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Breaking Down Potential Flyers Conn Smythe Trophy Winners

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This was scheduled to publish yesterday. It didn't. Now, it gets buried this morning above the Fly By. Oh well.

As a fan of a team still in the Stanley Cup Final, it's a little awkward to discuss the Conn Smythe Trophy. After all, it's rare that a player on a losing team wins the award for playoff MVP without winning the Stanley Cup too, so speculating about who on your team might win it is essentially saying, "hey, we're gonna win the Cup, too."

Especially in a year like this, where the Flyers have no clear cut favorite to win the award and it won't be like 1987 where the Flyers lost and Ron Hextall still took home the hardware, it's a little nerve-wracking to have this discussion. And this time of year, you kind of learn not to mess with superstition.

But with all of that said, there's really no other time to have this discussion then right now, while the Final is still playing out. And last time we had a speculative discussion like this, it seemed to work out just fine.

Without further adieu, then, let's take the jump and discuss which Flyers players have a chance of taking how the Conn Smythe Trophy should things go as planned over the next couple of days.

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Chris Pronger, #20 -- defenseman, genuine bad ass

At this point, it's almost tough to argue against Pronger for the Conn Smythe. He leads the Flyers in minutes, of course, putting in just about 30 solid through 20 playoff games thus far, and in those games, he's made literally maybe about two or three mistakes. His on-ice resume in these playoffs is just impeccable, and without him in the lineup, there's absolutely no doubt in my mind that the Flyers would be somewhere else right now, perhaps on a beach somewhere or scattered on golf courses around the continent. 

But he also brings another element to the equation here. He's a calming force for his  teammates off the ice as well. His calculated antics in media conferences take pressure away from other players. It focuses the media sideshow surrounding the playoffs and, more pointedly, the Final, around him and only him. And it works very, very well. One thing you learn with Chris Pronger is that if he's doing it, there's a reason. The man is good at what he does, no matter what he's doing.

Pronger's never won a Conn Smythe before. This might be his year.

Danny Briere, #48 -- forward, leading playoff scorer

A lot of people talk about Danny Briere's contract. Man, that guy makes a ton of coin. And whether it's Flyers fans complaining about it or outside people laughing as Danny walks to the bank, it all shuts up during the playoffs. They are wise to do so.

Briere is known as a playoff machine, and it's one of the main reasons he's worth the ridiculous salary that he collects. In these playoffs, he's racked up 24 points in 20 games thus far, including 11 goals and 13 assists. He makes his linemates look fantastic and he makes the win hockey games in the entire process.

Michael Leighton, #49 -- goaltender, naysayer-shutter-upper

A Flyers goalie in Conn Smythe consideration? Get the hell out of here. No, it's true. How could you argue against the numbers, really? 2.06 goals against average. .926 save percentage. Most importantly, he's 5-0 at home and 7-2 overall in these playoffs. Results, friends. Results.

Mike Richards, #18 -- forward, Captain extraordinaire

Mike Richards has, without a doubt, had a rough Final so far. He, along with his entire line, has looked rather invisible on the ice thus far. But only three games have gone by in the championship round, and there's still plenty more story to be written.

Besides the last three games, Richards has had himself a hell of a playoff. He virtually willed the Flyers to victory in the final game of the Eastern Conference Finals against Montreal and he's second in points behind Briere with 22. He's the team's unquestioned (yeah, I said it) leader and their driving force, even when he isn't necessarily playing all that well. He could win the award just on street cred alone, probably, but if he steps up in the next few games, he's going to have a very strong case.

Ville Leino, #22 -- forward, Detroit's worst nightmare

No Flyer rookie has had more points in the Stanley Cup Playoffs since Brian Propp in 1980. I repeat. Ville Leino currently sits tied with Brian Propp for most playoff points by a rookie in a Flyers uniform. With at least two more games left in these playoffs, Leino is likely to pass that mark, too.

His rise in these playoffs has been nothing short of a miracle. Left for dead in Detroit, a non-important midseason trade brought Leino to Philadelphia, and since getting a chance to play regularly in these playoffs, he's been an absolute force. He plays with confidence, he makes dazzling plays, he makes easy plays, he does it all. He's gone from the bench to a mainstay on the Flyers second line, and with help from Briere, he's made Scott Hartnell a better player.

