Oh, the arrogance: Chicago has the parade planned
by Travis Hughes on Jun 9, 2010 1:22 PM EDT
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This doesn't even need to be editorialized. The following writing is, verbatim, right from the newsroom of WGN in Chicago.
For Blackhawks fans, it's not if, it's when. Destiny is in the air and the team is possibly a game away from causing its legion of fans to explode in celebration.
The city is anticipating a win and has planned a ticker tape parade Friday or Monday depending on when the Hawks clinch. Notice there's no wiggle room here, Hawk fans expect the team to bring home the Stanley Cup, something they haven't done since 1961.
If the Hawks win in Game 6 tonight, expect a Friday celebration. Should the Hawks lose tonight and win Friday, the city will have its celebration Monday.
Details about time and place haven't been disclosed, but if the White Sox winning the World Series is any indication, the Loop will be wall to wall people, so get there early. As in, if you want to see the actual Stanley Cup champions in person, dawn might be a good time to stake out a spot.
The words above aren't an implication on the writer of the article, who happens to be Pat Curry of WGN News. It's more of a window into how the city of Chicago feels about their 'Hawks, as highlighted by the lede. We notice that "there's no wiggle room here" and that Blackhawks fans clearly believe the Cup is their destiny.
The parade is planned for Friday or Monday, depending on when they win. They don't even think to entertain the possiblity that, you know, the Flyers could actually win a Game 7 on Friday night.
Sure, as has been pointed out, planning is a necessary logistical step, but even whispering that those plans are being made just absolutely stinks. By comparison, Philadelphia didn't announce a parade for the 2008 Phillies until October 30th, the day after the clinching win, and Mayor Michael Nutter routinely declined comment on parade plans.
This type of arrogance is reminiscent of the Yankees. That's not a compliment. You'd think a city with a sporting history such as Chicago's would be smarter than this.
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This is arrogance bordering on the psychotic.
Flyers, make them eat their presumptuous words.
GO FLYERS!!!!
#1 Flyers fan in England (originally from Southeastern PA)
by Orange and Black Forever on Jun 9, 2010 1:25 PM EDT reply actions
Like I said in a previous thread, Edmonton announced its parade route in 1987 after winning game 4. The Flyers won the next two games (5 and 6).
Yeah but Edmonton did get their parade.
Go Go Gadget Gagne
What if Broad Street Didn't Fight Back? History HAS been made. 5-7-10
5-8-10...the day the Purdue Boilermakers basketball team won the 2011 NCAA Championship!!
Only because the Flyers didn’t have Tim Kerr.
I swear to this very day that if Kerr were healthy for that series, the Flyers would have won the Cup. One of their biggest issues in the 1987 was an inability to score on the power play, which of course was Kerr’s specialty.
Do you see what happens when you find a stranger in the Alps?
Only because the Flyers didn’t have Tim Kerr.
I swear to this very day that if Kerr were healthy for that series, the Flyers would have won the Cup. One of their biggest issues in the 1987 was an inability to score on the power play, which of course was Kerr’s specialty.
I feel exactly the same way about 1985 as well (of course the injury list included Lindbergh, Poulin, and McCrimmon, as well as Kerr, in the Finals).
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by Orange and Black Forever on Jun 9, 2010 1:47 PM EDT up reply actions
At first I was just like, whatever, they are excited, desperate, stupid, now it’s bordering on just ridiculous.
Even if I wasn’t a Flyers fan I would want to see the Hawks lose so that they can be dealt a swift lesson on karma.
Go Go Gadget Gagne
What if Broad Street Didn't Fight Back? History HAS been made. 5-7-10
5-8-10...the day the Purdue Boilermakers basketball team won the 2011 NCAA Championship!!
I’m still like whatever, who cares, they are confident. There are plenty people on this site that expect a game 7 win on Friday for the Flyers if they get there.
doubleh even said:
I will say this: IF the Flyers find a way to get this to a Game 7, they will win the cup.
It’s just part of people being excited in a town that could use a championship. Honestly I’m kind of sick of this discussion and would rather talk about the game or anything about hockey in general than anything about fanbases, parade routes, or what the media is saying. I understand this si just to get some more added fuel in the fire, but seriously, enough.
by DLJr on Jun 9, 2010 1:35 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
I said that not in overconfidence, but based on a feeling. The Blackhawks have shown a lack of killer instinct up to this point and there will be an enormous amount of pressure on them to win it at home. I feel this may give the Flyers the upper hand.
