Monday Morning Fly By: Foreign News
Today's open discussion thread, complete with your daily dose of Philadelphia Flyers news and notes...
- Looking at Stan Bowman's job with the Blackhawks, and his admitting that "We exploited [the salary cap] in a way." [Jewels From The Crown]
- Jakub Kovar let in 3 goals in 60 minutes as he got the loss: [euroflyers]
- Should Maxim Afinogenov been signed in the NHL? I sure wouldn't have minded him on the Flyers third line: [Hockey or Die]
- Joacim Eriksson has new pads: [euroflyers]
- Andrei Popov (D, 2006, 7th Round) centered the 4th line in practice due to late arrivals: [euroflyers]
- Using NHL Equivalencies to look at all the forwards drafted in 2010. (Chaput was left out, but is included in the comments): [The Copper & Blue]
- And then a look at the forwards drafted in 2009 using NHL Equivalencies: [The Copper & Blue]
- Lastly, a great video montage (done by a fan) of the 2010 Boston Bruins: [Puck Daddy]
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That Bruins video is great. Just missing the last four games of that one playoff series…
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Geoff
I really think you should have added to the bulleted list of discussion topics the absence of Travis Hughes from the BSH roller hockey game yesterday. It really effects our online community and its leadership direction. Where do we move on from here? ;-)
Just Call Me "M"!
No
Man-crushin' on Boucher since 1999
Broad Street Hockey - Makin' it look mean since 1967.
by Geoff Detweiler on Aug 9, 2010 11:04 AM EDT up reply actions
Correct.
Sorry, I forgot to get actual pictures from Travis, so Guenin wasn’t pre-meditated.
Man-crushin' on Boucher since 1999
Broad Street Hockey - Makin' it look mean since 1967.
by Geoff Detweiler on Aug 9, 2010 11:58 AM EDT up reply actions
I found an interesting stat on Afinogenov, especially if you already think he went to the southeast because of it’s easier level of competition. In the 27 games after Kovy left Atlanta, Afinogenov only had 7 goals. If you spread that production over the season he would have been a sub 20 goal scorer even in Atlanta and the Southeast.
Wheel of Location, Turn Turn Turn. Tell us the location that we will play.
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Yet his QualComp was still higher than players like Carter, Briere, and Hartnell. And all of those players also had easier zone starts than Max did. Granted that was for the entire season, not post Kovie. But still, I think one of the points of that article was that Max was used improperly as their top line guy. He also played against the toughest comp out of any forward on their team, which isn’t a role he should really be put in. He’d be a great 3rd line guy , getting more Ozone starts, and playing lesser comp on a good team. The problem is, he couldn’t find a long term deal for that role.
His level of competition was an issue, but not b/c he played against weak opponents, but rather b/c he played some of the toughest competition on the Thrashers, which really doesn’t suit his game well.
Is this the right room for an argument?
Oh god, I hadn’t heard that Wayne Stephenson passed away on Thursday. That sucks so much. Deep condolences.
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Wait, he actually passed away on June 22? Why didn’t we know until just recently?
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Thanks. Wish I wasn’t in Bumblefuck, PA last week so I could have contributed to that.
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I only have one question...
… is it October yet?
I love the Lightning AND the Flyers... go ahead, preach me!
Dare to follow my childish, biased, petty and cheesy alter ego.
American Cheese, B!tch! ... #1 mission? Kill Holmgren.
In the words of Green Day...
Wake me up when September ends.
Lightning strikes once, Hextall strikes twice!
is your post complete with Broadway-inspired dancing and singing?
"Call me dumb, call me stupid, whatever. I block shots."
Yes.

I know you meant the American Idiot musical, but I felt compelled to go Spamalot.
Sir Robin: I too have found my grail.
Ensemble: What’s that?
Sir Robin: Musical theatre!
Lightning strikes once, Hextall strikes twice!
Awesome!!
I haven’t seen that one but I really want to. Monty Python and the Holy Grail is one of my favorites!
#1 Flyers Fan in New York
Good bye #12, you will always bleed Orange and Black.
In the mean time, check back around 2pm for some interesting news. I have been sworn to secrecy until then.
Paul Holmgren reveals that he and Jeff Carter share the same favorite color.
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Paul Holmgren reveals that he will, in fact, become SAUL Holmgren, and will openly persecute the Flyers from here on out.
You know, instead of ostensibly trying to help them.
Do you see what happens when you find a stranger in the Alps?
Alternately: Michael Leighton removes his “Michael Leighton” mask and reveals himself to be Roy Halladay, thus explaining why he was so readily available in December, AND why he will be here for the next two years.
There really IS no “Michael Leighton.”
Do you see what happens when you find a stranger in the Alps?
Alternate alternately: Brian Boucher removes his “Brian Boucher” mask and reveals himself to be Cole Hamels. He then asks if he can get some offensive support from either of his teams.
