Flyers Prospect Camp Final Day: Morrison and Bobrovsky Shine
In the last day of the Flyers 2010 Prospect Camp, the players jumped on the ice at 9:30 am for a scrimmage.
Surprisingly, there weren't that many people in attendance, which is sad since it was a pretty good game. As has been true all week, it was pretty sloppy, with missed passes, shaky goaltending, and missed penalty shots. Oh, and Zac Rinaldo dropped the gloves. Again.
Again, check out the BroadStreetHockey YouTube page for videos from the game. Rather than take videos from the opposite end of the ice, I got 10 of the 11 shootout attempts taken on Bobrovsky (I wasn't quick enough to get Bobrovsky stopping Chaput) and Morrison's final save to seal the game.
Yes, the Black Team won 4-4 (2-1 in shootout), taking the series 3 games to 2. Apparently the Curse of the Black Jerseys doesn't affect prospects.
Jump for the bullet points from the final day of camp.
- Nicola Riopel (G, Adirondack/Moncton) started in goal and once again turned in a solid performance. As evidenced throughout camp, he's a very sound goalie. Everything Tim McManus said about him is true - he's not the most talented goalie, but he takes a very serious approach and is positionally sound.
There are two concerns I have in regards to Riopel: 1) He needs to work on his rebounds some more. He does a decent job directing them away from the dangerous areas, but he typically gives up one or two juicy ones; and 2) He appears to be an emotional goalie. On a couple of occasions this week, he looked rattled after giving up a goal in practice. Then, during today's scrimmage, he got stuck behind the net with the puck resulting in a turnover which was soon deposited in the back of the net. Riopel protested to the ref, possibly arguing it wasn't in.
Today, he started the game with two huge saves from in close, then stopped a two-on-one after Hostetter got caught pinching. Later, he gave up one of his juicy rebounds but was able to slide across - still in the butterfly - to make the save.
- Michael Banwell (D, Maine, tryout) made a nice stop clearing the puck from the goal line after it came from behind the net.
- Tyler Hostetter (D, Erie) had an ill-conceived pinch which resulted in a two-on-one break the other way. It was a bad play, but for how often he pinches in the offensive zone - and does it well - these will happen.
- Erik Gustafsson (D, Northern Michigan/Adirondack) had another solid game, beating Rawlings on a penalty shot. The most impressive thing from him is his active stick, as he frequently breaks up plays with his reach. There's a little bit of Kimmo Timonen in his game, though he's nowhere near Timonen's skill yet. Combined with Bourdon, Marshall, and Lehtivuori, the Phantoms top-4 should be one of the best in the AHL next year.
- Chris Rawlings (G, Northeaster, tryout) had a shaky game, giving up three goals. One was on a penalty shot and another was a garbage goal by Ginand that went in through traffic that most people didn't see.
He's only played one year in college, plus he's on a tryout, so his performance was very interesting. He clearly has talent and he's huge, so he's someone to keep an eye on. Unfortunately, he'll probably be on a lot of teams' radar. - Ben Holmstrom (C/RW, UMass-Lowell/Adirondack) would definitely be one of the most disappointing players from camp. He obviously had a bad week, but he was one of the players I was excited to see. On a two-on-one break, he pulled a Jeff Carter: fire a slap shot high and wide from above the circle. Later, his missed high and wide on a penalty shot against Morrison, then had Morrison slam the door on him at the doorstep. He's also taken more than a couple penalties this week, which is probably only noticeable because he isn't scoring.
- Mike Testwuide (RW, Colorado College) is someone else who carries a lot of hype. While I wasn't very impressed with him, you can tell why he was highly coveted coming out of college. He's a big body, great in the corners, and has a nose for the net. His problem is stick-handling and finishing. Today, he made a nice move to get around the defenseman, then got hauled down going to the post. He missed the penalty shot, though.
- Eric Wellwood (LW, Windsor) is another of the players I was looking forward to seeing, and he was hot and cold. He had a couple great days, and then a few average days. The good news from today's average performance is that he let his talent shine. He made two great keeps at the line on pucks that were in the air.
Something else I noticed was that - for today at least - he was playing with Phil Ginand and Gregor Hanson, two players on a tryout. We'll get to Ginand later, but I'd have loved to see him playing with more talented players. - The Dowling-Chaput-Rinaldo line was simply outstanding all camp. The Rowe-Holmstrom-Testwuide line was a close second, largely pulled down by their inability to finish.