So, as much as I’m sick of these shenanigans and seeming overconfidence from their media and subsequently their fanbase, it could work to the Flyers advantage in the long run. They are expected to win. That didn’t work out so well for the Cubs in 2008.
"Tortorella’s got it all wrong ... Gaborik shouldn’t be messing with our skilled player." -Peter Luukko
Well maybe everyone in Chicago has a feeling that they have a chance to finish this now based on their new lines, or the way they brought it to the Flyers early in game 5, or if it’s justa feeling of excitement. Who cares, they are enjoying their run, the papers and media are creating excitement for the citizens of Chicago, and selling ad space (which you know is their job). My point is this whole story line is getting ridiculous, but if that’s all everyone wants to talk about here, that’s fine,I’d just rather talk about the game or hockey.
Don’t get me wrong, if Philly was doing this, I’d be pissed off b/c I am superstitious and believe in the possibility of a jinx. But I’m just saying there is no point in bringing this up over and over and over. All this stuff isn’t for their die hard fans, it’s for the casual fan of Chicago, it’s about getting people excited in a city during a time where there are plenty of problems in the world, and a sports team can be a nice distraction.
Now that I’m done my rant, can we talk about the game tonight, strategy, how big the first goal will be, or anything truly hockey related.
You are making too much sense
STOP
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by HungryHungryPanda on Jun 9, 2010 1:45 PM EDT up reply actions
Hahaha sorry, I just was really excited to read the boards today, and talk hockey, and what people feel are keys for tonight, on both sides. Also, I really enjoyed the puck daddy article on the Conn Smythe, and was going to bring that up, but instead I’ve been drowned in this type of stuff all day.
And to doubleh, I’m not blaming you or anything, you didn’t post the stories. And I’m not blaming Travis, this does a great job of boiling the blood before a critical game, and is really just reporting what is out there.
I’m just bitching and being selfish, sorry.
See, I don’t see this as logic. I see it as objectivity, and some are better at it than others.
Confidence and excitement in one’s team can often be misconstrued as hubris and arrogance—it’s all in the point of view. Passion often comes out of fans in negative ways. Doesn’t mean the feelings aren’t valid.
"Tortorella’s got it all wrong ... Gaborik shouldn’t be messing with our skilled player." -Peter Luukko
What? I am defending my stance, not supporting his. Both of us are correct, from differing viewpoints. Philly fans are wholly within their rights to be offended at the seeming hubris coming out of every single Chicago media outlet and Chicago fans are wholly within their right to see it as an oasis in the desert of their sports scene and be excited for it.
"Tortorella’s got it all wrong ... Gaborik shouldn’t be messing with our skilled player." -Peter Luukko
Do I fan post- cause I wanted to talk about the Conn Smyth thing too.
However, I am still tempted…
"Game 7's are tough... It's a game that's made for men and our guys proved to be men today." -Laviolette
should come down to
pronger
toews
teeth
briere
richards
sharp/buff (either one needs a huge game tonight and/or Friday)
Also
And notice that when I made my statement, it was severely tempered with a big “IF they win Game 6.” You took my quote entirely out of context when you removed the portion where I said I had no idea which way the game would go tonight.
I am in no way overconfident about anything. Never have been, never will be.
"Tortorella’s got it all wrong ... Gaborik shouldn’t be messing with our skilled player." -Peter Luukko
I did not, I prefaced it with
There are plenty people on this site that expect a game 7 win on Friday for the Flyers if they get there.
Please notice the IF THEY GET THERE part. And my point wasn’t a Game 6 prediction,, it was your confidence in a Game 7 win for the Flyers. So you predicted the Flyers will win one of the next two games, and that’s all Chicago is doing, so basically there was no difference between what you said, and what Chicago has said.
Except the results are different if the Flyers only win one game… just saying
"Game 7's are tough... It's a game that's made for men and our guys proved to be men today." -Laviolette
If the complaining is about the overconfidence of Blackhawks fans verses the overconfidence of Flyers fans all the difference that can be possible.
Flyers fans need to be overconfident for 2 wins.
Blackhawks fans neeed to be overconfident for just 1.
