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First one to comment on a Fly By. Ohhhh yeaaahhhh.

I’ve really got nothing else I was just too excited to comment

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by ToddtheFox on Aug 26, 2010 9:36 AM EDT reply actions  

After reading some of the articles, at 2am none-the-less, that Brodeur one is pretty much 100% awesome.

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by ToddtheFox on Aug 26, 2010 9:52 AM EDT up reply actions  

yeah, I was really impressed. He did a lot of good work on that.

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by Geoff Detweiler on Aug 26, 2010 9:53 AM EDT up reply actions  

From the HB article:

Wellwood is the resident chef.

“Cooking’s one of my favorite things to do, I’ve always cooked ever since I was young and they know that the kitchen is my domain and they stay clear when I start cooking!”

(Not the right Wellwood, unfortunately.)

by ww2b on Aug 26, 2010 9:44 AM EDT reply actions  

(Not the right Wellwood, unfortunately.)

?

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by Geoff Detweiler on Aug 26, 2010 9:54 AM EDT up reply actions  

Poorly executed Kyle Wellwood fat joke.

by ww2b on Aug 26, 2010 10:03 AM EDT up reply actions  

Maybe. Are we going to have a BSH one again?

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by Ben Feldman on Aug 26, 2010 10:01 AM EDT up reply actions  

Safrigginweet! You guys do a ‘justferchitsandgiggles’ FHL?

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by Fezzlekway on Aug 26, 2010 10:10 AM EDT up reply actions  

Well, we did one last year. Just so happened that Travis got the #1 overall pick. What a coincidence!

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by Ben Feldman on Aug 26, 2010 10:15 AM EDT up reply actions  

I am totally in if there is another this year!

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...The fans are standing up to them! The security guards are standing up to them! The peanut vendors are standing up to them! And by golly, if I could get down there, I'd be standing up to them!
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by Fezzlekway on Aug 26, 2010 12:16 PM EDT up reply actions  

Travis?

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by Ben Feldman on Aug 26, 2010 12:27 PM EDT up reply actions  

Good god no, not another Travis, i meant if there’s another league this year, i am totally in! LOL!

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Fezzy
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by Fezzlekway on Aug 26, 2010 12:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

Oh, yeah, I was trying to get the attention of Travis so we could know if there was going to be one this year.

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by Ben Feldman on Aug 26, 2010 12:41 PM EDT up reply actions  

I’ll go ahead and set it up later today. We might need two, huh?

By the way, who won last year?

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by Travis Hughes on Aug 26, 2010 12:41 PM EDT up reply actions  

How do you guys do it? Head to Head or Rotisserie?

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by Fezzlekway on Aug 26, 2010 12:43 PM EDT up reply actions  

H2H is awful for just about any fantasy sport outside of Football (because everyone plays the same amount of games per week).

by ic0n67 on Aug 26, 2010 1:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

I like H2H for baseball. Rotisserie is just brutal over 162 games.

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by Geoff Detweiler on Aug 26, 2010 1:46 PM EDT up reply actions  

It is okay. But it does suck when your opponent has 2 staff aces and both of them pitch twice in a week when you end up only having one and he gets rained out for his only start that week … Not saying it is not bad, but it can defiantly be unbalanced.

What ever happened to the points leagues? I used to play points WAY back in the day for all my sports. In points it works like H2H where you get point (or negative points) for doing things, but you are not heads up against anyone looking for a win or a loss. Had such a good year one year in hockey I actually scored enough points to win my league before December was over. I guess that answers my own question >.>

by ic0n67 on Aug 26, 2010 1:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

haha, exactly.

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by Geoff Detweiler on Aug 26, 2010 2:13 PM EDT up reply actions  

Right witcha Geoff, just waiting for Playoffs to start in my Yahoo FBL now…

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Fezzy
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...The fans are standing up to them! The security guards are standing up to them! The peanut vendors are standing up to them! And by golly, if I could get down there, I'd be standing up to them!
...Puttin on the Foil since 1969...

by Fezzlekway on Aug 26, 2010 1:58 PM EDT up reply actions  

Just set up a Yahoo FFL (H2H) for Eagles Fanz only, man did the 12 spots fill up quick, even got a Eagle fan from North of the border LOL!
I do agree though H2H is very difficult for hockey, I always liked the ‘Points’ leagues best, but it seems as though rotisserie is the way to go…usually I only like my chicken rotisseried, not my hockey LOL!

