brick Wall
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-OD54xyCJMo&feature=player_embedded
Charging? Ref, you're blind. I didn't charge him, I slashed him.
Could someone please....
post the radio call of the game winner? It has to be awesome.
by Jayson Werth's beard on Jun 3, 2010 10:06 AM EDT reply actions
lavvy stuck up for carcillo in the presser. that was nice.
what happenned to bartulis last night?
also, lavvy calls yet another good timeout
Eat what the monkey eats, then eat the monkey. -U.S. Navy survival guidance
It’s kind of funny that Hawks fans are all whining about officiating this morning. I thought the officiating was brutal, but it’s not like the Flyers actually got an advantage. There were several non-calls on the Hawks, such as when Gags breaks in alone in the first period and Seabrook semi-hooks him and holds him up enough for Keith to get back. I also thought the call on Pronger for tripping in the first was pretty lame.
Yeah, Pronger should have gotten a crosschecking penalty at least once and there were several blown calls on both sides….I can’t point to that as the difference other than the Flyers cashed in on their opportunities and the Hawks didn’t.
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by HockeyOutsiders on Jun 3, 2010 10:29 AM EDT reply actions
They’re also saying how Philly barely snuck away with one last night. Not sure what games they’re watching, but the first 2 were no landslide wins, and could have gone either way.
Charging? Ref, you're blind. I didn't charge him, I slashed him.
well I would agree with that. Chicago hit 2 posts in the first. Leighton has not looked all that good and the Flyers were lucky to get that 3rd goal off a fluky bounce off the D-man’s leg (consequently, I think that was their 3rd pairing D, so nice to know our 3rd pairing aren’t the only weak link). If Leino doesn’t score within 20 seconds of the Kane breakaway, they shut us down.
So yes, we did sneak away with one, but like you mentioned, they snuck away with a game 1 win because Leighton was not sharp and game 2, where they played “prevent” hockey for the entire 3rd period.
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by HockeyOutsiders on Jun 3, 2010 10:41 AM EDT up reply actions
If Carter doesn’t deflect one past Leighton, if they kick Madden out of the circle for cheating on the face off etc etc etc. You can always say that stuff, for both teams in all close games. End of the day, the two teams have played very even hockey in this series. The only area where I think one team has been noticeably better is in goal, with Niemi almost stealing another one last night.
That was definitely unlucky.
Agreed, that Niemi has not shown himself to be the “mediocre” goalie that the stats seem to support. The kid was brilliant last night, even if he let in 4 goals.
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by HockeyOutsiders on Jun 3, 2010 10:47 AM EDT up reply actions
Niemi has been huge for Chicago. It’s frustrating for a Flyer fan to see all the stops he makes, but I give him mega props. Also, Chicago’s defense is fantastic at clearing the rebounds.
Charging? Ref, you're blind. I didn't charge him, I slashed him.
oh for sure. They have 5 white jersey’s all seemingly within 5 feet of the net on every shot.
i just hope Leighton can give us a little more like some of the saves he made last night in the 3rd.
Also, when one of the Hawks best players is on a breakaway, at least do something other than just stand there deep in net and let him have 4 corners to drill it into.
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by HockeyOutsiders on Jun 3, 2010 10:54 AM EDT up reply actions
Agreed, I’d rather see Boosh in a situation like that. I know Leights has earned the right to start, but I have to say it: I’d still rather have Boosh in net, I think, if he’s healthy enough.
Let the flaming begin.
"Tortorella’s got it all wrong ... Gaborik shouldn’t be messing with our skilled player." -Peter Luukko
funny, I have not been happy with Leighton at all so far in this series, but we got the win and he did make 2 huge stops in the 3rd, so maybe I need to take my own advice and just be glad he got the win because as I said a few days ago, he’s not Marty Brodeur…
I don’t see much of a difference between what Boosh could give us though. Maybe he would stand up a bit more so the high shot isn’t beating him constantly?
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by HockeyOutsiders on Jun 3, 2010 11:00 AM EDT up reply actions
It looked like Leighton was starting to commit to the butterfly too early there, then read the puck off of Kane’s stick, realized he had made the wrong play and got kind of stuck in the middle of nothing. I haven’t watched any replays, that’s just what I noticed live, so I’m not sure if I’m accurate on that or not.
I wouldn’t be surprised if that was it. Like I have mentioned previously, I do believe that he’s too deep in the net and goes down much to early. The Sopel goal was like that too. He was semi-screened by Krajicek, wasn’t in a good position for the shot and was down early. It was a fluke goal, but it’s f’ing Sopel. The guy hasn’t scored for the entire playoffs.
I could see Kane shooting the whole way, I wanted Leighton out challenging and being aggressive. His chances in that situation, being that it was Kane were not very good, so at least make an aggressive play. Even going into the butterfly and then attempting the poke check might have been preferrable.
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by HockeyOutsiders on Jun 3, 2010 11:04 AM EDT up reply actions
You know what’s odd to me, is that before this series Leighton has been more patient with going down, and something I liked in his game. I don’t know if he just isn’t seeing the puck as well, or if the stage is getting to him, but he has been going down earlier than he did against Bos and Mtl. But, as far as him being deep, I believe that was something Reese had him do, and was a big factor in the improvement of his game. I might be wrong, but I seem to remember that, and it makes sense, he’s big so he covers enough net even deep, and giving him that extra split second to react and let the puck come to him helps with his reaction time. But I definitely agree that he has been going down awfully early recently. I’m just not sure the cause of it yet.
He is definitely fighting it. But NJ, Boston and Montreal don’t exactly bring fear to anyone when you speak of offensive firepower.
