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Flyers Free Agency, July 1 Discussion Thread: Rumors, Trades, Goalies And More

Today is the day. Or, maybe it isn't. Either way, we're here and set for all kinds of free agency madness. Will the Flyers sign a goalie today? Will they jump on a defenseman, or maybe a winger?

Here's our coverage so far, so you can catch up with the discussion:

And... here we go.

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So…free agents eh?

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by EREX21 on Jul 1, 2010 11:31 AM EDT reply actions  

Total speculation: Bill Guerin. Yay or nay?

by Ben Feldman on Jul 1, 2010 11:32 AM EDT reply actions  

For the Flyers? Nay

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by The Dark on Jul 1, 2010 11:32 AM EDT up reply actions  

Nay, plus why would he sign here to play on the 3rd line when he can play on Crosby’s or Malkin’s line?

by The Legend on Jul 1, 2010 11:33 AM EDT up reply actions  

they’re cutting him loose

Preaching the Inglewood Jack

by CoburnsCuddleBuddy on Jul 1, 2010 11:35 AM EDT up reply actions  

Yay, worked for the Pens, would work for us

Preaching the Inglewood Jack

by CoburnsCuddleBuddy on Jul 1, 2010 11:35 AM EDT up reply actions  

My running look may be a bit of a stumbling look for the next day or two…I’m wrapping up a couple major projects for my MBA.

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by The Dark on Jul 1, 2010 11:32 AM EDT reply actions  

Not Flyers related but it looks like Biron is going to sign with the Rangers

by The Legend on Jul 1, 2010 11:33 AM EDT reply actions  

And just twelve months ago he wanted a long-term deal $4-5 million per year. Might have screwed up the rest of his career because of that.

by Ben Feldman on Jul 1, 2010 11:35 AM EDT up reply actions  

his butterfly defect screwed up the rest of his career, just his salary wishes :)

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by CoburnsCuddleBuddy on Jul 1, 2010 11:36 AM EDT up reply actions  

Do Gramps tweets annoy anyone else or is it just me?

Looking forward to the Kevin Kolb era.
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by EREX21 on Jul 1, 2010 11:36 AM EDT reply actions  

Oh please, oh please, oh please, oh please…..

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by Orange and Black Forever on Jul 1, 2010 11:39 AM EDT up reply actions  

Said with enthusiasm, not sarcasm. :)

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by Orange and Black Forever on Jul 1, 2010 11:40 AM EDT up reply actions  

Who is better Tallinder the Swede or Lydman the Fin

by chrislanci on Jul 1, 2010 11:40 AM EDT up reply actions  

Thank goodness for BSH. I’m not allowed to see the twitter feed compilation over on Puck Daddy, but I know you guys are going to bring all the updates i need. :)

by SteelBirdFlyer on Jul 1, 2010 11:38 AM EDT reply actions  

Id like Nabokov, but if Dan Ellis only wants 4 mil over 2 years, then that has to be the go to option

Dan Ellis
Tallinder
Armstrong

by bleedorangewhiteblack on Jul 1, 2010 11:39 AM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah Ellis and Leights at less than Nabokov is good deals but I am hoping Nabokov Bironed himself into a corner and will come here at 3million.

by chrislanci on Jul 1, 2010 11:42 AM EDT up reply actions  

Agreed

With Ellis, you can see Leighton getting a decent number of starts. Whichever goes on a hot streak, you play them. The odds of both going soft at the same time are minimal, especially if the Flyers upgrade at 5th D-man.
The only things I’d say are that Armstrong better not want more money than his current salary, and that Michalek may be a better pairing for Bartulis (unless they’re looking for someone to play with Timonen and Cobie moves to 5th D).

by MaximumTalbot on Jul 1, 2010 12:00 PM EDT up reply actions  

I am going to be missing all the fun, I will be leaving for the airport shortly.

Hopefully, someway I can commandeer a laptop or TV from someone. :P

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by jello44 on Jul 1, 2010 11:39 AM EDT reply actions  

Where you headed?

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by EREX21 on Jul 1, 2010 11:39 AM EDT up reply actions  

Dallas (of all places) for a convention.

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by jello44 on Jul 1, 2010 11:45 AM EDT up reply actions  

Have fun with that.

Looking forward to the Kevin Kolb era.
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by EREX21 on Jul 1, 2010 11:48 AM EDT up reply actions  

Thanks.

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by jello44 on Jul 1, 2010 11:53 AM EDT up reply actions  

what’s up with bobby ryan?

by asmallvictory31 on Jul 1, 2010 11:39 AM EDT reply actions  

we’re not moving Carter, so nothing probably.

by bleedorangewhiteblack on Jul 1, 2010 11:39 AM EDT up reply actions  

I just read the Ducks might (I emphasize might) make a push for Kovalchuk, which may be contributing to the delays on Ryan’s new contract.

by Ben Feldman on Jul 1, 2010 11:40 AM EDT up reply actions  

Ooooooooooooh.

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by Travis Hughes on Jul 1, 2010 11:43 AM EDT up reply actions  

Oh no, Ducks. Please don’t do that. :/

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by Katchis on Jul 1, 2010 11:45 AM EDT up reply actions  

Hamhuis going to market no deal in Pitt.

by LegionofDoom on Jul 1, 2010 11:40 AM EDT reply actions  

…which means Homer wins that one! :)

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by Orange and Black Forever on Jul 1, 2010 11:41 AM EDT up reply actions  

So we essentially get a 3rd rounder for Parent, plus don’t we get Nashville’s 7th if he signs with anybody but us? I say that’s a win for us.

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by Lindbergh 31 on Jul 1, 2010 11:58 AM EDT up reply actions  

Still may end up there, of course.

by Ben Feldman on Jul 1, 2010 11:42 AM EDT up reply actions  

Of course. But one can hope he gets moved somewhere else. Either way we got a decent draft pick.

by LegionofDoom on Jul 1, 2010 11:44 AM EDT up reply actions  

Shhhh! ;)

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by Orange and Black Forever on Jul 1, 2010 11:44 AM EDT up reply actions  

Marc Staal for Coburn?

Any thoughts on this. Coburn wants Staal money, but he isnt worth it and the flyers hopefully wont give it to him.

But oddly the Rangers dont feel Staal is worth it. A little swap of rights eh?

If we move Carcillo, let go of Asham, and move Boosh, and get Ellis for only 2 mil or so.

by bleedorangewhiteblack on Jul 1, 2010 11:41 AM EDT reply actions  

I would like Staal, yes, but do you really see that happening intradivision?

by Derek F on Jul 1, 2010 11:42 AM EDT up reply actions  

i mean here’s the thing. If the flyers are faced with losing Coburn b/c they dont want to overspend and the rangers are faced with losing Staal.

Despite the interdivsion, it’s a feasible great option for both teams. Staal would be money here. And Coburn is still a solid player. If Staal were to walk and the rangers fans get nothing, they might be more pissed about that. Staal would be a flyer, but at least they have a good defenseman with great potential in Coburn.

by bleedorangewhiteblack on Jul 1, 2010 11:45 AM EDT up reply actions  

We did trade them Lindros who was the face of the franchise so yeah I do.

by chrislanci on Jul 1, 2010 11:43 AM EDT up reply actions  

Lindros was a mostly useless rag doll, Staal is an elite d-man that hasn’t hit his prime

by Derek F on Jul 1, 2010 11:46 AM EDT up reply actions  

Coburn will go a bit cheaper than Staal, so the rangers would probably be willing to spend that, at that point especially if they were unable to keep Staal. And Coburn isnt a bad consolation prize.

by bleedorangewhiteblack on Jul 1, 2010 11:42 AM EDT up reply actions  

Asham is not coming back no chance.

by chrislanci on Jul 1, 2010 11:43 AM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah, they told Asham they’re not re-signing him. He said he was told the Flyers wanted to keep him but they weren’t sure it would work under the salary cap. Asham said he wanted to say, but he understands, no hard feelings, etc.

by Ben Feldman on Jul 1, 2010 11:44 AM EDT up reply actions  

They need a more offensive guy on that 3rd line Asham can’t keep up we Giroux and JVR or if I had my way Carter and JVR.

by chrislanci on Jul 1, 2010 11:45 AM EDT up reply actions  

There was a time when your 3rd line was your checkers and grinders … And I hope you mean moving van Riemsdyk up and not Carter down. He is not a #3 center on any team.

by ic0n67 on Jul 1, 2010 11:48 AM EDT up reply actions  

But ...

The advantage of moving Carter to the “third” line actually means that the “top” line would be Hartnell-Briere-Leino, the “second” line would be JVR-Carter-Giroux, and the “third” line would be Gagne-Richards-Carcillo/FA. Seems like a familiar scenario … oh right – the Penguins!!! And in fact, I think it woudl be a huge boon to roll three fully capable lines like that (I was arguing for it last season already, when no one knew if Giroux would be a real threat).

by MaximumTalbot on Jul 1, 2010 12:04 PM EDT up reply actions  

Today should be interesting. After the Leighton signing, I wonder whether we sign a Turco/Nabokov type. Leighton deserves to be the starter. He could have easily left and been the surefire starter in Columbus, Atlanta or a number of other places. Seems unfair to relegate him to backup after all he did last season. Unfortunately (maybe?), this means we would likely not sign a Nabokov, who I hardly think would sign to be a veteran backup to Leighton. Thoughts? Does the Leighton signing mean no goalie today? Or does Leighton go back to backup status (undeservedly?)?

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by chillicothe20 on Jul 1, 2010 11:41 AM EDT reply actions  

Leighton does not deserve to be the starter. He did well, but this isnt a charity case. We need a better goalie. Our defense made him look better than what he is.

by bleedorangewhiteblack on Jul 1, 2010 11:43 AM EDT up reply actions  

why didnt he leave then? to a place where he KNEW he’d start? Why take the chance at being a backup again? Does he love us that much?

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by chillicothe20 on Jul 1, 2010 11:45 AM EDT up reply actions  

Because even HE knows he’s not a starter in the NHL.

by jtl28 on Jul 1, 2010 11:46 AM EDT up reply actions  

why isnt he a starter in Columbus (or another losing team)?

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by chillicothe20 on Jul 1, 2010 11:47 AM EDT up reply actions  

I don’t think they are giving up on Steve Mason yet there. And in ATL, I think they think Pavelec is worth taking a longer look at.

by SteelBirdFlyer on Jul 1, 2010 11:52 AM EDT up reply actions  

agreed. you put Leighton on a team without Timmonen and Pronger, and he’s no starter.

by bleedorangewhiteblack on Jul 1, 2010 11:47 AM EDT up reply actions  

I guess I give him too much credit for last season. If we bring in a solid other goalie, I don’t mind Leights as the backup (actually that is great depth). I just feel he will be a bit shafted just sitting all the time.

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by chillicothe20 on Jul 1, 2010 11:50 AM EDT up reply actions  

if he is good enough, he will play. if he isn’t, then he will be a back-up. it’s up to him, so how is that shafted? you can’t award him because he did alright last year…

by phinally on Jul 1, 2010 11:51 AM EDT up reply actions  

he was a great starter last season, and had he not been hurt, we might have been a much higher seed (4/5) in the playoffs. In the end, our being the 7 was better, but we didnt foresee that.

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by chillicothe20 on Jul 1, 2010 11:53 AM EDT up reply actions  

he was 16-5-2 in the reg season. Defense aside, thats damn good

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by chillicothe20 on Jul 1, 2010 11:55 AM EDT up reply actions  

the same way i have flashbacks of Biron giving the puck up to Crosby on the door step

i just cant get by Leighton letting Kane score that extra soft goal to win the cup. And i dont think the flyers players will either. Its an image that given the magnitude of the situation you dont forget. I think the flyers know this. Leighton has earned being a backup here. Thats it. If he doesnt give up those softees in game 6, it might be a different story. But in that big of a game you have to stop those pucks, doesnt matter what you’ve done before.

i get that you feel bad for him, but you have to take the emotion out of it.

by bleedorangewhiteblack on Jul 1, 2010 12:02 PM EDT up reply actions  

Leighton would have to go to a team with great defense to be a starter… like say the Flyers.

But hopefully a better guy like Ellis, will be even better with our defense in front of him.

by bleedorangewhiteblack on Jul 1, 2010 11:48 AM EDT up reply actions  

Because the only place that might want him where he could probably be guaranteed a large number of starts is probably Edmonton.

by Ben Feldman on Jul 1, 2010 11:47 AM EDT up reply actions  

I don’t think Leighton is the guaranteed starter at all, I think he will expect to have to earn the job in camp whether it is vs a FA they bring in or people they already have in the organization.

by Derek F on Jul 1, 2010 11:43 AM EDT up reply actions  

He has earned the right to compete for the job. If he wins it he wins it and he would be the best goalie we have and that is fine, but if he doesn’t he doesn’t and someone else can be the starter.

by ic0n67 on Jul 1, 2010 11:46 AM EDT up reply actions  

he’ll have a chance, but he’ll have to be amazing to take it from whoever the FLyers are signing to be the perceived starter. I mean if you sign another goalie as your starter and he isnt, that looks pretty bad, so Leights will have to be amazing in training camp.

Maybe it will force him to work on giving up those softees.

by bleedorangewhiteblack on Jul 1, 2010 11:47 AM EDT up reply actions  

ALSO: What’s the deal with Pyrarola (sp?)? Do we try to keep him? What about other Phantoms that are FAs?

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by chillicothe20 on Jul 1, 2010 11:42 AM EDT reply actions  

For those of us at work

Are there any live radio shows? I know NHL Live will be from noon to 2 pm EST…I’m not sure that’s a quality enough program and long enough to sate me.

by Snevik on Jul 1, 2010 11:44 AM EDT reply actions  

I’ve been listening to XM Home Ice all morning, yeah. TSN’s stuff might be streaming audio.

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by Travis Hughes on Jul 1, 2010 11:46 AM EDT up reply actions  

TSN is blocked out of country. At least, the video is, and I can’t find an audio-only stream.

I’m assuming XM isn’t available on a free stream?

by Snevik on Jul 1, 2010 11:49 AM EDT up reply actions  

Nah, unfortunately.

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by Travis Hughes on Jul 1, 2010 12:01 PM EDT up reply actions  

I have a feeling all those guys are going to do is read tweets from the TSN folks. Wish they’d just simulcast TSN’s program on NHL Network starting now instead of switching over at two.

by Ben Feldman on Jul 1, 2010 12:03 PM EDT up reply actions  

Which is fine, because I need to stop reading things that aren’t disability law rulings pretty soon.

by Snevik on Jul 1, 2010 12:05 PM EDT up reply actions  

Goddamn NHl Live led off with an advertisement: “Chicago Blackhawks fans! Your team are the 2009-2010 Stanley Cup Champions…”

Ugh.

by Snevik on Jul 1, 2010 12:09 PM EDT up reply actions  

Also 10 minutes in and the feed isn’t up yet…

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by hintzy64 on Jul 1, 2010 12:12 PM EDT up reply actions  

TSNBobMcKenzie:
Sounds like Meszaros is going from Tampa to Philly for a second round pick.

by LegionofDoom on Jul 1, 2010 11:47 AM EDT reply actions  

Signed through ‘13-14 at $4 million per year. There’s your D-man.

by Ben Feldman on Jul 1, 2010 11:48 AM EDT up reply actions  

dont know much about him, and thats a lot of money he better be good.

by bleedorangewhiteblack on Jul 1, 2010 11:49 AM EDT up reply actions  

I just looked real quick and he was a first round pick, but has been negative almost every season, but played for crap teams (OTT, TB).

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by Psy09 on Jul 1, 2010 11:50 AM EDT up reply actions  

TB has no plus players. Their Goal Differential was -43.

by chrislanci on Jul 1, 2010 11:53 AM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah, that’s why I had to throw in the crap teams part, haha.

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by Psy09 on Jul 1, 2010 11:54 AM EDT up reply actions  

Cap hit’s a bit steeper than I’d prefer, but he’s young and good.

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by The Dark on Jul 1, 2010 11:50 AM EDT up reply actions  

1) Can he anchor a third pairing?

2) Does this mean Coburn won’t be signed?

3) Is that contract an overpay?

by Snevik on Jul 1, 2010 11:50 AM EDT up reply actions  

we need another defenseman other than him if we’re not signing Coburn

by bleedorangewhiteblack on Jul 1, 2010 11:52 AM EDT up reply actions  

going just from Coburn to Meszaros is not enough. even with an upgrade at goalie.

by bleedorangewhiteblack on Jul 1, 2010 11:52 AM EDT up reply actions  

I can’t imagine the Flyers aren’t going to sign Coburn, even with Meszaros.

by Ben Feldman on Jul 1, 2010 11:52 AM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah, but is signing a defenseman in the 3-4 mil range mean that we’re pairing that person with Kimmo and getting some bargain bin third pairing guys?

This might be an indication of what Cobie’s agent is reaching for, at very least. If he wants 3+, might as well try and upgrade for a little more.

by Snevik on Jul 1, 2010 11:54 AM EDT up reply actions  

Better #2 … you would pay him 4m and not Coburn 4m? What is Coburn asking for if they trade for a 4m contract? Who is going to sign Coburn to the offersheet and for how much?

by ic0n67 on Jul 1, 2010 11:52 AM EDT up reply actions  

1) I’d actually pair him with Timonen. Meszaros has occasional moments of Utter Stupid, and Timmo’s the best one to cover for that.

2) I hope not

3) At his current level of play, probably, but if he keeps developing, it’ll be a steal.

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by The Dark on Jul 1, 2010 11:55 AM EDT up reply actions  

Better or worse than Hamhuis? I wasn’t too high on Danny Boy; it sounds like Tampa people are echoing that sentiment with Meszaros.

by Snevik on Jul 1, 2010 11:59 AM EDT up reply actions  

Different? I’d probably consider Hamhuis a little better, but Meszaros is three years younger, so it may be polish moreso than talent.