Cheers,

Fezzy
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...The fans are standing up to them! The security guards are standing up to them! The peanut vendors are standing up to them! And by golly, if I could get down there, I'd be standing up to them!
...Puttin on the Foil since 1969...

by Fezzlekway on Aug 26, 2010 1:56 PM EDT up reply actions  

I don’t recognize the league champion as a BSH user. You came in third, though, and I was in 11th.

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by Ben Feldman on Aug 26, 2010 12:47 PM EDT up reply actions  

I’m definitely in, which site do you guys do it on?

You ain't a has-been, if you never was.

by jello44 on Aug 26, 2010 1:07 PM EDT up reply actions  

I would definitely play in it, if there’s room.

I love the Flyers so much I even went to Bobby Clarke Day Camp.

by billy_pilgrim on Aug 26, 2010 1:15 PM EDT up reply actions  

I’d like to be in, too.

by DragonGirl0583 on Aug 26, 2010 3:34 PM EDT up reply actions  

I’d like to play too.

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by ToddtheFox on Aug 26, 2010 3:50 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah, I’d get in too if you have the room.

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by Psy09 on Aug 26, 2010 6:29 PM EDT up reply actions  

i want in

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by Zachswider on Aug 26, 2010 10:52 AM EDT up reply actions  

IN!!!!

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by boknows71 on Aug 26, 2010 10:55 AM EDT up reply actions  

if you need another body, I’m in………..just be prepared to be dominated

by Pocono Flyers Fan on Aug 26, 2010 11:29 AM EDT up reply actions  

I would, definitely. I’ll email you shortly.

I love the Flyers so much I even went to Bobby Clarke Day Camp.

by billy_pilgrim on Aug 26, 2010 11:33 AM EDT up reply actions  

This would be in addition to the BSH league, as I hope to get in on that, too. Please e-mail if you’re interested. Got 3 people right now, lookin for 5 more-ish.

by douglownote on Aug 26, 2010 7:24 PM EDT up reply actions  

I see this fan summit thing is a communal effort by all the blogs, but the game on the 16th could be tough to get tickets for… is that going to be set in stone by the time tickets go on sale? It mentions possibly moving it to the Isles game farther down, so I don’t know how far they gotten in the planning over there.

by DragonGirl0583 on Aug 26, 2010 10:08 AM EDT reply actions  

They came up with the idea yesterday, I believe.

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by Travis Hughes on Aug 26, 2010 11:47 AM EDT up reply actions  

OUCH!!!!!!!!!

Thanks for the cringe worthy picture. Not having an ACL in my right knee from a collision like that runs my blood cold. Now I have to leave until this is far enough down the main page I won’t have to see it anymore.

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by MJDII on Aug 26, 2010 10:30 AM EDT reply actions  

Jagr? Really? I was embarrassed for the Rangers fans when I saw that and then I remembered I hate Rags fans and went on with my day.

"Call me dumb, call me stupid, whatever. I block shots."

by boknows71 on Aug 26, 2010 10:33 AM EDT reply actions  

Don’t get me wrong I hate the Rangers more than any other team and have for a long time no matter how sad they are, but that list was a travesty of a mockery of a sham. That dude from Blueshirt Banter should be fired today for that blasphemy he perpetrated against his constituents.

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by MJDII on Aug 26, 2010 10:42 AM EDT up reply actions  

A traveshamockery?

Seriously, there were so many other players who could’ve filled that spot.

I can understand some controversy with this Puckmore things, since you’re limited to 4 choices and you have to differentiate between the representative of a franchise versus performance on the ice.

But for an original six team to put up a guy that played 3 years there? I don’t get it.

by Phalange on Aug 26, 2010 11:21 AM EDT up reply actions  

It’s just…strange. He was there for three and a half years when the Rangers did nothing, and the so clearly a Penguins by cognitive association. It would be (almost exactly) like putting Forsberg on our Rushmore.

by Snevik on Aug 26, 2010 10:59 AM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah two bad choices: #1 Picking Jagr (I mean an original 6 team and all those years Jagr who was there all of 3 years [i think] is the face of the franchise?) and #2 being defensive about his opinion on the interwebs … the latter is a recipe for disaster.

by ic0n67 on Aug 26, 2010 11:24 AM EDT up reply actions  

Off Topic Alert

I watched the game two re-broadcast of the Bruins-Flyers series on NHL Channel yesterday and sadly enough I was just as pissed as I was the first time I watched. I found myself screaming at the TV wanting those announcers to STFU. I even looked at my dad when it was done and said well I think the series is over. :-) And by the way Carter didn’t show the frig up as usual! That part was sarcasm.

