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Flyers Prospect Camp Day 4: Bobrovsky and Dudas

Do not make eye contact.

Do not make eye contact.

Another uneventful practice, which makes me think it's me.  The only thing from practice is that Craig Berube is still intimidating, and I wasn't even the one being yelled at.

Plus, the one time we made eye contact, I froze.  Seriously, that guy is scary and I'm not afraid to admit it. 

Only three videos taken today, one of Riopel at practice, one of Bobrovsky at practice, and a shootout attempt by Dowling on Bobrovsky.  Check them out at the BroadStreetHockey YouTube page.

It's Sunday and it's nice out, so let's get straight to the bullet points.

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  • Jesse Dudas (D, Bloomington IHL/Corpus Christi CHL, tryout) had a really good game today, as he scored two goals.  Well, I think he did.  I didn't see a deflection, but he beat Phillips from the point with Dowling and Rinaldo creating traffic in front.
  • Oliver Lauridsen (D, St. Cloud State) had a pretty good game again today, using his body a lot more.  For a 7th round pick, he might turn into a decent player.  He was stopped by Stewart on a penalty shot.
  • Zac Rinaldo (C, London/Barrie) is crazy.  Seriously, the guy is slightly unhinged.  He reminds me a lot of Steve Downie as he is a great pest with tons of energy, but somethings amiss.  On the forecheck, he hit Banwell to force the turnover.  But then he failed to make the pass, got double teamed, then leveled by Banwell.  He didn't react well, as he jumped right up and started throwing punches.  Not 3 minutes later, he is alone at the side of the net, but can't deposit the puck into the open goal (he was likely off balance).  Bobrovsky stretched across and made a nice save, then Lauridsen came in and knocked him down.  Rinaldo again jumped right up, started talkin, and Lauridsen just started pounding on him.  I don't think many of his fellow prospects like him.

    But, Rinaldo is a pretty good hockey player.  Right now, he scares me.  If he can keep it under control, he would fit the Flyers mold very well.  Until then, I don't like him.
  • Michael Banwell (D, Maine, tryout) had another solid game, including the encounter with Rinaldo.  Afterwards, he saved a goal as the puck came out from behind the net and dribbled along the goal line.  
  • Sergei Bobrovsky (G, Novokuznetsk) was the star of the game as he made several key saves.  He let in a Dudas goal that might have deflected, but pinged off the crossbar through traffic.  Tough to fault him on that.  He looked a little shaky early, but he changed his blocker and glove from practice to the scrimmage.  At some point, he has to feel comfortable in his equipment.

    He stopped two penalty shots in overtime, then didn't allow a goal on five shootout attempts.  He stopped Pither, then made a nice stop on Kyle Mountain (C, New Hampshire, tryout) in OT.  In the shootout, he stopped Bourdon, Dowling, Chaput, Rinaldo, and McGinn.  Only Chaput put the puck wide.
  • Justin Dowling (C, Swift Current, tryout) again looked good, though not as good as yesterday. 
  • Shane Harper (RW, Everett/Adirondack) is an intriguing player.  He definitely has speed and skill, but he wasn't making very good decisions.  Almost an unpolished Darroll Powe, with more stick-handling skills.
  • Luke Pither (C, Barrie) is another player who has impressed.  He once again showed off his passing skills and great wrist shot.  In overtime, he had a penalty shot but put it right in Bobrovsky's chest.
  • Adam Morrison (G, Saskatoon) had a good day.  I've been down on him all week, but he had a pretty solid scrimmage.  Nothing spectacular, but he made a few solid saves and looked positionally sound.  He gave up a penalty shot goal to Phil Ginand (C, Mercyhurst College, tryout), his only blemish until Wellwood won the game in the shootout.