- Oliver Lauridsen (D, St. Cloud State) was pretty impressive. Today, he ripped a slap shot past Morrison from the top, ringing off the far post. For a 7th round pick, he could turn out to be a pretty solid AHL player. I'm not sure if he'll be able to hold a job in the NHL, but he seems to be a good character guy. All during camp, he was throwing his weight around and agitating forwards - Rinaldo, specifically. He probably spends another year in college, but after that he should get a chance on the Phantoms.
- Sergei Bobrovsky (G, Novokuznetsk) had a very good scrimmage despite a rough patch. He entered with a 3-2 lead that eventually grew to 4-2 before giving up two goals in his first 10 minutes of play. Neither was a soft goal though, as Chaput streaked through the slot and deposited one up high and the other was on a slap shot from Bourdon through a screen.
He showed his aggressiveness though as he challenged Chaput and smothered the puck and gets his name in the headline largely for stopping 9 of the 11 shooters he faced in the shootout.
- Zac Rinaldo (C, London/Barrie) has been a topic of conversation all week, largely because of his non-hockey skills. That's not to say he doesn't have any - he does, actually - but that's not what makes him interesting. Yet again today, he mixed it up.
On an icing call, Rinaldo skated down and ran into the defenseman after the whistle. It wasn't long after the whistle, but he wasn't going to get to the puck first and he didn't care. He just wanted to start something, which he most certainly did. After Testwuide came over and got in his face, you could hear Rinaldo yelling at him, "do something. Come on." Testwuide didn't react, but it's something that concerns me about Rinaldo.
Him and Lauridsen have been sparring all week, and you got the feeling they truly don't like each other. Except after the scrimmage, the two were talking to each other as if they were explaining themselves. Interesting sight. - Phil Ginand (C, Mercyhurst College) was largely invisible this week outside of being on the ice with Eric Wellwood, but today he caught my eye for the wrong reasons. During the 4-on-4 overtime, he was trying desperately to make something happen, but he refused to pass the puck. Gregor Hanson was not pleased since he was open on at least two occasions, only to watch Ginand skate into traffic and turn the puck over.
- After a 4-4 tie after two periods, there were no goals scored the rest of the way. Entering the shootout, this was an interesting picture to me:

- Adam Morrison (G, Saskatoon) gets preferential treatment at the bottom of the post for two reasons: 1) He was fantastic today; and 2) I had been down on him all week.
Throughout the week, he was less than impressive. Yesterday he was solid if unspectacular, but today he was very good. He only gave up one goal in his thirty minutes and it was on a Lauridsen slapshot that was unlikely to be stopped. He stopped Holmstrom on a penalty shot, then stopped him alone in front. During the shootout, he made several excellent saves, most notably on Testwuide and Rowe.
So, Adam, good job stepping up. I will stop bad mouthing you at least until I see you again during Training Camp.



Since there were only three goals scored by the twenty-two shooters, we'll just run down the list of players stopped by each goalie.
Morrison stopped: Wellwood, Ginand, Hanson, Testwuide, Hatcher, Rowe, Holmstrom, Ranford, Banwell, and Blidstrand after giving up a goal to Gustafsson in the first round.
Bobrovsky stopped: Chaput, Pither, Dowling, Dudas, Harper, Beattie, Rinaldo, Marshall, and Mountain in between goals by Bourdon and McGinn.
Go to the BroadStreetHockey YouTube page to see video of Bobrovsky's shootout and Morrison's save on Blidstrand.
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I love Zac Rinaldo’s fire, but I do agree that something about his fire is worrisome. He resembles Steve Downie so much, but I think he’s a little more disciplined than Downie in a sense that he doesn’t seem to take many stupid penalties. He just likes to fight. Which, I mean, is fine with me, as long as he’s not taking the extra two for instigation every time.
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by OrangeAndBlackk on Jul 12, 2010 3:57 PM EDT reply actions
And his skills are definitely there like you said. He just needs to channel his emotions a little better and I think he’d be an affective 3rd or 4th liner.
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by OrangeAndBlackk on Jul 12, 2010 3:59 PM EDT up reply actions
Definitely agree. Right now though, he worries me.