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by The Dark on Jul 1, 2010 12:03 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah, I think Hamhuis is probably a little more solid defensively, Meszaros might have more offensive upside? But I get most of my info about players that are not Flyers from playing fantasy hockey, so take that for what it’s worth. (little to nothing :P)

by SteelBirdFlyer on Jul 1, 2010 12:08 PM EDT up reply actions  

That’s my worry – unless Meszaros plays with Timonen, he goes have some serious gaffes that will completely expose him on the third pairing.

by MaximumTalbot on Jul 1, 2010 12:06 PM EDT up reply actions  

Also, for just a second round pick? That’s ridiculous.

by Ben Feldman on Jul 1, 2010 11:49 AM EDT up reply actions  

Here’s a summary for the SBN site:

http://www.sbnation.com/nhl/players/55057/Andrej_Meszaros

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by Orange and Black Forever on Jul 1, 2010 11:50 AM EDT up reply actions  

I don’t know a lot about him. He shoots left, but he has a cool name, is just 24 and is signed for a number of years.

by Ben Feldman on Jul 1, 2010 11:50 AM EDT up reply actions  

interesting, that’s reasonable

by Derek F on Jul 1, 2010 11:50 AM EDT up reply actions  

CHI

Chicago lost Versteeg, Byfuglein, Sopel, and maybe Ladd. Ouch we are only going to get better and if Pittsburg loses Gonchar and Hamhuis the Division is ours.

by chrislanci on Jul 1, 2010 11:47 AM EDT reply actions  

Meszaros to Flyers sounds like a done deal.

No, no, noooooo! I don’t like that guy! I never liked him in Tampa, won’t like him in Philly. :/

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by Katchis on Jul 1, 2010 11:50 AM EDT reply actions  

I was going to ask how you felt about him. He’s not so good?

by Ben Feldman on Jul 1, 2010 11:50 AM EDT up reply actions  

I call him Mr Give-away… I don’t know, it was painful watching him with the puck. I was expecting him losing it every sec.

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by Katchis on Jul 1, 2010 11:54 AM EDT up reply actions  

sounds like me with Coburn. If we’re going to replace Coburn with him. I’d prefer Meszaros. But we still need another defensemen then.

by bleedorangewhiteblack on Jul 1, 2010 11:57 AM EDT up reply actions  

I like Coburn, but I always felt the blue line itself did a better job keeping the puck in the offensive zone than he does…

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by hintzy64 on Jul 1, 2010 12:00 PM EDT up reply actions  

Good numbers with the Sens

Points and +/- were very good up North, not so much in Tampa but I can easily see that as a function of the team he was on.

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by boknows71 on Jul 1, 2010 11:53 AM EDT up reply actions  

im going to trust it. he’s young, big guy, apparently can bring offense with the defense. and he’s signed here for a while.

by bleedorangewhiteblack on Jul 1, 2010 11:54 AM EDT up reply actions  

only Steven Downie of all people was a plus on that team he was a +14 the next closest regular was Stamkos with a -2 and he scored 51 goals.

by chrislanci on Jul 1, 2010 12:01 PM EDT up reply actions  

Was he a FA or is this a trade?

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by EREX21 on Jul 1, 2010 11:54 AM EDT up reply actions  

Trade. Acquired for 2012 second round pick.

by Ben Feldman on Jul 1, 2010 11:56 AM EDT up reply actions  

Wonderful…is Homer afraid to have draft picks?

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by EREX21 on Jul 1, 2010 12:05 PM EDT up reply actions  

He will get a pick right back if someone tried to poach Coburn at this point.

by ic0n67 on Jul 1, 2010 12:07 PM EDT up reply actions  

Which I hope doesn’t happen. We need to improve the D, not keep it stagnent.

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by EREX21 on Jul 1, 2010 12:09 PM EDT up reply actions  

I honestly thing Coburn would command somewhere in the 3.5 to 4 range and the Flyers would not be able to do that unless they make a trade

by ic0n67 on Jul 1, 2010 12:22 PM EDT up reply actions  

neverming … 3.2 million it seems … i was close

by ic0n67 on Jul 1, 2010 12:24 PM EDT up reply actions  

Trade. Meszaros is signed through 2013-14

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by The Dark on Jul 1, 2010 11:56 AM EDT up reply actions  

So, minus asham, krajicek, emery, rathje and plus meszaros where does that leave us capwise?

by Derek F on Jul 1, 2010 11:52 AM EDT reply actions  

about 5M (i think) and they have 3 RFA and still would need at least 1 D and 1 F to make a complete roster

by ic0n67 on Jul 1, 2010 11:54 AM EDT up reply actions  

Ellis hitting the open market.

by LegionofDoom on Jul 1, 2010 11:54 AM EDT reply actions  

He’s a sweet fifth d-man if we re-sign coburn, that’s for sure

by Derek F on Jul 1, 2010 11:54 AM EDT reply actions  

yeh as an extra defenseman he’s great, but we cant stop there defensively if we lose Coburna nd just add Meszaros.

by bleedorangewhiteblack on Jul 1, 2010 11:56 AM EDT up reply actions  

Maybe Tallinder if we lose Coburn then?

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by Orange and Black Forever on Jul 1, 2010 11:56 AM EDT up reply actions  

Cobie has to be gone. Maybe Tallinder, Ellis, and Karj/anyone around that price will roudn thigns out in the back?

by Snevik on Jul 1, 2010 12:00 PM EDT up reply actions  

That is still way too expensive for a #5

by ic0n67 on Jul 1, 2010 11:56 AM EDT up reply actions  

flyers must like the guy a lot. ill trust it. but it might mean losing Coburn and getting Foster or Tallinder, which im not opposed to at all.

by bleedorangewhiteblack on Jul 1, 2010 11:58 AM EDT up reply actions  

capgeek:
#nhl #flyers have $54.15m committed to 18 players after Meszaros acquisition ($637,500 in bonuses)

by LegionofDoom on Jul 1, 2010 11:56 AM EDT reply actions  

That’s not awful. I keep forgetting the cap is now $59.4 after two years at $56.8.

by Ben Feldman on Jul 1, 2010 11:57 AM EDT up reply actions  

But what does this mean on the Gagne/Carter/Giroux front, next year? Probably two of them have to go.

by Snevik on Jul 1, 2010 12:02 PM EDT up reply actions  

Eesh… yeah… not gonna be fun next year.

by Ben Feldman on Jul 1, 2010 12:03 PM EDT up reply actions  

Hold Carter until the deadline, flip him to a contender for a young, talented winger? Hope Gagne reupps with a sweetheart veteran deal and give Roo his payday?

by Snevik on Jul 1, 2010 12:06 PM EDT up reply actions  

Omg, omg…. no! There’s gotta be another way! O.o

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by Katchis on Jul 1, 2010 12:05 PM EDT up reply actions  

You just need to fall in love with Giroux like the rest of us

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by The Dark on Jul 1, 2010 12:07 PM EDT up reply actions  

I love Ginger. But I love Gags more. More than anyone. I doubt anyone could really undestand me. Haha.

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by Katchis on Jul 1, 2010 12:08 PM EDT up reply actions  

I do, I’m right in your corner. Gagne might be willing to take a small pay cut to stay though, so we’ll just have to cross that bridge when we get to it.

by DragonGirl0583 on Jul 1, 2010 1:22 PM EDT up reply actions  

Do you think we weren’t going to play at the cap again this year. We were spending 4 million on someone either a goal or a D-Man don’t worry about it. Giroux and Carter are RFAs they are not going anyway if we don’t want them do and Gagne will not make 5.4 million next season.

by chrislanci on Jul 1, 2010 12:07 PM EDT up reply actions  

I hope that even if he had to make like 5 bucks, he’d stay! Hahahaha. I’m silly…

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by Katchis on Jul 1, 2010 12:10 PM EDT up reply actions  

So looks like I missed quite a bit of activity while I was gone. Here’s hoping Homer can make some magic happen today.

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by doubleh on Jul 1, 2010 11:58 AM EDT reply actions  

LET’S GO FLYERS !!!!!!

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CLAP-CLAP CLAP-CLAP-CLAP!

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by Orange and Black Forever on Jul 1, 2010 12:01 PM EDT up reply actions  

Biron to Rangers for two years at just under $1 million per.

by Ben Feldman on Jul 1, 2010 12:00 PM EDT reply actions  

Make that just under $900,000 per.

by Ben Feldman on Jul 1, 2010 12:02 PM EDT up reply actions  

$875,000 per

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by The Dark on Jul 1, 2010 12:02 PM EDT up reply actions  

LOL to Biron he is now making Boosh money worst agent of all time good thing he fired him.

by chrislanci on Jul 1, 2010 12:03 PM EDT up reply actions  

Pretty good deal for the Rags

by LegionofDoom on Jul 1, 2010 12:03 PM EDT via mobile reply actions  

Bad move. I think losing Coburn for a relative unknown is not good. Coburn was a semi physical player. And he played so well in the playoffs. Don’t know what to think about this. Coburn is also young. Hope, somehow, they resign Coburn.

by Dozer3677 on Jul 1, 2010 12:05 PM EDT reply actions  

you think a lot more of Coburn than I do. He didnt play that well in the playoffs, I saw him turn the puck over more times than I’d like to remember.

by bleedorangewhiteblack on Jul 1, 2010 12:06 PM EDT up reply actions  

Coburn is one of the few players I will gladly do without

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by chillicothe20 on Jul 1, 2010 12:07 PM EDT up reply actions  

In the beginning of the playoffs, it was true. But as the playoffs kept going, he got better it seemed. Stanley Cup finals, especially game 4 I believe, he was possibly the best player on the ice. I just don’t like giving up on a relatively young player who is already established here and playing pretty well for a player who is just as young but dont really know much about. At least the guy is signed though. He better be pretty good for a cap hit of $4 mil a yr.

by Dozer3677 on Jul 1, 2010 12:10 PM EDT up reply actions  

I think it’s going to come out that Coburn was looking for big time money.

by Snevik on Jul 1, 2010 12:17 PM EDT up reply actions  

Coburn is a relative unknown

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by JasonB on Jul 1, 2010 12:07 PM EDT up reply actions  

Pierre LeBrun: Flyers GM Paul Holmgren confirms acquiriing Meszaros from Lightning for second-round pick

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by The Dark on Jul 1, 2010 12:08 PM EDT reply actions  

I put Philly’s cap hit at $54.16m currently, with 11 forwards, 5 defensemen, and 2 goalies signed.

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by The Dark on Jul 1, 2010 12:12 PM EDT up reply actions  

I know this is silly, but I used to always sign Mezaros to the Flyers in NHL09… He was good in that game.

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by JasonB on Jul 1, 2010 12:08 PM EDT reply actions  

I used to trade for Chris Gratton in NHL9something … just saying …

by ic0n67 on Jul 1, 2010 12:09 PM EDT up reply actions  

I have one of the recent NHLs (forget if it’s 09 or 08), and Lindros was surprisingly good in that game.

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by The Dark on Jul 1, 2010 12:10 PM EDT up reply actions  

Ha!

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by JasonB on Jul 1, 2010 12:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

so who is better, mezaros or coburn???

by phinally on Jul 1, 2010 12:09 PM EDT reply actions  

I personally think that Coburn.

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by Katchis on Jul 1, 2010 12:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

well that’s not good…unless coburn sucks it up and signs for what he’s worth

by phinally on Jul 1, 2010 12:12 PM EDT up reply actions  

i dont think you can say either way. the flyers know more than we do. also meszaros is under contract longer than probalby what we could get Coburn to agree too.

And this guy seems bigger and stronger. He has the same turnover problem as Coburn apparently, but he might be better in other areas.

If the flyers do with this guy what they did with Matt Carle ( who was maligned in tampa bay) than this guy will be better.

by bleedorangewhiteblack on Jul 1, 2010 12:17 PM EDT up reply actions  

As do I.

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by EREX21 on Jul 1, 2010 12:13 PM EDT up reply actions  

Been a Flyers fan for 26+ years and I can’t remember being this excited for an upcoming season…

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by PatterPoet95 on Jul 1, 2010 12:09 PM EDT reply actions  

So you’re what, 29?

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by TopShelfTony on Jul 1, 2010 12:10 PM EDT up reply actions  

31

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by PatterPoet95 on Jul 1, 2010 12:12 PM EDT up reply actions  

Dedication. Good man.

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by TopShelfTony on Jul 1, 2010 12:14 PM EDT up reply actions  

Actually

I was really upset at the beginning of last season concerning the Pronger trade. I didn’t start watching till they started to suck real bad (morbid).

I was Wrong about the Pronger deal…

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by PatterPoet95 on Jul 1, 2010 12:25 PM EDT up reply actions  

HINDSIGHT! HINDSIGHT! I CALL IT!

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by TopShelfTony on Jul 1, 2010 12:26 PM EDT up reply actions  

I’m not saying I was for it the whole time I wasn’t. The circumstances changed so I changed my opinion (yes I am slightly ripping that off, good luck if you know from where…)

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by PatterPoet95 on Jul 1, 2010 12:32 PM EDT up reply actions  

Meszaros (remember the other maligned Tampa Bay defenseman?)

a guy by the name of Matt Carle. Who was highly touted, then fell off, was traded to Tampa Bay, where he was further maligned. Comes to philly and now he’s killing it.

I’ll trust the Flyers organization and their handling of players over Tampa Bay’s.

by bleedorangewhiteblack on Jul 1, 2010 12:10 PM EDT reply actions  

Tampa ruined Steven Eminger as well. I am sure Tochet will be on the radio or TV somewhere talking about this guy.

by chrislanci on Jul 1, 2010 12:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

Very good point

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by boknows71 on Jul 1, 2010 12:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

Carle spend like 10 games with Tampa …. He was traded to Tampa in the Dan Boyle trade then moved to Philly for Eminger ….

by ic0n67 on Jul 1, 2010 12:12 PM EDT reply actions  

Even with Meszaros trade, Flyers still in play big time.

I have no idea what that means, so let’s hope it’s a good thing.

by Ben Feldman on Jul 1, 2010 12:12 PM EDT reply actions  

Just coming in,…

Real_ESPNLeBrun:
Interesting thing about Meszaros contract: $4 M cap hit yes, but actual salary rises to $4.75 M in 2012-13 and $5.5 M in 2013-14

by Dozer3677 on Jul 1, 2010 12:12 PM EDT reply actions  

Ehh. Not really relevant to the Flyers.

by Ben Feldman on Jul 1, 2010 12:13 PM EDT up reply actions  

plus Briere’s actual money goes down over that time …

by ic0n67 on Jul 1, 2010 12:14 PM EDT up reply actions  

Briere’s actual drops to $7m this year, and $3m in 13-14

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by The Dark on Jul 1, 2010 12:15 PM EDT up reply actions  

Comcast can afford it. It’s the cap hit that matters to the Flyers, not the actual salary.

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by The Dark on Jul 1, 2010 12:13 PM EDT up reply actions  

That is true. And I am not 100% on what the teams salaries look like in the next few yrs, sans Richards and Briere.

by Dozer3677 on Jul 1, 2010 12:15 PM EDT up reply actions  

Signed players in 2011-12:
Briere 7.00m
Richards: 6.60m
Hartnell: 3.70m
JvR: 0.875m
Laperriere: 1.00m
Timonen: 5.00m
Pronger: 7.60m
Carle: 3.80m
Bartulis: 0.60m
Meszaros: 4.00m
Leighton: 1.60m

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by The Dark on Jul 1, 2010 12:18 PM EDT up reply actions  

Thanks for that. Damn Matt Carle. That seems like alot.

by Dozer3677 on Jul 1, 2010 12:34 PM EDT up reply actions  

yeah before the cap our team salary was over 90 million.

by chrislanci on Jul 1, 2010 12:16 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah, I loved it. The hockey version of the Yankees. Clarkey and Ed weren’t afraid of bad contracts. They could just sign someone else to make up for it. Now though………

by Dozer3677 on Jul 1, 2010 12:18 PM EDT up reply actions  

That is why next season they wouldn’t be afraid of eating Hartnells contract by waiving him to keep Carter Giroux and Gagne

by chrislanci on Jul 1, 2010 12:22 PM EDT up reply actions  

Agreed. Do you think they would do that in this salary cap era? I don’t see that happening. But would rather have Carter over Hartnell.

by Dozer3677 on Jul 1, 2010 12:34 PM EDT up reply actions  

RealKyper Even with Meszaros trade, Flyers still in play big time.

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by TopShelfTony on Jul 1, 2010 12:13 PM EDT reply actions  

I should hope so. We have a chance to do BIG things.

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by chillicothe20 on Jul 1, 2010 12:14 PM EDT up reply actions  

SportsnetSpec Flyers with $19.3M spent on Top 5 D-men, with RFA Coburn and UFA Krajicek not yet signed. Canucks interested in Coburn?

But for who/what?

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by TopShelfTony on Jul 1, 2010 12:15 PM EDT reply actions  

Edler or Samuelsson, please.

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by The Dark on Jul 1, 2010 12:21 PM EDT up reply actions  

Edler!

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by PatterPoet95 on Jul 1, 2010 12:26 PM EDT up reply actions  

You know, I rememeber Meszaros being good with Ottawa – this might be a very good pick-up.

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by Orange and Black Forever on Jul 1, 2010 12:16 PM EDT reply actions  

Hard hitter, top shot-blocker. Tough Tough Tough.

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by TopShelfTony on Jul 1, 2010 12:17 PM EDT up reply actions  

Sounds like a Flyer to me.

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by hintzy64 on Jul 1, 2010 12:17 PM EDT up reply actions  

I like him. Improves our D. Can’t be a bad thing.

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by TopShelfTony on Jul 1, 2010 12:18 PM EDT up reply actions  

If we lose Coburn, don’t we get that 2nd rounder back as RFA compensation? I’m iffy on these rules.

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by Travis Hughes on Jul 1, 2010 12:16 PM EDT reply actions  

doesn’t depend on how much he signs for?

by phinally on Jul 1, 2010 12:17 PM EDT up reply actions  

I think it depends on what he is offered/signed for.

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by EREX21 on Jul 1, 2010 12:17 PM EDT up reply actions  

It matters on how much the offer sheet is for … from 2.6 to 3.5 is it a first round pick and a third

by ic0n67 on Jul 1, 2010 12:17 PM EDT up reply actions  

That’s how I understand it. Replace the one we traded.

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by TopShelfTony on Jul 1, 2010 12:17 PM EDT up reply actions  

Depends on what his contract is with his new team. We get compensation via draft pick, but the salary determines the round.

by Snevik on Jul 1, 2010 12:18 PM EDT up reply actions  

So, definitely a second rounder, possibly more, then. I like.