    In the shootout, Morrison stopped Holmstrom, Banwell, Rowe, and somebody I apparently forget before giving up the goal to Wellwood.  He had a really nice pokecheck on Banwell to prevent the goal, then got lucky as Rowe hit the post.
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  • Michael Chaput (C, Lewiston) The first time I've looked for him, I was marginally impressed.  He has decent vision and good passing skills, but he's still largely invisible.  Nothing good or bad to say about him, but for a 3rd round pick, that's probably not a great thing.  Either way, he has time.
  • Tye McGinn (LW, Gatineau) had a goal that was disallowed - not sure why - but once again had a fairly decent game.  He's visible but not impressive, which is something.
  • Eric Wellwood (LW, Windsor) had another solid game, culminating with a wrist shot he fired past Brian Stewart from the near boards.
  • Mike Testwuide (RW, Colorado College) is a guy a lot of people are curious about.  To be honest, he isn't exactly impressing me.  He's definitely good along the boards and he has a nose for the net, but I'm just not blown away by him.  He will likely be a top-6 forward in the AHL next year, but right now I don't see him competing for an NHL job.
  • Ben Holmstrom (C/RW, UMass-Lowell/Adirondack) rebounded from a terrible scrimmage Saturday to have a decidedly average day today.  Later, Stewart stopped him on a penalty shot.  He hasn't been very impressive so far, especially since he has a habit of shooting into the goalie's chest.
  • Chris Rawlings (G, Northeastern, tryout) didn't play in the scrimmage, but I took a picture of him in practice, so he gets a bullet.
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    The Orange Teamwon 3-2(SO) to even the series at 2.  Yes, this is a series.

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by Sakurafire on Jul 11, 2010 3:09 PM EDT reply actions  

haha, I’m sure he is. But he was in coach mode, the players weren’t doing what he wanted, and some guy is all alone in the corner watching him… eye contact in that situation is not something I wish to repeat.

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by Geoff Detweiler on Jul 11, 2010 3:16 PM EDT up reply actions  

next time look scarier than he does

if you can get him to wince, you can probably get hired by the organization

by Alon on Jul 11, 2010 3:48 PM EDT up reply actions  

Good to hear that Bob’s looking better. It’s always a bit disconcerting when a goalie comes over and looks a lot worse on American ice than he did on international ice, because you start worrying whether he can adjust.

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by The Dark on Jul 11, 2010 3:45 PM EDT reply actions  

Looking at your clips

Here’s my thoughts:

-Would be great if you could get more clips of the players.

-Bobrovsky looks awesome. Considering he’s playing with new equipment, the guy looks like a stud. Very smooth, amazing positioning and skating. His agility and up down butterfly is sick. AHL starter this year, and we’ll see, but he looks to me to be everything people have been saying he is.

-Eric Gustafsson looks like he’s got some great wheels. Kinda small for a D-Man but maybe potential to develop into a Kimmo type player?

-Chris Rawlings looks gigantic. No surprise at 6’5", but man, like half of his torso is above the cross bar. I don’t know how you work on that, but I gotta think he covers a lot of net. He looked a little uncomfortable though.

by Gizmoitus on Jul 11, 2010 4:03 PM EDT reply actions  

  • I would love to get more clips, but it’s hard to in the scrimmage. I get most of the video in practice, but the way the skaters go up and down, there wouldn’t be the "Rinaldo clip" it would be the "breakaway followed by a 2 on 1 followed by a 3 on 2 with entirely different players, none of whom are wearing nameplates" clip. It wouldn’t be very good. I wish, though.
  • Bobrovsky will be fighting Backlund and Riopel for two spots on the Phantoms, assuming Leighton/Boucher is the tandem. I think it’s safe to pencil Backlund in to the AHL starter spot, but Riopel and Bob are going to have a fierce camp. Expect both to play in the AHL at some point this year though.
  • Gustafsson is a guy I like a lot, but he makes too many mistakes. He has patience and composure, a pretty nice slap shot, and great defending skills, but he has to cut down on the turnovers. I usually see about two turnovers from him a day.
  • Rawlings is huge. I was impressed with him if for no other reason than there’s nowhere for the shooters to put the puck. He’s a tryout, but I’d honestly like the Flyers to keep tabs on him. He only played one year of college so far, so he has a long way to go. There’s no room for him in the pros, but if there was a way to make him Flyers property without signing him to an EL deal, I’d be all for it. At this point, he’s no worse than Morrison or Phillips.