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by MJDII on Aug 26, 2010 10:37 AM EDT reply actions  

This concludes my involvement for the month.

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by MJDII on Aug 26, 2010 10:42 AM EDT reply actions  

Phantoms are at the Center on Jan 21? … Do I smell a BSH Night?

by ic0n67 on Aug 26, 2010 11:17 AM EDT reply actions  

I love the pic of Pronger.

"Call me dumb, call me stupid, whatever. I block shots."

by boknows71 on Aug 26, 2010 12:08 PM EDT up reply actions  

More reason to hate the Rangers.

I’d take NHL out of Rangers/NHL. The way the League handles bloggers is the problem, according to the Rangers.

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by Travis Hughes on Aug 26, 2010 12:23 PM EDT up reply actions  

But the NHL is not stepping in to normalize relations or just to set a league wide mandate. The NHL is hurting bloggers by not doing so.

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by Scott Kessler on Aug 26, 2010 5:05 PM EDT up reply actions  

The NHL doesn’t own the players, properties, and organizations involved. And whether or not they could make a mandate stick, I don’t blame them for staying away from this issue, as it allows them to embrace new media while not angering the clubs.

by Snevik on Aug 26, 2010 5:07 PM EDT up reply actions  

Unless you’re the Rangers….

I agree, the NHL shouldn’t step in and create one-size fits all policy. Things are different in Carolina than they are in New York, and that’s fine.

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by Travis Hughes on Aug 26, 2010 5:17 PM EDT up reply actions  

I’m not saying a one-size fits all policy, how about just send out a memo on how to include/deal with bloggers asking for press credentials? Why should one team be completely open to new media when another team shuts them out? Looks bad for the NHL and cuts off a vital new source of coverage.

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by Scott Kessler on Aug 26, 2010 5:59 PM EDT up reply actions  

If the Rangers make the decision that they can’t accommodate bloggers because there’s no room for them on press row, that’s their choice.

(That’s not why they’re denying bloggers, but that’s not the point.)

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by Travis Hughes on Aug 26, 2010 6:56 PM EDT up reply actions  

Like you said, that’s not the reason. If it was then we couldn’t complain about it. But since it isn’t the issue and the issue is clearly they just don’t like bloggers, then there is plenty of room for complaint.

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by Scott Kessler on Aug 26, 2010 8:41 PM EDT up reply actions  

“Pro: International overtime rules make it possible for a team to be eliminated from the playoffs during a shootout; it wouldn’t be fair if only Ranger fans ever got to know what that felt like.”
-—-from down goes brown

LOL

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by Zachswider on Aug 26, 2010 11:59 AM EDT reply actions  

Speaking of rules (someone mentioned rule changes over here today, right? erm…) some changes were also applied in our league. One of them would be that the time now goes from 20:00 to 00:00 (like in the NHL). Mind you it used to always be from 00:00 to 20:00. People on the discussion board of my fave team went all crazy over it… it was funny and sad at the same time to witness such drama over stupid clock (or whatever you call it).

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by Katchis on Aug 26, 2010 12:07 PM EDT reply actions  

perhaps counting down is a hard thing for those people, kinda like saying alphabet backwards

Cheers,

Fezzy
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...The fans are standing up to them! The security guards are standing up to them! The peanut vendors are standing up to them! And by golly, if I could get down there, I'd be standing up to them!
...Puttin on the Foil since 1969...

by Fezzlekway on Aug 26, 2010 12:09 PM EDT up reply actions  

One thing most people had issues with was that it’s “like in the NHL.” They were like… “Why do we have to copy all the stuff from the NHL???” blah blah blah… Some of them were practically mad with the NHL! Ridiculous. Seriously… like anyone from the NHL would give a damn to our league.

I love the Lightning AND the Flyers... go ahead, preach me!
Dare to follow my childish, biased, petty and cheesy alter ego.
American Cheese, B!tch! ... #1 mission? Kill Holmgren.

by Katchis on Aug 26, 2010 12:12 PM EDT up reply actions  

OMG!

