Ladd, JVR, Pronger, Crappy Sports Columnist Du Jour: Pre-Game Notes Prior To Game 4
by Travis Hughes on Jun 4, 2010 3:10 PM EDT
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PHILADELPHIA -- Chris Pronger didn't even speak to the media this morning, but that's not keeping him from being a topic of conversation before tonight's Game 4. A lot of people are wondering if the relaxed Flyers are beginning to get in the heads of the Chicago Blackhawks, who still lead this Stanley Cup Final two games to one, and Pronger of course is the man who leads that charge.
He's (back)-page news in Chicago this morning, described as "PUBLIC ENEMY NUMBER ONE" by the Chicago Sun-Times. He was the topic of questions directed at Blackhawks players following their morning skate, and one of them in particular, goaltender Antti Niemi, talked about the pressure of playing in the Wachovia Center.
"It's incredibly loud and they play a physical game, especially at home, said Niemi, as translated by Euroflyers. "It's a tough spot for the away team, but we did fine in the previous game. We just have to keep working."
Pronger-hell was also hinted at by Jonathan Toews in this morning's Daily News:
"It is what it is," said Hawks captain Jonathan Toews, who has just one point in this series. "He's going to go out there and be physical. It doesn't matter how many whacks you're going to take from a guy like that in front of their net, the second you turn around and give him one, you have to be careful, because that's what [referees] are looking for is retaliation."
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"I don't know how he would be getting into our heads, whether it's vocally or what not," Toews said. "He's not talking a lot out there. He's playing. He's doing his job the way he knows he can do it. So I mean, he's just one player. I don't think it's that big of a deal."
But that's precisely the thing there. Chris Pronger gets in your head just by doing his job.
Some more notes from today so far at the Wachovia Center after the jump.
- It's looking more and more like James van Riemsdyk will be back in the lineup tonight over Dan Carcillo.
- Andrew Ladd is a game time decision.
- Okay, let's get to this now. Dan McNeil. Chicago Tribune. Uhhh, he sat in section 10something on Wednesday night apparently looking for trouble, and, well... just read the article. I'll keep my thoughts to myself on yet another unoriginal Philly-bashing piece of litter box liner (okay, so comments kept partially to myself). His email is presumably dmcneil at chicagosuntimes.com.
- Some great stats coming up...
- ... Chicago is 5-0 in the playoffs after a loss. The Flyers are 8-0 in Games 4, 5, 6 and 7 in these playoffs. Tonight is a Game 4 and Chicago lost their last game. Something has to give.
- ... from Meech on Twitter: "Blackhawks haven't won in Philly since Patrick Kane was 8." In fact, the last win came in November of 1996 when this building was just a month old.
- ... the two teams have been tied or separated by one goal 96% of the series (178:16 of 185:59).
- ... Michael Leighton is 5-0 with two shutouts, a 1.18 GAA and a .958 save percentage at home in the playoffs.
- ... Chris Pronger needs one more point to tie Doug Crossman's playoff record for most points by a Flyers defenseman. Crossman had 18 in 26 games, Pronger has 17 through 20.
- Kelly Sutherland and Stephen Walkom are your referees tonight. Steve Miller (band?) and Jean Morin are your linesmen.
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I would like to point out other newspapers that bashed Philly fans when they were playing one of our teams in the playoffs in the last three years:
Mike Wise of the Washington Post trashed Philly fans in 08 (Flyers beat Washington in 7)
TJ Simers trashed Philly in 08 & 09 (Phillies beat Dodgers in 5 both times)
"Can Geico really save you 15% or more on your car insurance? Is Mike Green really a forward in defenseman's clothing"
mike wise
what a classic homer writer with no knowledge of playoff hockey (since the caps are rarely there). if i recall correctly, he complained that the Flyers were playing too physical. what a moron.
Even Japers’ mocked him awhile back.
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by Geoff Detweiler on Jun 4, 2010 3:58 PM EDT up reply actions
The thing that bothers me the most about that article is that he tries to play like “bullshit” is a more G-rated chant than “asshole.” Manufacture whatever drama you like about drunk sports fans, but get your hierarchy of cusses right, goddammit.
haha, I loved that part too.