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by Geoff Detweiler on Jul 11, 2010 4:32 PM EDT up reply actions  

Just from what I saw in those clips, I’d have to think that Bobrovsky will be backing up. Riopel looks solid, but Bobrovsky is something else, in terms of how he looks out there. I don’t envy the coaches having to make that decision, but considering their goalie development agenda, I gotta think they need to get Bobrovsky in there. What would that mean for Riopel?

As for Gustaffsson making mistakes — well it is camp. Turnovers for some guys in a camp, is more a sign of unfamiliarity so it’s hard to say if that’s a real problem. You have to play with the forwards enough to learn their tendencies, where they like to get the puck, their speed etc. Interesting to hear that he looks good defensively.

Rawlings was MVP of the British Columbia hockey league, so clearly he’s able to play the game. Another year or two at Northeastern should be interesting to see where he’s at. They have a good goalie development program there. Negative for the Flyers is that he’s on a lot of people’s radar simply due to his huge size.

by Gizmoitus on Jul 11, 2010 6:26 PM EDT up reply actions  

Something I completely forgot about until I read We Believe in Orange is that you can loan players to other AHL clubs. I remember the Flyers loaning Neil Little to Grand Rapids in order to have Boucher and Pelletier get playing time. Maybe they do that. No idea.

You’re right about Gustafsson, but it’s the turnovers that are preventing me from gushing about him. He’s good and I like him, I’m just not in love with him yet.

Rawlings… I wonder if someone will be willing to sign him to a pro contract this offseason or next. I’d probably take him over Adam Morrison at this point, but he’ll be an interesting guy to watch in the next few years.

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by Geoff Detweiler on Jul 11, 2010 6:46 PM EDT up reply actions  

I really disagree about Bobrovsky. He looked a lot stronger in the new clips. But the earlier clip with him taking shots from the two points, he either was uncomfortable in the new equipment, tired, lazy, or needs to work on getting in and out of the butterfly better. After the new clip, I’m leaning towards one of the first 3, but I haven’t been that overly impressed yet in order to bump him ahead of Riopel. It’s tough to take these clips in context though, since you really need to see the whole practice to get an idea where a player is mentally during a drill. But with all the clips so far, I have been most pleased with Riopel.

For the no name guys, I liked the short clips I saw of Stewart, quick legs.

by DLJr on Jul 12, 2010 8:21 AM EDT up reply actions  

Meh, I rewatched the clip (from 7/9), Geoff, was he tired at that point or at the end of his drills…it kind of looks like Bobs legs were just burned out. It also might be b/c I don’t like his stance when he is up too. Kid looks good, I just really like Riopel. But that might be work ethic of fitness showing through as opposed to true talent.

by DLJr on Jul 12, 2010 8:29 AM EDT up reply actions  

I’m not sure. He definitely looked tired in the clip though.

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by Geoff Detweiler on Jul 12, 2010 2:24 PM EDT up reply actions  

Riopel

What’s his contract status? I can’t see him on Capgeek.

It’s nice to know that Bob’s signed for a proper three year entry-level deal. If he keeps it up he might be able to crack the NHL roster within the time he’s on that contract.

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by PursuitOfLappyness on Jul 11, 2010 7:37 PM EDT reply actions  

Riopel is still not signed.

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by Geoff Detweiler on Jul 11, 2010 7:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

Testwuide

Very interesting that he’s creating a lot of buzz. I live right around the Skate Zone, and although I’m away on a vacation right now, my friend saw him walking in for his entrance physical. He saw him and immediately called me and told me he has the body of a player and he has a good “feeling” about him. I cant wait to watch him, and it would be really neat if he could break through the top six on the Phantoms. How is his name pronounced by the way?

by orangeandblack20 on Jul 11, 2010 7:46 PM EDT reply actions  

How is his name pronounced by the way?

