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Thursday Morning Fly By: Dig Out or Curl Up

Today's open discussion thread, complete with your daily dose of Philadelphia Flyers news and notes...

  • The Phantoms beat the Senators last night, receiving three goals from their fourth line. Andrew Rowe and Luke Pither scored in the final 5 minutes to turn a 3-2 deficit into a 4-3 win. Recap: [PostStar.com] Notes & Quotes: [PostStar.com] Live Blog: [PostStar.com]
  • Claude Giroux and Danny Briere are preparing for possibly facing off against each other. [NHL.com]
  • Giroux just doesn't want to be picked last: [Daily News]
  • Tim Panaccio reflects on the season so far and wonders what's ahead: [HockeyBuzz.com]
  • More Power Rankings, but Tampa and Nashville finally move up in these: [SB Nation Philly]
  • Andrei Popov logged a season high 21:46 while Joonas Lehtivuori received 18 minutes: [euroflyers]
  • Frank Seravalli will be having a live chat at noon today, so give the man something to do during the Break: [Frequent Flyers]
  • Lastly, a story titled "Homer's Odyssey" covers Holmgren's time in the organization, including a quote from the GM saying "We had a lot of really good pieces in place" when he took over. [Philadelphia Flyers]

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More snow!

Laperriere is my hero
Carcillo's my lover
Bobrovsky's my savior
Hockeys my life

by Cillo stache on Jan 27, 2011 8:56 AM EST reply actions  

Don’t ever buy a rear wheel drive car!

I'm kind of a dick.

by Vansteel on Jan 27, 2011 8:59 AM EST up reply actions  

It’s not the vehicle, it’s the operator.

by mtitanic on Jan 27, 2011 11:25 AM EST up reply actions  

Truth. My old RWD ‘69 BMW is far better in snow than my FWD ’97 Jetta. Of course, the BMW is in show condition now, so it’ll never see the road in anything less than dry, sunny conditions. The Jetta managed to get me home last night, but it was a struggle.

Lightning strikes once, Hextall strikes twice!

by hintzy64 on Jan 27, 2011 1:14 PM EST up reply actions  

Hah, funny this has come up again. My first car was RWD, my second AWD, and my current is FWD (GTI). The GTI being FWD didn’t bother me much until we got our first good snowfall, and I remembered why I hadn’t bought a FWD car beforehand.

Never again will I get anything other than RWD. Not despite Connecticut winters, but because of them. Just easier to drive, if you ask me (even if it can be harder to get going sometimes; my RWD car went through a few New England winters with summer tires, and somehow I managed).

by CTFlyer on Jan 27, 2011 4:31 PM EST up reply actions  

It’s funny because so many people swear by FWD and claim that RWD is terrible in snow, where my experience (and yours) was the exact opposite. I know there are MANY more elements to the equation though. Honestly, my Jetta actually did quite respectably, all things considered, with the exception of climbing hills. It just couldn’t do it. But it is still infinitely better than the FWD Chevy Corsica I had in high school. That thing was completely impossible to drive in the snow.

One thing’s for sure, I definitely prefer manual to automatic. I tried to move my wife’s Corolla last night (to get it away from the damaged tree I posted pictures of below) and was at a loss when it got stuck because I couldn’t rock it with the clutch like I can do with a manual. It was extremely frustrating…

Lightning strikes once, Hextall strikes twice!

by hintzy64 on Jan 27, 2011 5:43 PM EST up reply actions  

I have a FWD car with snow tires on it right now and the tires have saved me a few times this week. Also, I love driving a standard especially in the snow.

by JLS89 on Jan 27, 2011 6:05 PM EST up reply actions  

Yeah, snow tires are key no matter whether you have FWD, RWD, or even AWD. And I refuse to drive anything that isn’t stick.

by CTFlyer on Jan 27, 2011 7:23 PM EST up reply actions  

I implore you to give my IS300 a shot then. Trust me, Mario Andretti couldn’t make it 200 ft in snow in my car. I even have a button the says “SNOW”, but it doesn’t help

I'm kind of a dick.

by Vansteel on Jan 27, 2011 6:12 PM EST up reply actions  

It’s the electronics (traction control, stability control, etc.). I was heading home one night in my GTI (which is the first car I’ve had with traction control or stability control), and heading up a hill, the car detected slippage, and started killing power to the wheels, no matter what I did with the throttle. Turning off the traction control helped some, but the stability control can’t be turned off completely, nor can the piss-poor substitute for a limited slip differential (the stupid friggin’ “e-differential” that smokes your front brakes).

Lexus and Toyota in particular make it very difficult, if not impossible, to turn the electronic babysitters off. They’ll kill you in the snow everytime. I’ll never get a car where I can’t turn them completely off again either…

by CTFlyer on Jan 27, 2011 7:27 PM EST up reply actions  

Yeah, it’s a trade off….I can’t go anywhere in the snow, but I have never once had a single problem with my Lexus. I drive a ton for work, have 140,000 miles on it, and honestly, have never once had an issue mechanically. I do the little things myself, change all the fluids regularly, but that’s it. So I’ll take it, I guess…..

I'm kind of a dick.

by Vansteel on Jan 27, 2011 10:57 PM EST up reply actions  

I’m sick of shoveling the driveway, I just did this yesterday.

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by DLJr on Jan 27, 2011 9:00 AM EST reply actions  

I didnt shovel yesterday because I knew this was coming. But alas I have no idea how the hell Im going to get to school because my street isn’t even plowed.

Samesis

by JpH89 on Jan 27, 2011 9:05 AM EST up reply actions  

I did that last year and regretted not taking the first layer off when I had the chance. However, I knew it was coming, I wanted to be lazy and not do it, but Jenn had company coming, so I had to clear the driveway for her.

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by DLJr on Jan 27, 2011 9:09 AM EST up reply actions  

Yeah, I think if you didn’t shovel yesterday, you might be in trouble because the second wave yesterday was sleet. It’s ridiculous how much snow we have here in the ’burbs.