Because shit and ass have such completely different connotations.
That’s too G-rated in this burg, where questionable officiating draws a chant that references a specific part of the anatomy used for waste expulsion.
We chant the “specific part of the anatomy” and they chant the “waste expulsion”. It’s this type of feigned outrage – which is exactly what it is – that makes me realize how utterly ridiculous these people are. All he wanted to do was rip Philly fans, stir trouble, and beat a dead horse. But he just had to add in something so incredibly dumb to give it away.
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by Geoff Detweiler on Jun 4, 2010 4:04 PM EDT up reply actions
The Fanatic, 97.5FM, is supposedly going to get McNeil on the air momentarily to discuss the article with him.
In Latvia, they're rooting for Bartulis' team, the Filadelfijas Flaieri!
I want to hear the aftermath
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Mike Missanelli got him on the phone and ripped into him, saying that McNeil was simply fishing for stuff to write about, and that none of the stuff he experienced is any different than what happens in sports venues in other cities. It got pretty heated, but, as expected, McNeil wouldn’t back down. I hope he’s ready for a ton of hate mail coming his way, because that opinion piece was really over the top. I expect that stuff from internet chat rooms, but not from a “professional” journalist.
In Latvia, they're rooting for Bartulis' team, the Filadelfijas Flaieri!
Just heard you get completed owned on the Mike Missanelli radio show. Stick to sports instead of taking pot-shots at the City of Philadelphia. You’re not the first, you won’t be the last, and like everybody else…you’re bringing nothing to the table.
I guess it takes a lot of class to stereotype an entire city and surrounding area over what happens in a pressurized sporting event and trash everybody in a newspaper. If that’s class, than I’m proud to be a no-class Philadelphian.
Sorry in advance for the Blackhawk loss tonight.
Sounds like the turd-flinging has already begun.
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(from a guy who commented on the article)
Sometimes I think the surest sign that intelligent life exists elsewhere in the universe is that none of it has tried to contact us. - C&H
I tried to comment...
But I felt like I was filling out a Census or something. Too many query fields for my liking.
by joe_digiacomo on Jun 4, 2010 4:42 PM EDT up reply actions
Chicagoans don't even like the guy
Apparently he does some crap local sports talk show there. I read a few of his other articles, not one of which has a shred of insight or actual Hockey IQ in them.
Priceless comments here by "jkf400, “threeput”, and of course, "macsstinkypinky—
What a surprise—the challenged mcmeal does another hockey column—is he still hoping to become an ambassador like his mentor (in terms of drunk and abusive to women, bobby H?) Mcmeal has burned ALL bridges with the major sports in town so what else can the one trick pony do? Where does he come up with this garbage?
" pilloried his senses" he must mean his massive overeating disorder, binge drinking, drug use, and chain smoking—ya think that had any sensory impact??
mcneil for years has tried to glorify all of these vices, and wears them like a badge of honor, along with being a major sexist arrogant pig. He speaks of true fans—he would now know what a true fan is as he calls for the tearing down of White Sox banners and the firing of Kenny and Ozzie— watch out hawk fans, this
fraud will turn on you just as he did Bears, Bulls, White Sox and Cubs…And can he stop boring us with his talk of investments? WTF cares?
philsims (05/28/2010, 10:34 PM )
Yay for Kelly Sutherland. Like I’ve said before, he’s the only ref I ever notice for going beyond what’s normal to get the call right.
Over/under for the number of times Kelly winds up on top of the net?
Honor is no substitute for victory.
always thought that was kind of dangerous. i mean he gets the call right, and that’s great.
i am more concerned about him slashing the twine with his skates. don’t want a “leclaire goal” scored against us
Eat what the monkey eats, then eat the monkey. -U.S. Navy survival guidance
That’s reviewable. If the puck enters the goal area from through the netting or under a temporarily displaced netframe no goal is awarded.
by bfrank27 on Jun 4, 2010 3:49 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
I’ll go with 5 to be safe…
"Chris Pronger sneaked in the back door...banged it home."