Really good question.

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by Geoff Detweiler on Jul 11, 2010 7:53 PM EDT up reply actions  

Testwuide. Say it with me.
Testwuide. You got it now?
TESTWUIDE!

I hope this helps.

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by ToddtheFox on Jul 11, 2010 7:56 PM EDT up reply actions  

I think I read on Hockey’s Future that it is pronounced: TEST-weed

by memphisbrando on Jul 11, 2010 8:48 PM EDT up reply actions  

And so his middle name is Medical?

by Crosby sucks on Jul 11, 2010 9:14 PM EDT up reply actions  

Riopel = future goalie

Pilgrim: Be gone pest, and give me the Bird

Yakko: We'd love to but the FOX censors wouldn't allow it

by JpH89 on Jul 11, 2010 9:19 PM EDT up reply actions  

and Rinaldo = future downie

Pilgrim: Be gone pest, and give me the Bird

Yakko: We'd love to but the FOX censors wouldn't allow it

by JpH89 on Jul 11, 2010 9:20 PM EDT up reply actions  

After reading a few other SBN sites prospects recap, these guys don’t sound like anything special. Unless Geoff is ultra-pessimistic. At least the goalies seem decent.

The Phantoms are like the reverse Flyers; decent goaltenders without anything else in front of him.

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by ToddtheFox on Jul 11, 2010 9:20 PM EDT up reply actions  

haha, very true about the reverse Flyers. Part of the problem is that these guys are almost all 18-20, and the better Phantoms (Kalinski, Nodl, Laliberte, Legein, Lehtivuori, etc.) aren’t here. Most of those attending are no where near ready, but that doesn’t mean they won’t keep getting better. Basically I’m just watching and taking notes on what I notice. Whether a guy is in the right position at all times, I don’t really notice. You notice the hits, the goals, the turnovers, the steals, the stickhandling, and the shots. I’m sure players like Testwuide and Rinaldo are doing a lot of things the coaching staff wants them to do that I’m not seeing.

Also, I haven’t written much about Bourdon mainly because he’s head and shoulders above the rest of the players.

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by Geoff Detweiler on Jul 11, 2010 9:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

Next one I want an entirely positive post. Or maybe one good thing about every person to go with the easier to identify bad thing, even if it’s just “he has great hockey hair”.

 With all the Flyers doom and gloom it would be nice to have a nice feeling about the prospects (even if it is misleading).

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by ToddtheFox on Jul 11, 2010 9:45 PM EDT up reply actions  

haha, I think that’s a job for Travis. If he could ever get to a practice, that is. I mean, hell, he lives in Jersey.

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by Geoff Detweiler on Jul 11, 2010 10:29 PM EDT up reply actions  

People in the know tell me that Jersey smells.

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by ToddtheFox on Jul 11, 2010 10:37 PM EDT up reply actions  

haha

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by Geoff Detweiler on Jul 11, 2010 10:37 PM EDT up reply actions  

quit with the hahahing

and send the damn cheesesteaks!

June 30, 2010. We will rue this day.

by cliffkoroll on Jul 12, 2010 7:50 AM EDT up reply actions  

Ah, Jersey…you get in for free, but you have to pay to get out

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by The Dark on Jul 12, 2010 8:58 AM EDT up reply actions  

What? You mean Luuko isn’t ready to join the big club right out of high school????

What is going on with the Flyers scouting system?

by Gizmoitus on Jul 11, 2010 10:10 PM EDT up reply actions  

no

his dad is about to trade Carel and start him with Rronger. and hes gonna take the C off Richie next year too.

