Flyers Prospect Camp Day 1 Roundup
Today, the Flyers kicked off their Prospect Camp at the Skate Zone in Voorhees, New Jersey. They are scheduled to have 4 days of morning practice followed by a late-morning scrimmage in the next 5 days (tomorrow they are having their yearly Trial on the Isle), and we hope to get to as many as possible. All details can be found on the Flyers website.
These events are really fun to go to as only about 75 people were there for practices - split among the two rinks - and about 125 showed up for the scrimmage. If you get a chance, it's definitely worth attending.
While there, I was a nerd and took notes. Now, before giving you the notes, it's important to realize that this was the first practice in July for players who will either return to the minors or play small roles on the Phantoms. The only big names in attendance are Marc-Andre Bourdon, Kevin Marshall, Sergei Bobrovsky and Nicola Riopel, while the only other players who spent time in Adirondack last year are Shane Harper, Ben Holmstrom, Erik Gustafsson, and Brian Stewart, all of whom have signed since March of this year.
Again, both praise and criticism needs to be muted as this was just one practice, and the first one at that. Any conclusions based on the observations are premature until at least the end of the week.
My affinity for goalies is still going strong. I spent almost all of the practice time watching the rink that Nic Riopel, Sergei Bobrovsky, and Brian Stewart were on. Bobrovsky is wearing the same pads that Ray Emery wore this past year, with a Michael Leighton white helmet adorned with a Flyers sticker.

Now, Bobrovsky was rather disappointing today. In practice, most goalies stay standing to block the low shots in the beginning, but after both Riopel and Stewart started dropping into the butterfly, Bobrovsky kept getting beat low while still standing. Obviously, he wouldn't do that in a game, but it struck me as lazy.
When the team skated a lap before re-organizing, Bobrovsky reinforced my negative opinion of him as he glided along the ice. Just to be safe, I checked and saw the other two goalies moving their feet. Maybe Sergei was still tired, but not a good first impression.
It wasn't all bad for Sergei though, as he showed good lateral movement during the 2-on-1 drills. He stays tall when he is in the butterfly and looks very composed when going side to side. In the scrimmage, he showed some excellent puck-handling skills and he used them fairly often.
I think it's safe to say I'm officially on the Nic Riopel bandwagon. Now that De Serres is a free agent, Riopel is my favorite Flyers goalie prospect in North America. As a bonus, Riopel's helmet is pretty awesome, even if you can't see it. On top is a Flyers logo that morphs into a Phantoms logo.

Throughout the practice, Riopel looked good. He needs to work on rebounds off his pads and showing patience on breakaways, but everything Tim McManus said about him is true. While Bobrovsky looked lazy today, Riopel looked determined. He was taking the practice very seriously, evidenced by his perfect form in covering up the puck after making a save. During the two-on-one drills, Riopel wouldn't just make the save and move on, he'd cover up and put his head down as if he was waiting for a whistle only he heard. He was all business today, which is very encouraging.
Someone else who impressed during practice was Erik Gustafsson. The undrafted free agent signing showed good poise and an ability to break up one-on-one and two-on-one breaks. He even showed a physical side later in the one-on-one drill as he knocked someone off the puck, then took him into the boards after the rebound.
Quick hits:
- Free agent signee Andrew Rowe (LW, Michigan State) may have gotten lucky, but he showed a pretty wicked wrister as he roofed one in close.
- Brad Phillips (G, Notre Dame) seems to like the poke check, but he's not very good at it. He got beat one time "like he has Leights' five-hole". That was in my notes. During the scrimmage, I missed one of the two goals he gave up, but did see him come out and challenge the shooter on a two-on-one. He smothered it without giving up a rebound.
- Brian Stewart (G, Northern Michigan/Adirondack) did not have a good practice - though he did rebound during the scrimmage - which led me to call him "decidedly average" and an ECHL goalie.
- Marc-Andre Bourdon and Kevin Marshall will command much of the attention at this camp and for good reason. It's been a year since I've seen them play, and I must say Bourdon is far and away ahead of Marshall. He's confident, he's having fun, and he's making plays. In the scrimmage, he did some things that are probably bad habits (turning up the wall rather than going behind the net) going forward, but he has the confidence against the inferior competition to do it.
- Marshall, on the other hand, was rather disappointing. He
is supposed to be the offensive defenseman of the two and hecontinually mishandled the puck, got frustrated, and made mistakes. He doesn't have the same confidence that Bourdon has.
Moving on to the scrimmage, Riopel and Chris Rawlings (G, Northeastern, tryout) were the two goalies who did not participate. Stewart and Bobrovsky started and it wasn't long before Bobrovsky gave up a soft goal. Eric Wellwood (LW, Windsor OHL) got pick-pocketed and the puck wound up in the back of the net. Not a good start for Bobrovsky,
Wellwood rebounded from that miscue and showed some puck-handling skills, as he's good at navigating through traffic.
Zac Rinaldo (C, London/Barrie OHL) showed some strength as he bounced off a check and watched as the other guy went down.
Stewart showed poise as he stood tall through a screen and let the puck hit him before covering up. Not long after, though, Mike Testwuide used his size to create space for Ben Holmstrom to tie it up from the slot. Later, he sprawled out with the left pad to stop a min-breakaway.