Aristotle was not Belgian, the principle of Buddhism is not "every man for himself", and the London Underground is not a political movement.

by doubleh on Jan 27, 2011 9:37 AM EST up reply actions  

Yeah I’m actually happy since the base layer probably would have been ice.

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by DLJr on Jan 27, 2011 9:43 AM EST up reply actions  

My husband is screaming obscenities because our plow is basically worthless right now because the snow is so heavy and there’s no where to push the damn stuff.

Aristotle was not Belgian, the principle of Buddhism is not "every man for himself", and the London Underground is not a political movement.

by doubleh on Jan 27, 2011 9:52 AM EST up reply actions  

You guys have your own plow? lucky, my street isnt even plowed yet.

Samesis

by JpH89 on Jan 27, 2011 9:53 AM EST up reply actions  

Well, it’s pretty worthless right now as I said—but out here in the sticks, with the big driveway we have, we needed it. It’s just a tractor with a plow attachment, nothing fancy. My Dad has an actual plow because he lives up in the mountains.

Aristotle was not Belgian, the principle of Buddhism is not "every man for himself", and the London Underground is not a political movement.

by doubleh on Jan 27, 2011 10:21 AM EST up reply actions  

Yeah I’m not looking forward to going out there.

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by DLJr on Jan 27, 2011 9:54 AM EST up reply actions  

Same here. I have to shovel my sidewalks for my Mom. It’s going to be a bitch. Especially if the neighbor is out because he’s a busy body.

Flyers Fans: We've survived Lock-outs, Lindros and Cooperalls. If you want to get rid of us, you'll have to split an atom or two.

by KreiderDesigns on Jan 27, 2011 9:56 AM EST up reply actions  

You still have school today? We have a snow day in Connecticut. There really is no more room for the snow right now. I want to go out, but the street isn’t plowed yet either

by JLS89 on Jan 27, 2011 1:00 PM EST up reply actions  

Puck Daddy has a article today about the odd of teams winning the cup this year. They have the Penguins winning.

by midwestflyers on Jan 27, 2011 9:20 AM EST reply actions  

Vegas also had the Cowboys and Jets to play in the superbowl. Vegas odds are a popularity thing, not a real estimate of how good teams are.

Samesis

by JpH89 on Jan 27, 2011 9:29 AM EST up reply actions  

They do crunch the numbers a bit better than that. Before the season, they have close to zero sample size, so it’s mostly driven by the public.

Might be the case in this one, too. Although, having the Pens to win it all is not a bad wager, by any stretch.

by Snevik on Jan 27, 2011 10:39 AM EST up reply actions  

Vegas odds are designed to get money on either side, so the lines are indicative of what the public thinks, not what the “sharps” think. That’s how they make money. The Pens and Caps get all the press on ESPN, so they get people betting on them. I’d bet that the Rangers, Blackhawks, Kings, and Stars have odds that aren’t indicative of their record as well due to the ESPN family of city hyping.

Defending Carter until 2021...

by Pardini36 on Jan 27, 2011 12:14 PM EST up reply actions  

So, you’re agreeing with me, right?

by Snevik on Jan 27, 2011 12:23 PM EST up reply actions  

They crunch numbers, but only on how to get people to bet equally on either side. The Pens get the bets of Steelers’ fans. SO..yes and no.

Defending Carter until 2021...

by Pardini36 on Jan 27, 2011 12:48 PM EST up reply actions  

If things don’t pick up I’m going to end up reading Eck’s site out of boredom.

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by DLJr on Jan 27, 2011 9:22 AM EST reply actions  

I haven’t read any of the links, but if you have can you tell me if Geoff’s headline makes any sense?

Flyers Fans: We've survived Lock-outs, Lindros and Cooperalls. If you want to get rid of us, you'll have to split an atom or two.

by KreiderDesigns on Jan 27, 2011 9:26 AM EST up reply actions  

Philly is snowed in….

Formerly... "You don't have to be sweet, to be good"

by Ed Van Chimp on Jan 27, 2011 9:31 AM EST up reply actions  

Yeah, I’ve already facepalmed….can we please move on?

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by KreiderDesigns on Jan 27, 2011 9:36 AM EST up reply actions  

If you lived here, it would make sense.

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by DLJr on Jan 27, 2011 9:31 AM EST up reply actions  

Wow…it’s early and I was trying to start a discussion for/with you about how terrible Geoff’s headlines usually are, didn’t even think of the snow.

Flyers Fans: We've survived Lock-outs, Lindros and Cooperalls. If you want to get rid of us, you'll have to split an atom or two.

by KreiderDesigns on Jan 27, 2011 9:33 AM EST up reply actions  

I appreciate you wanting to bash Geoff, but I’m actually steaming over this guy that jerked me around over a game used jersey I was tracking down.

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by DLJr on Jan 27, 2011 9:43 AM EST up reply actions  

What jersey?

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by KreiderDesigns on Jan 27, 2011 9:44 AM EST up reply actions  

St. Cloud State game worn Nodl jersey.

There is a guy that has a ton of college game worn jerseys, particularly from the WCHA, and he had a picture of it on his site. I found out he traded it to some, that guy then sold it on ebay. I found the listing and the buyer, and asked him if he had interest in selling it. He said maybe, he got it for his son, but he could always give his son a regular Flyers jersey instead, so make an offer. Obviously you can see the winning bid on ebay, so I checked it, and what MeiGrey sells Nodl’s Flyers jersey for, and offered him 35% more than what he paid (which is the MeiGrey price for a game worn Nodl Flyers jersey). He said he wasn’t sure what he paid for it, but he remembered paying more than what I offered, so he had to think about it. I showed him the link to the ebay listing, and said I didn’t want to be unfair with the offer, but I wanted to make sure I was offering more than what he had paid. I asked him if the listing was incorrect and if he had a number in mind that he wanted for it (I didn’t want to play the whole game he was trying to get in to). He then decided that he didn’t want to part with it and said he still didn’t remember what he paid for it (this was an ebay listing from December 10th)

So basically, as soon as he realized that I knew exactly what he paid for it, he backed out. The jersey collecting world is pretty fair for the most part, people usually don’t try going to take advantage of each other, most transactions are actually just trading jerseys, but this guys definitely seemed like he was just trying to see if he could get a lot more money for the jersey than he had paid. I wasn’t happy. If you want some ridiculous amount for the jersey, just tell me so I don’t have to go through the hassle of the back and forth.

