Wednesday Morning Fly By: Danny! Danny! Danny!
Today's open discussion thread, complete with your daily dose of Philadelphia Flyers news and notes...
- Why aren't restricted free agents receiving offer sheets? There are some good names available: [From the Rink]
- The NHL is testing a few rule changes. Any that you like? [Puck Daddy]
- Danny Syvret on Twitter! Danny Syvret is on Twitter! [DannySyvret]
- Simon Bertilsson was on the first pairing with Lars Johnsson yesterday: [euroflyers]
- Looking at professional courtesy and the no-trade clause. [Puck Daddy]
- Lastly, Andrei Popov is centering his team's best line: the fourth. [euroflyers]
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Damn my lack of confidence in spelling…I would have been first!
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by KreiderDesigns on Aug 18, 2010 10:31 AM EDT up reply actions
Peter Svboda! (Sp?)
Flyers Fans: We've survived Lock-outs, Lindros and Cooperalls. If you want to get rid of us, you'll have to split an atom or two.
by KreiderDesigns on Aug 18, 2010 10:29 AM EDT reply actions
I like Rule 3 as a step towards no-touch icing, but the other rules range from mostly useless (face-off selection, off-ice official) to downright stupid (short-handed icing, no line change off-sides, overtime circus).
Oh, and Petr Svoboda. Just ’cause.
Honor is no substitute for victory.
I agree about no-touch icing. I really liked how that ended up working during the Olympics. The pro-shorthanded icing stuff I’ve read this summer is ridiculous — the concept of a team being able to score as many times as it can during the two or four minutes makes more sense than that.
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by Ben Feldman on Aug 18, 2010 10:35 AM EDT up reply actions
We should do the overtime circus only if they allow dancing bears and clowns. It would be great to see Bettman, Sather and Burke climbing out of that tiny little car.
Most of the rules are just terrible. But I like the no touch icing rule.
"In fact, it is probably safe to say, the statement "I am a hockey fan" is the same as "I hate gary bettman."- bfrank27
I agree, all of those rules are just dumb except the icing one, I hope that goes into effect.
#1 Flyers Fan in New York
Good bye #12, you will always bleed Orange and Black.
by Lindbergh 31 on Aug 18, 2010 4:18 PM EDT up reply actions
I could only find them WITH the make-up on…LOL!

Cheers,
Fezzy
http://fezzysworld.blogspot.com
...The fans are standing up to them! The security guards are standing up to them! The peanut vendors are standing up to them! And by golly, if I could get down there, I'd be standing up to them!
...Puttin on the Foil since 1969...
I intend on tackling this image down the line in Slap Schtick, great idea.
Flyers Fans: We've survived Lock-outs, Lindros and Cooperalls. If you want to get rid of us, you'll have to split an atom or two.
by KreiderDesigns on Aug 18, 2010 5:16 PM EDT up reply actions
If I was home at my Mac, I would have photoshopped their faces in, all I have here at work is windows paint (SUX VERY MUCH BAD!!!)…
Cheers,
Fezzy
http://fezzysworld.blogspot.com
...The fans are standing up to them! The security guards are standing up to them! The peanut vendors are standing up to them! And by golly, if I could get down there, I'd be standing up to them!
...Puttin on the Foil since 1969...
Windows sucks in general. Its funny though, for me its the opposite. I only have Adobe programs on my PC, can’t afford it for my Mac yet.
Flyers Fans: We've survived Lock-outs, Lindros and Cooperalls. If you want to get rid of us, you'll have to split an atom or two.
by KreiderDesigns on Aug 18, 2010 5:36 PM EDT up reply actions
perhaps I could help out with CS3 if you want it
Cheers,
Fezzy
http://fezzysworld.blogspot.com
...The fans are standing up to them! The security guards are standing up to them! The peanut vendors are standing up to them! And by golly, if I could get down there, I'd be standing up to them!
...Puttin on the Foil since 1969...