Honor is no substitute for victory.
And reveals that the thing in his backpack was actually Roman Cechmanek’s unibrow. He won it in a bet to see who could get Bill Barber fired first.
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haha, very nice.
Man-crushin' on Boucher since 1999
Broad Street Hockey - Makin' it look mean since 1967.
by Geoff Detweiler on Aug 9, 2010 1:37 PM EDT up reply actions
Riley Cote just announced he is retiring and will become an assistant coach with the Phantoms.
…Huh.
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Breaking—Arbitrator rules in League’s favor in Kovalchuk case, source says. #NHL
That would be something.
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Hearing the grievance denied.
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Kovalchuk remains UFA. Confirmed by sources.
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Got confirmation from a league source that the arbitrator ruled in favor of the NHL in the Kovalchuk case.
That’s now three people from three completely separate organizations saying the same thing.
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Statement of sorts from NHL.com...
Ilya Kovalchuk is once again an unrestricted free agent as systems arbitrator Richard Bloch has determined the NHL was within its legal right to reject the 17-year, $102 million contract Kovalchuk signed with the New Jersey Devils in July.
Bloch heard arguments from both the NHL and the NHL Players’ Association, which filed a grievance on Kovalchuk’s behalf, over two days in Boston last week. His decision came late Monday afternoon. As a result of Bloch’s ruling, Kovalchuk immediately returns to unrestricted free agent status.
Upon announcing the contract was rejected, NHL Deputy Commissioner said the League would not approve it because it was a “circumvention of the Collective Bargaining Agreement.”
Daly released the following statement with regard to the decision by Bloch that the League properly rejected the contract agreed to by the New Jersey Devils and Ilya Kovalchuk:
“We want to thank Arbitrator Bloch for his prompt resolution of a complex issue. His ruling is consistent with the League’s view of the manner in which the Collective Bargaining Agreement should deal with contracts that circumvent the Salary Cap.”
The Devils can choose to re-work the contract in hopes of getting it approved, or Kovalchuk could look elsewhere. Los Angeles reportedly had an offer for 15 years and $80 million on the table before Kovalchuk agreed to re-sign with New Jersey.
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Maxim
Afinegenov on the third line this guy is stupid. How can you have a lazy offensive minded player on your third line. The only way a guy like that works is on a top line and he still wont be a + player
Am I “this guy”?
Is that sarcasm, as Todd so rightly pointed out?
I’m so confused!
Man-crushin' on Boucher since 1999
Broad Street Hockey - Makin' it look mean since 1967.
by Geoff Detweiler on Aug 9, 2010 10:32 PM EDT up reply actions
I think in this scenario, you're playing the part of Afinegenov.
How can you have a lazy offensive minded player on your third line?
I am so tempted to go there.
Backing Backlund for 2010-2011
Mourning Gagne forever.
I think I’m that guy, and it was a response to my comment above, and he just had a reply fail.
But clearly I[‘m just being stupid as he said, I’m glad someone finally cleared that up for me. I’m going to just ignore stats and facts and start talking in generalities now to make my points, clearly this will help me be less of an idiot.
Is this the right room for an argument?
Should we be concerned about the Pronger deal?
Arbitrator ruling looks at Hossa, other deals; Kovy ‘escape’ route
Backing Backlund for 2010-2011
Mourning Gagne forever.
I think we might be safe for now on the Pronger deal, since the arbitrator’s decision was based more on the “effect of circumventing the cap”, rather than definitively stating they had the “intent to circumvent”. If they didn’t even manage to prove intent for Kovy and Lou, there’s really no way they can pin intent on Prongs and Homer. And since the 35+ provision prevents Pronger’s contract from actually having the “effect of circumventing”, we should be alright. If it wasn’t 35+ we might have to worry, but we’re stuck with it either way so why bother with punishment if we didn’t get any benefits? The Luongo, Hossa, et all deals can still be hit with the “effect of circumventing” bit, so they might have more to worry about. But the whole decision sounded very much like a slap on the wrist, and if those other contracts are reopened they wouldn’t have much of a case for punishing those deals unless they hand out a legit punishment to Lou and Kovy. It’s clearly, and repeatedly, mentioned that Kovy’s deal is far more extreme than the others, and that the degree to which the loophole was exploited held weight in the final decision.
The only danger we’ll have is if we try to use the LTIR loophole at the end of the contract. There’s no limit on how far into the contract it can be investigated, so if LTIR is used in a situation that’s remotely questionable, they can still re-open the investigation of cap-circumvention at that time.
The main takeaway here, for me, is a higher possibility of a 2012 CBA negotiation stalemate. And since the Phantoms are in Glens Falls now, I’m not sure I can handle another one!
by DragonGirl0583 on Aug 10, 2010 12:44 AM EDT up reply actions

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