I have jerseys I wouldn’t part with for anything, and I tell people that, I don’t jerk them around.

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by DLJr on Jan 27, 2011 9:53 AM EST up reply actions  

This was all done over several emails obviously.

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by DLJr on Jan 27, 2011 9:55 AM EST up reply actions  

I thought you had a Nodl st cloud jersey already?

Samesis

by JpH89 on Jan 27, 2011 9:55 AM EST up reply actions  

I do, it isn’t game worn.

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by DLJr on Jan 27, 2011 9:55 AM EST up reply actions  

ahhh

And do you know a site that sells KHL jerseys? I don’t need a name just a blank.

Samesis

by JpH89 on Jan 27, 2011 9:58 AM EST up reply actions  

You just want any KHL jersey, not game worn?

Most of the stuff I deal with is game worn jerseys, they aren’t expensive either.

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by DLJr on Jan 27, 2011 9:59 AM EST up reply actions  

well i want to wear it too. I don’t want to wear something that some guy sweat, bleed, and spit on haha.

Samesis

by JpH89 on Jan 27, 2011 10:01 AM EST up reply actions  

You know, you can wash them. I washed the Estonia one twice, that thing had some kind of funk on it.
So, no I don’t know any sites for new ones, but I think they are easy to find via a google search.

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by DLJr on Jan 27, 2011 10:03 AM EST up reply actions  

And also, just because i love international hockey, there is a KHL app for the iPad, its all Russian now but they said the next update in February will make it English and French.

Samesis

by JpH89 on Jan 27, 2011 10:11 AM EST up reply actions  

I found my Kharlamov and my Tretiak jersey on ebay…

Defending Carter until 2021...

by Pardini36 on Jan 27, 2011 12:17 PM EST up reply actions  

If you want national team jerseys, let me know, if it’s just European League jerseys, I also have a few sites.

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by DLJr on Jan 27, 2011 12:24 PM EST up reply actions  

I want an official Keith Jones game-worn suit.

"Darroll can't see it, blind to the eyes;
He came up in your face OOPS POWE SURPRISE!"
Man-crushin' on #36 since he hit his "absolute ceiling" as a rookie in 2008.

by mikefive on Jan 27, 2011 12:16 PM EST up reply actions  

It’s been far too long since I got a new jersey (I’m not counting the $30 one I bought at Marshalls because that was a cheap thing with no name or number on it.)

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by KreiderDesigns on Jan 27, 2011 9:58 AM EST up reply actions  

That’s lame. What a jerk.

Flyers Fans: We've survived Lock-outs, Lindros and Cooperalls. If you want to get rid of us, you'll have to split an atom or two.

by KreiderDesigns on Jan 27, 2011 9:55 AM EST up reply actions  

Yeah, it just became obvious that he wanted a lot for it, which is fine, but don’t pretend like you still don’t know what you paid for it when I have the link right there for you. The back and forth just sucked because in the first couple emails he seemed completely up for selling it, so I thought I had finally found one.

I’ve been on the hunt for one for a while, I guess I missed my window with the ebay listing. I’m also searching for a Nodl game used Austria jersey (if one even exists).

Oh, I did find a Kapanen game used Kalpa jersey…I don’t think it is selling for too much. If you are interested I can send you the link.

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by DLJr on Jan 27, 2011 9:58 AM EST up reply actions  

Thanks but no thanks. I think I either want a Finland Olympic jersey from like Nagano or maybe a Leino Jokerit jersey. Kalpa jerseys are so ugly, I don’t really like them at all.

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by KreiderDesigns on Jan 27, 2011 10:00 AM EST up reply actions  

Just figured you loved Sami, so when I came across it, I thought of you.

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by DLJr on Jan 27, 2011 10:04 AM EST up reply actions  

I do love Sami, he’s up on there on my all-time list. Unfortunately for him his team’s ugly ass jerseys preclude me from buying one. Unless I go there, then all bets are off.

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by KreiderDesigns on Jan 27, 2011 10:05 AM EST up reply actions  

haha fair enough

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by DLJr on Jan 27, 2011 10:06 AM EST up reply actions  

Yeah the one I want is like this one or the darks of this one. Also, I know everyone thinks I’m crazy but I really want this too.

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by KreiderDesigns on Jan 27, 2011 10:11 AM EST up reply actions  

"I appreciate you wanting to bash Geoff"

A little early in the day for that, no? He’s not even on to defend himself yet. Although I guess the headline would dovetail the snow with Geoff curled up in a fetal position over Matt Calvert being sent down. But like he says, that’s only temporary.

by mtitanic on Jan 27, 2011 11:32 AM EST up reply actions  

haha, I’m up but I’m being productive at home.

Shaun just needs to bash me to feel better about himself. Besides, what the hell could a headline be when there’s nothing interesting in the links?

Man-crushin' on Boucher since 1999
Broad Street Hockey - Makin' it look mean since 1967.
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by Geoff Detweiler on Jan 27, 2011 11:53 AM EST up reply actions  

You usually pull some random shit. I had been awake for like 3 minutes and for some reason when I read dig out I went to bug out and thought military or moving somewhere. So serves me right for trying to give Don something to talk about like he asked.

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by KreiderDesigns on Jan 27, 2011 11:58 AM EST up reply actions  

If you knew Geoff, you’d realize it’s never too early. Also, we didn’t bash him.

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by DLJr on Jan 27, 2011 11:55 AM EST up reply actions  

No, not you, just Shaun.

by mtitanic on Jan 27, 2011 11:56 AM EST up reply actions  

Still, if you knew Geoff personally, you’d say we were late. Trust me.