What are you suggesting? E-mail me if you’re serious. KreiderDesigns@gmail.com
Flyers Fans: We've survived Lock-outs, Lindros and Cooperalls. If you want to get rid of us, you'll have to split an atom or two.
by KreiderDesigns on Aug 19, 2010 10:46 AM EDT up reply actions
Haha, I can’t wait to see it.
"In fact, it is probably safe to say, the statement "I am a hockey fan" is the same as "I hate gary bettman."- bfrank27
by Mike B on D on Aug 18, 2010 10:15 PM EDT up reply actions
Fun Fact
Name another Flyer to wear #23 in the 99 season?
(Hint: Changed his # to 15 that year)
saying "F**k Homer" since 7-19-10
Brendl?
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by KreiderDesigns on Aug 18, 2010 10:41 AM EDT up reply actions
Way wrong, forget i said this.
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by KreiderDesigns on Aug 18, 2010 10:43 AM EDT up reply actions
He did wear both those numbers but so did Todd White, who I think is the answer to this question. I don’t know why I thought he was earlier than 99 though.
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by KreiderDesigns on Aug 18, 2010 10:43 AM EDT up reply actions
Oh, hey, that was the ’99-00 season. I only remembered we got White in 2000, but it was January of that year.
Honor is no substitute for victory.
Ahhh ok. That’s funny though, two players wore the same two numbers in back to back seasons. What are the chances.
Flyers Fans: We've survived Lock-outs, Lindros and Cooperalls. If you want to get rid of us, you'll have to split an atom or two.
by KreiderDesigns on Aug 18, 2010 10:46 AM EDT up reply actions
The other fun one with Todd White was that he wore 23 in 99-00. So did Peter White. I am certain that hilarity ensued.
Honor is no substitute for victory.
All those Whites look the same to me anyway.
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by KreiderDesigns on Aug 18, 2010 10:50 AM EDT up reply actions
Choose your own faceoff opponent sounds hilarious. If it’s limited to forwards will we see teams that throw out three centers for crucial draws late in the game? That’d be interesting.
There is absolutely no reason to call icing during short handed situations. That would be a terrible rule. How can you kill a penalty with that rule? Terrible, terrible idea.
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by KreiderDesigns on Aug 18, 2010 10:39 AM EDT reply actions
Yeah, I hated all the rules except the faceoff challenge—which I loved—and the overtime mini games—which I’m amenable to. I’d like to the latter tested in the AHL. The former is ready to go; I want to see it tomorrow.
I smell fodder for Slap Schtick…hmmm…/strokes beard…well, not beard, chin fuzz/
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by KreiderDesigns on Aug 18, 2010 10:47 AM EDT up reply actions
I just want to know who makes this crap up … all of these are awful ideas. No touch icing might work (I am not a fan personally) but the idea proposed isn’t that. It is some bastardization of the idea and gives the officials more control over the game than the players on the ice.
I agree. Is there such a thing as a hockey “purist” like in baseball? I’d like the NHl to stop changing the rules (or threatening to) every year. The only one I’d be ok with is a no touch icing as in IIHF/Olympic/NCAA play. You want crashes into the end boards go watch NASCAR.
And the pick your faceoff opponent smacks of basketball (DAMN YOU BETTMAN!!). It’s down the path from determining who to foul and send to the free throw line.
None of these stupid rules will result in people attending games in ATL or PHX, so I’d really wish the league would stop this crossover crap.
How about when you score a goal you get to spin an oversize novelty game wheel and whatever your cursor lands on is now many point you get for the goal. And the real “challenge” is sometimes the points are negative and you end up losing point for a goal. And don’t forget the all important bankrupt spot …
oww … and we can have it where you can choose to bank your points, but if you do the opposing team gets a penalty shot and when they score (not “if” because we will shrink all the goalie equipment to the point that a string bikini covers more) they steal all the points you were trying to bank
… the universe is coming together
I don’t really understand how any of these rules are a crossover into any other sport, but that’s probably because you don’t have a coherent position.