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by Travis Hughes on Jul 1, 2010 12:18 PM EDT up reply actions  

Darren Dreger reports Sergei Gonchar has signed in OTT for three years at $5.5M plus a NTC.

From McKenzie.

by Ben Feldman on Jul 1, 2010 12:18 PM EDT reply actions  

Didn’t see that coming … though he was KHL bound

by ic0n67 on Jul 1, 2010 12:18 PM EDT up reply actions  

Hell and yes. Now don’t sign Hamhuis, Pens.

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by Travis Hughes on Jul 1, 2010 12:19 PM EDT up reply actions  

I agree….if Hamhuis goes to Vancouver as expected then the Pen’s D just took a bit hit.

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by EREX21 on Jul 1, 2010 12:19 PM EDT up reply actions  

If they do...

They will be highly overpaying for him.

Either way, F’em.

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by boknows71 on Jul 1, 2010 12:20 PM EDT up reply actions  

I’d be more worried about Volchenkov….

by Snevik on Jul 1, 2010 12:21 PM EDT up reply actions  

Totally forgot about him.

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by EREX21 on Jul 1, 2010 12:21 PM EDT up reply actions  

No homo

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by EREX21 on Jul 1, 2010 12:24 PM EDT up reply actions  

i didnt say that ;)

by phinally on Jul 1, 2010 12:25 PM EDT up reply actions  

Never!

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by Katchis on Jul 1, 2010 12:25 PM EDT up reply actions  

WOW! So Michalek not going there then.

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by TopShelfTony on Jul 1, 2010 12:19 PM EDT up reply actions  

God do I wish the NHL had a cap and trade rule in effect….

by Snevik on Jul 1, 2010 12:18 PM EDT reply actions  

Tanguay signs with Flames.

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by TopShelfTony on Jul 1, 2010 12:21 PM EDT reply actions  

Twitter
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Looks like Braydon Coburn has re-signed in PHI. Getting details.

by ic0n67 on Jul 1, 2010 12:22 PM EDT reply actions  

I’m shocked… (no sarcasm)

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by Katchis on Jul 1, 2010 12:22 PM EDT up reply actions  

The fuck is going on here.

by Snevik on Jul 1, 2010 12:22 PM EDT up reply actions  

What a D shaping up here.

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by TopShelfTony on Jul 1, 2010 12:23 PM EDT up reply actions  

Fantastic news

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by PatterPoet95 on Jul 1, 2010 12:29 PM EDT up reply actions  

Bob McKenzie is reporting Coburn resigned with us!!

by Dozer3677 on Jul 1, 2010 12:22 PM EDT reply actions  

McKenzie reports Coburn has been re-signed.

by Ben Feldman on Jul 1, 2010 12:22 PM EDT reply actions  

CraigCustance:
Braydon Coburn signs two-year deal worth $6.4 million with Flyers.

by Dozer3677 on Jul 1, 2010 12:22 PM EDT reply actions  

3.2 CAP HIT??!

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by Travis Hughes on Jul 1, 2010 12:23 PM EDT up reply actions  

There’s no world in which this team can exist without trading Jeff Carter.

Holy overpay, Batman.

by Snevik on Jul 1, 2010 12:24 PM EDT up reply actions  

Rough estimate: Between $2 and $3 million left to sign Powe, Carcillo and Ellis.

Questioning whether all that is possible at this point…

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by Grp_Cpt_Lionel_Mandrake on Jul 1, 2010 12:24 PM EDT up reply actions  

$3.2 million cap hit is a little pricey for me.

by Ben Feldman on Jul 1, 2010 12:23 PM EDT up reply actions  

yeah but d-men go high these days.

by phinally on Jul 1, 2010 12:24 PM EDT up reply actions  

DAMN!

That’s the money I could have saved by switching to Geico!

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by hintzy64 on Jul 1, 2010 12:23 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

Whoa… kinda a lot to me…

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by Katchis on Jul 1, 2010 12:24 PM EDT up reply actions  

Too much money.

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by The Dark on Jul 1, 2010 12:24 PM EDT up reply actions  

So now 2 million left to spend on 2 RFA and needed at least one forward to make a team … guess signing a goalie is out for now

by ic0n67 on Jul 1, 2010 12:25 PM EDT up reply actions  

$2.24m under the cap. Something has to shift.

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by The Dark on Jul 1, 2010 12:26 PM EDT up reply actions  

Holy cow! Coburn and Mez…will be one hell of a D.

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by EREX21 on Jul 1, 2010 12:23 PM EDT reply actions  

omg omg omg. im so happy if we have this d right now

by phinally on Jul 1, 2010 12:23 PM EDT reply actions  

Great move!! I love it, I take back the things I said about Meszaros. Great moves all around.

by Dozer3677 on Jul 1, 2010 12:23 PM EDT reply actions  

Can't - Meszaros, not Mulligan.;)

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by TopShelfTony on Jul 1, 2010 12:25 PM EDT up reply actions  

HA HA HA!!! I just laughed out loud at my desk at work. Everyone is looking at me funny.

by Dozer3677 on Jul 1, 2010 12:26 PM EDT up reply actions  

Shaping up to be a goood day, yeah?

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by TopShelfTony on Jul 1, 2010 12:27 PM EDT up reply actions  

The Flyers really good defense just got a hell of a lot better.

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by Justin F. on Jul 1, 2010 12:24 PM EDT reply actions  

well what did you expect

the fleyrs thought coburn was worth above 2 mil around, and coburn wanted 4 mil so seems like they’re meeting in the middle.

by bleedorangewhiteblack on Jul 1, 2010 12:24 PM EDT reply actions  

Which is not where you meet someone when you just traded for his replacement.

by Snevik on Jul 1, 2010 12:25 PM EDT up reply actions  

Coburn and Meszaros for that money is too much for me.

however i will say this, they both have the potential to exceed what their worth. Especially Coburn.

by bleedorangewhiteblack on Jul 1, 2010 12:26 PM EDT up reply actions  

Too much money.

We’ve blown our load and we’re not even 30 mins in. No money left for goaltending unless come crazy shit goes down…

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by hintzy64 on Jul 1, 2010 12:29 PM EDT up reply actions  

unless come crazy shit goes down…

Lock’n’load, son.

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by TopShelfTony on Jul 1, 2010 12:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

Guess we can afford Leighton as our starter if our D is as sick as it just got.

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by EREX21 on Jul 1, 2010 12:24 PM EDT reply actions  

No. We still can’t.

by Snevik on Jul 1, 2010 12:25 PM EDT up reply actions  

Well the reality is we are not getting a stud goalie so at least we have improved our D.

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by EREX21 on Jul 1, 2010 12:27 PM EDT up reply actions  

Besides Nabby no studs were available and even that has been debated heavily.

by chrislanci on Jul 1, 2010 12:31 PM EDT up reply actions  

And if you aren’t going to improve in Goal, that is the best thing to do. Make sure your goalie isn’t facing tough shots, and lining up some quality D in front of him.

by Dozer3677 on Jul 1, 2010 12:31 PM EDT up reply actions  

Going into today, the choices looked like Dan Ellis, cheap 3rd pair, and maneuverability at the deadline/next summer vs. Leighton, a (slightly?) improved third pairing, and officially declaring war on the salary cap.

Of course we choose the latter.

by Snevik on Jul 1, 2010 12:31 PM EDT up reply actions  

Going into today

Wait for it.

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by TopShelfTony on Jul 1, 2010 12:32 PM EDT up reply actions  

There’s next to no chance I’ll survive past 1pm.

by Snevik on Jul 1, 2010 12:33 PM EDT up reply actions  

Hang in there.

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by TopShelfTony on Jul 1, 2010 12:34 PM EDT up reply actions  

Guess we can afford Leighton as our starter if our D is as sick as it just got

I think you got it just right.

If these are our D-men (and at these prices), then one has to assume we’re not getting a goalie. I think, like it or not, it’s Leights/Boosh (most likely) for the start of the 2010-11 season.

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by Orange and Black Forever on Jul 1, 2010 12:41 PM EDT up reply actions  

How? We saw Coburn as a number 5 last year, and scouting indications are that Meszaros is guy that takes risks and makes giveaways. We’re still a team with a third pairing that will gift you a goal a game.

by Snevik on Jul 1, 2010 12:44 PM EDT up reply actions  

I’m speaking in terms of money, not preference.

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by Orange and Black Forever on Jul 1, 2010 12:44 PM EDT up reply actions  

z

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by TopShelfTony on Jul 1, 2010 12:25 PM EDT reply actions  

So what does that leave for goaltending and a wing?

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by hintzy64 on Jul 1, 2010 12:25 PM EDT reply actions  

Somebody is getting shipped out in a salary move…

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by JasonB on Jul 1, 2010 12:25 PM EDT reply actions  

Well, there goes any chance of us signing a goalie, I guess.

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by Mitchell Green on Jul 1, 2010 12:25 PM EDT reply actions  

If we have around 2 mil left for powe, carcillo, and potential UFA goalie we’d presumably be shedding boucher’s contract

by Derek F on Jul 1, 2010 12:26 PM EDT reply actions  

well they won’t be buying him out if they do … I don’t think they have room to buy out even bouchers contract at this point …

by ic0n67 on Jul 1, 2010 12:27 PM EDT up reply actions  

well theyd either trade him or put him on waivers

by Derek F on Jul 1, 2010 12:28 PM EDT up reply actions  

but isnt it worth like 600,000

by phinally on Jul 1, 2010 12:28 PM EDT up reply actions  

It’ll save us around $300k under the cap

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by The Dark on Jul 1, 2010 12:29 PM EDT up reply actions  

his salary (925,000) divided over double the remainder of his contract (1 Year).

So it would cost them a little under 500k to buy him out … which still is a lot of money when you consider what they still have to do with what little space they have. So basically it would be a trade if they are going to move him.

by ic0n67 on Jul 1, 2010 12:32 PM EDT up reply actions  

I think they let Powe walk or sign him to a two way deal, Carcillo and a get a winger. Screw goalie at this point we spend too much money on D.

by chrislanci on Jul 1, 2010 12:35 PM EDT up reply actions  

I’d much rather see Powe offered a two-year deal at about $700,000, Carcillo tendered RFA qualifier (I believe already done), and Cote traded to somewhere for a prosepct or pick.

by MaximumTalbot on Jul 1, 2010 12:39 PM EDT up reply actions  

I wouldn’t trade Cote for a Wawa Hoggie … and that crap is GOOD!

I might swing a Cote for McNabb + a Hoggie deal though …

by ic0n67 on Jul 1, 2010 12:40 PM EDT up reply actions  

Boucher is going to be gone so we’ll be 3.14 under the cap. Toss in Cote and we’re 3.64 under.

Do you see what happens when you find a stranger in the Alps?

by mikefive on Jul 1, 2010 12:28 PM EDT reply actions  

I don’t think Cote is moving.

by Snevik on Jul 1, 2010 12:29 PM EDT up reply actions  

He’ll be moving to Adirondack

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by The Dark on Jul 1, 2010 12:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

You toss in Cote. I'll stand over here and spot.

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by TopShelfTony on Jul 1, 2010 12:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

Damn
Leafs talking to Colby Armstrong, they are about one year and 300,000 k a year apart

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by Mitchell Green on Jul 1, 2010 12:28 PM EDT reply actions  

Leafs are going to be good this year.

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by mikefive on Jul 1, 2010 12:29 PM EDT up reply actions  

Hahahahahahahahaha.

by Snevik on Jul 1, 2010 12:29 PM EDT up reply actions  

They are. I’m serious.

They have gotten substantially better since the Phaneuf trade last year. And they have continued to improve. By the end of last season they were not a pushover team by any stretch of the imagination. I expect them to make the playoffs as the 8 seed this year if they stay healthy.

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by mikefive on Jul 1, 2010 12:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

You may be right on that one.

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by TopShelfTony on Jul 1, 2010 12:31 PM EDT up reply actions  

I agree with you. They will be good.

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by EREX21 on Jul 1, 2010 12:32 PM EDT up reply actions  

There was no team in the league that was a pushover for the Flyers in the regular season last year. This doesn’t change our relative position.

by Snevik on Jul 1, 2010 12:32 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah, I’m worried about the leafs…I think they’re going to make the playoffs this year.

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by Lindbergh 31 on Jul 1, 2010 12:47 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yes, they have made a LOT of good moves in a couple of days.

Who’s in goal for them now?

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by Orange and Black Forever on Jul 1, 2010 12:50 PM EDT up reply actions  

Hmmm…does he have the potential to recapture his old form?

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by Orange and Black Forever on Jul 1, 2010 12:55 PM EDT up reply actions  

He has played very well for the Leafs in the time he has been there

by halx on Jul 1, 2010 12:56 PM EDT up reply actions  

Well then Pittsburgh can sit out this year

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by Prometheus74 on Jul 1, 2010 12:50 PM EDT up reply actions  

good at what?

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by hintzy64 on Jul 1, 2010 12:29 PM EDT up reply actions  

Stay tuned. Moves coming. Today?

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by TopShelfTony on Jul 1, 2010 12:28 PM EDT reply actions  

Reports saying Tanguay has signed in Calgary

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by The Dark on Jul 1, 2010 12:29 PM EDT reply actions  

Now that Keenan’s gone, he wants to go back.

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by mikefive on Jul 1, 2010 12:32 PM EDT up reply actions  

How ridiculous is a blue line of Pronger, Timonen, Carle, Coburn, Meszaros, and Bartulis? That’s just sick.

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by The Dark on Jul 1, 2010 12:31 PM EDT reply actions  

Okay, that’s a good point.

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by hintzy64 on Jul 1, 2010 12:32 PM EDT up reply actions  

2 number 1’s and 3 numbers 2’s and a Latvian Sea Wolf to full it out.

by chrislanci on Jul 1, 2010 12:33 PM EDT up reply actions  

Sarauj, Latvija!

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by LVHokejs on Jul 1, 2010 12:33 PM EDT up reply actions  

I can totally live with this defense.

We need a goalie though.

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by mikefive on Jul 1, 2010 12:33 PM EDT up reply actions  

Better be good enough

Since they now have about 30 cents left in the piggy bank, and might still want a forward. Can Ellis be signed for under $2.5 million, and then burying Boucher’s salary can we PLEASE keep a bit of room under the cap? I was hoping for less expensive D-men …

by MaximumTalbot on Jul 1, 2010 12:35 PM EDT up reply actions  

But what about Danny Syvret, Offensive Dynamo!

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by hintzy64 on Jul 1, 2010 12:35 PM EDT up reply actions  

Syvret is a FA – bet he walks to a team that will actually give him NHL minutes.

by MaximumTalbot on Jul 1, 2010 12:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

Just told Savard to Calgary very possible… two teams are in heated negotiations.

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by Mitchell Green on Jul 1, 2010 12:33 PM EDT reply actions  

Back where he started as one of the “Young Guns!”

Where the hell is Aaron Gavey when you need him?

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by mikefive on Jul 1, 2010 12:34 PM EDT up reply actions  

Calagary making some moves today… Savard and Jarom execuse my french but fuck me that could be a sick duo…

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by PatterPoet95 on Jul 1, 2010 12:35 PM EDT up reply actions  

IF Tanguay wakes up.

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by TopShelfTony on Jul 1, 2010 12:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

After whole season in Tampa? That will be tough!

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by Katchis on Jul 1, 2010 12:37 PM EDT up reply actions  

I like Tanguay and I hope he does wake up. I have my doubts though

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by PatterPoet95 on Jul 1, 2010 12:37 PM EDT up reply actions  

Seconded in every respect.

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by TopShelfTony on Jul 1, 2010 12:39 PM EDT up reply actions  

Sutter lighting a fire under Tanguay?

 
Russostrib So #Flames GM Darryl Sutter, who’s job was reportedly in peril, gives a no-move to Tanguay as his first move today? Well done

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by TopShelfTony on Jul 1, 2010 12:49 PM EDT up reply actions  

Ugh

NHL.com’s live feed finally came online and it’s just Bettman talking.

The black screen was better…

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by hintzy64 on Jul 1, 2010 12:33 PM EDT reply actions  

Oh will this guy shut the F up? (Bettman, not you)

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by JasonB on Jul 1, 2010 12:37 PM EDT up reply actions  

eek, too much for Coburn, too much for Leighton, especially considering Biron is making under $1MM.

How much left to sign Ellis?

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by HockeyOutsiders on Jul 1, 2010 12:34 PM EDT reply actions  

1 grilled cheese.

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by hintzy64 on Jul 1, 2010 12:35 PM EDT up reply actions  

yeah, i’d take biron over leighton at $900k anyday.

by McNabbSoup on Jul 1, 2010 12:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

I doubt he take that money as a starter but since he is backing Lundquist that is okay.

by chrislanci on Jul 1, 2010 12:37 PM EDT up reply actions  

Enough for now, but they’ve got to get on with moving Boosh’s contract and possibly something else if they want Powe and Carcillo back.

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by mikefive on Jul 1, 2010 12:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

i dont need Carcillo back. Maybe try Pyarola on the 3rd line. I thought he played well, it’s just we all kind of forgot about him.

by bleedorangewhiteblack on Jul 1, 2010 12:38 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah, but with Asham gone, you need someone other than Laperriere to drop the gloves every now and again.

And no, Riley Cote is not the man for the job.

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by mikefive on Jul 1, 2010 12:40 PM EDT up reply actions  

meh

if i have to choose btwn Carcillo fighting or Powe’s speed and penalty kiling ability. Im going with Powe.

by bleedorangewhiteblack on Jul 1, 2010 12:41 PM EDT up reply actions  

Powe, yes...

Carcillo, I can do without. He does show flashes that he gets it. But then he does something stupid to make me not want him back.

by Dozer3677 on Jul 1, 2010 12:40 PM EDT up reply actions  

Love this

dshoalts Same with Biron-Rangers. Wow, these guys are fast, eh?RT @kausatoday: It took under 14 minutes for Gonchar to negotiate 3-yr deal for $16.5?

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by TopShelfTony on Jul 1, 2010 12:35 PM EDT reply actions  

Souray an option for Penguins? With Gonchar gone, very possible.

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by Mitchell Green on Jul 1, 2010 12:36 PM EDT reply actions  

Oh yeah, the boy can play.