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by DLJr on Jan 27, 2011 11:57 AM EST up reply actions  

Ha ha, I will have to meet you guys sometime. Maybe someday I can get to a game in person. The last Flyers game I attended was when they wore Cooperalls.

by mtitanic on Jan 27, 2011 11:58 AM EST up reply actions  

Come to our games, they’re cheaper and more fun. You play ice? roller?

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by KreiderDesigns on Jan 27, 2011 11:59 AM EST up reply actions  

Yeah, but not for some time now. But when I own and operate my own business over 900 miles away, it would not be possible. Going to a game may be, if I plan my travel properly. I still have an interest in the family farm there.

by mtitanic on Jan 27, 2011 12:03 PM EST up reply actions  

Why, Don? Why?

I’m not the one who made you shovel your driveway twice in less than 24 hours, nor am I the one who effectively forced you from your own home last night.

Don’t take your anger out on me.

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by Geoff Detweiler on Jan 27, 2011 12:13 PM EST up reply actions  

Haha, actually last night was awesome.

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by DLJr on Jan 27, 2011 12:24 PM EST up reply actions  

I didn’t bash him, I was confused and not awake.

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by KreiderDesigns on Jan 27, 2011 11:58 AM EST up reply actions  

Guardian watch...

The Ranger rides a bike made of space trash. If he loses the bike he’s kind of ok.

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by KreiderDesigns on Jan 27, 2011 9:34 AM EST reply actions  

Also he apparently has no powers just access to weapons?

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by KreiderDesigns on Jan 27, 2011 9:35 AM EST up reply actions  

so its Batman?

Samesis

by JpH89 on Jan 27, 2011 9:36 AM EST up reply actions  

If Batman sucked. They don’t even really show any weapons.

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by KreiderDesigns on Jan 27, 2011 9:38 AM EST up reply actions  

Yeah, it’s really weird how they don’t mention a single power, weapon, or anything except that he never sleeps. (Is that his super power? He’s the night watchman who wakes up the real heroes when something bad is happening?)

Everyone else has two or three powers (cryokinesis! a state flag made of astral plasma to cocoon his victims!) and the Ranger has none. I wonder what that’s supposed to tell us.

P.S. Why does his wheel-less flying contraption have a spare tire?

by Eric T. on Jan 27, 2011 10:35 AM EST up reply actions  

I guess because he’s from the “city that never sleeps”?

Lame.

Aristotle was not Belgian, the principle of Buddhism is not "every man for himself", and the London Underground is not a political movement.

by doubleh on Jan 27, 2011 10:40 AM EST up reply actions  

It’s fine if that’s just one of his personality attributes, like the Coyote being a drifter who wanders the desert when he’s not busy fighting supervillains. But if that’s his only power? Yes, that’s lame.

by Eric T. on Jan 27, 2011 10:49 AM EST up reply actions  

It’s the propulsion system from what i can tell. Like a hovercraft has the big inflatable ring around it, I think it’s a thruster to lift the bike of the ground?

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by KreiderDesigns on Jan 27, 2011 11:09 AM EST up reply actions  

Yeah, I know it’s a thruster, but why is it a freaking tire? I guess the hovercraft analogy makes sense, especially in the context of it being a bike he built out of space junk.

by Eric T. on Jan 27, 2011 11:13 AM EST up reply actions  

Yeah, I don’t get why it’s a tire either. Unless he’s got a advertising deal with Michelin or something. I wouldn’t put it by the Rag.

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by KreiderDesigns on Jan 27, 2011 11:14 AM EST up reply actions  

Ugh, I rode on the hovercraft from Dover to Calais. I don’t normally get sea sick but that ride was so choppy that even I felt a tinge of nausea.

Aristotle was not Belgian, the principle of Buddhism is not "every man for himself", and the London Underground is not a political movement.

by doubleh on Jan 27, 2011 11:16 AM EST up reply actions  

You can find him in Neighborhood joints?

Man, smoke that guy.

Defending Carter until 2021...

by Pardini36 on Jan 27, 2011 12:18 PM EST up reply actions  

Was it full of eels?

Lightning strikes once, Hextall strikes twice!

by hintzy64 on Jan 27, 2011 1:22 PM EST up reply actions  

LOL. Screaming ones.

Aristotle was not Belgian, the principle of Buddhism is not "every man for himself", and the London Underground is not a political movement.

by doubleh on Jan 27, 2011 1:23 PM EST up reply actions  

Just noticed his license plate : IAMRNGR

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by KreiderDesigns on Jan 27, 2011 9:39 AM EST up reply actions  

*IMARNGR

Not sure if that’s better or worse

by Eric T. on Jan 27, 2011 10:29 AM EST up reply actions  

You’re right too. This implies he’s not the only one.

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by KreiderDesigns on Jan 27, 2011 11:10 AM EST up reply actions  

Well, he’s not the only Ranger. Derek Boogaard and Sean Avery will be at his side.

by Eric T. on Jan 27, 2011 11:14 AM EST up reply actions  

You’re right, should have zoomed.

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by KreiderDesigns on Jan 27, 2011 11:09 AM EST up reply actions  

It looks like Sean Avery on a hoverbike. I wonder if he works for Vogue

Bob.

by The Dark on Jan 27, 2011 10:10 AM EST up reply actions  

Speaking of Guardians

Can anyone find the 6 logo on the Red Wing? He’s the only original six guy I don’t see it on.

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by KreiderDesigns on Jan 27, 2011 11:12 AM EST up reply actions  

I don’t see it either, but

He’s not much for reacting and improvising is not his strength but thankfully his attention to detail means that there is rarely a contingency that he hasn’t accounted for.

I’m sure he has a plan for getting one.

by Eric T. on Jan 27, 2011 11:21 AM EST up reply actions  

I can’t imagine driving around with a pole off your left arm and a shield on your right is very comfortable or aerodynamic…specifically when flying around on the gun turret from the Millenium Falcon.

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by Pardini36 on Jan 27, 2011 12:29 PM EST up reply actions  

“Homer’s Oddeysey” is an awesome description of Holmgren

by ohmanwtf on Jan 27, 2011 9:39 AM EST reply actions  

With Ian Laperriere likely sidelined for the season with injuries, the Flyers are making use of the popular player as a scout. Laperriere has expressed interest in staying in hockey, either as a scout or coach.