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by JpH89 on Jul 11, 2010 10:12 PM EDT up reply actions  

On a Serious Note

I actually do care if Luuko looks good on the ice. Being someone who no longer lives in Philadelphia but is almost within sight of Gutterson Fieldhouse (University of Vermont, where he’s commited for ‘11 I believe) I’ve got high hopes for him. So any news on the Luuko front is good news for me.

by 02h32m01s on Jul 11, 2010 11:02 PM EDT reply actions  

Just Curious

But um……………..where are the Cheesesteaks the Drunks on SCH won, when Kaner buried that puck in OT Game 6? I remember their being some sort of bet dealing with the STANLEY CUP.

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by Toews-makes-funny-faces on Jul 12, 2010 5:54 AM EDT reply actions  

hmmm

Sounds pretty typical for a Philadelphian. Still waiting for my bet to get paid up too.

by pnote on Jul 12, 2010 10:46 AM EDT up reply actions  

Hey Fellas

Prior to the Stanley Cup Finals you made a wager back in May with the good folks over at Second City Hockey. Italian Beef vs Philly Cheesesteak. The Finals ended a month ago and there’s still no sign of payment.

So what gives? Do you have any intention of paying or are you just hoping we forget all about the wager you made or that the Blackhawks beat the Flyers in 6 games? Cause that ain’t happening. The day of reckoning has arrived. It’s time to pay up.

by Skags on Jul 12, 2010 8:48 AM EDT reply actions  

Have you checked with Atlanta? I hear you’re having a problem with your stuff getting sent there sometimes.

by ohnickels on Jul 12, 2010 9:06 AM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

Well, feel free to fill it with Cheez Whiz and call it a cheesesteak, then.

by ohnickels on Jul 12, 2010 10:42 AM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

We'll fill that ole Cup with plenty of things, don't you worry

We could go back and forth all day and it would be fun I’m sure, but we already know how this ends. We’re just here to remind you that we won the Cup and you’re welching on a bet.

by Skags on Jul 12, 2010 11:54 AM EDT up reply actions  

We’ll fill that ole Cup with plenty of things, don’t you worry.

Can you fill it with a typed copy of a complete roster of NHL-caliber players signed for the upcoming season? (Oh, yeah – you probably could. You wouldn’t need to use much ink either.)

you’re welching on a bet

No, not true. The general readership here made no such bet. The bet was between the leadership of both blogs.

You’re also proving the claims of many from other lists before the SCF saying that your blog was full of passive-agressives – all of you posting here in the past 24 hours have proven that in spades. “Congratulations.”

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by Orange and Black Forever on Jul 12, 2010 12:10 PM EDT up reply actions  

Ahh well

Why do you guys keep going to the all your players are leaving card? Yes, there has been a tremendous fallout this offseason- that we all knew was coming. When I’m wearing my Chicago Blackhawk Stanley Cup Champion hat, t shirt, or jersey it sorta takes the sting away.

Would I have liked to see us stay together for a real shot at a dynasty? Absolutely. But thems the breaks. If this is what it costs to win the Stanley Cup, I’m willing to pay it. We assembled an allstar team and had a bunch of bad contracts that we had to let go, and the city of Chicago and her fans waited 49 years for a Championship. I’ll take the Championship. If we would have lost, I’d be out of mind. Because we won the FREAKING STANLEY CUP, this goes down much easier.

And we still have an awesome core group of players who have Stanley Cup winning experience. I’m just saying… it might look bad from the outside, but from where I’m sitting, yeah it sucks but we won the Cup. WE WON THE FREAKING STANLEY CUP- wow.

So anyway, they called off the dawgs. Have a great summer.

by Skags on Jul 13, 2010 12:58 AM EDT up reply actions  

The sad thing is that they had to “call off the dogs” for you to stop – weren’t all of you intelligent to figure out on your own that all this posting was idiotic?

Even worse, this behavior was suborned by those running your site – that’s downright embarrassing. Had any one of our bloglords here suggested such a strategy against another blog for any reason, I would have flamed them right here on our own blog for even suggesting it.