As Ian Laperriere said after Game 3, in a quote that will never get old, "Detroit should've traded Datsyuk instead of you."

Claude Giroux, #28 -- forward, grilled cheese connoisseur

On Wednesday night, Claude Giroux scored the biggest goal of his hockey career. It's one that potentially saved the season for the Flyers in a season where there have been far too many of those type of goals. Oddly enough, Giroux had another one of those as well, the final Flyers goal of the regular season in the shootout during Game 82.

In the playoffs, Giroux's third on the team in points with 20, including 9 goals and 11 assists. The most impressive part of this, perhaps, is that he's doing it on a line with Arron Asham and either James van Riemsdyk or Dan Carcillo. With another big goal or two in a Final with plenty of big goals still to come, Claude has a bit of a case for the Conn Smythe as well.

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The thing about Pronger is that you just forget he’s there a lot of the time b/c he just plays so sound and does he job so well without being flashy, unlike someone like Briere or Giroux who make the highlight reels with their plays.

by historywillbemade on Jun 4, 2010 8:56 AM EDT reply actions  

This is Pronger’s to lose. The only way I see that happening is if Briere or more importantly Richie have some HUGE games. Just as they kept saying about Chicago, our first line will not be kept silent for long.

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by Psy09 on Jun 4, 2010 9:04 AM EDT reply actions  

pronger, with everyone else being a distant second.

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by psudrozz on Jun 4, 2010 9:29 AM EDT reply actions  

Still surprised Briere played as a winger for you guys so long. What a great center he is, I never considered that when his point totals were sagging in the reg. season on the wing.

Also, what is the grilled cheese reference about Claude about?

by Rod Blogojevich on Jun 4, 2010 9:42 AM EDT reply actions  

Claude eats them before every game. He’s powered by melted cheese!

I love the Flyers so much I even went to Bobby Clarke Day Camp.

by billy_pilgrim on Jun 4, 2010 9:43 AM EDT up reply actions  

I had thought in the Reg season they should have put him back at center in some games but thanks to injuries he is where he belongs.

I wasn't even a year old but I stayed up to be outside the Vet with my Dad and Mom when the Phillies won the World Series 1980.

by Christopher A on Jun 4, 2010 9:46 AM EDT up reply actions  

That’s a good observation. I never thought about it that way. I know he has been hurt last few years and this year was a down year for everyone in regular season. The problem is that we are stacked at the Center position and Carter isn’t great at wing at all. All the following players are Centers: Giroux, Carter, Richards, Briere, Betts, Powe, and I think Gagne also came into the league as a center but is definitely a winger now

by historywillbemade on Jun 4, 2010 9:53 AM EDT up reply actions  

Oh I didn’t make that observation, I give credit to Doc Cherry for noting ’Little guys like Briere need to play as a C"

by Rod Blogojevich on Jun 4, 2010 10:05 AM EDT up reply actions  

Pronger, unless Briere or Richards turn it up these next few games and put up over 30+ points total for the playoffs.

by edbro on Jun 4, 2010 9:45 AM EDT reply actions  

Or G for that matter.

by edbro on Jun 4, 2010 9:46 AM EDT up reply actions  

I will say anyone of these guys scores the cup winner in overtime he will be the winner.

I wasn't even a year old but I stayed up to be outside the Vet with my Dad and Mom when the Phillies won the World Series 1980.

by Christopher A on Jun 4, 2010 9:47 AM EDT reply actions  

What if it is Bartulis? I think not. Granted, he’d likely wouldn’t be on the ice in an overtime situation.

by edbro on Jun 4, 2010 9:51 AM EDT up reply actions  

Uwe Krupp says, “Nah, probably not.”

by Snevik on Jun 4, 2010 10:36 AM EDT up reply actions  

I think, with the Flyers winning this series, Pronger wins Conn Smyth kind of by default. I think Travis’ point about “tough to argue against…” is really where it’s at. It’s not that Pronger has necessarily done so much more than anyone else, this has really been a team effort all around, it’s just that what he has done at least up to this point seems more important than what anyone else has done.