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by TopShelfTony on Jul 1, 2010 12:37 PM EDT up reply actions  

You are being sarcastic right? haha

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by Mitchell Green on Jul 1, 2010 12:38 PM EDT up reply actions  

Sarcasm is as sarcasm does, Forrest.

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by TopShelfTony on Jul 1, 2010 12:41 PM EDT up reply actions  

Also someone saying they will get involved in the Tomas Kaberle talks with Toronto. I hope not, because that is a guy who can immediately come in and take over for Gonchar.

by Dozer3677 on Jul 1, 2010 12:38 PM EDT up reply actions  

I feel like losing Gonchar but adding Kaberle is a wash. Very similar in abilities.

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by Mitchell Green on Jul 1, 2010 12:39 PM EDT up reply actions  

Kaberle is better on D Gonchar has a Mark Howe like point shot and is very effective on the PP. But Kaberle will cost them roster players.

by chrislanci on Jul 1, 2010 12:40 PM EDT up reply actions  

Very true. They are the same, just one is younger. But a wash in Pittsburgh is still good for them. because they aren’t getting worse, they are at least staying the same. And the same is still pretty good.

by Dozer3677 on Jul 1, 2010 12:41 PM EDT up reply actions  

Gonchar needs an attitude adjustment if last year was any indication. Talk about gunshy. With reason, I guess, but even so.

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by TopShelfTony on Jul 1, 2010 12:43 PM EDT up reply actions  

People on this board will be happy

andystrickland In a surprise New Jersey makes a call to Chris Mason…Flyers contact Mason as well

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by TopShelfTony on Jul 1, 2010 12:38 PM EDT reply actions  

New Jersey…? I know they probably want to feel comfortable with Brodeur playing fewer games, but…?

by Ben Feldman on Jul 1, 2010 12:39 PM EDT up reply actions  

There are those who feel without big games played reduction Brodeur is fading fast.

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by TopShelfTony on Jul 1, 2010 12:41 PM EDT up reply actions  

Now way he signs as a backup maybe we can get him cheap to start. Broduer’s backup gets like 10 games a year.

by chrislanci on Jul 1, 2010 12:41 PM EDT up reply actions  

I expect it to be rebuilding time in NJ.

Brodeur is showing his age, they gave up young guys to get Kovalchuk (whom they will also lose), and they’ve followed up good regular seasons with fizzling out in the first round for three years straight. Plus, they’re not going to be able to keep everyone they want to keep, I’m sure.

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by mikefive on Jul 1, 2010 12:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

They are not going to move Broduer so why would you sign there to sit the bench.

by chrislanci on Jul 1, 2010 12:43 PM EDT up reply actions  

Precisely. They are not going to move Brodeur, who is showing his age. The defense and team in front of him will not be as good, and the Devils will falter.

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by mikefive on Jul 1, 2010 12:44 PM EDT up reply actions  

Unless you were told you’d get 25-30 games this year and be the man after Marty goes. Lou can be pretty convincing as well as totally off the board at times.

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by TopShelfTony on Jul 1, 2010 12:45 PM EDT up reply actions  

so our d could be great. just some quick dry cement for leighton’s fivehole and we’ll be set

by phinally on Jul 1, 2010 12:41 PM EDT reply actions  

and spray adhesive, so some of those rebounds actually stick

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by Prometheus74 on Jul 1, 2010 12:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

When does a team have to be under the cap? Is it at all times or do they have to be under by a certain date?

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by JasonB on Jul 1, 2010 12:42 PM EDT reply actions  

i think by the start of the season. so conceivably, they can go into training camp over the cap.

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by HockeyOutsiders on Jul 1, 2010 12:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

You can be 10% over the salary cap from the end of the season through August, I believe.

by Ben Feldman on Jul 1, 2010 12:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yes.

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by Travis Hughes on Jul 1, 2010 12:43 PM EDT up reply actions  

So they can over-spend now and cut later. Might be the best way to go.

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by mikefive on Jul 1, 2010 12:43 PM EDT up reply actions  

I read somewhere that’s what Chicago is going to do. Huet is going to be on the roster through training camp, then boom, Rockford Icehog bound

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by HockeyOutsiders on Jul 1, 2010 12:46 PM EDT up reply actions  

Oh, so in reality the Flyers have an extra $6 mil or so to play with today?

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by JasonB on Jul 1, 2010 12:43 PM EDT up reply actions  

get greedy then trade Pittsburg’s targets out West for 7th round picks

by chrislanci on Jul 1, 2010 12:46 PM EDT up reply actions  

i hope holmgren is good at monopoly

by phinally on Jul 1, 2010 12:46 PM EDT up reply actions  

So, how are the UFA goalies feeling now? The Rags sign Biron and are off the market, the Flyers solidify the blue line…Turco and Nabby probably a bit nervous at the moment, no?

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by The Dark on Jul 1, 2010 12:43 PM EDT reply actions  

one of them is going to get Bironed to Nashville as a backup, remember I said it 1st.

by chrislanci on Jul 1, 2010 12:45 PM EDT up reply actions  

Or we snag one of them on the cheap and Biron Boucher to the Preds for a pick

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by The Dark on Jul 1, 2010 12:46 PM EDT up reply actions  

which is why the leighton signing was really dumb

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by HockeyOutsiders on Jul 1, 2010 12:46 PM EDT up reply actions  

Turco will most likely end up as a Shark, so Nabakov is the one who might be getting cold sweats

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by Prometheus74 on Jul 1, 2010 12:45 PM EDT up reply actions  

The MEzaros trade was for a 2012 2nd rounder

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by JasonB on Jul 1, 2010 12:44 PM EDT reply actions  

Only one the Flyers still have.

by Ben Feldman on Jul 1, 2010 12:44 PM EDT up reply actions  

What are these “Draft Picks” you speak of?

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by mikefive on Jul 1, 2010 12:45 PM EDT up reply actions  

Apparently its part of a Ponzi scheme.
We never ever really had them to start with

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by Prometheus74 on Jul 1, 2010 12:47 PM EDT up reply actions  

wow we will really miss that pick

by chrislanci on Jul 1, 2010 12:44 PM EDT up reply actions  

Tanguay to the Flames, $1.7m/1yr

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by The Dark on Jul 1, 2010 12:44 PM EDT reply actions  

Craig Custance reports that Coburn’s deal was actually done late last night.

by Ben Feldman on Jul 1, 2010 12:44 PM EDT reply actions  

I’ve been told there’s been no contact between the Flyers and FA forward Arron Asham.

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by Mitchell Green on Jul 1, 2010 12:46 PM EDT reply actions  

Yeah, they told him he’s not coming back.

by Ben Feldman on Jul 1, 2010 12:46 PM EDT up reply actions  

I for one

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by boknows71 on Jul 1, 2010 12:47 PM EDT up reply actions  

Agreed. He’s a great guy.

I’m also not surprised he’s not coming back.

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by Orange and Black Forever on Jul 1, 2010 12:51 PM EDT up reply actions  

I would love to have him back. I really appreciate those grit guys. But the difference is is that along with grit and hard work, Asham can play. He has serious skills for a 4th line player. Would love to have him back, especially if he gives us a friendly contract.

by Dozer3677 on Jul 1, 2010 12:53 PM EDT up reply actions  

No surprise.

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by Justin F. on Jul 1, 2010 12:47 PM EDT up reply actions  

I could see them inviting him to camp if he still isn’t signed at that point …

by ic0n67 on Jul 1, 2010 12:49 PM EDT up reply actions  

Gonchar’s price sets the market. Paul Martin’s price is now between 5- 5.5M. Wow!! Best bet seems ro be Pitt and LA.

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by Mitchell Green on Jul 1, 2010 12:47 PM EDT reply actions  

Deal is not done yet, stress that, but Paul Martin eager to sign in PIT and PIT eager to sign him. Working towards that. Stay tuned.

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by Ben Feldman on Jul 1, 2010 12:48 PM EDT up reply actions  

Just saw that. Interesting…

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by Mitchell Green on Jul 1, 2010 12:50 PM EDT up reply actions  

Ah, I’ve had a “Oh, fuck!” moment.

Martin in PIT – shit…

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by Orange and Black Forever on Jul 1, 2010 12:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

But they lost Gonchar, Eaton and Leopold (at least they have at this point). Not concerned, really. Not yet at least.

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by Travis Hughes on Jul 1, 2010 12:53 PM EDT up reply actions  

plus 5.5MM for Martin is going to squeeze them against the cap again, hopefully

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by HockeyOutsiders on Jul 1, 2010 12:54 PM EDT up reply actions  

Ah, thank you.

Now I feel better. :)

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by Orange and Black Forever on Jul 1, 2010 12:56 PM EDT up reply actions  

I’d say Martin a downgrade from Gonchar.

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by Mitchell Green on Jul 1, 2010 12:54 PM EDT up reply actions  

But he’ll play a lot longer and hits a lot harder.

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by TopShelfTony on Jul 1, 2010 12:54 PM EDT up reply actions  

And isn’t always hurt.

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by EREX21 on Jul 1, 2010 12:55 PM EDT up reply actions  

+1

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by TopShelfTony on Jul 1, 2010 12:56 PM EDT up reply actions  

On offense and PP time, yes. But Martin is a physical D man. A guy who can lock up a player and render a skill player ineffective. Two different types of Dman. I don’t want either in Pitt. Hoping Martin signs w/Tampa.

by Dozer3677 on Jul 1, 2010 12:55 PM EDT up reply actions  

Honestly, just about anybody is a downgrade from Gonchar. Anybody on the market, at least.

In a year or two, that changes… but right now…

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by Travis Hughes on Jul 1, 2010 12:55 PM EDT up reply actions  

The Sens are going to regret his contract in about two years.

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by EREX21 on Jul 1, 2010 12:57 PM EDT up reply actions  

No money, no flexibility, no real goalie, no prospects, no picks.

2009-2010 reduxx.

by Snevik on Jul 1, 2010 12:48 PM EDT reply actions  

I’ve gone completely reactionary at this point.

by Snevik on Jul 1, 2010 12:48 PM EDT up reply actions  

I really would hate to repeat the 2009-2010 season it was such a horrible year. /scarcasm

by chrislanci on Jul 1, 2010 12:51 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yes. I would legitimately hate that. May 2009 on was fine, but that was about 20% of the games played last season.

by Snevik on Jul 1, 2010 12:53 PM EDT up reply actions  

Agreed.

I don’t think the Flyers are done yet though.

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by Travis Hughes on Jul 1, 2010 12:54 PM EDT up reply actions  

They need to clear cap space though if they are going to swing another goalie (unlikely) or a winger

by historywillbemade on Jul 1, 2010 12:55 PM EDT up reply actions  

They have all summer to clear that space, though.

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by Travis Hughes on Jul 1, 2010 1:00 PM EDT up reply actions  

They actually have goalie prospects and defensive prospects. Things aren’t so awful.

by Ben Feldman on Jul 1, 2010 12:49 PM EDT up reply actions  

We also have a defense that is quite a step up from last years IMO.

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by Psy09 on Jul 1, 2010 12:50 PM EDT up reply actions  

yeah if Coburn plays like he did in the playoffs Mezaros is a huge upgrade over the Doomsday Pairing and a full season of Leino-Briere-Hartnell and Lavy gets a training camp. Through in 15lbs on JVR I will take it.

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2009-2010 wasn’t so bad…

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by JasonB on Jul 1, 2010 12:50 PM EDT up reply actions  

Does the Meszaros trade mean Tampa is on the market for Kovalchuk and or Nabakov?

by ic0n67 on Jul 1, 2010 12:48 PM EDT reply actions  

No, but reading they are competing w/Pitt for Paul Martins services.

by Dozer3677 on Jul 1, 2010 12:51 PM EDT up reply actions  

Well after the trade they are 23M+ under the cap … Yzerman is a smart hockey guy … to compete in a division for Alex the great you are going to need a caliber goalie and a claiber scorer.

by ic0n67 on Jul 1, 2010 12:54 PM EDT up reply actions  

Almost 28M – they were at 23.8 before trading Mezsaros.

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by The Dark on Jul 1, 2010 12:55 PM EDT up reply actions  

agreed. I just think Kovalchuk will be too pricey. But I can see them signing a veteran goalie if they don’t resign Nitty. Maybe they do go after a veteran goalie. But I never see Tampa as signing a big name guy. Just a bunch of B or C players. Never a A name.

by Dozer3677 on Jul 1, 2010 12:57 PM EDT up reply actions  

At least NHL.com has confidence ...

http://www.nhl.com/ice/news.htm?id=533377

“Philadelphia, meanwhile, made sure its defense heading into the 2010-11 season is second to none, adding Andrej Meszaros through trade and then re-signing its own Braydon Coburn to a new two-year deal.

The Flyers also re-signed goalie Michael Leighton on Wednesday."

by MaximumTalbot on Jul 1, 2010 12:51 PM EDT reply actions  

Meszaros on being No. 5 “I want to be a part of this team and I want to win. I am a team guy. Whatever the coach wants me to do I will do.”

by Ben Feldman on Jul 1, 2010 12:51 PM EDT reply actions   2 recs

The guy has a good attitude. That is always nice to see.

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by Justin F. on Jul 1, 2010 12:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

take notes carter!

by phinally on Jul 1, 2010 12:53 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

zing!

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by hintzy64 on Jul 1, 2010 12:53 PM EDT up reply actions  

for real

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by EREX21 on Jul 1, 2010 12:53 PM EDT up reply actions  

Did he ever say I won’t play wing I think all that stuff is so over blown.

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I’m sure I could splice together a video of him saying it, if that’ll meet your needs.

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by hintzy64 on Jul 1, 2010 12:57 PM EDT up reply actions  

no but look at the way he presents himself. he just looks like he thinks he is the shit and would rather be doing a shoot for maxim if they paid enough. he seems like he’s all money. no heart

by phinally on Jul 1, 2010 12:58 PM EDT up reply actions  

and i mean, look at the post game interviews after game six. compare richards emotions to carters. carter was cleaning his golf clubs while they were talking to him. richards was about to cry.

by phinally on Jul 1, 2010 1:04 PM EDT up reply actions  

He has said he does not like playing the wing. Never flat out said he won’t but that he doesn’t like to.

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by EREX21 on Jul 1, 2010 12:58 PM EDT up reply actions  

+1

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by Orange and Black Forever on Jul 1, 2010 12:54 PM EDT up reply actions  

who says he’s #5 though. they migh demote Coburn possibly, especially if coburn/timo start out next season like they did this one right?

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by HockeyOutsiders on Jul 1, 2010 12:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

still $4 or 3.2 million for a #5 defense. flyers sure seem like they are betting on great defense to bail out mediocre goaltending

by historywillbemade on Jul 1, 2010 12:53 PM EDT up reply actions  

As Ben said above, the team can be 10% over the salary cap until the end of August. Look for the Flyers to add contracts before getting rid of them. We may get a goalie yet.

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by mikefive on Jul 1, 2010 12:54 PM EDT up reply actions  

mirtle It’s worth noting teams can spend up to $65.3-million until the season starts.

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by TopShelfTony on Jul 1, 2010 12:55 PM EDT up reply actions  

yep can score if you can’t get scoring chances

by chrislanci on Jul 1, 2010 12:55 PM EDT up reply actions  

can’t score if you can’t get scoring chances

by chrislanci on Jul 1, 2010 12:55 PM EDT up reply actions  

uh, with Leighton in net, all it’s going to take is a couple odd man rushes.

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by HockeyOutsiders on Jul 1, 2010 12:56 PM EDT up reply actions  

I rather over pay for a 5th D-Man than overpay for Mediocre Goaltending.

by chrislanci on Jul 1, 2010 12:58 PM EDT up reply actions  

Sadly, I think we did both.

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by EREX21 on Jul 1, 2010 12:58 PM EDT up reply actions  

yup, haha.

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by HockeyOutsiders on Jul 1, 2010 12:59 PM EDT up reply actions  

So we’re done, you think?

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by TopShelfTony on Jul 1, 2010 12:59 PM EDT up reply actions  

1.55 million for Leighton is not over paying we 2.5 million in goaltending

by chrislanci on Jul 1, 2010 12:59 PM EDT up reply actions  

dude, with Biron making 900K, you’re way overpaying Leighton.

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by HockeyOutsiders on Jul 1, 2010 1:00 PM EDT up reply actions  

Good point. I’d take Marty back over Leighton

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by Mitchell Green on Jul 1, 2010 1:01 PM EDT up reply actions  

absolutely. Marty can atleast steal a game every now and then (see 2008 montreal series)

by historywillbemade on Jul 1, 2010 1:02 PM EDT up reply actions  

How many shutouts did Leighton have vs. the Candiens in 2010 but they don’t count I forgot.

by chrislanci on Jul 1, 2010 1:03 PM EDT up reply actions  

and did Biron have a defense composed of Chris Pronger skating in front of him?

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by HockeyOutsiders on Jul 1, 2010 1:04 PM EDT up reply actions  

Biron couldn't keep a starting roll of it was attached to him

Biron let in so many soft goals.
Also how many times did he lose the starting Job?
Leighton and Boosh switched starting jobs due to injuries not out of general suckness

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by Prometheus74 on Jul 1, 2010 1:13 PM EDT up reply actions  

We should probably judge every player’s contract on three games. Seems like a good strategy.

Based on his season on a whole, which was remarkable, he still wasn’t worth this money. The only way he is worth 1.55mil is if Jeff Reese is correct in assuming he can improve his positioning and rebound control with another year of coaching.

by Snevik on Jul 1, 2010 1:07 PM EDT up reply actions  

I think Leighton was overpaid but I’ll give Reese the benefit of the doubt if that had something to do with that.

by Ben Feldman on Jul 1, 2010 1:08 PM EDT up reply actions  

That was definitely a then. What about now?

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by TopShelfTony on Jul 1, 2010 1:03 PM EDT up reply actions  

Biron would not sign as a starter for 900K. So that is a mute point.

by chrislanci on Jul 1, 2010 1:02 PM EDT up reply actions  

are you serious? Leighton shouldnt’ be signed as a starter either and all signs have said “he isn’t the starter” he’s going to compete for the starting job. So Leighton is the starter either.

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by HockeyOutsiders on Jul 1, 2010 1:04 PM EDT up reply actions  

If you rather have Biron than Leighton that is fine but don’t think you would get him cheaper than we got Leighton they would have cost the same cap hit.

by chrislanci on Jul 1, 2010 1:05 PM EDT up reply actions  

whatever dude. Biron just signed for 900K, that’s a pretty good indication of what his worth is.