There were some intelligent posters from SCH who posted here during the SCF – unfortunately, many of those posters also chose to participate in the digital stupidity yesterday. I now don’t think very highly of any of you, and I know that very many here share that same opinion.

I hope it was worth it. You guys and your team could use all the positive karma you can get – you certainly didn’t earn any here.

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by Orange and Black Forever on Jul 13, 2010 4:03 AM EDT up reply actions  

The City of Chicago waited 12 years for a championship. People care about the Bears and Cubs; people watch the Hawks and Bulls when they win. Chicago is cold weather Miami.

by Snevik on Jul 13, 2010 12:00 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

Rec’d for utter truth.

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by flyrsfrk05 on Jul 13, 2010 12:35 PM EDT up reply actions  

The hawks were a bit of a different story … they were always popular until they stopped winning for a while. Also didn’t help that their owner would blackout their games to Chicago and thus couldn’t help capture the attention new fans to the team.

… and the White Sox did win the world series just 5 years ago … And they were left off your list … seems appropriate I guess

by ic0n67 on Jul 13, 2010 12:41 PM EDT up reply actions  

12 years? Where you getting that number?

Utter truth eh?

During the Dark Ages circa 1997-2006 when the Hawks franchise was flat out abused by an owner that cared more about the almighty dollar than the product on the ice or the fans in the seats, who refused to keep some all time great players in Indian Head sweaters like… Roenick, Chelios, Belfour, Savard, etc and refused to televise games, etc. that eventually led to them being named the worst franchise in professional sports in 2004 by Si and in 2006 by ESPN… we had some attendance issues, yeah.

Take out the darkest days of the franchise and we still averaged a higher attendance record than the Flyers during the 90’s, nary a championship to show for it.

Here are attendance averages over the past 20 ~ years.
 
1989-90 1990-91 1991-92 1992-93

17,546 17,920 17,509 17,776 Blackhawks
17,407 17,342 17,140 17,281 Flyers

1993-94 1994-95 1995-96 1996-97

17,771 20,818 20,391 19,397 Blackhawks
17,231 17,160 17,345 19,311 Flyers

1997-98 1998-99 1999-00 2000-01

18,356 17,330 16,274 14,997 Blackhawks
19,519 19,612 19,141 19,576 Flyers

2001-02 2002-03 2003-04 2005-06

15,569 14,795 13,253 13,318 Hawks
19,569 19,325 19,375 19,653 Flyers

2006-07 2007-08 2008-09 2009-10

12,727 16,814 22,247 21,356 Hawks
19,282 19,556 19,545 19,535 Flyers

And over the past two years we set the hockey world on fire. Rocky Wertz saved the Blackhawks by showing the fans his commitment to winning and returning glory to the once proud sweater. Rocky restored our faith and gave us reason to cheer. We responded by setting all-time NHL attendance records and setting all time Finals TV ratings… and just try getting a ticket next season.

Sure it’s quite natural for teams to pick up band wagon fans when they win; this isn’t unique to the Hawks. But a lot of the fans cheering for the Hawks now have been starved for this moment, waiting… praying… hoping for change. That’s why we’re setting attendance records. We cursed Dollar Bill and longed to see the day when the Hawks could return to glory. So to say that we only cheer for the Hawks when they win is natural for someone oblivious to history, but extremely short-sided and really uninformed, considering all we endured.

It’s safe to say that my all -time favorite Blackhawk memory going to the 3rd of the last game in the Old Chicago Stadium was miraculously replaced when Kane slipped that wrister into the padding. To us Hawks fans that have been waiting for this moment, quite literally a lifetime, it seems almost surreal. Even now. Say what want…

We. Are. Back.

by Skags on Jul 13, 2010 1:18 PM EDT up reply actions  

And if you hadn’t gone out of your way to create ill will here, perhaps we would be happy for you. Until yesterday, I didn’t realize that the term “sore winner” had any meaning – I guess it does now.

I’m actually happy that you ended your streak at 49 years – that means the longest streak of futility still belongs to the Rangers (54 years – 1940 to 1994).