That being said it really won’t surprise me who could win this award for the Flyers. I mean Hartnell has been stellar also (and awesome in the first three games) and the Flyers playoff record without Gagne was something like 1-3, with him in the line up they are something like 12-4.

Great article, great read. I left Leighton out of my comments cause I know what’s coming and won’t bother to read anymore of this thread after my post…

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by PatterPoet95 on Jun 4, 2010 9:58 AM EDT reply actions  

Well the only argument against would be if someone really has a ton more points than Pronger.

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by EREX21 on Jun 4, 2010 2:34 PM EDT up reply actions  

obviously leighton is getting the conn smythe after he posts three straight shutouts to close the series.. haha jk.. that would be sweet tho… anyway, trophy is deff goin to pronger, hands down

by mkellyrutgers on Jun 4, 2010 10:04 AM EDT reply actions  

Two man race between Pronger and Briere. If Buff-len (screw the way he spells it I am protesting that shit) and Toews continue to no show Danny will have to go off big the rest of the way to beat out Assistant Captain Elbows.

by chrislanci on Jun 4, 2010 10:13 AM EDT reply actions  

If Leighton puts up insane numbers the rest of the way, he will win it. He is the “feel-good” story of the playoffs and there is no way that the people who choose these things will ignore that. I mean, the guy has moved around 50 times, been on waivers half his career and he’s living in a hotel room. That said, he needs to play big from here on out.

If Leighton is ok, but not spectacular, I believe Pronger will then win it regardless of Briere or Richards putting up insane numbers from here on out. He’s all the media is talking about, I mean seriously 90% of all discussions involve Pronger, on and off the ice. He has the hype.

I know this isn’t a Blackhawks conversation, but should the Hawks win, Niemi is getting it for sure, it’s not even a contest.

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by HockeyOutsiders on Jun 4, 2010 10:25 AM EDT reply actions  

Flyers: Feel good story or not, they’re probably not handing out the Conn Smythe to someone who didn’t play for the first round and a half (and got pulled in game 1 of the Finals. The shutouts are nice and everything, but someone already working from a handicap needs to be flawless for consideration).

So it’s down to Pronger and Briere. I’d agree it’s probably Pronger, seeing as how if they are to win they probably need to keep up the work on Toews and Kane (even if they score the occasional goal, it’s mission accomplished if the Flyers keep winning). Briere has done fantastic work this year, though.

Hawks: Definitely agree on Niemi unless Toews picks it up over the next few games. He’s got some work to do to make up for the last few games, but Toews was considered the favorite heading into the Finals.

by Aphilfan on Jun 4, 2010 10:34 AM EDT up reply actions  

I agree to a certain extent, but if Leighton wins the next 3 games 2-1, 3-1 and 2-0 or something like that, it’s going to be extremely hard for anybody not to say he didn’t deserve the MVP of the playoffs regardless if he didn’t play the first round and a half.

The guy bailed out the Flyers out of a 3-0 hole, when the starter went down, he posted 3 SO’s in the ECF and after being down 2-0 and playing a so-so game 3, was lights out for the next 3 games to win the Cup. I don’t see how he wouldn’t/couldn’t win it. If the argument is that there are better options, I definitely agree with that, but I am just throwing out a hypothetical situation, where he would become the front runner.

As for the Hawks, Toews could definitely get back in the picture, but Niemi has already stolen one game of these finals and he’s posted great numbers since the start.

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by HockeyOutsiders on Jun 4, 2010 10:44 AM EDT up reply actions  

Grilled Cheese Man gets his commercial

I know they’re getting old, but man I love the ones featuring the Flyers scoring.

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by billy_pilgrim on Jun 4, 2010 10:28 AM EDT reply actions  

I like that the goal got one, especially if Flyers go on to win this thing, but I wouldn’t call the Flyers’ play in the first two games “lifeless”. I think that the media has characterized game 3 win the wrong way by saying “now we have a series” as if the Hawks were just dominating play so far, which is completely false. Play has been fairly even, I’d even say Flyers have been better and would have another win if Niemi didn’t stand on his head in game 2, and every game has been won by one goal. How is that not a series already? Flyers were never out of it; they just needed some of the bounces that the Hawks got earlier in the series

by historywillbemade on Jun 4, 2010 11:28 AM EDT up reply actions  

Leight's Record

I see that NHL has him listed at 7-2. Did Boucher the the L for game 1 in this series?