He can certainly turn into a very effective third-line winger though, since he has skills to go along with his crazy.
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by Geoff Detweiler on Jul 12, 2010 4:05 PM EDT up reply actions
sounds like all these guys suck
too bad the flyers need to be developing some talent for the future and it looks pretty grim….
by Elmo the faithful fan on Jul 12, 2010 6:30 PM EDT reply actions
A) Marshall and Burdon are two of the best defensive prospects in the whole NHL
B) Most of these guys are new this year. in fact, 72% of all the players were drafted 2009 or later
C) how can a guy with the name “Hatcher” be bad. if anything, that are future hall of famer.
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A) Marshall and Burdon are two of the best defensive prospects in the whole NHL
Don’t get ahead of yourself here. While Bourdon has been impessive and has a good chance to be an NHL one day, the same cannot necessarly be said about Marshall. Geoff and I had a bit of a discussion about this in the Flyers Prospect Camp Day 2 Roundup thread. So far, Geoff has said that Marshall has been less than impressive. While Tim McManus talks highly about him, from the articles I have read and the podcasts with McManus, it doesn’t seem like Marshall has really wowed and impressed and developed along the lines of what has been expected of him as a 2nd Rd Draft pick or like Bourdon has.
So, to say that Marshall is one of the best defensive prospects in the whole NHL really seems pretty outlandish at this point. Granted, Marshall is only 21 and has time to improve but, what I am saying is, don’t lock him in as a guarantee to be on the Flyers’ blueline yet. Hopefully he will be but, by the sounds of it, he has a long way to go.
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I understand that he hasent been as good this year. But the fact that, even with JVR and Giroux, that last year he was heads and shoulders above everyone else at the camp. And even tough he hasent been the offensive dynamo he was in years past (had a hat trick in one scrimmage last year), he still is the 2nd best defensive player, and the hardest hitter, in the camp this year. I dont see it as him having an awful camp, I see it as he set an extremely high bar after two amazing camps, and he just isnt there, talent wise yet, to keep raising it. i would go as far as, that on some defensively depleted teams (Wash, Edm, Mont) that both players would be in the starting 6 this year, abet a bad, but hugely potential, 5&6. Is he having a bad camp, no, I wouldnt say so, hes just not lighting up the scoreboard this year (1 goal that I know of) vs. his past two years.
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I barely noticed him this year, so to me it’s not a matter of previous high performances.
Now, I’m not an expert by any means, but that’s not my opinion of him.
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by Geoff Detweiler on Jul 12, 2010 9:23 PM EDT up reply actions
a good defenseman
doesnt get noticed, thats always been the way its been, IMO anyways. didnt know that changed.
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Typically, sure. But this isn’t supposed to be equal skill levels. Bourdon got noticed, Hostetter got noticed, Gustafsson got noticed. Marshall is supposed to be better than most if not everyone on the ice, but he wasn’t noticed. He’s supposed to be the offensive defenseman, and he was invisible.
If he’s invisible in the AHL, that’s probably just fine. Invisible in the NHL, probably very good. Invisible against 18 years olds and undrafted tryouts? Not okay.
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by Geoff Detweiler on Jul 12, 2010 10:07 PM EDT up reply actions
Understandable
but I cant explain the sudden drop off then. He was better when playing against better competition the past two years, now hes a man among boys, and hes average? Just doesnt seem right, especially a guy who, from scouting reports, is a work ethic, emotional leader. You said he missed a day right, maybe he has an injury of some sorts.
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I hope he is hurt (that sounds wrong) because that would explain a lot actually. But, Marshall hasn’t played since the Phantom’s season ended April 10th. Thats what, 3+ months where Marshall hasn’t been playing. So unless he hurt himself lifting weights or at the beginning of the rookie camp, he should be at full health, right?
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Yeah, he missed Friday – the day after the Trial on the Isle – and I have no idea why.
I’m not saying he suddenly became crappy, I’m just saying I wasn’t impressed with him at all this week. I’d bet there’s something to your points – injury or something – since even Andreas Nodl (2nd round pick) destroyed at rookie camp last year.