Everyone needs to relax. It’s the RDO camp. If they didn’t have ridiculous rule changes to test, there’d be no reason for the event at all. A fuller list is here, for anyone who wants more to get angry about (wider blue lines?).
Can anyone find explanations of what’s being tested regarding the “crease reset rule” and the “delayed penalty rule”
Verification goal line (additional line situated behind the goal line)? You mean a line that if the puck is touching it then the puck must be crossed the actual goal line? That would be helpful … so would looking a camera angles that are not from center ice, but who is nit picking …
I personally always wanted them to used some foxtrax like technology and have sensors on the under and insides of the goal posts so when the puck goes between the sensors a light will come on for the scorers bench. It would only be semi-official. The on-ice official would have to refer to the light for a questionable call and it couldn’t overrule the on-ice official unless asked …
My problem with FoxTrax was this:
To create the FoxTrax puck, a standard NHL puck was cut in half, and a tiny circuit board with a battery was placed inside. The circuit board contained a shock sensor and infrared emitters that were located on the flat surfaces and perimeter of the puck.
Obviously, despite testing that indicated otherwise, this messes with the properties of the puck—and players noticed.
I’m hoping they either go with a HawkEye-like system, or mess around with the idea of “common sense position” of the puck, relative to the goal line.
The only thing common about common sense is how uncommon it really is. They do need to do something though. Maybe allowing for better camera angles from the net?
"In fact, it is probably safe to say, the statement "I am a hockey fan" is the same as "I hate gary bettman."- bfrank27
The no shorthanded icing rule is ridiculous. It’ll result in more goals (probably), but more powerplay goals, which means that there’s a higher chance that bad calls will lead to intense bitching.
I’d like to cut down on that.
Smart lad
It all comes down to the idea that we need to increase scoring. Find some way to get as many goals into the game as possible because we simple feeble humans can’t comprehend a game what isn’t non-stop gratification. In other new soccer is still the most popular sport in the world … that is all.
I think the problem is that too many people think the equation is scoring = excitement. I offer one simple rebuttal to that: the NBA.
The NHL needs to understand that excitement comes from things happening. I think the NHL would be smart to take a cue from the wildly popular World Cup (as you said, soccer is the world’s most popular sport) and wildly popular US/Canada Olympic Hockey game: less commercials are better! I don’t care if the Philadelphia Xfinity Flyers have Citizens Bank logos on their uniforms with a Gatorade bug in the corner and the announcers talking about how enjoyable their KFC is. If it means no commercials, it’ll do more than any rule change could do.
You won’t be able to kill a penalty with that rule. If you are able ice the puck while on the PK, then it will be a lot harder to make a line change during the PK. You can only send it out of your zone lightly to avoid it being iced. Plus if you ice it, you have to stay on the ice while the PP unit gets to change, and you have a draw in your own zone while being tired and a man down.
And if you successfully don’t ice the puck, I’m sure the team on the PP will probably take advantage of the fact you can’t blast it out of the zone and trap the PK players in the zone to tire them out and get an easy goal in the last minute of the PP. It’ll make the amount of power play goals skyrocket in the season. I hope it doesn’t make it past this camp.
That choosing your own opponent in the face-off is interesting. I would like it for an NHL video game but in real life, nah.
#1 Flyers Fan in New York
Good bye #12, you will always bleed Orange and Black.
by Lindbergh 31 on Aug 18, 2010 4:26 PM EDT up reply actions
There IS a picture. Don’t know why it isn’t showing so let’s try another one:

Do you see what happens when you find a stranger in the Alps?
Gord Murphy?
Contributor at The Brotherly Game, SBN's Philadelphia Union blog
by Ben Feldman on Aug 18, 2010 11:36 AM EDT up reply actions
LOL! Pretty hard to forget a guy that is the ‘Real Boy’ version of Howdy Doody…
So, how about this guy?