"He’s watching the young kids we’ve draft, and he’s watching the Phantoms," Holmgren said. "He worked out with some of the Phantoms (prior to this season). He’s gung ho about helping out. Keeping a colorful character like `Lappy’ involved in the game is a good thing."

That is awesome.

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by Ed Van Chimp on Jan 27, 2011 9:49 AM EST reply actions  

That is awesome.

by ww2b on Jan 27, 2011 11:29 AM EST up reply actions  

I concur

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by hintzy64 on Jan 27, 2011 1:23 PM EST up reply actions  

I definitely concur.

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by Chemistry66 on Jan 28, 2011 4:15 AM EST up reply actions  

Sorry if this is old news but Tim Panaccio said that the Flyers might want to get Eric Cole, should we even get him & if we do what would we give up for him?

by The Legend on Jan 27, 2011 10:05 AM EST reply actions  

Nodl + Walker for Cole

by McNabbSoup on Jan 27, 2011 10:11 AM EST up reply actions  

I think the cap hit doesn’t work for that. Would put us about 400K over, for a playoff rental. Little chance we could be able to resign him after the season. Nothing against Cole personally, I think he’s a fine player.

by mtitanic on Jan 27, 2011 11:54 AM EST up reply actions  

no

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by Ed Van Chimp on Jan 27, 2011 1:56 PM EST up reply actions  

When was the last time two Flyers goalies were in these positions?
Bobrovsky: 11th in GAA and 14th in SV%
Boucher: 10th in GAA and 20th in SV%

Also, I know this will take a TON of work but I’m really interested to know. When was the last time (if ever) a team was leading the NHL at the All-Star break and didn’t have a shutout on the season? Or at least how long is the longest into the season a team has been tops in the NHL without a shutout?

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by Psy09 on Jan 27, 2011 10:06 AM EST reply actions  

Cechmanek and Esche finished the 2002-03 season 3rd and 25th in SV% and 2nd and 9th in GAA. 58 and 30 GPs, respectively.

It’s actually not hard to research. If you’re saying GAA matters at all, just look for seasons where we finished the season with relatively few GAs.

by Snevik on Jan 27, 2011 10:46 AM EST up reply actions  

For the second part I actually meant for any team in the entire NHL through about 41GP to be leading the NHL in points with no SOs. Or to win the President’s Trophy without a SO.

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by Psy09 on Jan 27, 2011 10:53 AM EST up reply actions  

I’m not in the mood to fully research this, but post-lockout the Capitals had three shutouts, and in ‘06-07 the Sabres had two. Both of them happened to get one early on, but it makes me think it’s probably happened.

by Eric T. on Jan 27, 2011 11:04 AM EST up reply actions  

OK, fine, I did the damn research. ‘86-87 Oilers didn’t have a shutout.

by Eric T. on Jan 27, 2011 11:15 AM EST up reply actions  

Interesting. Thanks Huck. I just wasn’t sure where to look.

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by Psy09 on Jan 27, 2011 11:23 AM EST up reply actions  

The ‘86-87 Oilers didn’t NEED no stinkin’ shutouts.

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by mikefive on Jan 27, 2011 12:20 PM EST up reply actions  

Yea, they were toying with their food by giving it hope.

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by Pardini36 on Jan 27, 2011 12:22 PM EST up reply actions  

Except when they were blowing two goal leads in the Finals.

by Snevik on Jan 27, 2011 12:23 PM EST up reply actions  

Well, that didn’t matter, did it? They won anyway.

Flyers had the lead in game 7 but it didn’t last.

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by mikefive on Jan 27, 2011 12:25 PM EST up reply actions  

To be fair, the ’87 Oilers were the team that made me love hockey. I was only 5 so give me a break here, but watching Gretzky, Messier, Coffey, et al against the Flyers in the finals is my first hockey memory…

Though my dad says when I was really little Lindhberg was my favorite and I always wanted to wear my halloween goalie mask during games.

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by Pardini36 on Jan 27, 2011 12:27 PM EST up reply actions  

Speaking of shutouts, Washington got blanked again last night. Ouch.

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by hintzy64 on Jan 27, 2011 1:25 PM EST up reply actions  

Seventh time this season, apparently. I can only recall the Flyers being shutout once this year, against the Bruins. Not sure if that’s right though.

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by ToddtheFox on Jan 27, 2011 1:39 PM EST up reply actions  

A quick scan of the schedule up on my corkboard says 3. Montreal, Boston and Florida.

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by hintzy64 on Jan 27, 2011 1:41 PM EST up reply actions  

Ha ok. Maybe I just rejected those bad memories.

Mourning Gagne forever.

by ToddtheFox on Jan 27, 2011 1:42 PM EST up reply actions  

That was a good plan.

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by hintzy64 on Jan 27, 2011 1:45 PM EST up reply actions  

Price shut us out once, and as did Vokoun.

by Snevik on Jan 27, 2011 1:41 PM EST up reply actions  

Semin-stain got a one year deal for only $700,000 more then his current contract. He will get $6.7M next season, that a lot of cash for a guy who is basically a slight better Joffrey Lupul.

Samesis

by JpH89 on Jan 27, 2011 10:59 AM EST reply actions  

But he has the potential to be better than Ovechkin. He’s just incredibly lazy.

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by EREX21 on Jan 27, 2011 11:11 AM EST up reply actions  

Again, Joffrey Lupul had the potential to be the best scorer on the Flyers, but hes just incredibly lazy. Semin is a go player, but hes not an almost $7M player by any means. Scoring wise, hes just as good as Carter and Richards, and those two can play D 40 times over Semin. being an elite player for 41 games a year doesnt deserve that kind of money.

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by JpH89 on Jan 27, 2011 11:17 AM EST up reply actions  

If they had any cap room, they have 3 young goalies that would fetch them top notch value too.

Samesis

by JpH89 on Jan 27, 2011 11:30 AM EST up reply actions  

I had wanted the Flyers to trade for Neuvirth last year.