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The hatred of Philly and the Flyers from around the league makes me want the cup even more. just imagine bettman handing Richards the cup, that image would stick it to the whiny fans of other teams, just like the image of Crosby holding the cup disgusts me.
by historywillbemade on Jun 4, 2010 3:36 PM EDT reply actions
I don’t sense that Bettman dislike the Flyers. Not like Campbell did. But from writing and hanging out in many Internet Hockey forums, the hockey fans really do hold some kind of deep seeded hatred for the Flyers. Somehow in their minds the Cups were stolen from “real” hockey players. Like the Bruins, Blues and Canadians played some kind of no check hockey. What a bunch of BS!
Phigment
i’ll sum up the mcneil article:
people curse at hockey games in philly.
there, now you don’t have to improve his pageviews.
Eat what the monkey eats, then eat the monkey. -U.S. Navy survival guidance
we can’t help it that we have good food
by historywillbemade on Jun 4, 2010 3:42 PM EDT up reply actions
And Chicagoans should be familiar with weight problems. Sure, Philly’s #20 on the list of fattest cities, but Chicago’s #11.
Honor is no substitute for victory.
I know, both our cities have tons of delicious, fattening foods. Why do people wonder why we both have weight problems? Have they ever HAD a roast pork sandwich? It’s heaven on a South Philly Italian roll.
"Tortorella’s got it all wrong ... Gaborik shouldn’t be messing with our skilled player." -Peter Luukko
Yeah, because we know Chicago fans never curse at games. Puh-lease. He was looking for trouble for his article and he found it. I could find trouble in StL if I really wanted to.
How about that Cubs’ fan who dumped a fucking beer on Shane Victorino’s head last year during a game? Or the Chicago fans that ran out on the field and attacked an umpire? Wasn’t the disco record burning fiasco in Chicago a million years ago?
The Philly fan as worst fan ever is the more tired meme on sports. I won’t even bother to clicky clicky. He is unworthy of my precious time.
"Tortorella’s got it all wrong ... Gaborik shouldn’t be messing with our skilled player." -Peter Luukko
by doubleh on Jun 4, 2010 3:49 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
http://www.pensburgh.com/2010/6/4/1501235/game-four-tonight-in-philly
Apparently Pens blog thinks we have a good chance of winning tonight. I may dislike the Pens and their fans but Pensburgh runs a good blog
by historywillbemade on Jun 4, 2010 3:51 PM EDT reply actions
Dan McNeil is a big honkin’ doofus. We should give out his home phone number.
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"Good night. Good hockey."
Nah, that’s exactly what he wants. Notoriety. And we all fall into the trap every time. Missanelli, whom I normally detest in every other aspect, continually rips these “journalists” new assholes every time they churn out one of these pieces of garbage. It’s the only entertaining of his show. If you ever get a chance to hear him take one to task, I suggest you do so. The Skip Bayless tar and feathering was by far my all-time favorite.
"Tortorella’s got it all wrong ... Gaborik shouldn’t be messing with our skilled player." -Peter Luukko
by doubleh on Jun 4, 2010 3:57 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Thank you!
Mancrushin' on Geoff since April 20
"Good night. Good hockey."
by KreiderDesigns on Jun 4, 2010 4:02 PM EDT up reply actions
Eh, I never liked that show, so didn’t get the reference. Sorry, my bad.
"Tortorella’s got it all wrong ... Gaborik shouldn’t be messing with our skilled player." -Peter Luukko
That’s no problem. What you said was true. However, he’s still a big honkin’ doofus in my book.
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"Good night. Good hockey."
by KreiderDesigns on Jun 4, 2010 4:03 PM EDT up reply actions
To the Chicago reporter.....