The problem with Testwuide, though, is that he lacks puck-handling skills. While it's probably unfair to expect a big man (6'3", 210) to dangle, he more than once lost the puck while having a great scoring opportunity.


Oliver Lauridsen (D, St. Cloud State) is another big body (6'6", 220), but he isn't as flashy as the other two. He did get in on the action late though, as he laid out Bourdon. Instead, he buried an Adam Morrison rebound on the backhand to tie the game at 3.
The Black Team won 4-3 (SO) if anybody cares.

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Riopel-yay!!! Bobrovsky-nah!!!, no Joacim Erikson (g)?
by historywillbemade on Jul 7, 2010 4:42 PM EDT reply actions
Testwuide probably got nervous playing somewhere other then in a college league. I still have hope he can be that big man in the crease.
Like I said below, phila.bright really liked him today. He’s definitely big and you can see why he was signed, but you can also see why he wasn’t drafted.
But like you hinted at, it’s Day One.
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by Geoff Detweiler on Jul 7, 2010 4:57 PM EDT up reply actions
Other than encouraging news about Gustafsson, Riopel and Bourdon, this posting discouraged me about the Flyers’ prospects.
Well, that’s why I had the warning above. It was the first day of camp, they’re playing with guys they probably met for the first time yesterday, they haven’t skated in about 2 months, and most of these kids are going back to Juniors.
There are only going to be a handful of guys that impress, and most of them will have already played in the AHL.
Plus, I’m but one observer. Travis is thinking about going on Friday and phila.bright is posting updates on Twitter. Take all three observations together, since phila.bright liked Rinaldo, Testwuide and Wellwood. I liked Gustafsson, and Beattie.
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by Geoff Detweiler on Jul 7, 2010 4:56 PM EDT up reply actions
I’m just speculating, but it could be due to Bobrovsky’s pads that he looked lazy. He normally wears Reeboks like Leightons, but those pads look exactly like Emery’s. I don’t know how used they looked, but they might not be his own? Or at the very least, very new. Moving around in new pads is something that takes a while to get used to, so maybe that’s why he looked a bit like he didn’t care?
And Stewarts pads are awful
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I had no idea he wore Reeboks… Great catch. That would explain a lot, actually.
And yes, Stewart’s pads are awful. Phillips’ aren’t much better.
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by Geoff Detweiler on Jul 7, 2010 4:59 PM EDT up reply actions
From what I can find on Google Images, it looks like Reeboks or the newer Bauers

2007 Super Series in Canada (Junior I assume)
Brian Razors are a similar style but I get the feeling they have more breaks around the knees. I can’t think why he would be wearing Emery’s though.
PS. Name that Canadian Phantom!
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Legein?
Didn’t Marty Brodeur wear similar pads for a short while? But yeah, I can’t find updated pads either…
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by Geoff Detweiler on Jul 7, 2010 5:29 PM EDT up reply actions
Indeed. Pretty sweet photo really.
I think Brodeur has worn almost the same style for ages, he just gets new companies to clone the shape. Maybe he started wearing newer RBKs last season.
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Brodeur shrank his pads from last season and is with Sher-wood now. Funny because his pads seem to get smaller every year…
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Bob's Pads
He’s used both Bauer and Reebok. It looks like he used Bauer in his early career:

but had switched to Reebok by the time he joined Metallurg:

He also wore Reebok during the 2007 Super Series, but I can’t find any good pictures of that.
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Anyone here play goal...
I’ve heard some bad things about the Reebok leg pads. That the breaks are weird and that it’s tougher to control the rebound off of them (coming from guys that both played in Vaughns prior to the Reeboks. They did not have the top of the line pads, and I’m just kind of curious as a hockey player that always wish he tried playing goal at some point.
Geoff if my memory serves me correctly Marshall was the stay at home hard hitter and Bourdon was the offensive guy but as always I could be wrong. If you could double check that to be sure I would appreciate it.
Huh… Hockeysfuture seems to agree with you (“Bourdon needs to work on his technique in the defensive zone and his skating”; “Marshall is regarded as a hard-working, stay-at-home defenseman”) but I was going off of memory. I remember thinking (maybe Tim McManus said something that I confused?) that the guy you’d think was flashy (Bourdon) wasn’t and the guy you’d think was a stay-at-home guy (Marshall) also wasn’t.
But I’ve never been able to keep them straight.
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by Geoff Detweiler on Jul 7, 2010 5:26 PM EDT up reply actions
I’m goin saturday, anyone else?
Pilgrim: Be gone pest, and give me the Bird
Yakko: We'd love to but the FOX censors wouldn't allow it
I’m hoping to go every day, but things change.
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by Geoff Detweiler on Jul 7, 2010 5:53 PM EDT up reply actions
Can you guys report if Testwuide keeps playing on right wing and how well he does (I believe he is a natural center, but SBN lists him as a right wing and you mention his lack of puck handling). You mention that he looked interesting…I saw the youtube on him and though it was collegiate hockey, he made a couple of very sweet moves. If Testwuide has enough skill to play 3rd line wing at some point (which I doubt, but can always hope) then maybe some of our wing-free problems would be ameliorated.
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I thought he was playing LW today, but things changed a lot. I’ll keep an eye out on it.
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by Geoff Detweiler on Jul 7, 2010 7:49 PM EDT up reply actions
Yeah. I wasn’t really watching him, but when I noticed him he just looked big and unskilled. But that’s based off of like, 4 things I noticed. It’s tough to get the whole picture at the practice rink when you don’t know who’s on the ice just by looking at linemates.
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by Geoff Detweiler on Jul 7, 2010 7:53 PM EDT up reply actions
I hate you, just so you know haha
Pilgrim: Be gone pest, and give me the Bird
Yakko: We'd love to but the FOX censors wouldn't allow it
yeah, but the hat trick he had last year makes up for it. And yeah your broski said you guys were there.
Pilgrim: Be gone pest, and give me the Bird
Yakko: We'd love to but the FOX censors wouldn't allow it
and maybe carter won’t run off from autographs this year
Pilgrim: Be gone pest, and give me the Bird
Yakko: We'd love to but the FOX censors wouldn't allow it
haha i was looking for that a hole. i did see holmgren, lavvy and my boy D hatch. and im not bashing marshall, but he did have a shakey game and was pretty much solely responsible for a GA. haha hes got a beard and all so he looks like a man among children.
haha I forgot hatch was the player development coach.
Pilgrim: Be gone pest, and give me the Bird
Yakko: We'd love to but the FOX censors wouldn't allow it
also, marshall last year was above and byond the best player at the camp, even better the jvr. Surprised he was playing that way, but it could just be rust. At least mab looks good. Well need them both soon
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Yeah, it’s important not to shit on Marshall after a bad day. At the end of the week I’ll be ready to jump to conclusions.