Look at the time I post this! AWESOME! (I know I have issues)

I love the Lightning AND the Flyers... go ahead, preach me!
Dare to follow my childish, biased, petty and cheesy alter ego.
American Cheese, B!tch! ... #1 mission? Kill Holmgren.

by Katchis on Aug 26, 2010 12:14 PM EDT up reply actions  

You’re obsessed, Katie.

I’m afraid you’re a Gagne-holic.

Do you see what happens when you find a stranger in the Alps?

by mikefive on Aug 26, 2010 1:09 PM EDT up reply actions  

Is there a 12-step program for that?

Lex clavatoris designati rescindenda est.

by doubleh on Aug 26, 2010 1:48 PM EDT up reply actions  

Probably.

Do you see what happens when you find a stranger in the Alps?

by mikefive on Aug 26, 2010 2:01 PM EDT up reply actions  

You’re either born with it or you don’t have it :P I don’t know if it’s good thing though. I let others decide.

I love the Lightning AND the Flyers... go ahead, preach me!
Dare to follow my childish, biased, petty and cheesy alter ego.
American Cheese, B!tch! ... #1 mission? Kill Holmgren.

by Katchis on Aug 26, 2010 2:10 PM EDT up reply actions  

So it’s genetic then? Whew, I was worried about the gestation period if it was airbourne, or if it was only transmitted by touch…lol!

Cheers,

Fezzy
http://fezzysworld.blogspot.com

...The fans are standing up to them! The security guards are standing up to them! The peanut vendors are standing up to them! And by golly, if I could get down there, I'd be standing up to them!
...Puttin on the Foil since 1969...

by Fezzlekway on Aug 26, 2010 2:19 PM EDT up reply actions  

I think it only appeared in my case. In its complete power.

I love the Lightning AND the Flyers... go ahead, preach me!
Dare to follow my childish, biased, petty and cheesy alter ego.
American Cheese, B!tch! ... #1 mission? Kill Holmgren.

by Katchis on Aug 26, 2010 2:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

An isolated incident? Oh I doubt it Ms. Cheese, I am quite sure there are other that share your affliction…lol!

Cheers,

Fezzy
http://fezzysworld.blogspot.com

...The fans are standing up to them! The security guards are standing up to them! The peanut vendors are standing up to them! And by golly, if I could get down there, I'd be standing up to them!
...Puttin on the Foil since 1969...

by Fezzlekway on Aug 26, 2010 3:14 PM EDT up reply actions  

Probably, but hardly of my level :P

I love the Lightning AND the Flyers... go ahead, preach me!
Dare to follow my childish, biased, petty and cheesy alter ego.
American Cheese, B!tch! ... #1 mission? Kill Holmgren.

by Katchis on Aug 26, 2010 3:19 PM EDT up reply actions  

Oh you would, without a doubt, be their queen ;)

Cheers,

Fezzy
http://fezzysworld.blogspot.com

...The fans are standing up to them! The security guards are standing up to them! The peanut vendors are standing up to them! And by golly, if I could get down there, I'd be standing up to them!
...Puttin on the Foil since 1969...

by Fezzlekway on Aug 26, 2010 3:25 PM EDT up reply actions  

Thank you very much :D

I love the Lightning AND the Flyers... go ahead, preach me!
Dare to follow my childish, biased, petty and cheesy alter ego.
American Cheese, B!tch! ... #1 mission? Kill Holmgren.

by Katchis on Aug 26, 2010 3:27 PM EDT up reply actions  

I think it’s more a case of Americans not being willing to do any math to figure out how much time is left. Even today in the NHL the time a goal is scored is officially registered as the time counting up (i.e., Gagne scored his goal in game 7 at 12:52 of the third period, not with 7:08 remaining).

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by Ben Feldman on Aug 26, 2010 12:14 PM EDT up reply actions  

That’s another thing they complained about. There’ll be 7:08 on the clock while it’ll be registered as 12:52. They don’t like that there’ll be difference.

I love the Lightning AND the Flyers... go ahead, preach me!
Dare to follow my childish, biased, petty and cheesy alter ego.
American Cheese, B!tch! ... #1 mission? Kill Holmgren.

by Katchis on Aug 26, 2010 12:18 PM EDT up reply actions  

I’ll admit it: I hate looking at a boxscore and having to think about it.