Plus, it’s not inconceivable that he’s just not as cocky as Bourdon. I don’t like using that word because of it’s negative connotations, but Bourdon is better than who he was playing against and he knows it. Maybe Marshall just kept making the easy pass or throwing it against the wall. Either way, I could never tell when he was on the ice.
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by Geoff Detweiler on Jul 12, 2010 10:52 PM EDT up reply actions
Invisible against 18 years olds and undrafted tryouts? Not okay.
Especailly considering that this is the rookie camp. Isn’t the inherent point to get noticed? How is Marshall expecting to make an impression on the Flyers coaches if, at the rookie camp, he is nothing special?
There is also a difference between not getting noticed in the good sense (a la Kimmo Timonen) and not getting noticed in the “meh” sense. The latter is the version of invisible that applies to Marshall so far.
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‘He’s supposed to be the offensive defenseman’
Isn’t Marshall the stay at home guy and Bourdon the more offensive guy?
I seem to recall an article on the flyers nhl site about their first year in the ahl and I specifically remember Bourdon being described as an offensive dman in junior who hadn’t yet found his scoring touch at the ahl level.
by TheFlyingWooly on Jul 12, 2010 10:51 PM EDT up reply actions
chrislanci thought this too, but I was going off of what Tim McManus said. Hockeysfuture disagrees with Tim and I while agreeing with you and chris. I’m assuming both HF and Tim saw a lot of him, so I don’t know who to believe any more.
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by Geoff Detweiler on Jul 12, 2010 10:54 PM EDT up reply actions
This is the aricle I was on about.
‘Marshall, a stay-at-home rearguard, has seen significant time in pivotal situations and is already regarded as one of the team’s better penalty-killers. Bourdon, more offensively-inclined, has been a regular power play performer.’
by TheFlyingWooly on Jul 12, 2010 11:00 PM EDT up reply actions
Interesting. I think that’s definitive proof.
Although, this will only confuse me more. I’ve convinced myself to think opposites (Bourdon sounds flashy: he’s not; Marshall sounds defensive: he’s not) so now, I’ll be all sorts of messed up.
Maybe that explains why I never noticed Marshall, but the article also says Marshall is more polished and more mature, which I didn’t see either… Oh well. We’ll see them in Training Camp.
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by Geoff Detweiler on Jul 12, 2010 11:07 PM EDT up reply actions
Just because the camp did not feature a star in the making does not mean there is no talent there. Some guys may need more development. Some may become 3rd/4th line forwards or 3rd-pairing defensemen. It does go to show you what happens when a team trades its last three 1st round draft choices, though.
by memphisbrando on Jul 12, 2010 6:52 PM EDT up reply actions
Some of the old pessimisim doesn’t do any harm! We’re renowned for it, just read the regular season game recaps again!
Briere, Betts and Pronger; Briere, Betts and Pronger; Briere, Betts and Pronger;
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by PursuitOfLappyness on Jul 13, 2010 2:12 AM EDT up reply actions
I just find it ironic that he is always saying negative things.
How can you be pessimistic when you got to dance with NPH like this?
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I think Draft picks are totally over-rated by most on the BSH. NHL is similar to the NBA if you are not picking top 10 you will be lucky to land a guy who makes your roster. The exception being that 2003 draft which was loaded but those drafts don’t come along often. Washington, Chicago and Pittsburg sucked for so long that they well able to improve through the draft but only because they were able to hit superstars with multiple picks Ovi and Backstrom, Malkin and Crosby, Kane and Toews. Many other teams have been just as dreadful but not as lucky with their top 5 picks. The Flyers aren’t in position to get top 5 guys so those picks in the late 20’s are not that valuable. When we sucked that one year that should not be name we lost the lottery and that guy we didn’t get just beat us for the cup in the Stanley Cup Finals and he is a RW on top of all that too. Draft picks are a mother fucker who needs them.
I agree, kind of
That draft picks aren’t going to be an immediate impact. But without draft picks, you can’t build your team. You will constantly have to makes trades or dip into free agency as you lose players to FA or retirement. If you don’t have players in your system, you don’t have replacements ready to take over. Draft picks are essential in a cap world to be a consistent contender. They allow a team to make better use of their cap space by filling needs through FA rather than building teams through FA. They might not be late 20’s picks, but Giroux went 22 and Richards went 24, if the Flyers traded those picks for some aging guy to help them win now at the time, the Flyers don’t make their cup run last year…just saying.