I have traveled to 15 NHL sites to watch the Flyers play. From Pittsburgh, to Washington, to Raleigh, to Atlanta, to Ottawa, to Montreal, to all the New York teams, and to Nashville. I have to say that with the exception of Nashville, we were treated poorly by just about every fan there. So stop whining about being yelled at by the “big bad Philly fans”. Deal with it! If you don’t like it – stay in freaking Chicago where the people don’t even have enough respect to LISTEN TO THE NATIONAL ANTHEM!
Phigment
Wicked burn!
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"Good night. Good hockey."
by KreiderDesigns on Jun 4, 2010 4:04 PM EDT up reply actions
I will say though, I have never had an issue at a Florida Panthers game. Not even one heckle. But most of those people are amazed at the fact that people are skating around on ice that I don’t think they even notice that I’m wearing an away team’s jersey.
"Chris Pronger sneaked in the back door...banged it home."
Flyers Television Play-by-Play Man: Jim Jackson
actually, i like what they do during the anthem.
look at our anthem’s lyrics-there is some war going on there. might as well have some fan emotion to go with the singing.
Eat what the monkey eats, then eat the monkey. -U.S. Navy survival guidance
i don't mind it
i see it as them cheering the national anthem, and I like that. I prefer singing the national anthem, but cheering for it is okay too. That’s the least of my complaints.
Anyone up for poaching fun comments from SCH?
I know some of you are jittery. Don’t be. We’d have taken 2-1 in the Cup Final in October. We have the better team. We haven’t played our best in this series yet, and the Flyers have. They still needed at OT to scratch out a win.
Ha.
Leighton hasn’t played at his best this series yet, so the Flyers as a whole actually have not played at their best yet. If we can match the Flyers’ effort in Game 3 with Leighton’s effort in Game 2 against Montreal, then we can say “The Flyers have played their best.”
Plus, I would say Chicago has played their best… end of the second / all of the 3rd period of game 1, anyone?
Do you see what happens when you find a stranger in the Alps?
And the Flyers have most certainly not played their best yet when they’ve had turnovers and various shots on wide open nets that have missed, Carcillo brain farts, Leights, etc. If we can get our top line going before Chicago does, then we can say Philly is playing their best.
"Tortorella’s got it all wrong ... Gaborik shouldn’t be messing with our skilled player." -Peter Luukko
Not to mention Coburn turning the puck over on the blue line while on the PP (even though he’s generally been amazing otherwise). Not to mention JVR making a weak play in front of the net leading to a goal. So on and so forth.
I’d argue our mistakes have been far more costly than Chicago’s mistakes have (their OT line change aside). If that’s the case, I don’t see any way we could have played our best, while they have plenty left to show. Or so I hope…
Yeah, the Flyers wouldn’t have anything to do with the fact that the Blackhawks have not yet played their best game, now would they? Better team on paper means nothing. Team playing the best TEAM hockey at the time usually wins. The Flyers also could have won game 2 if it weren’t for Niemi. He and home ice have been the sway factor in the series so far.
"Tortorella’s got it all wrong ... Gaborik shouldn’t be messing with our skilled player." -Peter Luukko
May home ice be the sway factor in two more games… Tonight and Game 6.
Do you see what happens when you find a stranger in the Alps?
Amen
My brotha.
"Tortorella’s got it all wrong ... Gaborik shouldn’t be messing with our skilled player." -Peter Luukko
They refuse to accept that there is a team that can beat them. They’ve drunk the Kool Aid big time. With few exceptions, nearly all of the Chicago fan comments I’ve seen blame the Flyer’s success on some factor than the Flyer’s abilities.
In Latvia, they're rooting for Bartulis' team, the Filadelfijas Flaieri!
Well, then that’s just sad and seriously points to many of their bandwagonness as it were. A real hockey fan might be angry, but wouldn’t actually point at the other team and say, “I can’t believe we’re losing to THESE guys.” It takes skill and hardwork to get to this level of the playoffs, and I feel sorry that they cannot recognize it in their opponent. I never take an opponent for granted; not even when it’s the Caps.
"Tortorella’s got it all wrong ... Gaborik shouldn’t be messing with our skilled player." -Peter Luukko
They refuse to accept that there is a team that can beat them.