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by Travis Hughes on Aug 26, 2010 12:25 PM EDT up reply actions  

Hmmn…I don’t really think about it at all. I look at the box score and say ok, the Flyguys scored 2 in the second and 1 in the third…“whoever” scored one in the third…We WIN!
Never even occurred to me to look at the time, I do (however) look to see if the goals were PP or SH…

Cheers,

Fezzy
http://fezzysworld.blogspot.com

...The fans are standing up to them! The security guards are standing up to them! The peanut vendors are standing up to them! And by golly, if I could get down there, I'd be standing up to them!
...Puttin on the Foil since 1969...

by Fezzlekway on Aug 26, 2010 12:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

I look at the time too… Especially when I didn’t get to see the game. If a team scores 3 goals in like 5 minutes, that’s something to look at and it’s worth waching highlights let’s say…

I love the Lightning AND the Flyers... go ahead, preach me!
Dare to follow my childish, biased, petty and cheesy alter ego.
American Cheese, B!tch! ... #1 mission? Kill Holmgren.

by Katchis on Aug 26, 2010 2:12 PM EDT up reply actions  

Flyers Mount Puckmore

So which one of you guys got/get (don’t know if it has been already submitted yet) to do the Flyers mountain? I just don’t want to see Alexandre Daigle or Roman Chekmanek making the mountain.

by ic0n67 on Aug 26, 2010 1:38 PM EDT reply actions  

Don't know who's doing it, but

I was going to put Peter Forsberg as representative of the 90s.

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by Geoff Detweiler on Aug 26, 2010 1:47 PM EDT up reply actions  

Sigh.

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by Ben Feldman on Aug 26, 2010 1:48 PM EDT up reply actions  

Honest question though … who would you put on the list?

Barber, Clarke, Parent, Van Impe, Poulin, Recchi, MacLeish, Brind’Amour, Desjardins, Dornhoefer, Hextall, Howe, Kelly, Kerr, Lindros, Propp … and people I can’t think off the top of my head … … … All i need to say is as an honorable mention Steve Coates need to make the list.

by ic0n67 on Aug 26, 2010 2:19 PM EDT up reply actions  

Clark, Parent, Lindros are gimmes. I’d be fine with Howe/Barber/Snider/Hextall for the fourth.

by Snevik on Aug 26, 2010 2:25 PM EDT up reply actions  

really? I though people would have Lindros as more of a dark horse type pick.

by ic0n67 on Aug 26, 2010 2:29 PM EDT up reply actions  

I dunno, considering it’s supposed to be “the faces of the franchise”, I think you HAVE to include Lindros. When you think of the Flyers’ in the 90s, who do you think of?

by Phalange on Aug 26, 2010 2:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

Recchi, Lindros, Brindy, LeClair…

Cheers,

Fezzy
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...The fans are standing up to them! The security guards are standing up to them! The peanut vendors are standing up to them! And by golly, if I could get down there, I'd be standing up to them!
...Puttin on the Foil since 1969...

by Fezzlekway on Aug 26, 2010 2:38 PM EDT up reply actions  

and Desjardins!

Cheers,

Fezzy
http://fezzysworld.blogspot.com

...The fans are standing up to them! The security guards are standing up to them! The peanut vendors are standing up to them! And by golly, if I could get down there, I'd be standing up to them!
...Puttin on the Foil since 1969...

by Fezzlekway on Aug 26, 2010 2:40 PM EDT up reply actions  

I don’t knock anything he did for the franchise. I honestly think Lindros was the reason this team finally took its heads out of it collective asses. I just think with the wealth of players to choose from that the he might not be a shoe in.

by ic0n67 on Aug 26, 2010 2:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

I agree. Lindros’ 2 biggest problems with his career were an unforeseen glass jaw, and his parents. And I think the Flyers would have worked around the glass jaw until they had no other choice but to cut ties with him before he became a veg if only Carl and Bonnie had stayed home and kept their mouths SHUT!
I’m sorry but I think having your father as your agent is just retarded. There is no objectivity. All parents (and I speak from experience) think their kid is the greatest thing since sliced bread. NOT GOOD when trying to negotiate a contract, the agent should have one thing on his mind…HIS PERCENTAGE! Any outside ties only complicate things.

But I digress…

Cheers,

Fezzy
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...The fans are standing up to them! The security guards are standing up to them! The peanut vendors are standing up to them! And by golly, if I could get down there, I'd be standing up to them!
...Puttin on the Foil since 1969...

by Fezzlekway on Aug 26, 2010 2:48 PM EDT up reply actions  

Clarke, Parent, Fred Shero, & Gene Hart

Cheers,

Fezzy
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...The fans are standing up to them! The security guards are standing up to them! The peanut vendors are standing up to them! And by golly, if I could get down there, I'd be standing up to them!
...Puttin on the Foil since 1969...

by Fezzlekway on Aug 26, 2010 2:28 PM EDT up reply actions  

That works for me.