Cheers,
Fezzy
http://fezzysworld.blogspot.com
...The fans are standing up to them! The security guards are standing up to them! The peanut vendors are standing up to them! And by golly, if I could get down there, I'd be standing up to them!
...Puttin on the Foil since 1969...
Mike Bullard. I met him in 1990. Super nice guy.
Do you see what happens when you find a stranger in the Alps?
horrible trade though if I remember we gave up Peter Zezel for Bullard and Bullard didn’t impress going back a long way for me I was like 9 when the trade went down I just remember being disappointed
Wooly Bully
Indeed it is Mr. Bullard…
I was about 20 when we traded fan (especially teenage girls) favorite Peter Zezel to the Blues for Bullard.
In reference to Bullard not being impressive…
Mike played in 124 games from 88-89 through 89-90
He scored 50 goals and 63 assists for 113 points and added 127PIM
He played in 19 playoff games…scoring 20 points.
by comparison…
Mr. Zezel played in 125 games for the Blues (also from 88-89 through 89-90)
He scored 42 goals and 83 assists for 125 points and added 57PIM
He played 22 playoff games…scoring 20 points
In truth, both teams basically swapped the same player, their numbers (other than Mike being more of an instigator and racking up some PIMs) are eerily similar…
Cheers,
Fezzy
http://fezzysworld.blogspot.com
...The fans are standing up to them! The security guards are standing up to them! The peanut vendors are standing up to them! And by golly, if I could get down there, I'd be standing up to them!
...Puttin on the Foil since 1969...
I hate when contestants outbid each other by $1 on Price Is Right, aggravates me a lot.
I tried to think of something pithy to add to this, but couldn’t.
Contributor at The Brotherly Game, SBN's Philadelphia Union blog
I believe this was also a little snippet on Family Guy once where they showed a vignette of Price is Right and the last person outbid the second to last person by a dollar and then the guy turns to her and says, “F*** You.”
Lex clavatoris designati rescindenda est.
Ask and you shall recieve
There was no better version, unfortunately.
Flyers Fans: We've survived Lock-outs, Lindros and Cooperalls. If you want to get rid of us, you'll have to split an atom or two.
by KreiderDesigns on Aug 18, 2010 11:52 AM EDT up reply actions
“Hey Seth McFarlane, South Park called they want their everything back”
"Call me dumb, call me stupid, whatever. I block shots."
Meh, I like both shows. And both of them sometimes overly-proselytize.
Lex clavatoris designati rescindenda est.
it’s a quote from the Hasslehoff roast they just had that he hosted.
Also see Gilbert Godfried’s rant about him not being able to wipe his own ass because the Simpsons didn’t do it first for him to copy.
"Call me dumb, call me stupid, whatever. I block shots."
Oh, I didn’t see it. I’ll have to catch it when they re-air it. Was it on CC?
Lex clavatoris designati rescindenda est.
Yeah Comedy Central so it will be re-aired every weekend probably. It was actually pretty good. Some really terrible jokes that killed me. Overall I’d say a B.
Flyers Fans: We've survived Lock-outs, Lindros and Cooperalls. If you want to get rid of us, you'll have to split an atom or two.
by KreiderDesigns on Aug 18, 2010 12:32 PM EDT up reply actions
CC will replay a 1000 times but with bleeps.
Agree on Kreider’s grade.
"Call me dumb, call me stupid, whatever. I block shots."
You might be able to catch it in the “Secret Stash” which is i think 1pm or later where they don’t have to bleep it.
Flyers Fans: We've survived Lock-outs, Lindros and Cooperalls. If you want to get rid of us, you'll have to split an atom or two.
by KreiderDesigns on Aug 18, 2010 12:47 PM EDT up reply actions
Who could forget NENA and her hairy armpits from 99 red balloons?