This is my huge problem with them: their ridiculous presumptuousness. The feeling in the bar after Kane scored was “Finally, things have been corrected. It was only a matter of time before the Hawks showed their dominance in this game, on the way to an imminent sweep.”
I'll defend them a bit
It’s generally the same commenters over and over who are really guilty of what we’re talking about here. It’s a Chicago blog, so it’s going to be Hawk centric, and since most goals (or lack thereof) are a combination of one team doing something right AND another doing something wrong, most of them are focusing on the Hawks part of it.
That’s not to say all of them are that way, of course. The post quoted above dripped with arrogance, which is why I just ignored it. But the writers and a good portion of the commenters at SCH, from my impressions, know better.
Hm, you're right
There was a comment in one of the posts yesterday (by someone else) that was the same almost word for word. It stuck out to me, which is why I didn’t bother looking for context first. My apologies.
In that case, that’s the first time I’ve seen one of their writers put that up there. He’s wrong, of course (as pointed out by everyone else here), so it makes me wonder why it’s there.
One guy on the Hawks has played his best game yet and that was Niemi. And he won’t steal another game.
Go Go Gadget Gagne
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exactly those Chicago fans act like they have a dominant team playing down to a lowly 7th seed from weak eastern conference that needed a shootout to get in, instead of an evenly matched series in which all 3 games were one by one goal. If not for Niemi playing out of his mind in 3rd period of game 1 and game 2, this could easily be a 3-0 flyers lead
by historywillbemade on Jun 4, 2010 4:32 PM EDT up reply actions
This is the truth. This series could be 3-0 in any direction or 2-1 in any direction.
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by Travis Hughes on Jun 4, 2010 4:36 PM EDT up reply actions
and that’s why I believe the Flyers can win this thing and why I believed they could win the boston series. With the exception of game 3, in the boston series the flyers lost a two tight games much like this series.
by historywillbemade on Jun 4, 2010 4:38 PM EDT up reply actions
Well, while I agree that the Flyers can win this thing, I think Chicago is a much, much better team than Boston. I thought Boston had played over their heads to get to where they were and it showed once they lost Game 4.
"Tortorella’s got it all wrong ... Gaborik shouldn’t be messing with our skilled player." -Peter Luukko
Obviously Chicago is better but I don’t think that they are that much better than the Flyers
by historywillbemade on Jun 4, 2010 4:43 PM EDT up reply actions
But the situation is obviously not the same. While I’d still be watching to the bitter end, if we had lost game 3, I wouldn’t have bothered writing up an analysis of how the Flyers had everything needed to come back and win the series.
We got what we needed to have in game 3, and I don’t think the Flyers are going to let up. If anything I’m hoping we see some Lightning from the first line tonight, and possibly some magic from the reuninted Giroux/Ash/JVR combo. I hope that Lavvy gives the same pep talk to JVR that he gave to Giroux “go out, relax, play Hockey”. I like the idea of JVR parking some in front of Niemi as well.
Absolutely. If Leighton makes 3 more saves in Chicago we are up 3-0 now. This is a close series of two evenly matched teams. I like our chances for one reason and one reason only. #20 Mr Pronger! He is worth everything we paid to get him and that draft pick could be a really late pick if things continue our way!
Phigment
LOL, wow they thought we’ve played our best when we’ve had an invisible 1st line and leights playing meh. Probably one of those idiot fans over there that think we are some pathetic 7th seed that got lucky, rather than a good team that had an extremely streaky regular season that included dressing 7 different goalies. I know the Flyers can do this; the hawks haven’t shown me any reason that the Flyers are playing over their heads or are getting dominated. I know they can do this thing. I’ve watched this team come back from down 0-3 in game 7 in a series they trailed 0-3.
by historywillbemade on Jun 4, 2010 4:29 PM EDT up reply actions
great, puckdaddy is reporting that kane’s parents will be at tonights game.
and here come the pretzels…….