I loved acquiring him in NHL10

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by Geoff Detweiler on Jan 27, 2011 11:55 AM EST up reply actions  

haha same, but Im perfectly fine with Bobs now. I also bet that if Vancouver doesnt go deep in the playoffs, that they’ll trade Luongo.

Samesis

by JpH89 on Jan 27, 2011 11:57 AM EST up reply actions  

I agree about Bob. About Luongo, I don’t believe that at all.

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by Geoff Detweiler on Jan 27, 2011 12:11 PM EST up reply actions  

I dont know, they play Schnider a lot and he has been out performing him too.

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by JpH89 on Jan 27, 2011 12:13 PM EST up reply actions  

Luongo: 38 starts, 23-8-7, 2.27 gaa, 0.924 sv%, 0.932 ESS%
Schneider: 12 starts, 8-2-2, 2.35 gaa, 0.923 sv%, 0.921 ESS%

No, Schneider is not out performing Luongo. Even still, Schneider’s save percentage is inflated due to a highly unsustainable 0.934 save percentage while a man down. No way he keeps that up.

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by Geoff Detweiler on Jan 27, 2011 12:21 PM EST up reply actions  

Good luck finding a suitor for that contact. Especially with the market for goalies being the way it is.

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by Ed Van Chimp on Jan 27, 2011 1:59 PM EST up reply actions  

With a contract like that I don’t know if he can be traded in the next 3-4 years.

by mtitanic on Jan 27, 2011 12:18 PM EST up reply actions  

I’d say he can be traded – who wouldn’t want Luongo? And $5.33 isn’t that expensive. It’s the length (Age 41 when the deal is up) that will scare people away.

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by Geoff Detweiler on Jan 27, 2011 12:23 PM EST up reply actions  

That was my point. Waiting for the cap to inflate in 3-4 years makes it more attractive to others in need. By then 5.33M is doable. And for a shorter period of time.

by mtitanic on Jan 27, 2011 12:25 PM EST up reply actions  

Ah. Didn’t know you were talking about the length.

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by Geoff Detweiler on Jan 27, 2011 12:26 PM EST up reply actions  

Know who else was talking about “the length”?

John Bolaris.

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by mikefive on Jan 27, 2011 12:31 PM EST up reply actions  

hahaha I saw that.

Preston and Steve made a gif about it. Brilliant.

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by Geoff Detweiler on Jan 27, 2011 12:32 PM EST up reply actions  

Long contracts are what drive me up the wall. Such potential for great achievement or (more likely) dismal failure. You’d think the Isles would know better by now.

by mtitanic on Jan 27, 2011 12:32 PM EST up reply actions  

I agree with this, assuming the “40 times over Semin” is hyperbole. I’m not sure what the multiplier is, but surely it isn’t that much.

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by Geoff Detweiler on Jan 27, 2011 11:54 AM EST up reply actions  

They are much better defensive players.

Samesis

by JpH89 on Jan 27, 2011 11:58 AM EST up reply actions  

I agree.

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by Geoff Detweiler on Jan 27, 2011 12:11 PM EST up reply actions  

The Penguins fan who faceplants on a van at the winter classic was just on AOTS. (Yesterday’s episode re-airing today)

“To be fair, getting your face slammed on a molester van is pretty much what it feels like to live in Pittsburgh.”

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by KreiderDesigns on Jan 27, 2011 12:04 PM EST reply actions  

AOTS?

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by Geoff Detweiler on Jan 27, 2011 12:12 PM EST up reply actions  

“Amazing Olsen Twin Sex” I think.

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by JpH89 on Jan 27, 2011 12:17 PM EST up reply actions  

I think we’ve got a good OT topic for the new fanpost.!!!

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by boknows71 on Jan 27, 2011 12:24 PM EST up reply actions  

FTW!

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by Pardini36 on Jan 27, 2011 12:24 PM EST up reply actions  

Attack of the Show

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by KreiderDesigns on Jan 27, 2011 12:33 PM EST up reply actions  

In Seravalli’s chat, he was asked the likelihood that players return.

In order, on scale of 1-10, with 10 being absolute: Zherdev (7), Leino (10), O’Donnell (6), Powe (8.5), Carcillo (7), Nodl (10), Boucher (9).

How the hell is Boucher a 9 out of 10??

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by Geoff Detweiler on Jan 27, 2011 12:28 PM EST reply actions  

So I asked and:

The Flyers are in an interesting situation for next year. Boucher is a UFA. Leighton will have one season left on his deal, and Backlund is on a one-way NHL contract for one year next year. I couldn’t pretend to have the slightest idea as to what they’re going to do. But if Boucher keeps playing like he has, I don’t see how they don’t bring him back, he’d like to stay here I’d imagine.

Needless to say, we disagree.

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by Geoff Detweiler on Jan 27, 2011 12:31 PM EST up reply actions  

I was thinking that since they say he has been good at mentoring BOB they would like to keep him around so he can continue that next season.

by Rhayes on Jan 27, 2011 12:31 PM EST up reply actions  

That’s the only explanation (his play this year, while excellent, is likely a result of luck and the system) I can think of, but if they choose that, they can’t possibly keep Leighton and Backlund.

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by Geoff Detweiler on Jan 27, 2011 12:32 PM EST up reply actions  

yeah i saw your question and then realizing how much the two in the minors are going to make, signing bouch back again for another year or so while just letting those two sitting there doesnt make much sense. So unless one gets traded in the meantime i wont see him being back either

by Rhayes on Jan 27, 2011 12:35 PM EST up reply actions  

Because hes the best backup option on the team and will be less then a $1M and he like Philly. Im surprised Z is a 7.

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by JpH89 on Jan 27, 2011 12:32 PM EST up reply actions  

Then what do you do with the other two goalies on one-way deals?

No way Ed Snider pays a combined $2.4 million for AHL goaltending.

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by Geoff Detweiler on Jan 27, 2011 12:33 PM EST up reply actions  

They could buy out Leighton contract in the offseason right?