Uh....
Jeff Schultz: 27 overall
Mike Green: 29 overall
John Carlson (thanks guys!): 27 overall
Varlamov: 23 overall
Watch out for Marcus Johansson: 24 overall
Neuvirth, for good measure, was a 2nd round pick (remember those?).
It’s not entirely fair to say the Caps rebuilt with multiple superstar picks in the lottery. They have AO and Backstrom, and now Alzner (surely not a superstar at this stage, if ever) from the lottery. Most of their success has actually been from drafting in the late first round. Go ahead and continue to dismiss the value of draft picks, at any spot in any round, but that’s why The Hockey News had zero Flyers prospects in the top, what, 100? And had PHI ranked near the bottom, if not dead last, in prospect pool. Your day of cap reckoning is coming, and you’ll wish you had some cheap talent to fill in when it does.
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by Fehr and Balanced on Jul 13, 2010 6:34 PM EDT up reply actions
Ha. My bad guys. I just disagree that late first round picks aren’t worth a lot and that other picks can just be given away. There are Caps fans that argue to trade the firsts all the time because they are always late round picks. I think the drafts have gotten deep enough that no matter where you pick you should be able to get a solid NHL player, and the second round pick is basically like the first round used to be (about 50/50) without the obvious elite talent.
You can disclaim any single pick saying “what are the odds?” but in the big picture it doesn’t make sense to continue to give picks away.
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by Fehr and Balanced on Jul 13, 2010 9:40 PM EDT up reply actions
I agree with you about late first rounders. But none of the people you mentioned have much to do with the Caps rebuilding, or being good right now.
Especially Mike Green.
Are we talking regular season? Cos Mike Green drinks his MUSCLE MILK in the regular season.
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Simon Gagne, Mike Richards (that was 2003 though) and Claude Giroux were all drafted over 20. Even some of our other picks like Downie and Sbisa will turn out OK and were drafted at 29 and 19 respectively. Bourdon who we are all so excited about was drafted in the 3rd round. This year’s Calder winner? Tyler Myers, 12th. How about Cam Fowler and Brandon Gormley? Both bright futures, selected in the 10s. How about some other past Calder winners? Daniel Alfredsson, 133rd. Chris Drury, 72nd. Scott Gomez, 27th. There’s that Danny Briere guy who Phoenix selected at 24 too.
You can’t think only the top 10 picks in an NHL draft make NHL rosters. Otherwise only 100 true NHL calibre roster players would have come out of the last 10 years. That’s not gonna be enough for 30 teams.
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by PursuitOfLappyness on Jul 13, 2010 8:09 PM EDT up reply actions
Shut up with your good picks, eh.
Needless to say, I agree completely.
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by Fehr and Balanced on Jul 13, 2010 9:41 PM EDT up reply actions
Even with out the studs. You still need to draft well. Those players keep a team able to fill roster spots with inexpensive home grown talent. It’s just silly to say draft picks are over valued. They are critically important in the cap era, and even more important to teams who set self imposed caps.
Obviously, they don’t have immediate impacts unless they are top 10 picks (for the most part), but that doesn’t mean they aren’t valuable. The Phantoms are in terrible shape right now b/c the Flyers have not had the picks to draft well enough to keep the system producing players. I’m insanely jealous of the Caps farm system.
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by Orange and Black Forever on Jul 13, 2010 10:20 AM EDT reply actions
undoubtedly kicking and screaming the entire way the grim reaper was draggin’ him down to Tartarus
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Well played. :)
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by Orange and Black Forever on Jul 13, 2010 10:52 AM EDT up reply actions
No, that’s pretty good timing, actually. :)
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by Orange and Black Forever on Jul 13, 2010 12:30 PM EDT up reply actions
I saw that Rinaldo has been getting rough with the other prospects. At least he didn’t go beating on a guy that was 4 inches shorter, 30 pounds lighter, and had no interest in fighting. Oh, and dislocated the guy’s shoulder. This has got to win the award for dumbest stunt in prospect camp this summer.
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by Fehr and Balanced on Jul 13, 2010 6:37 PM EDT reply actions
haha, I saw that. Just brutal.
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by Geoff Detweiler on Jul 13, 2010 10:59 PM EDT up reply actions
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