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by HockeyOutsiders on Jul 1, 2010 1:06 PM EDT up reply actions  

Remember … 1.5 is NOT a lot of money
1.5 is what you give to a third line player, 5th D man … backup goalie …

Just like last year the Flyers would not have signed Biron at the price he finally settled at so overall the point is pretty moot. It isn’t like he said "I am going to take less than a million a year to who ever offers’ He took that money sit and backup a workhorse goalie …

by ic0n67 on Jul 1, 2010 1:08 PM EDT up reply actions  

I’d rather have Biron over Leighton and I don’t particularly like either of them.

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by EREX21 on Jul 1, 2010 1:09 PM EDT up reply actions  

and Biron would have been 600K cheaper, which is my point. I’m in the same boat as you. Biron is slightly better than Leighton, IMO and I could do without either of them, but if you had to pick one….

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by HockeyOutsiders on Jul 1, 2010 1:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

As a fucking backup to Lundquist he is worth 900K as a guy trying to compete for a number 1 job he is not going to take 900K.

Play 10 GMs at 900K or Play 30 GMs at 900K what would you do ?

by chrislanci on Jul 1, 2010 1:12 PM EDT up reply actions  

are you insane?

Dear Biron, you can make 900K with the Rangers as a backup or you can make 900K with the Flyers and potentially compete for the starting job.

Which does he pick?

uh, yeah, i’ll take 900K to be a backup please.

 yeah right, dont’ be stupid.

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by HockeyOutsiders on Jul 1, 2010 1:13 PM EDT up reply actions  

Some guys actually like playing, Marty seems to be one of those guys.

If someone’s mentality is to get 900K to basically ride the bench over a chance to play a significant amount of time then he might as well retire.

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by EREX21 on Jul 1, 2010 1:15 PM EDT up reply actions  

If you can get 6 players capable of playing a good solid 20+ minutes it doesn’t become a matter of Guy A is a D4 and Guy b is a D5. It think 6 guys who could be that out there late in the game with a one goal leader that is more what the Flyers are going for.

by ic0n67 on Jul 1, 2010 12:56 PM EDT up reply actions  

I bet some nights he gets minutes of a 4 and some nights he gets minutes of a 5. The beauty of this, and what I said yesterday was that having a stud goalie is awesome but having a stud defensive unit means that guys like Pronger and Timmo aren’t over worked. Adding Mez and resigning Coburn benefits a group of 6.

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by EREX21 on Jul 1, 2010 12:53 PM EDT up reply actions  

See he may be listed as a #5 but they really need him to eat a ton of minutes to preserve Kimmo and Pronger, so he, hopefully, won’t be playing 3rd line pairing minutes.

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by Mitchell Green on Jul 1, 2010 12:56 PM EDT up reply actions  

minutes will be much more spreadout with the 5some we have now

by bleedorangewhiteblack on Jul 1, 2010 1:02 PM EDT up reply actions  

Exactly and that is what we really need to. Carle, Coburn and Mez need to step up and be counted on to give Prongs and Kimmo some rest.

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by Mitchell Green on Jul 1, 2010 1:04 PM EDT up reply actions  

I don’t mind fixing the defense but man are we ever overpaying for Coburn and Meszaros at 3.2 and 4.0 million. Way too much money there. It makes it impossible to go after a goalie unless someone is headed out of town.

by historywillbemade on Jul 1, 2010 12:52 PM EDT reply actions  

Odds of Carter being dealt?

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by The Dark on Jul 1, 2010 12:54 PM EDT reply actions  

Probably not great still. Hopefully I am wrong.

by Chris22 on Jul 1, 2010 12:55 PM EDT up reply actions  

Not now. But vbefore the deadline? 3/1.

by Snevik on Jul 1, 2010 12:55 PM EDT up reply actions  

I’ve always seen that as more likely, if he were ever to be moved (IMHO, he won’t be).

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by Orange and Black Forever on Jul 1, 2010 12:59 PM EDT up reply actions  

Not nearly as high as I wish they were.

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by EREX21 on Jul 1, 2010 12:55 PM EDT up reply actions  

then he needs to play wing and be a team player

by historywillbemade on Jul 1, 2010 12:57 PM EDT up reply actions  

Carter can center the second line with JVR and Giroux as his wingers, and Richards centers the third line with Gags and Carbomb, but gets more minutes than a typical (read: not the Pens) third line. Besides, Gagne is getting old, and Richie plays a TON of special teams minutes, so its not like he needs full-strength time to stay at 18+ minutes a game.

by MaximumTalbot on Jul 1, 2010 1:12 PM EDT up reply actions  

We should do this. Giroux needs to learn to play wing to get minutes, with Briere and Richie in front of him.

by Snevik on Jul 1, 2010 1:23 PM EDT up reply actions  

His best value in a trade is right now. … But he does hit RFA next year so they could really start thinking about letting him go then … or letting Gagne go

by ic0n67 on Jul 1, 2010 12:57 PM EDT up reply actions  

I heard rumors the other day of Gagne headed out of town, which would be sad and we’d still need Carter to learn to play wing. I am not at all happy with goalie situation. I hope that they find someway to get an Ellis or Mason

by historywillbemade on Jul 1, 2010 12:59 PM EDT up reply actions  

I don’t want that to happen … I’ll need to buy a new jersey ( ._.)

by ic0n67 on Jul 1, 2010 1:01 PM EDT up reply actions  

Who was that masked man?

 
BroadStHockey Can’t emphasize this enough. Flyers can still grab a goalie.

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by TopShelfTony on Jul 1, 2010 1:00 PM EDT reply actions  

but they’d have to clear cap space.

by historywillbemade on Jul 1, 2010 1:01 PM EDT up reply actions  

They can spend 10% over the cap as long as they clear that by the end of Aug. So they can sign someone now, and worry about who to get rid of later. So yes and no. Someone else mentioned it, but maybe they buy out or trade Hartnell.

by Dozer3677 on Jul 1, 2010 1:03 PM EDT up reply actions  

Hartnell has a no trade clause

by ic0n67 on Jul 1, 2010 1:04 PM EDT up reply actions  

Couldn’t you slip a little money under the table to have him waive it?

by Dozer3677 on Jul 1, 2010 1:05 PM EDT up reply actions  

Buying out Hartnell this year:

Original contract amount: $11.1m over three years
Original averaged amount: $12.6m over three years
Buyout amount: $7.4m over six years ($1.233m per year)
Buyout savings: $2.967 2010-11, $2.467 2011-12, $1.967 2012-13
Cap hit: $1.233 2010-11, $1.733 2011-12, $2.233 2012-13, $1.233 2013-14, 2014-15, & 2015-16

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by The Dark on Jul 1, 2010 1:10 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

the cap hit would vary from year to year?

by ic0n67 on Jul 1, 2010 1:12 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yes, because it’s based on the difference between what you’re paying him and what you would have paid him. Hartnell’s salary goes from $4.2 to $3.7 to $3.2 over the next three years, so the amount of money you save is less each year. The hit after his contract would have ended is just the amount you’re paying that year.

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by The Dark on Jul 1, 2010 1:14 PM EDT up reply actions  

I’d rather spend too much today on players and figure out how to fit them under the cap later than just sit on my hands today and watch all of my options disappear.

Homer’s just started. Everyone should wait until the dust settles before you judge his efforts.

by memphisbrando on Jul 1, 2010 1:07 PM EDT up reply actions  

Bingo

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by TopShelfTony on Jul 1, 2010 1:08 PM EDT up reply actions  

Reminds me of like half hour ago when we got Mez and everyone was like, “thats the end of Coburn”

by halx on Jul 1, 2010 1:09 PM EDT up reply actions  

I’m still not convinced that it shouldn’t have been.

by Snevik on Jul 1, 2010 1:26 PM EDT up reply actions  

Like Stevie Y was going to let him go anywhere...

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by TopShelfTony on Jul 1, 2010 1:02 PM EDT up reply actions  

Apparently Tampa believe St. Louis is the second coming of Chris Chelios.

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by The Dark on Jul 1, 2010 1:04 PM EDT up reply actions  

Tampa knows he’s the starter of the Stamkos engine.

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by TopShelfTony on Jul 1, 2010 1:05 PM EDT up reply actions  

You mean this Chelios?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DR-ZgMz3FIU

I don’t see the resemblance.

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by hintzy64 on Jul 1, 2010 1:08 PM EDT up reply actions  

It was an age joke. Tampa has St. Louis under contract until age 40 now

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by The Dark on Jul 1, 2010 1:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

Ah, now I’m on board. Thanks!

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by hintzy64 on Jul 1, 2010 1:12 PM EDT up reply actions  

damn i would have loved st. louis for carter haha

by phinally on Jul 1, 2010 1:01 PM EDT reply actions  

well as long as he’s stuck in tampa, fine by me

by bleedorangewhiteblack on Jul 1, 2010 1:02 PM EDT up reply actions  

Don’t think TB is going to roll? I do.

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by TopShelfTony on Jul 1, 2010 1:03 PM EDT up reply actions  

Not me, St. Louis is getting old, Carter isn’t

by halx on Jul 1, 2010 1:02 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah, it’s funny cuz they still suck.

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by hintzy64 on Jul 1, 2010 1:02 PM EDT reply actions  

Oops, that was in response to st. louis stuck in tb…

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by hintzy64 on Jul 1, 2010 1:03 PM EDT up reply actions  

Am told Dan Ellis close to signing with a team and it’s NOT Montreal

Eh?

by Ben Feldman on Jul 1, 2010 1:04 PM EDT reply actions  

And not Philadelphia. I’d be shocked if he did!

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by Mitchell Green on Jul 1, 2010 1:05 PM EDT up reply actions  

there’s a surprise…i’m more interested in the money he gets.

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by HockeyOutsiders on Jul 1, 2010 1:05 PM EDT up reply actions  

How WOULD that actually work? Maybe if we sign Ellis, we can package Boucher and Cote to somewhere?

by MaximumTalbot on Jul 1, 2010 1:09 PM EDT up reply actions  

So TB has dropped out of the race? Lets go LA then

by Dozer3677 on Jul 1, 2010 1:07 PM EDT up reply actions  

Agreed.

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by Orange and Black Forever on Jul 1, 2010 1:09 PM EDT up reply actions  

Rossi_on_Pens Pens VERY hard in pursuit of Martin

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by TopShelfTony on Jul 1, 2010 1:09 PM EDT up reply actions  

i don’t understand why LA would make a run at him. Their defense is already sick and their pipeline is stocked.

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by HockeyOutsiders on Jul 1, 2010 1:15 PM EDT up reply actions  

Well there is the current mantra of never enough D

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by TopShelfTony on Jul 1, 2010 1:16 PM EDT up reply actions  

Not enough

resignin Coburn and gettin Meszaros is not enough.

If we dont find a way to a RW or another goalie.

This will not be a good day for the flyers.

by bleedorangewhiteblack on Jul 1, 2010 1:09 PM EDT reply actions  

i dont think it’s over yet. and right now, we’re better then last year

by phinally on Jul 1, 2010 1:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

Z. Michalek to Pitt. Done.

Oof.

by Ben Feldman on Jul 1, 2010 1:10 PM EDT reply actions  

[throws things]

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by hintzy64 on Jul 1, 2010 1:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

Damn!!! I knew I read that right. And they still want Martin. Went from very happy to not really so much. Can’t let them get martin too.

by Dozer3677 on Jul 1, 2010 1:12 PM EDT up reply actions  

Fuck the Pens!

(Yeah, I know it doesn’t change anything, but it feels good to say it.)

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by Orange and Black Forever on Jul 1, 2010 1:29 PM EDT up reply actions  

Could been worse. Coulda been Martin.

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by TopShelfTony on Jul 1, 2010 1:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

Just announced the Penguins are OUT again OUT of the Paul Martin sweepstakes.

by Dozer3677 on Jul 1, 2010 1:17 PM EDT up reply actions  

+1

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by Orange and Black Forever on Jul 1, 2010 1:28 PM EDT up reply actions  

DarrenDreger Z. Michalek to Pitt. Done.

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by TopShelfTony on Jul 1, 2010 1:11 PM EDT reply actions  

That only scares me if they get Martin, too.

by Snevik on Jul 1, 2010 1:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

C’mon LA…

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by hintzy64 on Jul 1, 2010 1:12 PM EDT up reply actions  

If the Pens get Michalek and Martin, then I worry.

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by Travis Hughes on Jul 1, 2010 1:12 PM EDT reply actions  

This x infinity….

and beyond.

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by EREX21 on Jul 1, 2010 1:12 PM EDT up reply actions  

Would have to move a lot of $ to do that plus Michalek, wouldn’t they?

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by TopShelfTony on Jul 1, 2010 1:14 PM EDT up reply actions  

I have no idea, honestly. I’m having a hard time keeping track of everybody’s cap numbers.

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by Travis Hughes on Jul 1, 2010 1:18 PM EDT up reply actions  

Michalek to Pitt. 5 year, 20 mil.

by Ben Feldman on Jul 1, 2010 1:12 PM EDT reply actions  

Why couldn’t the Flyers do this instead of trading for Meszaros?

by edbro on Jul 1, 2010 1:13 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah, they must really like him. Or maybe they figured Michalek wouldn’t be interested in the role Meszaros is getting.

by Ben Feldman on Jul 1, 2010 1:14 PM EDT up reply actions  

I guess so, hopefully he proves to be worth the money.

by edbro on Jul 1, 2010 1:15 PM EDT up reply actions  

Because if you add more people bidding in theory his price would go up, plus there would still be no guarantee that you would get him. With a trade you are sure to get the guy. Also you only have Meszaros for 2 (maybe 3) more years instead of 5.

by ic0n67 on Jul 1, 2010 1:15 PM EDT up reply actions  

But there was no rush to trade for Meszaros. If that deal is on the table, why not bid at Michalek?

by Snevik on Jul 1, 2010 1:19 PM EDT up reply actions  

OK – that is definitely more than I woudl have paid him, but I would have been thrilled to see him in a Flyers jersey.

by MaximumTalbot on Jul 1, 2010 1:13 PM EDT up reply actions  

Just announced, the Pens are OUT, again, OUT of the Paul Martin sweepstakes.

by Dozer3677 on Jul 1, 2010 1:18 PM EDT up reply actions  

Just a question

how the hell do the penguins find room for those guys when they have to keep Orpik, Crosby, Malkin, Staal and Fluery and Letang all under contract.

by bleedorangewhiteblack on Jul 1, 2010 1:13 PM EDT reply actions  

they lost Guerin and Gonchar

by chrislanci on Jul 1, 2010 1:13 PM EDT up reply actions  

seconded

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by TopShelfTony on Jul 1, 2010 1:15 PM EDT up reply actions  

and Dupuis, Kennedy, Adams, and Talbot have really good deals for what they mean to that team

by chrislanci on Jul 1, 2010 1:17 PM EDT up reply actions  

yeh forgot about Talbot and Dupuis.

fucking Pens and they’re awesome GM. goddamnit.

by bleedorangewhiteblack on Jul 1, 2010 1:19 PM EDT up reply actions  

and only have 3 D under contract right now

by chrislanci on Jul 1, 2010 1:15 PM EDT up reply actions  

4 with Michalek, but they’re still looking at signing a few forwards and 2 more D for $8.5m

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by The Dark on Jul 1, 2010 1:16 PM EDT up reply actions  

5 if you figure Lovejoy can play NHL minutes.

Michalek, Orpik, Letang, Goligoski, and Lovejoy.

by MaximumTalbot on Jul 1, 2010 1:20 PM EDT up reply actions  

Eaton?

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by TopShelfTony on Jul 1, 2010 1:21 PM EDT up reply actions  

UFA

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by The Dark on Jul 1, 2010 1:22 PM EDT up reply actions  

Thanks. Thought so. Heard Rangers were talking to him.

Bet Ray would like to keep him though.

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by TopShelfTony on Jul 1, 2010 1:24 PM EDT up reply actions  

Even with Michalek, that’s really not that intimidating.

by SteelBirdFlyer on Jul 1, 2010 1:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

You’re forgetting the La Flower stands behind them, ready to impose his will on anything that gets through.

by Snevik on Jul 1, 2010 1:38 PM EDT up reply actions  

Two words:

Creative Accounting.

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by hintzy64 on Jul 1, 2010 1:15 PM EDT up reply actions  

Another two words:

bottom line

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by TopShelfTony on Jul 1, 2010 1:16 PM EDT up reply actions  

“Bettman’s corruption of the league” … there i corrected it for you

by ic0n67 on Jul 1, 2010 1:16 PM EDT up reply actions  

Three words:

He’s A Shero

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by EREX21 on Jul 1, 2010 1:16 PM EDT up reply actions  

i swear Bettman and the NHL are in cohoots with the pens.

by bleedorangewhiteblack on Jul 1, 2010 1:16 PM EDT up reply actions  

Why is that?

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by EREX21 on Jul 1, 2010 1:17 PM EDT up reply actions  

Conspiracy theories cover all the bases.

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by TopShelfTony on Jul 1, 2010 1:19 PM EDT up reply actions  

Which is why I prefer that you don’t make too many public speeches about the Flyers and the NHL.

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by Grp_Cpt_Lionel_Mandrake on Jul 1, 2010 1:18 PM EDT up reply actions  

What?

I thought they were busy conspiring against Vancouver!

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by hintzy64 on Jul 1, 2010 1:18 PM EDT up reply actions  

Conspiracy theories cover all the bases.

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by TopShelfTony on Jul 1, 2010 1:19 PM EDT up reply actions  

Here here!
You did see Bettman throw a puck into the net in Game 6 right/ Leighton was really confused when he found a puck in the glove and behind him

by ic0n67 on Jul 1, 2010 1:21 PM EDT up reply actions  

I saw nothing! Nothing!

And you can’t prove I did.

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by TopShelfTony on Jul 1, 2010 1:22 PM EDT up reply actions  

Burish

Ek says Burish may be going to the Devils. That would be interesting. If so, Pronger’s gonna have plenty of chances to remind him of his misguided comments…

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by LVHokejs on Jul 1, 2010 1:16 PM EDT reply actions  

That would be lovely.