Maybe the defenseman are getting pressed harder, aren’t as quick on the rebounds because the Chicago forecheck is more aggressive and that’s f’ing with his rhythm.
It’s just that he’s giving me a heart attack with all his flopping around.
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by HockeyOutsiders on Jun 3, 2010 11:13 AM EDT up reply actions
Oh me too. I just wonder b/c Leighton is supposed to be so calm, and if he really is, the pressure shouldn’t be changing his approach. Either Chicago has better play behind the net and in front of Leights than either Bos or Mtl, which is probably a given, or Leighton is letting the nerves get to him a bit, or I guess it could be both. Whatever it is, it’s making me nervous as well b/c it’s an obvious change in his game, which to me reflects a lack of confidence, and then results in me biting my nails every time Chi gets a shot off.
chicago is 100% more effective than any team we’ve faced behind the net as well. It seems they can magically find the open guy in the slot, where no other opponent has been as consistent at doing that. I imagine that would give someone in net some added trouble as well.
I don’t want to bash on Leighton, but suddenly, he looks like what he is.
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by HockeyOutsiders on Jun 3, 2010 11:27 AM EDT up reply actions
I wouldn’t be surprised if his 5-hole troubles weren’t a part of that as well. At least once or twice he really seemed to hit the butterfly hard early on shots that were already let loose. Some of that, agreed, is the Hawk pressure in front, but it could be an additional reason for the change in strategy.
Right now neither team has done anything. It was great to be older than 7 and watch a Stanley Cup Finals game win, but mission not accomplished for either team. Let them say what they want b/c they haven’t won anything yet either. Enjoy the win today, then get ready for the next must win tomorrow.
And I’m pretty sure anyone that can step back from their homerism for a second will admit to this series being very even.
Hypothetically, this series COULD BE 3-0 for the Blackhawks, 3-0 for the Flyers, 2-1 for the Flyers.
Fact is that it’s 2-1 for the Blackhawks and that’s what everyone needs to deal with. Game 4 is still definitely a must win.
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by HockeyOutsiders on Jun 3, 2010 10:46 AM EDT up reply actions
Yep, I feel like some Chicago fans who’ve been on here in recent days have been reading our thoughts on how these games could have gone either way and while they’ve nodded in agreement, silently they’re thinking, “yeah, right.” Now they think the same thing about last night’s game, which is the truth. The series is closely matched and has been played very tightly so far.
"Tortorella’s got it all wrong ... Gaborik shouldn’t be messing with our skilled player." -Peter Luukko
If this series has showed me anything, it’s that these are the two teams that truly deserve to be in this situation, battling for the Cup. I truly believe, based on how the teams have played in the playoffs, that these are the two best representatives from each conference.
Not to mention that the NHL needs a series like this. With all due respect to the Pens and Red Wings, they didn’t play the most exciting series that I’ve ever seen. They need this to be a long, close one full of sideline intrigue and mindgames that make the casual fan tune in to see just what will happen next.
It may end up killing some fans of both teams in the process, but this is good for the sport. They’ve got 2 great storylines with 2 big cities/media markets involved who haven’t won championships in the sport in forever. Both fanbases are nuts. Good stuff.
"Tortorella’s got it all wrong ... Gaborik shouldn’t be messing with our skilled player." -Peter Luukko
I haven’t found chicago all that interesting to this point, but admittedly, I haven’t followed them closely.
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by HockeyOutsiders on Jun 3, 2010 11:01 AM EDT up reply actions
Well, from a national standpoint, they are—41 years since cup win, lowest of lows in their franchise last decade, young guns, firepower, all that stuff. Of course, the Flyers are more interesting to me with all they’ve overcome this season, but both are pretty interesting storylines.
"Tortorella’s got it all wrong ... Gaborik shouldn’t be messing with our skilled player." -Peter Luukko
true, but I’m speaking more of the off key stories, like the NJ coach throwing the jar or jelly, Boston collapsing and Montreal’s “sandgate”. Chicago didn’t seem to have anything other than a Western team powerhouse just taking care of business like they should. Eager getting a towel shot at him is the most interesting thing so far.
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by HockeyOutsiders on Jun 3, 2010 11:08 AM EDT up reply actions
It’s 49 years without a cup win…
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by PatterPoet95 on Jun 3, 2010 11:34 AM EDT up reply actions
It’s what I imagine Carcillo is yelling when he got sent to the box. I though for sure the call was the slash on the back, and when they called charging, i was like ‘what the heck’?
Charging? Ref, you're blind. I didn't charge him, I slashed him.
Thank you, Travis! :)
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Shit.
It’s 4:15 a.m. here.
I’m staying up to celebrate!
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Off to bed now with a smile on my face! 4.13am!
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by Orange and Black Forever on Jun 3, 2010 1:26 PM EDT reply actions
Katchis deserves some props too. She’s one hour ahead of us. The games don’t even begin until after 2 a.m. her time.
It has been a bit surreal watching these games and going to bed with the sun coming up – this isn’t an exaggeration, by the way. The UK is so far north that the twilight lasts until 10:30 p.m. right now, and the pre-dawn light shows up before 4 a.m. I don’t have to turn on any lights to go to bed. :)
See you Friday night (Saturday morning for us in the UK and points further East)!
GO FLYERS!!!!
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by Orange and Black Forever on Jun 3, 2010 1:39 PM EDT up reply actions
Thanks Travis!
At least I don’t have work after tonight’s game. I’m dreading a midweek game going to several OTs… As long as the O&B win though!
by Glasgow Flyer on Jun 4, 2010 6:43 AM EDT up reply actions
Carcillo
Put Dan back on line with Gagne and Richards; they were scoring and playing well before Carter came back.How about leaving him there for an entire game. He already has a game winner in overtime.
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