Eat what the monkey eats, then eat the monkey. -U.S. Navy survival guidance
Hopefully, fans don’t throw anything at them. But if they do, I’d be a lot less embarrassed if they throw change instead of beer/food.
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by Geoff Detweiler on Jun 4, 2010 4:29 PM EDT up reply actions
I think Shane Victorino would disagree with Dan McNeil
also, if he’s thinking more about the 15 year-old kid chanting bullshit rather than the game, i don’t think of him as a sports guy.
this guy’s an idiot and pussy, if you have a problem with someone, get up and say something, don’t sit behind a computer and write about it later, i’d hate for him to walk by someone getting robbed or something, he probably wouldn’t do anything, except write about it later. from the article it souund like he violated the good samaritan law and should be punished
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by Travis Hughes on Jun 4, 2010 4:36 PM EDT up reply actions
Kinda sad nobody commented on the picture…
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No, the kid asked for the stick and Keith gave him that look and walked away.
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by Travis Hughes on Jun 4, 2010 4:37 PM EDT up reply actions
well to be fair, I doubt Keith gives his sticks to kids at chicago practices either. Hockey players tend to be superstitious about things like that. However, he could have at least offered to sign something for the kid…
It reminds me of when you go to the NFL mini-camps and all the fans are there asking for the players gloves and stuff. You just don’t give that stuff away.
Nice job on the face on Keith though…
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by HockeyOutsiders on Jun 4, 2010 5:10 PM EDT up reply actions
Yeah but..
What the kid said was:
“Hey Mr. Keith can I have your stick? I just want to use it to knock out a few more of your teeth! You hillbilly. Can I? Please… Can I? Awww C’mon. Duncan?”
Quite frankly I absolutely love the fact that Duncan Keith is so agitated, as to actually be annoyed about a 10 year old kid asking for a souvenir stick. Could we maybe get the kid from Montreal out by the boards, so that Keith can come whizzing into the bench and give him a snow spray to the face?
I’d love to see a collection of some of these shots. Am I the only one who noticed Toews and Kane’s expressions from some of the bench shots. Kane in particular looked like he was about to cry at one point, he’s been so frustrated.
in keith’s defense, that stick is custom made for him, and he has a limited amound.
of course, he could have given the kid a puck
Eat what the monkey eats, then eat the monkey. -U.S. Navy survival guidance
OK, I will. He looks like an asshole by giving dirty looks to a little kid just because he’s wearing a Flyers’ Pronger tee.
"Tortorella’s got it all wrong ... Gaborik shouldn’t be messing with our skilled player." -Peter Luukko
Keith does look like he could be saying "f**k off" or something like that
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Is it just me or...
is everyone using more foul language than usual today? Are we doing this to spite McNeil or something?
Don't go by me
I swear like a sailor on a good day.
"Tortorella’s got it all wrong ... Gaborik shouldn’t be messing with our skilled player." -Peter Luukko
You are not alone...
but that’s why I rarely comment, haha. But, when I do I try to keep it G-rated like Mr. McNeil likes it.
by joe_digiacomo on Jun 4, 2010 4:40 PM EDT up reply actions
Hey Guys.
I am making fun of Philly fans, they are fat , loud, stupid and they swear a lot. Am I cool yet, am I? Huh? Huh? Huh?
This station is non-operational.
by jello44 on Jun 4, 2010 4:41 PM EDT reply actions 2 recs
LOL
It’s not like it’s some exclusive club or anything. It’s a fricken time-honored tradition on ESPN.
"Tortorella’s got it all wrong ... Gaborik shouldn’t be messing with our skilled player." -Peter Luukko
Brilliant.
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by Geoff Detweiler on Jun 4, 2010 4:45 PM EDT up reply actions
Sutherland tonight
I have a lot of respect for Sutherland. He has a philosophy and to my eye is the most consistent ref working right now.
Sutherland was actually picked by Kerry Fraser to partner with on the last game of Fraser’s legendary 37 year career. You all might recall that game — it was a game of some import on the last day of the season, and featured the Flyers playing the Rangers.
Turned out ok for us. ;)
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