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by EREX21 on Jul 1, 2010 1:16 PM EDT up reply actions  

I might have to fly over from England for a game then. :)

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by Orange and Black Forever on Jul 1, 2010 1:31 PM EDT up reply actions  

I want to see this man as much as possible.

by Snevik on Jul 1, 2010 1:18 PM EDT up reply actions  

Hope you have tickets to their AHL affiliate Burish won’t make that team.

by chrislanci on Jul 1, 2010 1:18 PM EDT up reply actions  

I’ll gladly buy a pair of tickets for Pronger and his wife to go enjoy watching Burish in an Albany Devils game. Beer is on me, too.

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by hintzy64 on Jul 1, 2010 1:21 PM EDT up reply actions  

I’ll be looking forward to seeing him for 12 games next year!

by ryan1 on Jul 1, 2010 1:22 PM EDT up reply actions  

He’ll be in the minors in no time.

Chris Pronger stole my last signature.

by Justin F. on Jul 1, 2010 1:18 PM EDT up reply actions  

Sigh, Eklund.

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by Travis Hughes on Jul 1, 2010 1:19 PM EDT up reply actions  

Was wondering when someone would mention that.

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by TopShelfTony on Jul 1, 2010 1:20 PM EDT up reply actions  

Regardless of he signs with, he’ll be in the minors in no time.

Chris Pronger stole my last signature.

by Justin F. on Jul 1, 2010 1:21 PM EDT up reply actions  

If he isn’t there already.

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by TopShelfTony on Jul 1, 2010 1:23 PM EDT up reply actions  

I can’t figure out who overpaid more…Flyers for Coburn, Sens for Gonchar or Pens for Michalek…

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by EREX21 on Jul 1, 2010 1:19 PM EDT reply actions  

Sens … it is a 35+ contract … plus i think this entire board undervalues Coburn >.>

by ic0n67 on Jul 1, 2010 1:19 PM EDT up reply actions  

depends on which Coburn plays next season. The last year’s version or the year before that version.

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by HockeyOutsiders on Jul 1, 2010 1:23 PM EDT up reply actions  

well basically there's your answer

Defensemen were going expensive. So they were all getting overpaid. Homer probably went and get Meszos for 4 mil for a long team deal just because of that. He didnt want to get in a bidding war with other teams over defensemen and then REALLY overpay or come away with nothing.

by bleedorangewhiteblack on Jul 1, 2010 1:21 PM EDT up reply actions  

truth is..

if Coburn would ever get back on track to hitting his potential, then 3.2 mil a year might be cheap for him. a couple years ago Coburn seemed like a potential frachise defenseman for life here.

by bleedorangewhiteblack on Jul 1, 2010 1:23 PM EDT up reply actions  

5 mil for Zybenek Michalek is Steep

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by Prometheus74 on Jul 1, 2010 1:21 PM EDT up reply actions  

Its a 4 mill cap hit right? I thought it was 20mill over 5 years.

by edbro on Jul 1, 2010 1:21 PM EDT up reply actions  

It’s $4 million a year for 5 years. Still too much, but a mild correction.

by MaximumTalbot on Jul 1, 2010 1:22 PM EDT up reply actions  

Talking right now Hamhuis to Toronto for 7mil a yr, if that is true, that is the overpay of the day.

by Dozer3677 on Jul 1, 2010 1:21 PM EDT up reply actions  

That is INSANE

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by EREX21 on Jul 1, 2010 1:22 PM EDT up reply actions  

That can’t be right. 7 mil for 2 years maybe?

by halx on Jul 1, 2010 1:22 PM EDT up reply actions  

I think the Flyers would have taken 7M over 2

by ic0n67 on Jul 1, 2010 1:23 PM EDT up reply actions  

No one is that stupid to make that deal.

by edbro on Jul 1, 2010 1:22 PM EDT up reply actions  

Plus, the Leafs don’t need any more D men, they need forwards

by halx on Jul 1, 2010 1:23 PM EDT up reply actions  

uklaskorner:
RT @erinnicks: Worth a RT for the “B4” RT @NotSunGarrioch: Source telling me Hamhuis to #Leafs for 7M per year is close. B4.

by Dozer3677 on Jul 1, 2010 1:23 PM EDT up reply actions  

I am flabbergasted at that very notion

by halx on Jul 1, 2010 1:24 PM EDT up reply actions  

7 mill per?! HOLY S.H.I.T

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by PatterPoet95 on Jul 1, 2010 1:24 PM EDT up reply actions  

agreed. I am happy he left town. Hell, for 7 mil a yr, he can go to pitt.

by Dozer3677 on Jul 1, 2010 1:25 PM EDT up reply actions  

…or the Leafs.

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by Orange and Black Forever on Jul 1, 2010 1:32 PM EDT up reply actions  

Burke likes a big splash but I dunno about this one.

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by TopShelfTony on Jul 1, 2010 1:25 PM EDT up reply actions  

Oh. You do realize that account is a joke, right?

by Ben Feldman on Jul 1, 2010 1:26 PM EDT up reply actions  

Do now. Heh heh heh

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by TopShelfTony on Jul 1, 2010 1:28 PM EDT up reply actions  

No, I take that as gospel. Everything posted here is supposed to be accurate and informed…

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by PatterPoet95 on Jul 1, 2010 1:28 PM EDT up reply actions  

I MEANT

In the threads- Travis, Geoff, Ben, please do not be offended by that. You guys are awesome and this site rules…

Good god- foot in mouth.

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by PatterPoet95 on Jul 1, 2010 1:31 PM EDT up reply actions  

Haha, no worries.

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by Travis Hughes on Jul 1, 2010 1:32 PM EDT up reply actions  

You guys know that’s a fake twitter account, right?

Sources say that this is a parody. I am not Bruce Garrioch. Any trades suggested in this account are not real, kind of like the real Bruce Garrioch.

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by Travis Hughes on Jul 1, 2010 1:26 PM EDT up reply actions  

Blockquote fail.

Sources say that this is a parody. I am not Bruce Garrioch. Any trades suggested in this account are not real, kind of like the real Bruce Garrioch.

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by Travis Hughes on Jul 1, 2010 1:26 PM EDT up reply actions  

yes, reading that was a mistake. Like espn, reporting things that aren’t true until they are proven….not true.

by Dozer3677 on Jul 1, 2010 1:28 PM EDT up reply actions  

That is Jeff-Finger-ridiculous.

by Snevik on Jul 1, 2010 1:25 PM EDT up reply actions  

Just asked a Flyers source if they are the team reportedly close to signing Dan Ellis. The response? … “It’s not us.”

by Ben Feldman on Jul 1, 2010 1:23 PM EDT reply actions  

I am hearing San Jose is the team.

by Dozer3677 on Jul 1, 2010 1:24 PM EDT up reply actions  

Hello, Nabokov

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by The Dark on Jul 1, 2010 1:25 PM EDT up reply actions  

Good for them. Nice folks out there.

by Snevik on Jul 1, 2010 1:25 PM EDT up reply actions  

Who said that?

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by Travis Hughes on Jul 1, 2010 1:27 PM EDT up reply actions  

I dunno. He’s on first. You go ask him.

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by TopShelfTony on Jul 1, 2010 1:28 PM EDT up reply actions  

That was good. First time all day I’ve laughed out loud.

by Ben Feldman on Jul 1, 2010 1:29 PM EDT up reply actions  

Well played, sir.

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by hintzy64 on Jul 1, 2010 1:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

No, Idontknow is on third base. Who’s on first.

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by The Dark on Jul 1, 2010 1:32 PM EDT up reply actions  

What are you asking me for?

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by hintzy64 on Jul 1, 2010 1:33 PM EDT up reply actions  

Isn’t he on second?

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by PatterPoet95 on Jul 1, 2010 1:34 PM EDT up reply actions  

Forget it. San Jose just signed Nitty. Good move for both.

by Dozer3677 on Jul 1, 2010 1:35 PM EDT up reply actions  

michael leighton as our starting goalie? fuck.

they better DO something else. get a RW so at least i feel a little bit better. ugh.

by bleedorangewhiteblack on Jul 1, 2010 1:25 PM EDT up reply actions  

Patience.

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by TopShelfTony on Jul 1, 2010 1:26 PM EDT up reply actions  

I rather ink Foster or Armstrong right now over Ellis.

by chrislanci on Jul 1, 2010 1:25 PM EDT reply actions  

if Nabokov gets left out in the cold out of all of this and has to go somwhere for really cheap. thats the only shot we got.

by bleedorangewhiteblack on Jul 1, 2010 1:26 PM EDT reply actions  

League source: “Nothing cooking for Flyers on goaltending front.” That doesn’t mean they aren’t looking at something else.

by Ben Feldman on Jul 1, 2010 1:27 PM EDT reply actions  

they aren’t because they signed motherf’ing micheal leighton for 1.5MM!

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by HockeyOutsiders on Jul 1, 2010 1:29 PM EDT up reply actions  

Patience.

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by TopShelfTony on Jul 1, 2010 1:37 PM EDT up reply actions  

If it means anything to anyone...

E4 Ellis close with philly on hockeybuzz

by 88Flyers on Jul 1, 2010 1:28 PM EDT reply actions  

Yeah, that means nothing.

by Ben Feldman on Jul 1, 2010 1:28 PM EDT up reply actions  

haha I know just throwing it out there,

by 88Flyers on Jul 1, 2010 1:29 PM EDT up reply actions  

It means, after today, Ek will have enough money for another Ferrari.

by Snevik on Jul 1, 2010 1:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah, about four seconds after SanFilippo and Seravalli say that’s not the case.

These guys could at least humor us by lining their bullshit somewhat up with reality.

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by Travis Hughes on Jul 1, 2010 1:31 PM EDT up reply actions  

Rumor just read that Ellis and Leighton share an agent, and Ellis won’t sign in Philly. Don’t know the truth to that.

by Dozer3677 on Jul 1, 2010 1:33 PM EDT up reply actions  

That means we’re not getting Ellis

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by The Dark on Jul 1, 2010 1:51 PM EDT up reply actions  

Tocchet tells me abuot Meszaros: "He had the willingness to play hurt, I have to give him credit." …

That from Panotch.

by Ben Feldman on Jul 1, 2010 1:30 PM EDT reply actions  

But no comment about Mezsaros’ defensive ability from his former coach? This better not be the NHL equivalent of, when being asked your opinions on an ugly chick, responding with, “she’s got a great personality.”

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by Grp_Cpt_Lionel_Mandrake on Jul 1, 2010 1:33 PM EDT up reply actions  

That’s how I took it, kinda

by DragonGirl0583 on Jul 1, 2010 1:33 PM EDT up reply actions  

I do remember reading Lappy-esque story about him getting hit in the face, getting stitched up and coming back for the next period. Toughness is always a plus. Also, even though the price seems steep, I think everyone here is too down on this guy because we know very little and he had been playing in Tampa. I think he was decent in OTT, and then TB brought him in to be a #1, thus the high salary, and he just wasn’t that. He’s probably a #3, so if we’re playing him at #4 or #5, I think that sounds excellent.

Again, I don’t know much about non-Flyers, but I had him on a fantasy team last year, so I read a few articles about him. What you want to take out of that kind of knowledge is your choice, but I’m hoping it’s one of those poor fit on a poor team kind of things and he’ll have less pressure here and will end up being a good pickup.

by SteelBirdFlyer on Jul 1, 2010 1:48 PM EDT up reply actions  

just one comment

tocchet wasnt giving his player history, he just made a comment about him, just because he didnt go over his defensive history means nothing. reading too much into it.

by bleedorangewhiteblack on Jul 1, 2010 1:34 PM EDT up reply actions  

Just curious...

But is anyone else besides me blatantly stealing money from their company by just sitting at work and hitting Z every two seconds? Or am I the only asshole?

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by EREX21 on Jul 1, 2010 1:30 PM EDT reply actions  

I was on lunchbreak...

…until 1:00. But NOW it’s blatant stealing.

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by hintzy64 on Jul 1, 2010 1:31 PM EDT up reply actions  

It’s my day off, but hitting z constantly trying to keep up is making me dizzy, I can’t even change tabs to check the one with twitter.

by DragonGirl0583 on Jul 1, 2010 1:31 PM EDT up reply actions  

I took a sick day – that’s pretty close …

by MaximumTalbot on Jul 1, 2010 1:31 PM EDT up reply actions  

Nope. Count me into the asshole club, too.

by halx on Jul 1, 2010 1:31 PM EDT up reply actions  

Me- but today is my last day here so…

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by PatterPoet95 on Jul 1, 2010 1:32 PM EDT up reply actions  

Minor asshole – I’ll achieve something, then spend a couple minutes updating, then go back to stuff again.

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by The Dark on Jul 1, 2010 1:33 PM EDT up reply actions  

That’s what I’ve been doing…but only because I was told we have “strict deadlines to meet” today. :P

by SteelBirdFlyer on Jul 1, 2010 1:50 PM EDT up reply actions  

Ah, go for it. You know you want to. What’re the odds it comes back to bite you? Low low low

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by TopShelfTony on Jul 1, 2010 1:57 PM EDT up reply actions  

But is anyone else besides me blatantly stealing money from their company by just sitting at work and hitting Z every two seconds? Or am I the diehard Flyer fan?

Not by a long shot. And by the way, it’s not stealing it’s creative accounting. You’ll be more productive tomorrow knowing what’s happening today.

But, you do know they track your ’net use, right?

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by TopShelfTony on Jul 1, 2010 1:34 PM EDT up reply actions  

True but my company is under the assumption that I would never do something like this, thus, they don’t check me.

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by EREX21 on Jul 1, 2010 1:38 PM EDT up reply actions  

1. There’s always a 1st time.
2. Never assume.

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by TopShelfTony on Jul 1, 2010 1:44 PM EDT up reply actions  

True

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by EREX21 on Jul 1, 2010 1:45 PM EDT up reply actions  

I was scrolling, but now that you taught me the “Z” trick? Oh yeah. Suck it, anything Chicago-based.

by Snevik on Jul 1, 2010 1:34 PM EDT up reply actions  

guilty…

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by HockeyOutsiders on Jul 1, 2010 1:35 PM EDT up reply actions  

Alex Auld to Montreal 1 million, 1 year

Now, will Carey Price show up?

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by TopShelfTony on Jul 1, 2010 1:32 PM EDT reply actions  

Colby Armstrong has signed a three-year deal with the Toronto Maple Leafs.

There goes that dream.

by Ben Feldman on Jul 1, 2010 1:33 PM EDT reply actions  

Nice move for Burkie. Look out for the Leafs, I say it again. Maybe not this year (maybe so, though) but they’re getting going.

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by TopShelfTony on Jul 1, 2010 1:35 PM EDT up reply actions  

I refuse to consider the Leafs a quality side until they actually play a hockey game.

by Snevik on Jul 1, 2010 1:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

That’s sorta like closing your eyes or sticking your fingers in your ears and humming, isn’t it?

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by TopShelfTony on Jul 1, 2010 1:39 PM EDT up reply actions  

No, it’s sort of like judging the Toronto Maple Leafs team on merit, a lesson we all should have learned to do quite a long time ago.

by Snevik on Jul 1, 2010 1:43 PM EDT up reply actions  

But you’re judging on a team that didn’t have those players, yeah?

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by TopShelfTony on Jul 1, 2010 1:45 PM EDT up reply actions  

No, I’m saying “I refuse to think the 2010-11 Leafs will be good until I’ve seen them play good hockey.”

I’ve seen playoff-caliber Leafs teams on player pretty consistently during their dry stretch.

by Snevik on Jul 1, 2010 1:48 PM EDT up reply actions  

Fair enough. I didn’t get that from your original. I think you’ll say they’re good after you see them. I hope so if only because they’ll push the rest if they are. And I like that Burke.Can’t help it.

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by TopShelfTony on Jul 1, 2010 1:51 PM EDT up reply actions  

Definitely, they picked up Versteeg through a trade, they will surely be a much a better team next year.

by edbro on Jul 1, 2010 1:37 PM EDT up reply actions  

I agree.

They are a LOT more talented now.

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by Orange and Black Forever on Jul 1, 2010 1:39 PM EDT up reply actions  

Armstrong to Leafs.

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by Travis Hughes on Jul 1, 2010 1:33 PM EDT reply actions  

$$?

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by The Dark on Jul 1, 2010 1:34 PM EDT up reply actions  

3 years, $9 million.

by Ben Feldman on Jul 1, 2010 1:35 PM EDT up reply actions  

yeh we had no shot at that price.

by bleedorangewhiteblack on Jul 1, 2010 1:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

A Nittymaki signs with San Jose

That’s very interesting. Niitty to battle with Greiss for starting spot?

by Ben Feldman on Jul 1, 2010 1:34 PM EDT reply actions  

Niitty 2 years $4 million.

by Ben Feldman on Jul 1, 2010 1:34 PM EDT up reply actions  

so 3 years from now he’s going to sign back with Philly for $1MM?

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by HockeyOutsiders on Jul 1, 2010 1:37 PM EDT up reply actions  

The Thrashers must be relieved he’s in the West now

by DragonGirl0583 on Jul 1, 2010 1:39 PM EDT up reply actions  

Supposedly Pens are now BACK in the mix for Paul Martin, and an offer is on the table.

by Dozer3677 on Jul 1, 2010 1:34 PM EDT reply actions  

No, no, NO!

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by Orange and Black Forever on Jul 1, 2010 1:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

Supposedly

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by TopShelfTony on Jul 1, 2010 1:41 PM EDT up reply actions  

every comment should be prefaced with “supposedly”

by halx on Jul 1, 2010 1:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

it is true. So many things happen on a day like today, and in a matter of mins. I hope he signs with Tampa or LA. Do not, PLEASE DO NOT go to the Pens.

by Dozer3677 on Jul 1, 2010 1:43 PM EDT up reply actions  

+10000000

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by Orange and Black Forever on Jul 1, 2010 1:44 PM EDT up reply actions  

Except Eklund’s, which should be prefaced with, “And now for the Comedy Spot…”

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by TopShelfTony on Jul 1, 2010 1:47 PM EDT up reply actions  

True but half of Panotch’s tweets are totally ridiculous and off topic.

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by EREX21 on Jul 1, 2010 1:47 PM EDT up reply actions  

That’s what happens when you give new technology to an old person and demand that they use it.