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by Ben Feldman on Aug 26, 2010 2:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

After the obvious (Clarke, Parent)…there is just a plethora of faces that could adorn that mountain and we could all be proud of the selection (Snider, Barber, Hextall, Brind’Amour, Gagne, Propp, Poulin, Howe, Recchi, Lindros, LeClair, Kerr, etc, etc, etc)

Cheers,

Fezzy
http://fezzysworld.blogspot.com

...The fans are standing up to them! The security guards are standing up to them! The peanut vendors are standing up to them! And by golly, if I could get down there, I'd be standing up to them!
...Puttin on the Foil since 1969...

by Fezzlekway on Aug 26, 2010 2:37 PM EDT up reply actions  

OMG just realized, how can no one have said…RICO?!

Cheers,

Fezzy
http://fezzysworld.blogspot.com

...The fans are standing up to them! The security guards are standing up to them! The peanut vendors are standing up to them! And by golly, if I could get down there, I'd be standing up to them!
...Puttin on the Foil since 1969...

by Fezzlekway on Aug 26, 2010 2:39 PM EDT up reply actions  

The more that I think about it, Snider absolutely needs to go over Shero. Keith Allen is certainly deserving of a mention as well. Still with the team after all these years.

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by Ben Feldman on Aug 26, 2010 2:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

I agree. I think Clarke, Parent, Snider should be in there no matter what. Who the fourth is… there’s at least 5 guys deserving.

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by Geoff Detweiler on Aug 26, 2010 4:54 PM EDT up reply actions  

Lindros is a no brainer.

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by MJDII on Aug 26, 2010 4:56 PM EDT up reply actions  

Agreed. As much as I am still bitter over how all of that turned out, you can’t deny that he was fucking amazing for what he did while he was here and healthy.

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by hintzy64 on Aug 26, 2010 4:58 PM EDT up reply actions  

I wouldn’t use that word, but I do agree.

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by Geoff Detweiler on Aug 26, 2010 4:59 PM EDT up reply actions  

‘AT LEAST’ being the key phrase there…

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by Fezzlekway on Aug 26, 2010 5:01 PM EDT up reply actions  

I am not a fan of the putting non-ice personalities into the series honestly. Especially when you have a history of players like the Flyers have. Plus we need at least one “goon” in the group

by ic0n67 on Aug 26, 2010 2:40 PM EDT up reply actions  

Well then Dave the Hammer is a no brainer.
I would also prefer all players, but Snider, Shero, and Hart meant so much to this franchise, I think especially so with regards to Gene…

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by Fezzlekway on Aug 26, 2010 2:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

If you were doing this for the Phillies, you wouldn’t include Harry?

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by Ben Feldman on Aug 26, 2010 2:48 PM EDT up reply actions  

Absolutely…Schmidt,Carlton, & Harry the K would be ‘givens’
After that it would be tough…JRoll, Schilling, Tug McGraw, Robin Roberts, Whitey, Utley? Where do you go next?

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by Fezzlekway on Aug 26, 2010 2:51 PM EDT up reply actions  

Whitey with Roberts, Bunning and Tugger as kinda close seconds.

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by Ben Feldman on Aug 26, 2010 2:53 PM EDT up reply actions  

Richie Ashburn is a given too, probably THE given of the franchise.

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by Ed Van Chimp on Aug 29, 2010 11:18 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yes.

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by Geoff Detweiler on Aug 26, 2010 4:54 PM EDT up reply actions  

Sarcasm? Not Here…

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by Fezzlekway on Aug 26, 2010 5:02 PM EDT up reply actions  

Funniest thing I read all day.

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by MJDII on Aug 26, 2010 4:35 PM EDT up reply actions  

Do I really need to

say who would be my pick?

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by Katchis on Aug 26, 2010 2:14 PM EDT up reply actions  

It's up now...

Clarke, Parent, Hextall, Lindros.

I think the selections are pretty damn good.

by Phalange on Aug 26, 2010 3:19 PM EDT up reply actions  

Agreed, I love the choices. Good explanations for them, too. Makes me more proud than I already am to be a fan of this team (and of Hextall).