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by KreiderDesigns on Jun 4, 2010 10:49 AM EDT reply actions  

Probably- he gave up the goal that technically won the game…

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by PatterPoet95 on Jun 4, 2010 11:14 AM EDT up reply actions  

He did.

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by Geoff Detweiler on Jun 4, 2010 11:17 AM EDT up reply actions  

Weak.

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by KreiderDesigns on Jun 4, 2010 11:21 AM EDT up reply actions  

As I said on the radio show, perfect microcosm of Boucher’s season.

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by Geoff Detweiler on Jun 4, 2010 12:51 PM EDT up reply actions  

funny thing was that as soon as I heard Boucher would be on the bench, I thought given our luck Boucher will see time tonite and he did.

by historywillbemade on Jun 4, 2010 1:19 PM EDT up reply actions  

interesting sub-topic:

if Boucher would have gotten the W in game 1, would he have played the rest of the series?

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by HockeyOutsiders on Jun 4, 2010 11:37 AM EDT up reply actions  

Depends how big he stepped up.

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by Geoff Detweiler on Jun 4, 2010 12:50 PM EDT up reply actions  

well, he came in at 5-4 for them right? Carle scored the GTG, so assume we got the 6th goal and won 6-5…

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by HockeyOutsiders on Jun 4, 2010 2:54 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah, but do the Blackhawks get a shot off on Boucher? Do they only get shots weak shots from the corner? Does Boucher have to stand on his head like he did at the start of overtime against Boston? There are varying degrees that I think affect whether or not Boucher starts the next game.

And I think Leighton would be back for Game 2 unless Boucher absolutely stole that game.

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by Geoff Detweiler on Jun 4, 2010 4:31 PM EDT up reply actions  

I think it’s down to Briere or Leighton depending on what happens in the rest of the series. TinyB has 4 GWGs. That’s pretty big, only Big Buttmunch has as many. His goals have come at key times and he’s been really turning it on in the playoffs. 24 points? C’MON!

Leighton wouldn’t get my vote but he’s got to be in the conversation. I view those 3 shutouts as team stats but many people won’t. He stepped up big when he needed to and what is more valuable to a team than that? Plus the NHL LOVES goalie Smythes.

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by KreiderDesigns on Jun 4, 2010 11:24 AM EDT reply actions  

3.5 shutouts lol. Leighton I’d say is 4th in the running on the Flyers behind Pronger, Briere, and Richards.

by historywillbemade on Jun 4, 2010 11:29 AM EDT up reply actions  

yup. That’s what I think as well. The NHL loves goalies, so whoever is the winning goalie already has a leg up on everyone else. Also the forwards/defense in the running split votes among each other, which also helps give the goalie the nod.

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by HockeyOutsiders on Jun 4, 2010 11:36 AM EDT up reply actions  

if i had to decide right now, i’d feel ashamed to single out one guy over another, and i mean more than the team thing, but how do you chose between pronger or briere? richards has been streaky and now overshadowed so considering what briere and pronger have done, how the hell do you pick one? can they share it? if leighton throws three SO’s or single goal games and stands on his head then he’s a darkhorse for it

by Hans S on Jun 4, 2010 11:36 AM EDT reply actions  

I admire the confidence, but why not wait until we've won three games?

Especially given that every time we fall behind by a goal half the fan base thinks the series is over.

Go through the list of candidates and imagine each of them injured for the entire playoffs. Seems to me there is no question that Pronger is the guy you can’t do without.

by flyersfaninchicago on Jun 4, 2010 12:16 PM EDT reply actions  

Leino Interview

Nice interview with Leino, especially the discussion of Hartnell’s beard.

http://sports.yahoo.com/nhl/blog/puck_daddy/post/Video-Flyers-Leino-on-sudden-Philly-fame-Hart?urn=nhl,245780

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by LVHokejs on Jun 4, 2010 1:37 PM EDT reply actions  

I think Leino may have bumped himself up on this board a little bit…

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by PatterPoet95 on Jun 5, 2010 10:25 AM EDT reply actions  

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