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by Grp_Cpt_Lionel_Mandrake on Jul 1, 2010 1:48 PM EDT up reply actions  

I think over the season he’s grown to really like it. Always talking to Wild beat writer Michael Russo and Avalanche beat writer Adrian Dater.

by Ben Feldman on Jul 1, 2010 1:49 PM EDT up reply actions  

Which is super but honestly I don’t care about what sauce he is making, especially on a day like today.

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by EREX21 on Jul 1, 2010 1:51 PM EDT up reply actions  

Admit it though, you secretly love pretending he’s got actual Pronger locked up in his house forced to play with his cats.

by ohnickels on Jul 1, 2010 1:56 PM EDT up reply actions  

Ya, but he’s got style. You gotta love the old fart, am I right?

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by TopShelfTony on Jul 1, 2010 1:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

Alex Auld in Montreal, $1m/1yr

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by The Dark on Jul 1, 2010 1:35 PM EDT reply actions  

Ahhhh

The luogno trade lives on.

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by PatterPoet95 on Jul 1, 2010 1:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

ha ha. that is funny. How many yrs later?

by Dozer3677 on Jul 1, 2010 1:37 PM EDT up reply actions  

Got me, I was a lit major so I can’t count higher than 2

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by PatterPoet95 on Jul 1, 2010 1:49 PM EDT up reply actions  

haha so turco and nabakov have to be a little worried

by phinally on Jul 1, 2010 1:36 PM EDT reply actions  

Maybe a lot worried, considering we no longer have the cap room for either unless we make a trade

by DragonGirl0583 on Jul 1, 2010 1:37 PM EDT up reply actions  

Philadelphia and Tampa Bay the only teams looking for a starter at this point? Nabokov, Turco, Ellis, Mason still available.

by Ben Feldman on Jul 1, 2010 1:37 PM EDT up reply actions  

not to continue to say “I told you so” when I was expounding on economics yesterday, but ….

ah, nevermind, tell me again how Leighton’s going to carry this team back to the cup.

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by HockeyOutsiders on Jul 1, 2010 1:40 PM EDT up reply actions  

ytf did the flyers resign leights again other than you know spending 3.2 million on #4 dmen and 4million on #5

by historywillbemade on Jul 1, 2010 1:41 PM EDT up reply actions  

def. Everyone is finding jobs, but the two biggest names. Nabakov and Turco had offers, turned them down, and now have to play the waiting game.

by Dozer3677 on Jul 1, 2010 1:37 PM EDT reply actions  

Agreed.

After today, I think a LOT of trades will be occurring…

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by Orange and Black Forever on Jul 1, 2010 1:38 PM EDT up reply actions  

Lot’s of posts about the Flyers jumping the gun with Leights concerning this but I wonder if it says something more about the value of Turco and Nabby both in terms of their potential next season and what they are asking for as far as a price tag..

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by PatterPoet95 on Jul 1, 2010 1:51 PM EDT up reply actions  

They are asking too much, but we did jump the gun on Leighton too!

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by Prometheus74 on Jul 1, 2010 1:56 PM EDT up reply actions  

3 million cap hit for Armstrong to Toronto screw that

2 million cap hit for Nitty

by chrislanci on Jul 1, 2010 1:38 PM EDT reply actions  

so basically we jumped the gun on leighton

by phinally on Jul 1, 2010 1:38 PM EDT reply actions  

If Nitty gets two million I am fine with Leighton at 1.55

by chrislanci on Jul 1, 2010 1:40 PM EDT up reply actions  

yeah but the way it’s playing out we could’ve had an upgrade for relatively cap friendly deal but 7.2 tied up in #4 and #5 d kills that

by historywillbemade on Jul 1, 2010 1:45 PM EDT up reply actions  

TSNBobMcKenzie:
Sean O’Donnell is done in PHI on a one year deal.

by LegionofDoom on Jul 1, 2010 1:39 PM EDT reply actions  

he’s as old as jesus but he can still be our #6! upgrade over krajicek and the latvian wolf

by McNabbSoup on Jul 1, 2010 1:40 PM EDT up reply actions  

more importantly, who???

by halx on Jul 1, 2010 1:40 PM EDT up reply actions  

he’s been around forever. stay at home physical defenseman. safe bet. prob will see around 17 mins of ice time

by McNabbSoup on Jul 1, 2010 1:41 PM EDT up reply actions  

This is a D I can live with!

bread. butter. cheese. VICTORY!

by Prometheus74 on Jul 1, 2010 1:40 PM EDT up reply actions  

Agreed.

Still makes me think we’re not doing anything else in goal. We’re all about D-men at the moment…

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by Orange and Black Forever on Jul 1, 2010 1:44 PM EDT up reply actions  

One year deal is fine. He’s old though.

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by Travis Hughes on Jul 1, 2010 1:40 PM EDT up reply actions  

Old yes, but for a quality #6 dman, I like this move. The D is going to be pretty sick on paper right now.

by Dozer3677 on Jul 1, 2010 1:41 PM EDT up reply actions  

you’d hope to have killer defense if you are stuck with Leights in net. Homer jumped the gun but nabby and turco are looking dumb right now

by historywillbemade on Jul 1, 2010 1:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

$ for him?

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by TopShelfTony on Jul 1, 2010 1:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

can live with that

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by TopShelfTony on Jul 1, 2010 1:53 PM EDT up reply actions  

I’m hoping for vet minimum?

by ic0n67 on Jul 1, 2010 1:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

Sean O’Donnell is done in PHI on a one year deal

Where is he coming from again?

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by Orange and Black Forever on Jul 1, 2010 1:40 PM EDT reply actions  

LAK he is an oldie.

by chrislanci on Jul 1, 2010 1:41 PM EDT up reply actions  

With Kraji and the Latvian Wolf as backups…I like it.

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by EREX21 on Jul 1, 2010 1:41 PM EDT up reply actions  

Not re-signing Krajicek.

by Ben Feldman on Jul 1, 2010 1:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

My bad.

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by EREX21 on Jul 1, 2010 1:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

Did we keep Kraji? I must have missed that

by DragonGirl0583 on Jul 1, 2010 1:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

I remember now – thank you! :)

Yes, he is a blast from the past…wow.

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by Orange and Black Forever on Jul 1, 2010 1:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

I like this move. Solid number 6.

by edbro on Jul 1, 2010 1:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

Wow, the guy’s 38 years old though. True stay-at-home d-man, but with 1100 NHL games in how much is left???

by MaximumTalbot on Jul 1, 2010 1:44 PM EDT up reply actions  

Hopefully 82 plus the playoffs…

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by EREX21 on Jul 1, 2010 1:45 PM EDT up reply actions  

Surely he has a year left. Not going to be playing top-pair minutes, either.

by Ben Feldman on Jul 1, 2010 1:45 PM EDT up reply actions  

Check out his games played

Don’t know the $ involved but I love this for a 6th man.

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by boknows71 on Jul 1, 2010 1:48 PM EDT up reply actions  

apparently $1

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by TopShelfTony on Jul 1, 2010 1:53 PM EDT up reply actions  

I could get a double cheesburger with that salary!

by halx on Jul 1, 2010 1:54 PM EDT up reply actions  

6’-2" and 237 pounds at 38 years old … I though we were moving away from old defensive pylons …

by MaximumTalbot on Jul 1, 2010 1:48 PM EDT up reply actions  

…although I admit to not knowing him from Adam.

by MaximumTalbot on Jul 1, 2010 1:51 PM EDT up reply actions  

year in and year out he is healthy

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by Prometheus74 on Jul 1, 2010 1:50 PM EDT up reply actions  

Won't have to play big minutes either.

Every 5th and 6th D man we used last year was under 15 mins a game. Some well below. His numbers have always been above 18 mins.

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by boknows71 on Jul 1, 2010 1:53 PM EDT up reply actions  

Our D will be taller than the 76rs starters
…and A LOT better

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by Prometheus74 on Jul 1, 2010 1:43 PM EDT reply actions  

Our D might actually be better at basketball too

by halx on Jul 1, 2010 1:44 PM EDT up reply actions  

agreed. completely. They have a lot of physical guys back there. I like it. And Timmonen as the QB on the PP.

by Dozer3677 on Jul 1, 2010 1:45 PM EDT up reply actions  

I’d nominate us.

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by Orange and Black Forever on Jul 1, 2010 1:45 PM EDT up reply actions  

will need it with leights as starter. sad really bc it’s really a buyer’s market for goalies

by historywillbemade on Jul 1, 2010 1:45 PM EDT up reply actions  

It better damn well be

$23 million spent on defense alone … wow.

by MaximumTalbot on Jul 1, 2010 2:06 PM EDT up reply actions  

Nah Habs have that distinction

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by stubborne on Jul 1, 2010 1:46 PM EDT up reply actions  

iunno i’d take price over leights. Price is younger and has more potential

by historywillbemade on Jul 1, 2010 1:47 PM EDT up reply actions  

Younger yeah. Potential? Based on what, exactly?

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by stubborne on Jul 1, 2010 1:49 PM EDT up reply actions  

I’m starting to think we might be keeping Boosh now that we spent money on one more Dman than I expected…. unless there’s a salary dump coming

by DragonGirl0583 on Jul 1, 2010 1:48 PM EDT up reply actions  

The silver lining off Leights starting is that Boosh is still a Flyer.

by Snevik on Jul 1, 2010 1:49 PM EDT up reply actions   2 recs

yeah, this is Homer’s way of pulling the old bait and switch.

“Hey flyers fans, look at all these shiny new toys we have!”…“oh, that pile of rubbish in net…pay no attention to that…”

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by HockeyOutsiders on Jul 1, 2010 1:51 PM EDT up reply actions  

what number did this guy play as on the d in LA

by phinally on Jul 1, 2010 1:46 PM EDT reply actions  

#6

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by Prometheus74 on Jul 1, 2010 1:46 PM EDT up reply actions  

 2009-10 LA 78 3 12 15 14 70 0 0 0 0 1 44 .068

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by stubborne on Jul 1, 2010 1:47 PM EDT up reply actions  

I like the +14

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by stubborne on Jul 1, 2010 1:48 PM EDT up reply actions  

Is that what that is? Sorry, i haven’t taken binary since high school.

by halx on Jul 1, 2010 1:49 PM EDT up reply actions  

definitely a cut-n-paste FAIL

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by stubborne on Jul 1, 2010 1:50 PM EDT up reply actions  

So our goalies next season will be Leighton and Boosh?

So far.

by LegionofDoom on Jul 1, 2010 1:49 PM EDT reply actions  

which is sad b/c it seems like there’s better goalies out there sitting there with no deal done.

by historywillbemade on Jul 1, 2010 1:50 PM EDT up reply actions  

It will cost us either
Briere, or Carter

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by Prometheus74 on Jul 1, 2010 1:53 PM EDT up reply actions  

Carter then? I don’t see why Briere waives his NTC.

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by ronnybrook.blog on Jul 1, 2010 1:55 PM EDT up reply actions  

Manny Malhotra to Vancouver, 3 yrs / 7.5M no trade AAV 2.5.

And we thought Homer gave out bad NTCs.

by Ben Feldman on Jul 1, 2010 1:50 PM EDT reply actions  

Haha beat me just before I hit post

by DragonGirl0583 on Jul 1, 2010 1:51 PM EDT up reply actions  

Looks like Leighton will battle Backlund and Boucher for No. 1 job; O’Donnell got $1 million I am told

by Ben Feldman on Jul 1, 2010 1:51 PM EDT reply actions  

Ah, crap.

I love the Flyers so much I even went to Bobby Clarke Day Camp.

by billy_pilgrim on Jul 1, 2010 1:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

sticks head in sand and runs away. really homer? come on? do you hate goaltending that much?

by historywillbemade on Jul 1, 2010 1:53 PM EDT up reply actions  

McKenzie reporting there is also a bonus possible for the number of games played.

by Ben Feldman on Jul 1, 2010 1:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

wow, didn’t see that one coming

*rolls eyes

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by HockeyOutsiders on Jul 1, 2010 1:53 PM EDT up reply actions  

I’m so confused, are the Flyers hiding the fact that we have already signed Carcillo or Powe? If not, where the hell do we pull a RW from?

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by Psy09 on Jul 1, 2010 1:51 PM EDT reply actions  

Meet your new RW Jeff Carter. are carcilo and powe resigned yet?

by historywillbemade on Jul 1, 2010 1:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

not to my knowledge

by ic0n67 on Jul 1, 2010 1:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

Stupid. Carter is a winger. In my mind at least. I personally like him at RW, and not C. He should just play the wing, make this team better, and stop bitching.

by Dozer3677 on Jul 1, 2010 1:54 PM EDT up reply actions  

But he is our best center on the draw.

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by EREX21 on Jul 1, 2010 1:54 PM EDT up reply actions  

which is sad btw

by ic0n67 on Jul 1, 2010 1:55 PM EDT up reply actions  

If by “Jeff Carter” you mean “Claude Giroux”, yes.

by MaximumTalbot on Jul 1, 2010 1:53 PM EDT up reply actions  

They’ve been tendered qualifying offers, that is, I beleive, 10% more than their existing salary.

by MaximumTalbot on Jul 1, 2010 1:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah, I’ve heard that, but it’s just confusing. I know Carter will play top line RW, but who plays 3rd line without either of them?

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by Psy09 on Jul 1, 2010 1:53 PM EDT up reply actions  

Twitter
tpanotch:
The Flyers have to make a move somewhere. I am told they are still talking to Ellis’ camp …

by LegionofDoom on Jul 1, 2010 1:52 PM EDT reply actions  

If I’m Homer I’m also keeping in touch with Mason… certainly good deals to be had.

by Ben Feldman on Jul 1, 2010 1:53 PM EDT up reply actions  

With the latest signing where does that put us as far as cap space?

by LegionofDoom on Jul 1, 2010 1:54 PM EDT up reply actions  

With Cote and Bartulis, ~$1.677 million remaining according to CapGeek.

by Ben Feldman on Jul 1, 2010 1:56 PM EDT up reply actions  

well you won’t have to count Cote he is not going to count

by chrislanci on Jul 1, 2010 2:00 PM EDT up reply actions  

yep. I think i am going to laugh when I see what crappy salaries that nabby and turco have to take. they should have signed with the flyers now they are likely stuck in hockey hell

by historywillbemade on Jul 1, 2010 1:55 PM EDT up reply actions  

Some jersey scouting:

I assume Meszaros bumps Nodl from 14, but Coburn keeps the 6. O’Donnell would look nice in 2.

by Snevik on Jul 1, 2010 1:52 PM EDT reply actions  

NOOOOOo

Psychologically I do not want our oldest D man to wear that number. Too many bad memories.

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by boknows71 on Jul 1, 2010 1:54 PM EDT up reply actions  

How does one “look nice” in any specific number?

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by EREX21 on Jul 1, 2010 1:54 PM EDT up reply actions  

Nodl is 15, Lappy is 14.

by ohnickels on Jul 1, 2010 1:54 PM EDT up reply actions  

Wow, I fucked this all up. So, O’Donnell is fine, but Meszaros has to switch?

Travis, I think we found someone you can beat at the Numbers game….

by Snevik on Jul 1, 2010 1:57 PM EDT up reply actions  

hahaha.

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by Travis Hughes on Jul 1, 2010 2:04 PM EDT up reply actions  

maybe he means depth?

But in both cases he is very wrong

by halx on Jul 1, 2010 1:57 PM EDT up reply actions  

We’ll just file this under “Big swing and a miss,” please.

by Snevik on Jul 1, 2010 2:00 PM EDT up reply actions  

SHOCKER!!!

@Real_ESPNLeBrun: Phoenix Coyotes close to re-signing Derek Morris am told…

by ic0n67 on Jul 1, 2010 1:55 PM EDT reply actions  

kausatoday:
Thrashers trying to sign Dan Ellis

by LegionofDoom on Jul 1, 2010 1:55 PM EDT reply actions  

i just saw that so apparently no one wants to touch turco and nabby. those guys really overestimated the deals they’d get on the market

by historywillbemade on Jul 1, 2010 1:56 PM EDT up reply actions  

much like biron did lat offseason

by McNabbSoup on Jul 1, 2010 1:57 PM EDT up reply actions  

Ladies and Gentlemen, your 2010-11 Philadelphia Flyers

Assuming O’Donnell is signed, as is Powe and Carcillo for about their last year’s salaries, “you see what you get” according to Capgeek, with only $200 K left. Any other major moves require trades. Note that Nodl is not included, and we are 1 below the maximum active roster.

FORWARDS
Daniel Briere ($6.500m) / Mike Richards ($5.750m) / Simon Gagne ($5.250m)
Jeff Carter ($5.000m) / Scott Hartnell ($4.200m) / James Van Riemsdyk ($1.654m)
Ian Laperriere ($1.167m) / * Daniel Carcillo ($0.893m) / Claude Giroux ($0.822m)
Ville Leino ($0.800m) / Blair Betts ($0.700m) / Riley Cote ($0.550m)

  • Darroll Powe ($0.520m)
    DEFENSEMEN
    Kimmo Timonen ($6.333m) / Chris Pronger ($4.921m)
    Andrej Meszaros ($4.000m) / Matt Carle ($3.438m)
    Braydon Coburn ($3.200m) / * O’Donnell ($1.000m)
    Oskars Bartulis ($0.600m)
    GOALTENDERS
    Michael Leighton ($1.550m) / Brian Boucher ($0.925m)
    CAPGEEK.COM TOTALS
    (these totals are compiled using the bonus cushion)
    ROSTER: 22; CAP: $59.4m; PAYROLL: $59.773m; CAP ROOM: $0.265m BONUSES: $0.637m

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by Bud in TN on Jul 1, 2010 1:57 PM EDT reply actions  

Pannacio reported earlier that Gagne may be traded. I hope not. Id rather have him over Carter. At least I think I would.

by Dozer3677 on Jul 1, 2010 1:58 PM EDT up reply actions  

I don’t think they can rescind Powe’s offer sheet, so I would expect him there and (finally) waive Cote

by DragonGirl0583 on Jul 1, 2010 1:59 PM EDT up reply actions  

Nevermind! I missed that you had powe there

by DragonGirl0583 on Jul 1, 2010 2:00 PM EDT up reply actions  

I don;’t want them to. Powe is great.(well not great, but great for this team). Waive Cote. See ya.

by Dozer3677 on Jul 1, 2010 2:00 PM EDT up reply actions  

Agreed. This might allow for Nodl or someone else. But again, no other “major” moves without trades.