I have tried to block it out and can’t, I shudder every time I see a red balloon…
Cheers,
Fezzy
http://fezzysworld.blogspot.com
...The fans are standing up to them! The security guards are standing up to them! The peanut vendors are standing up to them! And by golly, if I could get down there, I'd be standing up to them!
...Puttin on the Foil since 1969...
I shudder when I see ‘ferrets’ nesting in womens armpits…
Cheers,
Fezzy
http://fezzysworld.blogspot.com
...The fans are standing up to them! The security guards are standing up to them! The peanut vendors are standing up to them! And by golly, if I could get down there, I'd be standing up to them!
...Puttin on the Foil since 1969...
rules changes my thoughts
Face-off challenge jesus that is just stupid I want you. Not a good idea it is gimmicky especially if you can pick D-Men. You might as well just have the other team forfeit the draw if they are kicked out then that stupid rule. I don’t want refs having any more impact on the game.
Hybrid icing rule. Hybrid is a half ass compromise forcing the linesman to make a decision and will lead to tons and tons of inconsistency either it is no touch or touch nothing have assed. Leaving the linesman with a choice worked out real well with the famous no icing on a pass attempt rule that I am not even sure exists anymore or is just fat out ignored by the refs.
The OT rules are a joke. 2 on 2 Hockey for a point are you kidding me. 1st off you have to stop the OT action to switch from the 4 on 4 two the 3 on 3 and then again to the 2 on 2. Which is going to kill the flow of the game and seriously 4 on 4 is enough of a bastardization of the game 2 on 2 is total clown shoes. Next you each pull your goal in favor of the windmill and players shot from center ice or put in the superskill plate accuracy competition to determine the winner. I rather see each teams elects their tough guy and they go at it in a two man enter one man leaves judged fight for the gay Bettmen point, at least then we could justify Shelly’s salary.
2nd ref off the ice is also a joke off ice official to call penalties is probably the best of the rule changes. I still think the 2 refs system leads to much indecision who is going to call it me or you oh well if the penalty was so obvious the other guy would have called it so I will let it go type stuff. One man with all the control of penalties is best for consistency. Stuff behind the play will be missed but that is hockey.
jesus that is stupid I want you.
I’m pretty sure that’s an R Kelly lyric.
The faceoff challenge may be gimmicky, but it as has a sensible effect on the game—you cheat the faceoff, your team gets punished. Plus, Matt Carle can be a hero for winning a faceoff when Crosby calls him out, and I like that idea.
I agree on the hybrid icing. I prefer the touch-up system, but I’d rather see a no-touch than a surely dysfunctional hybrid.
The OT rules are addressing a system that is already killing the flow of the game, and a bastardization. I don’t see how a 2v2 end to OT is worse than a shootout.
I’m have no idea what you’re saying about the second ref off ice.
Overall, I suggest people see how things play out at RDO before letting their blood pressure rise.
I think what he’s saying about the second ref off ice is that it will cause confusion. With one off-ice, if he sees something, he’s the decision-maker. With two, it introduces the potential for self-doubt, questioning whether it’s a penalty, if the other off-ice official had a better angle and saw it was legal, et cetera.
If it weren’t for the risk of injury, I’d prefer the touch-up system as well, but it seems like some players use it as a chance to clobber the guy chasing down the puck. We’ve seen that no-touch works in international play, so I don’t have a problem adapting it to NHL play. I dont think the hybrid will really work out, but I’m sure they’ll figure that out during camp, since they’re testing both the hybrid and true no-touch.
Honor is no substitute for victory.
As some that plays in a no touch league, as most are now, I would love a Hybrid system. There are countless times when you have a step on a pivoting Dman, or you know you are a much stronger skater and beat him to the puck with the possibility of feeding a trailer etc. So I would want the Hybrid before the no touch, b/c trust me, the first time it ruins a chance for offensive zone possession, you’ll be pissed off. I’d rather touch, but I’m also not the one out there risking injury, so if touch was going away, I’d much rather the Hybrid (not that touch is going away, just saying if it did).