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by hintzy64 on Aug 26, 2010 4:34 PM EDT up reply actions  

Also love that they pictured Bernie with his mask on, just as he is best known.

And Hextall with his mask off, just as he is best known.

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by hintzy64 on Aug 26, 2010 4:40 PM EDT up reply actions  

Hexy was…is…and ALWAYS will be…Da Man!

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by Fezzlekway on Aug 26, 2010 5:03 PM EDT up reply actions  

:-D

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by hintzy64 on Aug 26, 2010 5:08 PM EDT up reply actions  

Didn’t realize Niclas Bergfors is still an RFA with Atlanta. 21+23 for 44 points in his first full NHL season between the Devils and Thrashers, and the two sides are apparently not close. If the Flyers had cap space, I’d go after him…

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by Ben Feldman on Aug 26, 2010 1:59 PM EDT reply actions  

I hear Carey Price is still an RFA. And Bobby Ryan. And Marc Staal. And Sam Gagner. And Martin Hanzal. And James Neal. And…

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by Geoff Detweiler on Aug 26, 2010 2:15 PM EDT up reply actions  

Can we at least get Sam GAGNEr?

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by Katchis on Aug 26, 2010 2:17 PM EDT up reply actions  

I’d love to.

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by Geoff Detweiler on Aug 26, 2010 5:00 PM EDT up reply actions  

If I had to pick on … I’ll take Neal

by ic0n67 on Aug 26, 2010 2:20 PM EDT up reply actions  

Gosh, I read Nicklas Bäckström and was like O_o what? (face palm)

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by Katchis on Aug 26, 2010 2:15 PM EDT up reply actions  

Well. Good timing. Hexy, Bernie, Clarkie and Lindros.

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by Ben Feldman on Aug 26, 2010 3:07 PM EDT reply actions  

Two goalies. How ironic.

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by Katchis on Aug 26, 2010 3:10 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yes, that is interesting, isn’t it…

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by hintzy64 on Aug 26, 2010 4:35 PM EDT up reply actions  

But it also shows what a high bar we have set for what we expect of our goalies. Which is partly why so many have failed since then…

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by hintzy64 on Aug 26, 2010 4:56 PM EDT up reply actions  

That’s what makes it hurt more.

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by doubleh on Aug 26, 2010 6:29 PM EDT up reply actions  

Well I would have gone Barber over Lindros and that was my list so … 3/4 ain’t bad

by ic0n67 on Aug 26, 2010 3:14 PM EDT up reply actions  

And I would have gone with Snider over Hexy. How do you not include him?

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by Ben Feldman on Aug 26, 2010 3:16 PM EDT up reply actions  

focusing on the on-ice people

by ic0n67 on Aug 26, 2010 3:21 PM EDT up reply actions  

Agreed!

That would be my only change.

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by MJDII on Aug 26, 2010 4:32 PM EDT up reply actions  

I am 1,000,000% against removing Hexy. :-p

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by hintzy64 on Aug 26, 2010 4:35 PM EDT up reply actions  

Unfortunately so was Mike Keenan.

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by MJDII on Aug 26, 2010 4:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

Ouch.

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by hintzy64 on Aug 26, 2010 4:38 PM EDT up reply actions  

I like this list, honestly. Snider deserves mention, but I can understand the reasoning for those four guys.

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by Travis Hughes on Aug 26, 2010 3:19 PM EDT up reply actions  

It is a hell of a lot better one than the Rangers one

by ic0n67 on Aug 26, 2010 3:22 PM EDT up reply actions  

Snider over Hexy is the only change.

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by MJDII on Aug 26, 2010 4:38 PM EDT up reply actions  

How about adding Snider as the guy carving the monument?

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by hintzy64 on Aug 26, 2010 4:40 PM EDT up reply actions  

I know a lot of people only want players but one owner for the entire life of a franchise is almost unheard of in the modern history of sports. And despite what Matt P noted Ed Snider is most certainly as recognizable as any of the faces on any all-time list.

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by MJDII on Aug 26, 2010 4:44 PM EDT up reply actions  

Agreed, he is undeniably at the very heart of our franchise, and we wouldn’t exist without him. Which is why I proposed my idea of him carving the monument, he’s the one who built it all. :-p

Lightning strikes once, Hextall strikes twice!

by hintzy64 on Aug 26, 2010 4:47 PM EDT up reply actions  

Exactly. The guy literally created the Flyers. I’d put him in over Hextall, most likely because two goalies for this franchise doesn’t exactly make sense.

