i cried when the phillies won on the phone with my. and i fully admitted that to my friends and everyone who has me on gchat. did not care at all.

agreed. i think i was unclear with my issues with carcillo on the first line early. Right now it’s acceptable, but I just feel (given cap room) this team should keep it’s mind open about finding a better top line winger than Carcillo for the future seasons.

And that still might come in the form of a Carter trade, even after Gagne. If you can move Carter for two wingers that can play with Richie, especially if those two wingers are equal around Carter’s future, probably 6 mil salary, it’s dumb to keep tying so much cap space into so many individual players, this team just simply wont be able to stay balanced at all.

Something is going to have to give, even beyond Gagne. It’s gonna be have to be either Carter, Briere, or Hartnell. And i dont see the last two being anywhere near as moveable or netting the return Carter will.

But that’s for another time.

doubtfull

Gagne’s 5 mil – Quick’s 1.8 mil – Zerdev – Carcillo – Powe?

no room for any more wingers

Unfortunately, our only large contracts (>$2m) without NTCs are (in order) Carter, Pronger, Meszaros, Carle, and Coburn. If we’re going to drop salary, it will come from the defensive corps unless we move Gagne, since Carter’s apparently not in discussion right now. Of the four defensemen without NMCs, I’d prefer to deal Meszo, so that we have Pronger, Timonen, Carle, Coburn, O’Donnell, and Bartulis (plus anybody picked up) as the defense. He’s the second most expensive, and has the second longest contract. I like his potential, but he doesn’t fit into our current cap reality.

I only mentioned COL and ATL because teams MUST be within that $16m mark. If it wasn’t for the floor, I’d have been sticking with our usual suspects in LA and NAS. I’ve got no clue what will come out of those transitional teams, but they’ve got to add at least some salary.

Minor check on this. See below. If they figure out how to get rid of Hartnell, without trashing the team, I’m all ears.

but can we still keep his wife?

well he is young in goalie years (25) and goalies take longer to develop. He was a rookie, adjusting to playing in NA, and on a bad team splitting time with Giggy and Toskala. Toronto resigned with for 2 years at 1.35 million. Toronto is going to get rid of Kabarle and/ or Finger so don’t worry about their cap situation

For obvious reasons

Gustavsson and picks/ prospects?

i think we’re all accepting moving Gagne at this point, although to me the Gagne thing irriates me much more than Dawkins.

Gagne is moving because Homer failed to manage the cap right again. Everyone can hate the Eagles for not signing Dawkins. But the Broncos gave him 7 freakin years didnt they? No way in hell I’d want the Eagles to match that.

but i digress this isnt an eagles discussion forum.

The difference between Flyers fans and Rangers fans are while both fanbases are fans of their teams, Flyers fans are actual fans of the game of hockey itself and understand how it works.

That really was a great move. Mostly because … fuck the Pens.

i too doubt he does it unless they offer something ridiculous for gagne (it’s possible with sather at the helm). He shouldn’t shut them out of the conversation. He should listen to offers from them and then maybe use it to up the price from another team. The only way he trades gagne to rangers is if they are the only bidder (doubtful) or they offer something amazing that homer can’t turn down

why both? unless we are getting something amazing in return Quick plus Simmonds

the source is the Internets and the Internets never lie … the only thing I trust more than the Internets for an real unbiased reporting is Fox News

Regardless, it’s still interestink.

if that’s true i want more than Quick. As many people believe Hartnell isnt good, Hartnell proved just how good he is capable of being. We would need a winger back in return it’s bad enough we’re figuring that Carcillo will have to play 1st wing regularly and Shelley would have to play 4th line with Powe platooning with both to round out minutes.

If you lose both Gagne and Hartnell you absolutely need a winger in return.

Maybe LAK would actually try to spread this rumor to tell Kovie “you have a deadline”. Especially if some $$ are coming back, Gagne + Hartnell might be less than Kovie.

Maybe, just maybe, this is why Homer is doing what he is doing. if so, I take some of what I have been saying back. He becomes Machiavelli then, rolling the dice on LAK not signing Kovie, planning this.

I think if this is true, all kinds of parties could be headed both ways, with “Flyers West” as part of the deal, with LAK having cap space, stable ownership/management and revenue. Leighton, Carcillo, Meszaros going that way. Williams, Johnson, Parse, draft choices headed here. Maybe even add Carter going there, then add Brown coming here. Not saying the latter, but just saying that putting both Gagne and Hartnell together opens up the floodgates on all kinds of wild stuff.

I’m not a “fantasy” player, but if I were, I’d be salivating right now.

In all of our dreams.

Or Carcillo

agreed. i don’t want kovalchoke either. he is lazy on defense and not a team player and his salary expectations are beyond absurd ($100 million over 10 years, wtf are you smoking kovy)