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by Geoff Detweiler on Jul 7, 2010 5:54 PM EDT up reply actions
Good ‘Office Space’ reference. :)
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by Orange and Black Forever on Jul 7, 2010 6:09 PM EDT up reply actions
Attendance
I was there today and to say that 75 people in that rink for the practice portion is extremely exagerated. at one point it was just me, my brother, my friend, and two other people watching them do drills. It was significantly more crowded during the scrimmage (125 is a reach) but for the most part it was under 20 people during the practice. Lets get some more people!
I’m really bad at guestimating, but were you counting both rinks? The one on the right was extremely empty. The one on the left was pretty full.
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by Geoff Detweiler on Jul 7, 2010 7:50 PM EDT up reply actions
haha its all good. i was primarily in the one with bourdon and marshall and that was really empty (surprising). the other one was a little more crowded but i guess for opening day it wasnt too bad.
Yeah, I meandered over to the Marshall/Bourdon rink for the last 10 minutes or so and it was empty. I don’t know who I’ll watch on Friday, but if Riopel and Bobrovsky are paired together, I’ll likely stay with them.
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by Geoff Detweiler on Jul 7, 2010 7:54 PM EDT up reply actions
yeah i didnt see much of riopel but you sounded really impressed. Bobrovsky looked really average in the scrimmage today
Yeah, I was mostly impressed with his work ethic and focus. His skill really wasn’t all that much better, it’s just that he took the practice seriously.
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by Geoff Detweiler on Jul 7, 2010 8:39 PM EDT up reply actions
Wait, the team wearing black Flyers jerseys won? And it didn’t break the space-time continuum?
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haha, I know, right?
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by Geoff Detweiler on Jul 7, 2010 7:54 PM EDT up reply actions
That’s a great review, thanks!
I wouldn’t really take what happens today too serious. It was rough for me waking up Tuesday morning to get to work. These guys deserve some time off to relax after a long season, wouldn’t really worry too much if someone doesn’t look good on day one. I’d LOVE to make it there this weekend actually, but might not be around to make it. I’d imagine it’s a real fun time!
JVR
I know he’s got a year of NHL hockey under his bealt but couldn’t he use a little more development? I would have liked to seen him there today working with the other players in his age group. He needs to bulk up!
Beating up on 18 year olds isn’t how he gets better. Going to the gym is how he bulks up.
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by Geoff Detweiler on Jul 7, 2010 8:40 PM EDT up reply actions
im not suggesting beating him up or playing him against scrubs. today was just conditioning and drills. hes 18 how beat up can he get?
hes 21 brah
Pilgrim: Be gone pest, and give me the Bird
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yeah i know idk why i said 18 haha….. but giroux had at least three of these right? i just think the guy needs a lot of work. and its not like hes playing against these guys, hes just training with them.
your right in a way, but i think he can work on his conditioning in other ways too. and no, Giroux wasnt there last year (or I dont remember him there), so they each had two years there.
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There’s absolutely no point in putting JVR out there against Michael Banwell and Jason Beattie. He doesn’t get stronger, he doesn’t get better, and he doesn’t learn anything.
How does playing against undrafted college kids and late-round draft picks? The only player at camp drafted earlier than the 3rd round is Kevin Marshall. Playing the #2 overall pick against those guys proves absolutely nothing.
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by Geoff Detweiler on Jul 7, 2010 10:07 PM EDT up reply actions
They let star Thoroughbreds run against Scrubs in workouts to build up their confidence…. I’m just sayin’ haha
What you got against Secretariat at the Belmont Geoff?
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by Ed Van Chimp on Jul 7, 2010 10:17 PM EDT up reply actions
If I knew anything about horse racing, I’m sure I’d have a comeback, but for now:
Are you saying JVR is Secretariat?
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by Geoff Detweiler on Jul 7, 2010 10:34 PM EDT up reply actions
Compared to UFAs maybe. I’d go more with Bernardini for now, a horse with major potential and a great Breeding/pedigree/draft placement, but very short on experience who never ultimately lived up to his massive potential despite being an excellent horse in his own right.
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by Ed Van Chimp on Jul 7, 2010 10:45 PM EDT up reply actions
I think JVR is probably busy doing something like this:
Was that Powe in the video as well?
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by Ed Van Chimp on Jul 7, 2010 11:01 PM EDT up reply actions
Yeah
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by Geoff Detweiler on Jul 7, 2010 11:07 PM EDT up reply actions
That looked really intense, seems like Giroux’s heart and drive match his natural talent.
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by Ed Van Chimp on Jul 7, 2010 11:58 PM EDT up reply actions

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