So, go enjoy your title, preferably, on your own blog.

Going forward, I bet we win one before you do again.

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by Orange and Black Forever on Jul 13, 2010 1:37 PM EDT up reply actions  

Fair enough

I… We totally deserved that.

Good luck dude. I sincerely hope you get to experience watching your team hoist that sucker sometime in your life. It’s even better than you think.

by Skags on Jul 13, 2010 1:44 PM EDT up reply actions  

I actually remember both of our titles from the 70’s – they were great. :)

I also feel as confident with our core players now as I did back in the mid-to-late 80’s when we ought to have won a Cup. I’m predicting 1-to-3 years for us to finally end our wait.

Enjoy the feeling while you can – despite falling short, I loved our playoff run this year. It was quite a pleasant and most unexpected surprise.

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by Orange and Black Forever on Jul 13, 2010 1:58 PM EDT up reply actions  

The number is from the Bulls championship in 98. Regardless of the history of the team, no one was sitting around waiting for a Blackhawks championship five years ago. Chicago likes this team because they win, not because they play hockey.

And a city of Chicago’s size is not going to have trouble filling that stadium. The analog to the Flyers is pointless. We have consistently filled to capacity; that jump in 96 is when the new building opened.

Of course there are fans that have stuck through the Blackhawks lean years. Whether you are one of those or not, I really don’t care. But that statement doesn’t hold true about “the City of Chicago”; Lincoln Park only learned of the game three years ago.

by Snevik on Jul 13, 2010 1:46 PM EDT up reply actions  

Ya, no one cares. STFU and go away . . .

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by flyrsfrk05 on Jul 13, 2010 5:22 PM EDT up reply actions  

Your numbers comparison is totally flawed.

This is a poor comparison, please check the % capacity numbers instead of whole numbers. I’m not attacking your fanbase, just correcting your point of comparison.

The Flyers played in the Spectrum until 1996, when they moved to what is now Wells Fargo. It’s capacity is listed at 17,380 (just as the madhouses capacity was only officially 17,317 not including standing room). The whole using the official capacity is tricky, b/c Chicago has standing room tickets they sell that aren’t included in the official capacity number, so I just wanted to make note of that. I also want to note that the total is not an average of a %, but the total average attendance divided by the total capacity summed for each year. If you break it down by year, using your average attendance numbers:

Year: Flyers, Blackhawks
1989: 100.2%, 101.3%
1990: 99.8%, 103.5%
1991: 98.6%, 101.1%
1992: 99.4%, 102.7%
1993: 99.1%, 102.6%
1994: 98.7%, 105.6%
1995: 99.8%, 103.4%
1996: 98.8%, 98.4%
1997: 99.9%, 93.1%
1998: 100.4%, 87.9%
1999: 98.0%, 82.5%
2000: 100.2%, 76.1%
2001: 100.2%, 79.0%
2002: 98.9%, 75.0%
2003: 99.2%, 67.2%
2005: 100.6%, 67.5%
2006: 98.7%, 64.5%
2007: 100.1%, 85.3%
2008: 100.0%, 112.8%
2009: 100.0%, 108.3%
Total: 99.5%, 90.5%

by DLJr on Jul 14, 2010 10:37 AM EDT up reply actions  

OK

But the point still stands.

Holla for doing research!

by Skags on Jul 14, 2010 2:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

Maybe you guys should send an e-mail about this?

Instead of, you know, flooding unrelated topic threads with inquests about food.

by Phalange on Jul 12, 2010 9:59 AM EDT up reply actions   2 recs

Travis seems to be ignoring emails on the subject

Hence the use of the public forum.

Go jump in Toews Lake.

by shinkicker on Jul 12, 2010 10:35 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

Missing the point

It’s not about the food, it’s about your honor.

by Skags on Jul 12, 2010 11:55 AM EDT up reply actions  

Our honor?