So a Flyers fan saying we will definetly win game 7 if we win game 6 = A Blackhawks fan saying we will definetly win game 6 or game 7
"Game 7's are tough... It's a game that's made for men and our guys proved to be men today." -Laviolette
I guess you could say that. I should have said, in both, there in an absolute statement of victory at one point.
doubleh: If the Flyers win tonight, they will definitely win game 7
Chicago: If the Hawks lose game 6, they will definitely win game 7
It’s still not logically equivelent (die horse die). Doubleh really has to say they will win both games 6 and & in order for it to be equal. With all the talk about “logic” going on here…
"Game 7's are tough... It's a game that's made for men and our guys proved to be men today." -Laviolette
Exactly. Chicago is saying they will definitely win the cup; my statement makes no such declaration.
"Tortorella’s got it all wrong ... Gaborik shouldn’t be messing with our skilled player." -Peter Luukko
Your statement most certainly has a declaration, it just follows a qualifier. I’m not saying you are wrong by saying it, I’m just using you as an example, b/c when I read it this afternoon, I remember knocking on wood, so when i wanted an example, yours was the one I remembered first. Look you can try to get away from it, and say you aren’t like Chicago b/c you didn’t say anything about the Flyers definitely winning the cup b/c of the game 6 qualifier, but when I look at both situations, I don’t see much of a difference, just two people/groups being excited and having an opinion on what they saw.
I’m not saying I’m not like Chicago, but my declaration was never steeped in any sort of confidence whatsoever. My whole statement was prefaced around how I have no idea how tonight’s game will turn out, but that I had a feeling Game 7 would go their way. A suspicion does not equal confidence. It is not the same thing, but if that’s how you want to see it, that’s your prerogative. We will agree to disagree on the matter.
"Tortorella’s got it all wrong ... Gaborik shouldn’t be messing with our skilled player." -Peter Luukko
But you are assuming every Chicago fan’s opinion and everything you see is based on confidence rather than a feeling, or a hope, or a dream. That was part of my point in the beginning, that all this “confidence” might just be an outpouring of hope or excitement of the possibility of a cup. Hence:
Well maybe everyone in Chicago has a feeling that they have a chance to finish this now based on their new lines, or the way they brought it to the Flyers early in game 5, or if it’s justa feeling of excitement.And as far as the media goes, it’s their job to feed in to that hope and excitement, so they can sell more papers and ad space.
And my response was that while that’s true for some, for others the fans’ feelings (Chicago’s or Philly’s) are based on arrogance and something that’s not quite as pure as you paint it.
I’m just tired of the media portraying Chicago with sunshine and rainbows and Philly as the evil villain who’s lucky to be here. All these threads focusing on it don’t help, as it’s done nothing but get my dander up.
"Tortorella’s got it all wrong ... Gaborik shouldn’t be messing with our skilled player." -Peter Luukko
Again, and I really should stop, there is a difference even if it is subtle between being confident that your team will win and starting the celebrations assuming that they already have the win “locked up.” You wouldn’t start planning your wedding before she said “yes” to the engagement ring (a poor metaphor but the best I could do).
"Game 7's are tough... It's a game that's made for men and our guys proved to be men today." -Laviolette
Agreed, but this is just a plan for a parade that I’m sure has been discussed in Philly, just not leaked, b/c these things do take some planning.
This was all just to make a point that all cities are guilty of getting ahead of themselves when it comes to being close to a championship b/c it’s fun to dream about those things. To me, it’s pointless to continually bring it up and bash a city/fans for getting excited, even if you view it as arrogance. It’s not like I enjoy seeing it, and it gets me pissed off at first too, but you can only beat that dead horse so much, as I am right now… And please note, it took a couple threads dedicated to this topic to set me off about it.
I just used doubleh as an example b/c it popped into my head from earlier, and I apologize for it not being perfect, I didn’t really think this would get so hung up in the details, and people would be able to see my general point here.
But I get what you are saying. And funny you use that metaphor b/c that’s kind of what has happened with me and my girlfriend since we have done everything backwards so far anyways hahaha.
I’m trying to ignore it as much as possible, except for the whole living-here-talking-to-people part. Unfortunately, it has gotten to the point where I want two separate things from this series: 1) the Flyers to win their first Cup in my lifetime, 2) the people of Chicago to suffer.