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by Geoff Detweiler on Aug 26, 2010 4:56 PM EDT up reply actions  

I guess since I grew up with Hexy as my childhood hero, I am somewhat biased towards including him on there. He was a great goaltender, but also played with such grit and intensity (whereas true goons just fight and aren’t so good at the hockey part), so I think he’s a great example of the prototypical Flyer. And because of that, he’s one of the most recognizable faces from our history to fans from around the league. People down here in Maryland don’t know who Ed Snider is, but they know Hextall.

But I can’t deny that Snider should be on there too. Which is, again, why I’m trying to sneak them both in… ;-)

Lightning strikes once, Hextall strikes twice!

by hintzy64 on Aug 26, 2010 5:07 PM EDT up reply actions  

haha, Trust me, Hextall would be #5 on my list. I completely understand why he’s on there and I’m not even upset that he is.

Matt did a fantastic job.

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by Geoff Detweiler on Aug 26, 2010 6:49 PM EDT up reply actions  

Snider pretty much single-handedly (*sp?) brought hockey to Philly, when everyone told him it would never take hold.

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by Fezzlekway on Aug 26, 2010 5:15 PM EDT up reply actions  

Very well written piece.

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by ToddtheFox on Aug 26, 2010 6:58 PM EDT up reply actions  

Donald Fehr as new interim labor chief

Hi gang, I am just dropping in for a minute…this is first week of classes, so I will be persona non grata until much closer to season start….and I’m of course hanging out occasionally in TGP (why, after this week, I don’t know :-((((().

But I am actually surprised the Fehr appointment has not been a topic yet. I posted about a month ago that this could be a very dark, but possibly inevitable, choice. For those of you non-baseball followers, Don Fehr headed the Major League Baseball Players Association for years, which is not only the most powerful union in sports, it is the most powerful union in all of the United States. I am not joking or exaggerating. With Fehr as the head, we go from total incompetent leadership to Darth Vader in one fell swoop. (Of course, in this case, Bettman would be the Emperor, not Luke Skywalker, even if he is just as short). A Yahoo article pointed out that both Fehr and Bettman have had joneses for work stoppages in the past. Needless to say, another work stoppage would kill the NHL as we know it.

This is one we may need to have on the front burner of our mindsets. Even more than the inscrutable CBA itself.

Raul Ibanez: since Moyer is on the DL, he is fast becoming our favorite old guy.

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by Bud in TN on Aug 26, 2010 4:26 PM EDT reply actions  

Yeah, the road Fehr and Bettman will soon enough be driving down is pretty clear. Oh well. Not much we can do but enjoy the seasons that do take place.

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by Ben Feldman on Aug 26, 2010 4:31 PM EDT up reply actions  

Very good point. But I’m more inclined to follow Ben’s take.

It’s noteworthy, it’s important, it’s worth knowing and remembering. But I’m not going to worry about it for a bit.

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by Geoff Detweiler on Aug 26, 2010 4:58 PM EDT up reply actions  

OT

But I hate the Astros. Like, with the kind of intensity I normally reserve for the Pens. I just can’t grasp why we can beat these NTACs. (some of them have a modicum of talent, but honestly, aside from their semi-decent rotation, we should be kicking their butts)

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by doubleh on Aug 26, 2010 6:37 PM EDT reply actions  

Should say “can’t” beat.

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by doubleh on Aug 26, 2010 6:38 PM EDT up reply actions  

Como se dice en ingles, “NTACs?” No-Talent Ass-Clowns?

I have the answer.

1. They always beat us. What we did to them in April won’t happen again anytime soon. As I said yesterday, Flyers : Islanders :: Astros : Phillies.
2. As if that weren’t bad enough, they have infinity billion ex-Phillies on the roster.
3. As for the Phillies, it’s late August, which seems to be slumpin’ time.

There you go.

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by mikefive on Aug 26, 2010 9:00 PM EDT up reply actions  

And, for what it’s worth, I witnessed James Anthony’s triumphant return firsthand from section 120 last night. Oof.

Do you see what happens when you find a stranger in the Alps?

by mikefive on Aug 26, 2010 9:01 PM EDT up reply actions  

Sorry to read that…I like Happ and all…but now he’s a member of the coven.

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by doubleh on Aug 26, 2010 10:03 PM EDT up reply actions  

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