Is this the right room for an argument?
Yeah Hybrid works in theory but the refs are going to fuck it up. You can’t trust the refs and that would be one more thing to bitch about the D-Man might assume it is no touch and then it waived off late and he is fucked lost a step etc.. No decisions for the refs less decisions they make the better. They barely get the offsides right, no need to mention 1980, less referee influence not more.
I think you are assuming too much. If the Dman makes the assumption you should be bitching at the Dman not the linesman (by the way, the ref doesn’t make that call, it be the linesman). Players are taught to play the whistle; if a Dman wants to half ass it on an assumption that’s his own damn (and dumb) fault. And I’m also going to say they get the offside call right the vast majority of the time, you just happen to remember the instances where if cost someone.
If it’s no touch versus hybrid, I’d vote hybrid 110% of the time. Again, I’m not saying get rid of touch, but if it goes away, no touch is terrible.
Is this the right room for an argument?
There is some precedence for a shootout in sports at the international level there is no precedence for removing players off the field off play
imagine extra innings baseball teams go down to two outfielders and just your top 5 batters
football goes to 8 on 8 for the OT
basketball goes the NBA jam style 3 on 3 for the OT
Everyone would be so much better with the SO if that didn’t get you the same two points you get for winning 5-0. That is the problem with the shootout the 2 points and the fact that it is only 3 players each.
A 5 on 5 shootout would make it more exciting, be more consistent with the sport, hockey is played 5 on 5, and if a regulation win was worth 3 pts and a SO win was only worth 2 there wouldn’t be nearly much complaining about the gimmick.
2 on 2 hockey is not hockey 4 on 4 at least that happens during the course of game sometimes 2 on 2 please.
There is some precedence for a shootout in sports at the international level there is no precedence for removing players off the field off play
The new 4 vs 4 OT rule in hockey is exactly that precedence of removing players from the field of play for an OT. Just saying, not arguing for or against this rule (I’d stop after 3v3 personally), but I figured I’d throw out that point.
I do agree with the point system, I think most people do. That should be the focus rather than changing up OT again.
Is this the right room for an argument?
I propose changing it to where you abolish the shootout and play a 5 minute over time in either 4v4 or 5v5 (doesn’t matter to me really). Then when if at the end of OT no one has scored the game ends and both team are awarded one of the two points they come out in attempt to win.
Well that would work too, but it be even more of a pipe dream to return to the way it was than the league changing the point system haha
Is this the right room for an argument?
How about it becomes another 15 minute period of sudden death 5v5. That way you can mimic football which is the most awesomeness of sports to rip off. I think that would be better plus can you see all the jokes coming from Quebec when our Quarterback captain doesn’t remember that game can end in a tie.
If you give both teams a point for the tie, teams aren’t going to bother playing for the extra point until the end of the year, no matter how long you make the sudden death OT. The only good part about the shootout is the finality—for overtime to contested there needs to be an end game.
Not that this matters. The NHLPA will never allow the games to be extended past five minutes of overtime. We just have to jigger the point allotment.
I’ll gladly take two teams calling in the last 5 minutes in November if it means I never have to see a shootout again.
I am curious though if there are any numbers to substantiate the claim that the two teams won’t try until later in the year (not that I don’t agree with you on that one, but it would be nice to see).
Why have overtime, then?
It was instituted for the 1983-84 season. In the 1982-83 season, the Blues made the playoffs with a record fifteen games under .500. 25-40-15.
you forgot the best news from yesterday. NHL11 demo is now available for download. First time I played it, I got the most ironic result. Carter won game 7 in OT and Leights got the Conn Smythe. It was an extremely bitter irony having won the cup in a game in such a fashion.
by historywillbemade on Aug 18, 2010 12:59 PM EDT reply actions
I lost my first game in OT and my second game the 3rd started with me down 0-3. Balls.