Don’t get me wrong, I don’t want to care about the second one. I’d rather just watch my hockey team and fully invest myself in their successes and failures. However, the consequences of a Flyers loss have become more than existential.
Agreed
There are still Hawks fans that bring up Vancouver’s supposed planned parade route from last year. I don’t like these conversations either, it makes everyone irrationally angry.
"I have only space enough to add: against the assault of desperate pandas nothing can stand."
-ChicoMaki (channeling Mark Twain)
by HungryHungryPanda on Jun 9, 2010 1:40 PM EDT up reply actions
so your solution
is for cities not to leak the parade route?
we could also always put a muzzle on people who have no clue. That could be interesting.
My solution
It’s for dumbass reporters to stop writing about it. I’m not confident in my solution.
"I have only space enough to add: against the assault of desperate pandas nothing can stand."
-ChicoMaki (channeling Mark Twain)
by HungryHungryPanda on Jun 9, 2010 1:52 PM EDT up reply actions
I agree but am going to be nit picky about it anyways…
I think there is a difference, even if it is just a subtle one, between being confident your team is going to win and actually preparing a celebration ahead of them winning. None of us would be very good fans if we didn’t feel confident at this point of the season that the Flyers will win the next two games (judgement) but I don’t think we’d start planning a Flyers win the cup party just yet.
"Game 7's are tough... It's a game that's made for men and our guys proved to be men today." -Laviolette
They haven't even won the Cup yet
And they are already turning into the Red Wings.
Reminds me of the BoSox/Yanks. They turn into that which they hate.
"Tortorella’s got it all wrong ... Gaborik shouldn’t be messing with our skilled player." -Peter Luukko
Just one question
I want to know how accomodating we’re going to feel if the Flyers lose and this place is invaded by trolls?
"Tortorella’s got it all wrong ... Gaborik shouldn’t be messing with our skilled player." -Peter Luukko
If I’ve seen them on here during the series adding to conversations, they are more than welcome in my mind, b/c I wouldn’t expect any of those people to say anything but congrats on a great series, etc.
Wow, you have more faith in people than I do. I expect a fair amount of trolling and not necessarily all from Hawks fans.
"Tortorella’s got it all wrong ... Gaborik shouldn’t be messing with our skilled player." -Peter Luukko
Win or lose, trolling will be taken care of. Any intelligent discussion is always welcome, of course.
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by Travis Hughes on Jun 9, 2010 2:01 PM EDT up reply actions
Agreed
I wouldn’t be worried about Hawks trolls. Pens/Rangers/Caps? Sure. But I think we’ve heard from most of the Hawks fans we’re going to hear from at this point.
It’s hard for me to manufacture any ill will to the Blackhawks and their fans regardless of what they do. I like this Chicago team and for them to win a SC is as epic to their fans as it will be to us if we pull this out. So regardless, it’s a feel good story any way you look at it.
So I believe you are probably right about much trolling.
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by HockeyOutsiders on Jun 9, 2010 3:27 PM EDT up reply actions
I wouldn't be so sure
There are a lot of people in Chicago. My guess is you’re gonna have 1 or 2 of those trolls that create an account just to be an ass.
"I have only space enough to add: against the assault of desperate pandas nothing can stand."
-ChicoMaki (channeling Mark Twain)
by HungryHungryPanda on Jun 9, 2010 4:09 PM EDT up reply actions
A bunch came out of the woodwork in earlier series
I think we scared them away by going to OtF and NM and ripping them a new one, but it could happen again — if so, I apologize in advance on their behalf.
Agreed
Every fanbase has them, as much as we’d all like to deny it. Rest assured that if this does come to be, I will bitch smack them all the way back to Rush St.
"Tortorella’s got it all wrong ... Gaborik shouldn’t be messing with our skilled player." -Peter Luukko
We have the lovely one day waiting period though. It’s a lot of fun.
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by Travis Hughes on Jun 9, 2010 6:39 PM EDT up reply actions
Oh, good call
"I have only space enough to add: against the assault of desperate pandas nothing can stand."
-ChicoMaki (channeling Mark Twain)
by HungryHungryPanda on Jun 9, 2010 8:09 PM EDT up reply actions
Let Chicago build that perch as high as they can
they’ll just make a louder thud when they burn in from the fall.