It has nothing to do with us. The bloglords are the ones in this and I think they’re all adult enough to settle it without our “help”.

"Tortorella’s got it all wrong ... Gaborik shouldn’t be messing with our skilled player." -Peter Luukko

by doubleh on Jul 12, 2010 12:08 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

Guys, I think they’re serious. It’s up to us to end this famine in Chicago, and save the lives of our compatriots at Second City Hockey. We can do it!

Honor is no substitute for victory.

by The Dark on Jul 12, 2010 9:58 AM EDT up reply actions  

I had a really delicious cheesesteak for dinner last night, and now I just feel guilty. Think of all the Hawks fans I could have fed! D:

by ohnickels on Jul 12, 2010 10:13 AM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

Out of curiousity did we win a series of some sort? Perhaps a subsequent bet?

Pay up. Pay up. Pay up. Pay up. Pay up. Pay up. Pay up. Pay up. Pay up. Pay up. Pay up. Pay up. Pay up. Pay up. Pay up. Pay up. Pay up. Pay up. Pay up. Pay up. Pay up. Pay up. Pay up. Pay up. Pay up. Pay up. Pay up. Pay up. Pay up. Pay up. Pay up. Pay up. Pay up. Pay up. Pay up. Pay up. Pay up. Pay up. Pay up. Pay up. Pay up. Pay up. Pay up. Pay up. Pay up. Pay up. Pay up. Pay up. Pay up. Pay up. Pay up. Pay up. Pay up. Pay up. Pay up. Pay up.

CHICAGO BLACKHAWKS-2010 STANLEY CUP CHAMPIONS!

by elpjuly4 on Jul 12, 2010 10:45 AM EDT via mobile reply actions  

Here’s the thing. The way this is fun is you guys say, “Haha, we won the Stanley Cup, give us our cheesesteaks!” and then we say, “Oh, what’s that? I couldn’t hear you over the sound of all your players getting traded away,” and so on. Copy+paste entertains no one.

by ohnickels on Jul 12, 2010 11:15 AM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

You know what would make watching the Chicago Prospect Camp better?

Those damn cheese steaks you owe Second City Hockey.

….and we checked with Atlanta and Buff’s fatass did not take them

….and using Pronger’s “gamemanship” excuse about taking the cheese steaks before they got to Sam

……and trololololololololo

angry bird is angry .

by Da'Ostrich on Jul 12, 2010 11:11 AM EDT reply actions  

….and we checked with Atlanta and Buff’s fatass did not take them

He ate them before he left…

Honor is no substitute for victory.

by The Dark on Jul 12, 2010 11:54 AM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

In hindsight, we shouldn’t have told him they were chicken nuggets. Our bad.

by ohnickels on Jul 12, 2010 12:12 PM EDT up reply actions  

How many of you own the site? Does everyone who comments there get the food?

I guess my real question is: why should anyone but the six or seven people involved in the bet care/copy and paste incessantly?

by Snevik on Jul 12, 2010 12:11 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

Maybe it’s like the Green Bay Packers in that they all have general ownership? That’s all I’ve got.

"Tortorella’s got it all wrong ... Gaborik shouldn’t be messing with our skilled player." -Peter Luukko

by doubleh on Jul 12, 2010 12:32 PM EDT up reply actions  

THIS IS WHY WE CAN'T HAVE NICE THINGS!

GD Chicago fans just messing up the place.

"Tortorella’s got it all wrong ... Gaborik shouldn’t be messing with our skilled player." -Peter Luukko

by doubleh on Jul 12, 2010 11:20 AM EDT reply actions   1 recs

Then Send me

The cheesesteak im going to feed my dog.

For all you young hockey players out there...

by dumpnchase55 on Jul 12, 2010 12:48 PM EDT up reply actions  

That would probably be an improvement over the steady diet of peanut butter you feed him. They really will lick that stuff off of anywhere, won’t they?

by Phalange on Jul 12, 2010 12:50 PM EDT up reply actions  


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