Btw, huge fail. Mezaros and Bartulis are the third pairing? Weak sauce.
Flyers Fans: We've survived Lock-outs, Lindros and Cooperalls. If you want to get rid of us, you'll have to split an atom or two.
by KreiderDesigns on Aug 18, 2010 1:13 PM EDT up reply actions
roster was very strange indeed. asham still on the roster, so was gagne, mezaros but no other new addition. oh well it’s only a demo and who knows how long ago they had roster set for demo version.
by historywillbemade on Aug 18, 2010 1:43 PM EDT up reply actions
Well its supposed to be last years SCF. Which means Asham should be there but Mezaros should be Parent.
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by KreiderDesigns on Aug 18, 2010 1:52 PM EDT up reply actions
Right, but I didn’t have a link to it. I also found a ton of NHL11 fake covers, but don’t really have a “link” to them, just addresses for images.
Man-crushin' on Boucher since 1999
Broad Street Hockey - Makin' it look mean since 1967.
by Geoff Detweiler on Aug 18, 2010 1:41 PM EDT up reply actions
Re: Photos being recent
Because we have to go through Getty and their archives don’t go back that far, the choices are limited. Each time I’ve wanted players from the 70s and 80s, they’re either not available or none existent.
So, we apologize to those over the age of 25 who are offended at how easy they are.
Man-crushin' on Boucher since 1999
Broad Street Hockey - Makin' it look mean since 1967.
by Geoff Detweiler on Aug 18, 2010 1:54 PM EDT reply actions
Hey Geoff, don’t know if it’s a legal thing that requires using getty images, but I find alot of stuff over at legendsofhockey.net…
For instance, just for $ and giggles I googled Al Conroy and found nothing. I went to legendsofhockey.net and found a bio and a pic

they usually have at least 1 pic of everybody that you can r-click to view the image info to get the link…Perhaps that will allow you some more flexibility for variety to stump us “over 35’s”
DEAR LORD! They even had a picture of this guy…

Cheers,
Fezzy
http://fezzysworld.blogspot.com
...The fans are standing up to them! The security guards are standing up to them! The peanut vendors are standing up to them! And by golly, if I could get down there, I'd be standing up to them!
...Puttin on the Foil since 1969...
Any Guesses?
Cheers,
Fezzy
http://fezzysworld.blogspot.com
...The fans are standing up to them! The security guards are standing up to them! The peanut vendors are standing up to them! And by golly, if I could get down there, I'd be standing up to them!
...Puttin on the Foil since 1969...
Don Biggs for the top one? (Google did not help, nor did searching Flyers jersey numbers)
Flyers Fans: We've survived Lock-outs, Lindros and Cooperalls. If you want to get rid of us, you'll have to split an atom or two.
by KreiderDesigns on Aug 18, 2010 4:26 PM EDT up reply actions
Well the top one is Al Conroy as stated in the text…
The bottom is none other than…
(pause for dramatic effect)
(fails miserably in achieving dramatic effect)
…Steve Coates
Cheers,
Fezzy
http://fezzysworld.blogspot.com
...The fans are standing up to them! The security guards are standing up to them! The peanut vendors are standing up to them! And by golly, if I could get down there, I'd be standing up to them!
...Puttin on the Foil since 1969...
Oh wow, didn’t even read what you wrote just saw two pictures and Any Guesses. Sorry.
No way. That does not look like Coatsey at all. Crazy!
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by KreiderDesigns on Aug 18, 2010 4:41 PM EDT up reply actions
And he’s wearing an A! Though something tells me his A stood for alcoholic, not alternate captain.
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by Geoff Detweiler on Aug 18, 2010 3:48 PM EDT up reply actions
gotcha, makes sense, i was just trying to lend a hand
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by Travis Hughes on Aug 18, 2010 8:52 PM EDT up reply actions
OMG
I haven’t been here so long! It feels like ages. What’d I miss???