Just a chew toy for the hockey gods
Buh bye Blackhawks
Nice run, get back to us after your cap problem get resolved.
Just a chew toy for the hockey gods
get back to you?
why? I’m enjoying this amazing Stanley Cup Finals.
An awesome Philly team. A very good Chicaog team.
This is nirvana. I couldn’t have asked for a more able and entertaining opponent. And if we lose the Cup, I’ll stricken with sadness, but I’ll be very happy for Philly fans.
C'mon, let's be brutally honest here
you Chicago fans are gripping bad since this is your only chance for cup in the coming years. You bet the farm and your predictions of a sweep have fallen apart.
Nirvana will be watching the Blackhawks lose on home ice in game 7.
Just a chew toy for the hockey gods
They are in a similar cap position as the Flyers. Lots of money committed to the top guys, but still have 9 forwards, 4 D, and 2 goalies locked up for next season already. how exactly are they screwed?
short term
we’ll lose some depth. But it does allow us to stock up on young talent/draft picks when we’re forced to trade Buff and Steeger.
It also allows us to bring up some young talent (like Kyle Beach) while putting us in position to be very strong again in 3-4 years time (when Kane, Keith and Toews are all in their prime).
It’s part of the cap era.
As I understand it, many Chi fans want to “sell high” on Buff anyway.
"Tortorella’s got it all wrong ... Gaborik shouldn’t be messing with our skilled player." -Peter Luukko
a fair number of them
myself included. the thing is, i think he’s a management favorite. My biggest fear is that they favor keeping Buff over a more consistent scorer like Sharp.
by puppetmasterp on Jun 9, 2010 2:28 PM EDT up reply actions
I think we all know you can probably color Sharp gone much like most feel Carter will be leaving the Flyers in the short term.
"Tortorella’s got it all wrong ... Gaborik shouldn’t be messing with our skilled player." -Peter Luukko
it all depends on where management wants to put their eggs.
Keeping Sharp makes more sense to me, especially since Kyle Beach is a huge player that could theoretically become player than Buff.
Sharp is such a hard worker. Hate to see him go.
So did we. You bastards! LOL
"Tortorella’s got it all wrong ... Gaborik shouldn’t be messing with our skilled player." -Peter Luukko
you’re probably right, though i think there’s a CHANCE we might be able to keep him if we get rid of Buff and Versteeg, and get lucky with filling in gaps with small contracts. I just don’t want to see him go WHILE KEEPING Buff. In my mind, the Sharp should be the last one we have to cut.
by puppetmasterp on Jun 9, 2010 2:31 PM EDT up reply actions
What do you guys think will be the return on those guys, with the contracts they have? Low cap hit 3rd line replacement and a 3rd rounder? A 2nd rounder?
depends on how high others value them
which i don’t feel like i can adequately gauge right now. If we get a replacement player, then yeah, a 3rd or 4th liner and maybe a 2nd rounder? Right now, we’re much more in a position to value picks than replacement players. I think we might have enough players in Rockford that we feel comfortable filling our ranks with if we need to.
by puppetmasterp on Jun 9, 2010 2:37 PM EDT up reply actions
if you read the C&B article on RFA’s yesterday, you will see that the Hawks are actually in big trouble with the cap. Stay for the comments where they discuss the fact that the Hawks will probably have to bury both Huet and Campbell in the minors to get some cap relief and even that might not do the trick.
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by HockeyOutsiders on Jun 9, 2010 2:38 PM EDT up reply actions
i think we’d LIKE to bury Huet in the minors, but i don’t think it’ll be that easy…that’s the REAL problem contract there, especially with Niemi being a free agent.
by puppetmasterp on Jun 9, 2010 2:40 PM EDT up reply actions
that's a bit much
Huet has been a huge part of Niemi’s success. He’s the ultimate team player.
His performance left a lot to be desired, but that’s the gamble the Hawks took when they decided to change his overall style of play at the beginning of the season. He just never got comfortable…
That's a fair point
and I’m admittedly trying to be funny while sick, which is a bad combo.