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by JpH89 on Jan 27, 2011 12:34 PM EST up reply actions  

No real need, unless he’s willing to take a lot less to be a UFA. In the AHL he doesn’t cost anything, and considering no one wanted him through waivers, why would he take less?

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by Pardini36 on Jan 27, 2011 12:36 PM EST up reply actions  

My thing is that the team cant afford his contract against the cap, especially if we resign Leino.

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by JpH89 on Jan 27, 2011 12:37 PM EST up reply actions  

In the AHL, he doesn’t cost the Flyers but he costs Ed Snider $1.6 million to not help the team.

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by Geoff Detweiler on Jan 27, 2011 12:39 PM EST up reply actions  

Please, the Flyers print money. It’s not like he wons the Penguins where your window to make money is the prime of a superstar. When we were the worst team in the NHL we were 7th in attendance.

  Also, he owns Comcast, which owns Versus…I really don’t think Snider cares about $1.6M if it means fielding a team with a chance to win. I’m excited for the NHL’s new TV deal. Maybe NHL 2Nite will be back…even more Pens/Caps coverage!

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by Pardini36 on Jan 27, 2011 1:00 PM EST up reply actions  

34% interest in Comcast Spectacor, after selling his company (Spectacor, of which he held a 66% stake) to Comcast.

To a certain extent, he’ll take loses to field a team. If Bob ends up being a starter next year, why pay Boucher on top of the 1.6 you’re paying an NHL backup to play in the NHL?

by Snevik on Jan 27, 2011 1:13 PM EST up reply actions  

Thank you.

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by Geoff Detweiler on Jan 27, 2011 2:11 PM EST up reply actions  

Right, because businesses have no problem throwing away money ever.

And he’d be spending $1.6 million on a guy who wouldn’t help them win. Why would Ed Snider pay Michael Leighton that much money to play for a team that Snider doesn’t own?

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by Geoff Detweiler on Jan 27, 2011 2:11 PM EST up reply actions  

Buyouts suck. The Islanders are still paying Yashin against the cap for a buyout.

And why would you buy someone out with only a year left in their deal so you can sign a 34 year old career backup?

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by Geoff Detweiler on Jan 27, 2011 12:38 PM EST up reply actions  

I don’t understand why you of all people don’t seem to want Boosh back. Yes, a career backup (he would be cheap, so not a cap killer); Leighton can still be traded (best possible outcome for the Flyers) or if retained, may play somewhere other than ADK. I mean it’s awfully nice of you to be so concerned about Ed Snider’s profit margin, but Leighton is no Wade Redden. Besides, I see the Bob/Boosh arrangement as one that works well. Why change that if you don’t have to? Or is 34 and over what you object to?

by mtitanic on Jan 27, 2011 12:53 PM EST up reply actions  

Do you really think Geoff does want Boosh back?

by Snevik on Jan 27, 2011 12:54 PM EST up reply actions  

Crap. Doesn’t*

The point is that we’ve locked ourselves into a situation where keeping Boosh probably isn’t feasible.

by Snevik on Jan 27, 2011 12:55 PM EST up reply actions  

I guess there is 2 parts to that: in what manner are we "locked"into something; and, what makes Boosh unfeasible?

by mtitanic on Jan 27, 2011 12:59 PM EST up reply actions  

They have three goaltenders signed to NHL contracts for next year, before Boosh is taken into account. That’s pretty much it.

by Snevik on Jan 27, 2011 1:03 PM EST up reply actions  

I see no NTC/NMC in any of their contracts. I don’t understand the “locked” part. With the rising salary cap, Boosh for 1yr/1M is feasible. Now if the Flyers win the cup on the back of Boosh’s spectacular goaltending this year (and let’s all assume this is a desirable event), then he will command a greater salary and thus I can see how he would not be finacially feasible.

by mtitanic on Jan 27, 2011 1:17 PM EST up reply actions  

I want him back. But no one wanted to pick Leighton up off of waivers, so I doubt he’s tradeable. And I’m not sure you want to move Backlund at under value, or if that’s feasible, either. You’re likely to have at least 2 NHL goalies under roster before signing Boosh. That’s my only point.

Additionally, I think Boosh will want, and will deserve, more than a .25 mil raise. I’m sure if Holmgren wants to do it, he’ll make it work somehow. He’ll just being working his way out of a corner, as always.

by Snevik on Jan 27, 2011 1:23 PM EST up reply actions  

I, too, wish to see him return. I think Leighton may be tradeable under the right circumstances. I certainly do not wish to see Leighton backing up Bob next year. And I’m still unsure of Backlund’s value to the Flyers. Backlund may be of value to others, so I can see how neither of Leighton or Backlund may be back for training camp next year. We’re going to need room for Riopel, Kovar, Morrison, Erickson, hell, maybe even Emery next year or “soon” anyway. So I see Boosh as feasible, especially considering what Homer and the Flyers have done for him to help his career.

by mtitanic on Jan 27, 2011 1:47 PM EST up reply actions  

I hope Leighton is tradeable, but the market has proven that his was a poor contract.

I’m also unsure of Backlund’s value to the Flyers, but so long as Leighton and Boucher are both here, his value is very, very low. This year, his value is probably pretty high ($105,000 AHL salary will do that) but it isn’t next year.

As far as next year goes, Morrison will/should probably be released, Eriksson will/should probably stay in Europe (he expressed a desire to do as much earlier in the season), and there’s no way Emery comes back to the Flyers. Further, Brian Stewart has played as well as, if not better than, Nic Riopel. Neither of them have contracts next season, but only Stewart had an NHL deal this year. In other words, Riopel could easily be let go this summer as well.

So next year’s goaltending depth chart looks like:

  1. Bobrovsky
  2. Leighton/Backlund
  3. Backlund/Leighton
  4. Kovar*
  5. Stewart*/Riopel*

Where does Brian Boucher fit in there? Nowhere. Unless Leighton or Backlund are traded.

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by Geoff Detweiler on Jan 27, 2011 2:28 PM EST up reply actions  

IIRC, Eriksson has a two-year deal in Elitserien, so he should be staying there next year to finish out his contract.