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by ic0n67 on Aug 18, 2010 2:04 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
OMG!
Awesome Austin Powers reference…too funny! Kudos to you sir!
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Haha, excellent.
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by Travis Hughes on Aug 18, 2010 8:52 PM EDT up reply actions
Well…we’re like a band now…
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De Women, how much for de women?
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All of those rules and not even an attempt at removing the stupid fucking trapezoid. Wonderful.
Although that OT idea is intriguing. Seeing these guys play 4v4 could be pretty entertaining, like a beefed up version of roller hockey. But 2v2? Meh. The whole thing is pretty weird, but it’s an interesting idea.
All these rules changes seem dumb. It is like the NHL wants to be like NFL or NBA or MLB it isn’t going to happen. It is like the Philadelphia thing people who have never been there think the people suck, fans suck and there is no changing their mind. That is the deal with hockey people just think it is boring cause someone said so who heard it from someone who said so. That is just a opinion.
I wasn't even a year old but I stayed up to be outside the Vet with my Dad and Mom when the Phillies won the World Series 1980.
For what it’s worht, a Red Wings blogger/Kukla commenter is at the RDO. Says 3v3 OT is fine, 2v2 is bad. Also, that rooming 4" of depth from the net for room behind it seems ok.
OT concept for your consideration:
My wife and I were discussing hockey OT rules a few months ago while watching a game. She likes the shootout, while I want to go back to the 5-min OT resulting in a tie (with no charity point for the OTL) that I grew up with. Of course, the ideal would be perpetual sudden death OT like in the playoffs, but the NHLPA would never agree to it.
Since we couldn’t agree on a past or current system, we came up with something entirely new:
It’s kind of loosely based on the college football overtime idea (also somewhat akin to extra innings in baseball), where each team takes turns with a scoring drive on a shortened field. We figured the hockey equivalent of that would be alternating powerplays. You give a 2-minute powerplay to each team and repeat until one team scores and the other doesn’t. Some of the finer details are still up for debate. Like the number of players, do you do 5-on-4? 4-on-3? 5-on-3? Do you change it for each round? If the team with the extra man scores, do you end the powerplay like on a minor, or continue for the full duration like a major? (I think you would end it like a minor.) What do you do if the shorthanded team scores? The one problem I see is that it could still take a long time given that last year’s PP% for the season ranged from 14-25%. So maybe that’s where you go to 5-on-3….
Your thoughts? Could this work? Would you enjoy watching it?
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Very interesting. I think you start 5-on-4 then go to 5-on-3. Then maybe 3-on-1 rushes? It’s a good theory but I’m not sure how practical it would end up being. I think it would go on much longer than the shootout.
I say just make the shootout 5 shooters like it should be, like it is in every other sport and be done with it.
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by KreiderDesigns on Aug 18, 2010 5:19 PM EDT up reply actions
If the NHL’s problem with shootouts are that it’s a niche skill, and that teams are tailoring their rosters to it, this suggestions—while certainly interesting—wouldn’t solve the core problem.
Personally, I think it’s just about as arbitrary as a shootout. Teams with excellent special teams already have enough of a competitive advantage.
That might not be a bad idea. Kind of like a shootout but you have the entire team and have defense. And go back and forth until one team doesn’t score. So I guess you are thinking sudden death from the start? Or giving each team 2 or 3 chances like a shootout and then going to sudden death?
I think it should be the 5 minute 4 on 4. Then at the end of that try the power play thing as a sudden death. Home team chooses if they go first or last, and keep it like the situation in a sudden death shootout. Better than our skills competition we have now.
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by Lindbergh 31 on Aug 18, 2010 7:11 PM EDT up reply actions
Poaching the best from Puck Daddy’s daily:
-Explanations of possible rule changes
-Reactions from RDO seem to favor the hybrid icing and 3v3 (but not 2v2) overtimes

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