Two of the best nights of my life.,,,October 21, 1980 and October 29, 2008.
One of the weirdest...October 1, 1970. I kept part of one of the seats.

I was in college in Boston in 1974 and when Clarke scored the OT goal in game 2 I knew that the Flyers would win the Cup since they would never lose at home.

by Bud in TN on Jul 1, 2010 2:00 PM EDT up reply actions  

They can rescind an qualifying offer and the player becomes a UFA. And Cote would just be buried in the minors if anything

by ic0n67 on Jul 1, 2010 2:01 PM EDT up reply actions  

I just thought they would have had to do it already, I didn’t think they could do it with this timing since RFA’s aren’t even allowed to accept them until July 1st

by DragonGirl0583 on Jul 1, 2010 2:02 PM EDT up reply actions  

Note: This assumes Backlund or Boosh as backup with other in AHL

With all 3 up this equals 23, but exceeds the cap. Their salaries are close.

Two of the best nights of my life.,,,October 21, 1980 and October 29, 2008.
One of the weirdest...October 1, 1970. I kept part of one of the seats.

I was in college in Boston in 1974 and when Clarke scored the OT goal in game 2 I knew that the Flyers would win the Cup since they would never lose at home.

by Bud in TN on Jul 1, 2010 1:59 PM EDT up reply actions  

Powe and carcillo get an automatic 10% increase in their RFA offers I think. That leaves the Flyers with about enough money to buy a hot dog. A cheap one at that.

by MaximumTalbot on Jul 1, 2010 2:00 PM EDT up reply actions  

Slight adjustment

Penguinsfan is correct. This just reenforces the earlier comments from me and others.

FORWARDS
Daniel Briere ($6.500m) / Mike Richards ($5.750m) / Simon Gagne ($5.250m)
Jeff Carter ($5.000m) / Scott Hartnell ($4.200m) / James Van Riemsdyk ($1.654m)
Ian Laperriere ($1.167m) / * Daniel Carcillo ($0.973m) / Claude Giroux ($0.822m)
Ville Leino ($0.800m) / Blair Betts ($0.700m) / * Darroll Powe ($0.572m)
Riley Cote ($0.550m)
DEFENSEMEN
Kimmo Timonen ($6.333m) / Chris Pronger ($4.921m)
Andrej Meszaros ($4.000m) / Matt Carle ($3.438m)
Braydon Coburn ($3.200m) / * O’Donnell ($1.000m)
Oskars Bartulis ($0.600m)
GOALTENDERS
Michael Leighton ($1.550m) / Brian Boucher ($0.925m)
CAPGEEK.COM TOTALS
(these totals are compiled using the bonus cushion)
ROSTER: 22; CAP: $59.4m; PAYROLL: $59.905m; CAP ROOM: $0.133m BONUSES: $0.637m

Two of the best nights of my life.,,,October 21, 1980 and October 29, 2008.
One of the weirdest...October 1, 1970. I kept part of one of the seats.

I was in college in Boston in 1974 and when Clarke scored the OT goal in game 2 I knew that the Flyers would win the Cup since they would never lose at home.

by Bud in TN on Jul 1, 2010 2:06 PM EDT up reply actions  

How many teams are left looking for starting goaltending? The Flyers are by far the most attractive option at this point.

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by Travis Hughes on Jul 1, 2010 1:57 PM EDT reply actions  

yep Nabby for 800 K come on down fire your agent and get over it

by chrislanci on Jul 1, 2010 1:58 PM EDT up reply actions  

Right. And I think if you’re Homer, you know agents are no longer looking at you as desperate for a starter…

by Ben Feldman on Jul 1, 2010 1:59 PM EDT up reply actions  

TB is the only other as far as I know. Unless Montreal pulls a fast one.

by Dozer3677 on Jul 1, 2010 1:59 PM EDT up reply actions  

atlanta and tampa. both supposedly interested in mason and ellis. nabby and turco really seemed like they screwed themselves by not taking w/e flyers offered.

by historywillbemade on Jul 1, 2010 2:00 PM EDT up reply actions  

If they would have taken the offer the Flyers would never have had the chance to sign a 39 y/o Dman for a 1m and the world would be all kinds of muffed up.

by ic0n67 on Jul 1, 2010 2:03 PM EDT up reply actions  

any chance Washington decides to grad a Old Russian Goaltender?

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by Prometheus74 on Jul 1, 2010 2:01 PM EDT up reply actions  

perhaps but i’ve read they are content with varly and neuvirth while concentrating on second line center but with this market they can probably pull it off.

by historywillbemade on Jul 1, 2010 2:02 PM EDT up reply actions  

Good b/c that would really scare me if he landed there

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by Prometheus74 on Jul 1, 2010 2:04 PM EDT up reply actions  

Ellis to TB, acccording to Pannacio

by Dozer3677 on Jul 1, 2010 2:01 PM EDT reply actions  

But he’s reporting that through Eklund, so a grain of salt.

by Ben Feldman on Jul 1, 2010 2:02 PM EDT up reply actions  

if Ellis does go to TB that basically means that only Atlanta and hopefully the Flyers are left looking for starters. San Jose going for niitty really throws the market in the flyers favor but they need to clear cap room.

by historywillbemade on Jul 1, 2010 2:04 PM EDT up reply actions  

I don’t know if he really thinks Eklund is reputable or not.

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by Travis Hughes on Jul 1, 2010 2:05 PM EDT up reply actions  

He does write some stuff for HockeyBuzz (though it’s mainly just a paraphrase and link to his latest CSNPhilly article).

by Ben Feldman on Jul 1, 2010 2:06 PM EDT up reply actions  

he is right 3% of the time!

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by Prometheus74 on Jul 1, 2010 2:06 PM EDT up reply actions  

Maybe 4% of the time.

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by Travis Hughes on Jul 1, 2010 2:09 PM EDT up reply actions  

Even Sex Panther has a higher success rate than Eklund, and it smells like Bigfoot’s dick.

by Phalange on Jul 1, 2010 2:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

kausatoday:
If G Dan Ellis ends up in Tampa, where does that leave Chris Mason, Marty Turco and Evgeni Nabokov?

good question indeed.

by historywillbemade on Jul 1, 2010 2:05 PM EDT reply actions  

KHL, Vancouver, and KenTacoHut respectively

by ic0n67 on Jul 1, 2010 2:06 PM EDT up reply actions  

Vancouver isn’t going for a goalie they have Luongo and a backup in Schnieder.

by historywillbemade on Jul 1, 2010 2:08 PM EDT up reply actions  

it is just a guess … like Nabokov working fast food :)

by ic0n67 on Jul 1, 2010 2:09 PM EDT up reply actions  

Nabby has to be watching this and thinking I should have signed with the Flyers.

by historywillbemade on Jul 1, 2010 2:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

Maybe he will…

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by TopShelfTony on Jul 1, 2010 2:12 PM EDT up reply actions  

heh

You're living in a parallel universe. Do not attempt angle parking.

January 11, 1976

by TopShelfTony on Jul 1, 2010 2:16 PM EDT up reply actions  

Haha, Travis, I can’t imagine how you’re managing to keep up with this thread and posting articles at the same time, this is insane

by DragonGirl0583 on Jul 1, 2010 2:06 PM EDT reply actions  

I finished making lunch at like, 11:50. Haven’t had a chance to eat it yet.

:(

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by Travis Hughes on Jul 1, 2010 2:08 PM EDT up reply actions  

Looks as though Dan Ellis is heading to Tampa Bay. Chasing details.

From McKenzie.

by Ben Feldman on Jul 1, 2010 2:08 PM EDT reply actions  

Damn that Stevie Y is good.

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January 11, 1976

by TopShelfTony on Jul 1, 2010 2:09 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yep.

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by Travis Hughes on Jul 1, 2010 2:09 PM EDT up reply actions  

TSN defends paying 3 million per year for Colby Armstrong, Hartnell’s contract looks good in comparison. If a USA teams signed him at the number they would be complaining about how much he got overpaid.

by chrislanci on Jul 1, 2010 2:10 PM EDT reply actions  

yea, they’re not to happy about it over at PPP

by halx on Jul 1, 2010 2:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

Be fair, they never like anything.

Who said that?

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January 11, 1976

by TopShelfTony on Jul 1, 2010 2:13 PM EDT up reply actions  

Armstrong’s a good two-way player. Not gaudy numbers, but you’re paying for the fact that he’s well-rounded, like Richards.

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by The Dark on Jul 1, 2010 2:13 PM EDT up reply actions  

We’re almost at 850 comments, we might need a 2nd thread soon, sheesh

by DragonGirl0583 on Jul 1, 2010 2:11 PM EDT reply actions  

yeah, alot to keep up with.

by Dozer3677 on Jul 1, 2010 2:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah, I’m gonna change it shortly.

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by Travis Hughes on Jul 1, 2010 2:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

Its a shame no one keeps up after the playoffs

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by Prometheus74 on Jul 1, 2010 2:13 PM EDT up reply actions  

Rossi_on_Pens Pens believe its them and another team for Martin. They’re working hard to get him.

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January 11, 1976

by TopShelfTony on Jul 1, 2010 2:11 PM EDT reply actions  

GDI. They said they were in, then out, then back in. Now they are the favs. to sign him. A bittersweet day with the flyers moves and the pens moves. Argh…..

by Dozer3677 on Jul 1, 2010 2:13 PM EDT up reply actions  

The Non-Perfect Market World Now Takes Hold

I’ve been saying that Ellis would be overpaid (as was Leighton) because he is the (unfairly) fair-haired child in this environment. We now will see.

Note: this is why Biron signed cheap. He has been through the non-perfect market before.

Two of the best nights of my life.,,,October 21, 1980 and October 29, 2008.
One of the weirdest...October 1, 1970. I kept part of one of the seats.

I was in college in Boston in 1974 and when Clarke scored the OT goal in game 2 I knew that the Flyers would win the Cup since they would never lose at home.

by Bud in TN on Jul 1, 2010 2:11 PM EDT reply actions  

He wanted a place to be for the next couple yrs. After last yr, he didn’t want to wait. Smart move.

by Dozer3677 on Jul 1, 2010 2:12 PM EDT up reply actions  

What did he sign for?

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by TopShelfTony on Jul 1, 2010 2:13 PM EDT up reply actions  

2 yrs, at about 900k a yr.

by Dozer3677 on Jul 1, 2010 2:16 PM EDT up reply actions  

Damn that Stevie Y is good.

You're living in a parallel universe. Do not attempt angle parking.

January 11, 1976

by TopShelfTony on Jul 1, 2010 2:18 PM EDT up reply actions  

REALLY 900K????????

Then we REALLY overpaid for Leighton!!!!

Two of the best nights of my life.,,,October 21, 1980 and October 29, 2008.
One of the weirdest...October 1, 1970. I kept part of one of the seats.

I was in college in Boston in 1974 and when Clarke scored the OT goal in game 2 I knew that the Flyers would win the Cup since they would never lose at home.

by Bud in TN on Jul 1, 2010 2:20 PM EDT up reply actions  

From Sharks GM Doug Wilson via text message regarding Niitty: ``He is the guy we wanted." so that means that Tampa and San Jose are done on the goalie front. Only Atlanta and hopefully Philly left

by historywillbemade on Jul 1, 2010 2:12 PM EDT reply actions  

Biggest shocker so far? Malhotra for 3/7.5, Biron being the first goalie to go, or Rathje still on the board 2 hours into FA … DEBATE!

by ic0n67 on Jul 1, 2010 2:13 PM EDT reply actions  

I’d say San Jose going for Niitty

by historywillbemade on Jul 1, 2010 2:13 PM EDT up reply actions  

I am still shocked Armstrong got a 3 million that is over $100,000 per point.

by chrislanci on Jul 1, 2010 2:14 PM EDT up reply actions  

That is Breire level money there

by ic0n67 on Jul 1, 2010 2:15 PM EDT up reply actions  

Briere was better value per point. That is close to Ovi money per point and maybe Gomez money but not as bad as Drury.

by chrislanci on Jul 1, 2010 2:17 PM EDT up reply actions  

Twitter
tpanotch:
Good guy Brian Boucher could be waived , too to cut $$ but there’s lots of possibilities here

flyers still making moves?

by historywillbemade on Jul 1, 2010 2:14 PM EDT reply actions  

The cap situation suggests they’re probably not done.

by Ben Feldman on Jul 1, 2010 2:14 PM EDT up reply actions  

If they can be over the cap till August, I don’t think they would need to waive him now, right?

by Phalange on Jul 1, 2010 2:15 PM EDT up reply actions  

true, have until the end of aug. to clear the cap.

by Dozer3677 on Jul 1, 2010 2:17 PM EDT up reply actions  

He is trying really hard to prove himself right with someone significant will be traded.

by chrislanci on Jul 1, 2010 2:15 PM EDT up reply actions  

Immediately preceeding that he talked about them moving 5M too, so who knows

by DragonGirl0583 on Jul 1, 2010 2:15 PM EDT up reply actions  

There goes my silver lining for today.

by Snevik on Jul 1, 2010 2:15 PM EDT up reply actions  

Touch of grey

bread. butter. cheese. VICTORY!

by Prometheus74 on Jul 1, 2010 2:16 PM EDT up reply actions  

wyshynski:
Only reason Phoenix keeps signing Derek Morris: Hoping one day his son Zack shows up with that giant cell phone and g/f Kelly.

by ic0n67 on Jul 1, 2010 2:16 PM EDT reply actions  

TSNBobMcKenzie:
Jody Shelley to PHI on a three year deal worth $1.1M per year.

by edbro on Jul 1, 2010 2:16 PM EDT reply actions  

Bye Riley.

You're living in a parallel universe. Do not attempt angle parking.

January 11, 1976

by TopShelfTony on Jul 1, 2010 2:17 PM EDT up reply actions  

Or Carcillo…

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by Travis Hughes on Jul 1, 2010 2:18 PM EDT up reply actions  

Ye Gods I hope not. Carcillo has much better skills than Shelley. He’s an older Cote – why the hell would we sign him???

by MaximumTalbot on Jul 1, 2010 2:19 PM EDT up reply actions  

Carcillo stays I bet/hope. At least for now. Never knew what Riley had on Homer to stay this long. Can’t keep them all. I like RC.

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January 11, 1976

by TopShelfTony on Jul 1, 2010 2:19 PM EDT up reply actions  

Shelley is such a f*ck tard. I would much rather have Carcillo.

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by EREX21 on Jul 1, 2010 2:19 PM EDT up reply actions  

WTF?

TSNBobMcKenzie
  
Jody Shelley to PHI on a three year deal worth $1.1M per year.

by DragonGirl0583 on Jul 1, 2010 2:16 PM EDT reply actions  

Say whhaaaaaaaaaaattt?

by Phalange on Jul 1, 2010 2:17 PM EDT up reply actions  

TheFourthPeriod:
Told by one exec… nabokov may have to lower price tag if he wants to sign soon

no sh$t. we knew this days ago. nabby is looking really dumb for turning down the flyers

by historywillbemade on Jul 1, 2010 2:16 PM EDT reply actions  

Without him

There was no shootout.

"Call me dumb, call me stupid, whatever. I block shots."

by boknows71 on Jul 1, 2010 2:17 PM EDT up reply actions  

Can he play goal?

I love the Flyers so much I even went to Bobby Clarke Day Camp.

by billy_pilgrim on Jul 1, 2010 2:19 PM EDT up reply actions  

that means goodbye carcillo too doesnt it?

by Derek F on Jul 1, 2010 2:17 PM EDT reply actions  

What the hell is this? Jody Shelley? I know he almost single-handedly won those last two regular season games for the Rangers, but really?

by Ben Feldman on Jul 1, 2010 2:17 PM EDT reply actions  

I don’t mind him, but not at 1.1 per year. That is stupid.

by edbro on Jul 1, 2010 2:18 PM EDT up reply actions  

actually it’s 3 years 1.1 total

by historywillbemade on Jul 1, 2010 2:18 PM EDT up reply actions  

That’s well below the league minimum though.

by Ben Feldman on Jul 1, 2010 2:19 PM EDT up reply actions  

Twitter
TSNBobMcKenzie:
Jody Shelley to PHI on a three year deal worth $1.1M per year.

by Dozer3677 on Jul 1, 2010 2:19 PM EDT up reply actions  

I read

TSNBobMcKenzie:
Jody Shelley to PHI on a three year deal worth $1.1M per year.

by edbro on Jul 1, 2010 2:19 PM EDT up reply actions  

Capgeek says $1.1 PER YEAR. For that money, I’d rather have Carcillo.

by MaximumTalbot on Jul 1, 2010 2:23 PM EDT up reply actions  

agreed. Would have rather given the money to Carcillo. (But rather have given that money to neither of them).

by Dozer3677 on Jul 1, 2010 2:19 PM EDT up reply actions  

If we were going to swipe a FA winger from the Rags, couldn’t it have at least been Prospal?

by DragonGirl0583 on Jul 1, 2010 2:19 PM EDT up reply actions  

wyshynski:
Signing goons. Goalie mess. Ah, Philly, never change. RT @TSNBobMcKenzie Jody Shelley to PHI 3-year deal.

by historywillbemade on Jul 1, 2010 2:18 PM EDT reply actions  

f that. we better not have done this.

by phinally on Jul 1, 2010 2:18 PM EDT reply actions  

Records
Currently holds the all time record in penalty minutes (420) for the Halifax Mooseheads of the QMJHL.
Also, he currently holds the single season record for penalty minutes (357) for the Syracuse Crunch of the AHL
Holds single-game penalty minutes record for the San Jose Sharks. (41)

by Eric T. on Jul 1, 2010 2:19 PM EDT reply actions  

We got a fighter who can fight, first time since Brasher.

by chrislanci on Jul 1, 2010 2:20 PM EDT up reply actions  

Syracuse Crunch

Sounds tasty.

by Boog609 on Jul 1, 2010 2:21 PM EDT up reply actions  

capgeek:
Jody Shelley signing pretty much maxes out the #nhlfa #flyers cap space http://bit.ly/aoLmTx

by Dozer3677 on Jul 1, 2010 2:21 PM EDT reply actions  

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