Still, as a fan I have seen both the benefit having an extra coach on the bench and the animosity towards a big money acquisition that did not pan out. Could have gone either way.
a reality we're already well aware of?
nice try. A for effort.
by puppetmasterp on Jun 9, 2010 2:42 PM EDT up reply actions
you blackhawk fans remind me of wind up toys
you crank em up and watch them wobble around
Just a chew toy for the hockey gods
that actually wasn’t my intent. I think the Hawks sooner rather than later salary cap hell is a very interesting topic of conversation, because it’s a very grim reality that quite possibly within 2 weeks, this team that we currently see competing in the SC will be no longer.
As for Hawks fans in general, I have a very good friend I play hockey with who is a Blackhawks fan. He’s been at games 1, 5 and will fly up to Chicago for game 7 if it comes to that. He’s the nicest guy in the world and is extremely intelligent with his fandom. Hard for me to paint “all” Hawks fans with a broad brush, when a guy I know is so down to earth and most Hawks fans posting here seem to be well-read, intelligent people.
Could be that Travis and Geoff do a good job of banning the idiots right away though, haha.
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by HockeyOutsiders on Jun 9, 2010 3:24 PM EDT up reply actions
You've got a good point HO
Where would we be without insightful posts from Chicago fan like
fuck you and your “logic”
Just a chew toy for the hockey gods
You realize he/she was being sarcastic right? That was directed at me, and I definitely took it as sarcasm, especially when you read their other comments in that thread.
yes,
but it seems to be a on way street with Blackhawk fan. They can dish the zingers but cry foul when they get their fenders dented.
Just a chew toy for the hockey gods
Keep going
You’re making Hawks fans look better with every post you make.
"I have only space enough to add: against the assault of desperate pandas nothing can stand."
-ChicoMaki (channeling Mark Twain)
by HungryHungryPanda on Jun 9, 2010 4:11 PM EDT up reply actions
Actually, I think the Flyers might be slightly better off
but only slightly. The Hawks are already a million over the cap, is it? ugh. But I hardly expect spectr, or any other like-minded Blues fans, to bother to notice Philly’s cap situation b/c he’s too busy making over-generalized jabs at the people of chicago…to whomever will listen (i.e. not many people).
by puppetmasterp on Jun 9, 2010 2:25 PM EDT up reply actions
He probably doesn’t know anything about our cap sit, but we’ve jokingly said here one of our slogans should be “Philadelphia Flyers: Snuggled up against the salary cap”.
One of the main reasons I want to win the cup now is that I think going forward the Flyers have less of a shot than Chicago will. We have lots of vets, cap issues, etc. The time is now.
"Tortorella’s got it all wrong ... Gaborik shouldn’t be messing with our skilled player." -Peter Luukko
that makes sense
we know that even with our cap issues, our core is staying in place. And they’re ALL really young, so that should provide some stability for a while.
by puppetmasterp on Jun 9, 2010 2:29 PM EDT up reply actions
brutally honest?
let’s do that. You’ve been tagging around the blogs of each team Chicago has played, rooting and scrumming for us to lose, which is fine, but I find it insanely amusing.
Those are the ones who bug me for some reason
The fans whose teams are long gone or never were and who seek to find common cause with the current opponent of their enemy. Scavenger trolls.
Funny how there can be a dozen things that drive most people nuts and it’s no sweat but then there are those things that just…..
by flyersfaninchicago on Jun 9, 2010 4:27 PM EDT up reply actions
i agree with you
but I’d be more worried about the plague he seemingly brings our opponents. I’m not saying the curse won’t be broken, just firing a warning shot to you all.
Last Year
Red Wings had c hampagne all chilled and ready last year(shown on TV ) but that bird team from Pgh and the player we all love to boo won the Cup.
The Chicago Tribune has been super effective at getting us off our game (ie talking about hockey), BSH. They are like the Sean Avery of media.
Play your game, Flyers fans. Play your game.
That’s an insult to Sean Avery! You take that back!
"Tortorella’s got it all wrong ... Gaborik shouldn’t be messing with our skilled player." -Peter Luukko
Ugh a defense of Sean Avery… I picked the wrong day to stop sniffing glue…
"Game 7's are tough... It's a game that's made for men and our guys proved to be men today." -Laviolette
Excellent “Airplane” reference… ;)
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by Orange and Black Forever on Jun 9, 2010 2:28 PM EDT up reply actions
PatterPoet’s, that is.
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by Orange and Black Forever on Jun 9, 2010 2:28 PM EDT up reply actions
Dear Hockey gods,
Please strike down these unworthy offenders – for the honor of all the is right and good.
Facepalm
When you’re planning on shutting down a good portion of one of the major economic nerve centers for not only the country, but the globe, it’s usually a good idea to have a plan in place. This is not carried out by the “arrogant” team. This is done by the city which needs to coordinate diversion of traffic, bringing on additional police force for security, etc in a responsible manner.
Seriously, guys, use your brains for a couple minutes.
Tremendously tremendous
You’re correct, but it’s also obvious.
Go back and read how the story got out in the first place. It’s the public broadcasting the parade as a fait accompli which is the real issue. THAT’S what people are objecting to, not proper civic planning.
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by Orange and Black Forever on Jun 9, 2010 3:42 PM EDT up reply actions
Indeed. And yet, the City of Philadelphia was able to not publicize shutting down a good portion of its infrastructure prior to winning the World Series. There is nothing wrong with making the plan. It is the publicizing (whether intentionally or through a leak), and assumption that the plan will be necessary that is humorous (and tempting to the hockey gods).
Honor is no substitute for victory.
There are so many jokes....
About the relative importance between cities, but I’ll leave them alone because I agree with you.
I was just wondering
For sake of argument, when the hawks raise the cup on the ice tonight, do you clap or boo?
Only if I may ask you
For the sake of argument, when the Flyers raise the Cup on the ice on Friday, do you clap or boo?
#1 Flyers fan in England (originally from Southeastern PA)
by Orange and Black Forever on Jun 9, 2010 3:54 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
As would I.
#1 Flyers fan in England (originally from Southeastern PA)
by Orange and Black Forever on Jun 9, 2010 4:07 PM EDT up reply actions
I will be sobbing like a little bitch but still clapping.
by Jackmehoeffer on Jun 9, 2010 4:09 PM EDT up reply actions
Why would you even do that, really? Are you that big of a d*ck? It’s not hard to write “if”, and get an honest answer, but then again, that would mean you actually were interested in an answer as opposed to pissing people off. Don’t give your fanbase a bad name.
I actually didn’t intend on that being a dick question, but now that i re-read it, I guess it is kind of presumptious.
by Jackmehoeffer on Jun 9, 2010 4:06 PM EDT up reply actions
Well in that case, as someone that will be at the game tonight, I plan on giving the Flyers a standing O regardless of the outcome. If the Hawks win, I will certainly clap and take pictures. Winning the cup in something special, and should be recognize at such, even if you don’t like the team that wins it.
People GD better cheer this Flyers team after what they’ve accomplished this year. I don’t want to hear from the WIP crowd that they “didn’t win it all, so there’s nothing to be proud of.” That’s horseshit. If they lose tonight, they will go down as being one of the most beloved teams in Philly history. The 1993 Phils lost the WS, but they been damn near canonized. I expect the same here.
"Tortorella’s got it all wrong ... Gaborik shouldn’t be messing with our skilled player." -Peter Luukko
by doubleh on Jun 9, 2010 4:19 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
exactly how I feel. Also, it might be important to recognize that this Flyer team has given the Hawks the best run for their money in these playoffs. Nashville played a good series, but the Canucks and Sharks who are both arguably more talented than the Flyers didn’t put up the fight that this 18th place team did.
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by HockeyOutsiders on Jun 9, 2010 4:37 PM EDT up reply actions
I am positively certain
That there is a parade route, date, budget and committee already well geared up in Philly. The difference is, nobody in Chicago government can shut the hell up about it.
Funny
I always thought the Chicago politicos were just as weasely a bunch as the Philly ones.
"Tortorella’s got it all wrong ... Gaborik shouldn’t be messing with our skilled player." -Peter Luukko
i like many of our politicos...
but for the most part, Chicago’s reputation is well deserved.
Meh
They are all the same. I like some of ours, too, but they are a shady bunch.
"Tortorella’s got it all wrong ... Gaborik shouldn’t be messing with our skilled player." -Peter Luukko
well, i should have said
that I used to like them. I actually live in Joy-see now. There’s nothing redeeming about the politicos in this state. They’re shady, they steal and they give nothing of value back to the community.
Just for interest's sake...
The original statement from WGN:
For Blackhawks fans, it’s not if, it’s when. Destiny is in the air and the team is possibly a game away from causing its legion of fans to explode in celebration.
The city is anticipating a win and has planned a ticker tape parade Friday or Monday depending on when the Hawks clinch. Notice there’s no wiggle room here, Hawk fans expect the team to bring home the Stanley Cup, something they haven’t done since 1961.
If the Hawks win in Game 6 tonight, expect a Friday celebration. Should the Hawks lose tonight and win Friday, the city will have its celebration Monday.
Details about time and place haven’t been disclosed, but if the White Sox winning the World Series is any indication, the Loop will be wall to wall people, so get there early. As in, if you want to see the actual Stanley Cup champions in person, dawn might be a good time to stake out a spot.
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#1 Flyers fan in England (originally from Southeastern PA)
by Orange and Black Forever on Jun 9, 2010 4:22 PM EDT reply actions
WGN being such a baseball company,
Somebody must have finally got their superstitious sense working.
This makes me HATE CHICAGO SPORTS MORE THAN THE COWBOYS, YANKEES, AND THE PATRIOTS. COMBINED.
I wasn't even a year old but I stayed up to be outside the Vet with my Dad and Mom when the Phillies won the World Series 1980.
I used to have some love for the bears but not anymore whether we win or lose I hope the cubs never win a championship for the rest of their existence. This is the most classless stuff ever and everybody will say that great. If philly was cocky like that all news and espn would say we were shitbags. but not them?
I wasn't even a year old but I stayed up to be outside the Vet with my Dad and Mom when the Phillies won the World Series 1980.
by Christopher A on Jun 9, 2010 4:28 PM EDT up reply actions
The Blackhawks won’t eclipse the NY Giants, Cowboys, Lakers, Yankees, and Mets (among others) for sheer hatred on my list.
The fans, perhaps. The team, not quite.
Sometimes I think the surest sign that intelligent life exists elsewhere in the universe is that none of it has tried to contact us. - C&H
*i might have a lasting hatred for the fans, but not so much for the team.
Series ain’t over yet, though.
Sometimes I think the surest sign that intelligent life exists elsewhere in the universe is that none of it has tried to contact us. - C&H
How could anyone say that a team they’ve known for 10 days eclipses the hatred built up for the Cowboys/Giants/Yanks/Mets/Pens/Rags for years and years?
"Tortorella’s got it all wrong ... Gaborik shouldn’t be messing with our skilled player." -Peter Luukko
Blackhawks are on my top 5 hate list
with
Hitler
Redwings
Crackerjack Co.
Cubs
and Cowboys
Just a chew toy for the hockey gods
OK, well for you
Because you are a fan of a team that shares their division—but I find it odd coming from a Flyers’ fan, since we certainly have enough teams in our own division to hate in the Pens, Rangers, and Debbies.
"Tortorella’s got it all wrong ... Gaborik shouldn’t be messing with our skilled player." -Peter Luukko
yes. these guys are like
Buffalo or Toronto or the Bruins or Oilers or Canadiens, teams that we either match up with a few years in a row or we both peak and meet each other in the SCF or ECF. Being the most hated team in hockey has the benefit of many temporary rivalries and we’ll only be in this place with the Hawks for as many years as we’re both at the top.
But the Rangers are forever.
by flyersfaninchicago on Jun 9, 2010 7:01 PM EDT up reply actions
What this has to do with what happens on the Rink?
NOTHING AT ALL. Fuck this lets just watch hockey and bitch about each other afterward…for fucks sake.
And while Anahiem returns to the locker room, Todd Bertuzzi is cuffed and returns to the squad car.
by Detroit Must Die on Jun 9, 2010 5:37 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
i fail to see this as arrogance
Critical difference between the quoted article (which returns a 404 via the link you provided) and the 2008 Philadelphia Phillies win. At least the quote from the article you provided doesn’t give a source from the city proposing dates, times, or location.
Perhaps some excited Hawks fan that has some knowledge of the planning spilled the beans. If there is some official press release from the city announcing some concrete plans regarding the Hawks’ guaranteed victory, sure, that may be arrogance. What is being quoted here is conjecture (unless there is a press release touting the parade schedule) which is then being heaped upon the city of chicago’s population as if they act entitled.
Let’s not be bogus about this whole thing. We’re seeing some great hockey and a great end to the season. There have been some truly interesting story lines in this finals. This is not one of them.
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