Bob.

by The Dark on Jan 27, 2011 3:46 PM EST up reply actions  

I figured.

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by Geoff Detweiler on Jan 27, 2011 3:59 PM EST up reply actions  

I’m going to referee here:

mtitanic sez: it doesn’t hurt the hockey club at all to keep Leighton and Backlund in the minors and sign Boosh. It improves the goaltending and might even save cap space (if Leighton would have been the NHL backup otherwise). The only downside is on the Flyers’ profit margin, which mtitanic isn’t very worried about.

Geoff and Snevik think the Flyers probably are worried about their profit margin, and that the Flyers probably won’t spend an extra $1M+ for a modest improvement in the backup goalie. (Yes, modest — Boosh’s career ESSv% is 91.0, Leighton’s is 90.8, local fluctuations notwithstanding.)

I think more of this depends on how Bobs finishes the season than you guys are letting on. The 1.6M on Leighton+Backlund is a sunk cost, and the real question will be the marginal cost of Boosh’s contract versus the marginal benefit of having Boosh as a backup. If at the end of the year, they believe Bobs will be a 60+ game starter, then the marginal benefit of a modest improvement at backup goalie isn’t worth much. But if Bobs underwhelms in the second half, then it’s a different story.

by Eric T. on Jan 27, 2011 1:48 PM EST up reply actions  

Even if Bob underwhelms in the second half, I still see no reason to go into next year with four goalies under salary. I’m not sure you can get rid of Leights, but eventually you have to address the Backlund Situation.

by Snevik on Jan 27, 2011 1:51 PM EST up reply actions  

bob hasnt played more then 35 games in a season and he is at 31 right now. So he may wear down at the end of the season only because he hasnt played so many games before.

by Rhayes on Jan 27, 2011 1:54 PM EST up reply actions  

I read the conversation below, and Huck did a great job explaining everyone’s position, but here’s my take:

The Flyers will have Bobrovsky in the NHL next year barring a complete and utter meltdown.

They have Leighton and Backlund signed to one-way deals, meaning they will get paid $1.6 million and $800,000 regardless of where they play.

Jakub Kovar is most likely in his final year as Flyers property, so he could come over and play in the AHL. Nic Riopel is in the same boat. Not sure about Adam Morrison – who is playing very poorly – and Joacim Eriksson will most likely stay in the SEL.

So do the Flyers want to have both their AHL goalies be on NHL deals (Backlund and Leighton) and lose two goaltending prospects (Kovar and Riopel) just to have Boucher as the NHL backup?

I highly, highly doubt it. Which is why I only see Boucher coming back if Leighton or Backlund are moved. One of those three guys are not coming back next year, one of them will be the NHL backup, and the third will be the AHL starter.

Sure, it’d be better to trade Leighton, re-sign Boucher as the backup, and keep Backlund as the starter. But it’d also be better to let Boucher walk, trade Leighton, and have Backlund as the NHL backup – if he’s healthy/regained last year’s form.

But Ed Snider will not want a $2.4 million sunk cost in the AHL. And Paul Holmgren should not make re-signing Boucher worth losing both Jakub Kovar and Nic Riopel. So I reiterate: Until Leighton or Backlund are traded, I do not want Brian Boucher re-signed. It doesn’t make sense for the Flyers or for Ed Snider.

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by Geoff Detweiler on Jan 27, 2011 2:23 PM EST up reply actions  

completely agree even though i would like to see him back here only if to help BOB, i dont want to have leighton and backlund both just sitting around in the AHL doing nadda. And i dont think its easy to trade away either one of them.

by Rhayes on Jan 27, 2011 2:39 PM EST up reply actions  

“Hey, anyone want our third goalie, who is paid more than market value for a #2? How about our fourth goalie, who’s in the last year of his contract and once played an NHL game?”

by Eric T. on Jan 27, 2011 2:40 PM EST up reply actions  

Hm… Maybe Brian Burke? Yeah, they have James Reimer (RFA) and Jonas Gustavsson (under contract), but Burke claimed Leighton in Anaheim (I believe).

Maybe Glen Sather – Marty Biron is UFA.

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by Geoff Detweiler on Jan 27, 2011 2:54 PM EST up reply actions  

I agree with this.

I would have advocated for Backlund as NHL backup if he didn’t struggle, then get injured (again), and struggle some more. My faith in him has wavered.

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by Geoff Detweiler on Jan 27, 2011 2:52 PM EST up reply actions  

Thanks for weighing in; was beginning to wonder where you went. I think the Flyers’ first priority should be divesting Leighton. After which Boosh is resigned. As for Backlund, I foresee a high probability he will be moved as well before/by training camp next year.

by mtitanic on Jan 27, 2011 2:39 PM EST up reply actions  

No problem. I went to play in the snow.

I’d love to have Boucher back, but so long as Leighton is here, it doesn’t make sense. And I don’t see anyone taking Leighton.

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by Geoff Detweiler on Jan 27, 2011 2:50 PM EST up reply actions  

No one takes Leighton and a draft pick for “future considerations”? I mean c’mon, Homer and his cronies can’t find a way to get rid of a guy if they really want to? BTW, I’m not saying that Homer is smarter than you-I would never say that.

by mtitanic on Jan 27, 2011 2:55 PM EST up reply actions  

haha, so this is what you’re doing:

Trading Leighton, a draft pick, and letting up to two of Morrison, Stewart, and Riopel walk in exchange for Brian Boucher.

(For a depth chart of – Bobrovsky, Boucher, Backlund, Kovar, and Riopel)

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by Geoff Detweiler on Jan 27, 2011 3:06 PM EST up reply actions  

I wasn’t thinking about a depth chart, but, yeah, I like it the way you wrote it.
I don’t relish giving up a draft pick; depending on the $ amount rise in the cap a buyout may be more attractive. Depends on the pick too.
And, seriously, you don’t think Emery is back on a PTO for training camp?

by mtitanic on Jan 27, 2011 3:14 PM EST up reply actions  

haha, I can’t help but laugh that people are floating buyouts and draft picks for futures just to get rid of Leighton.

As a hater of that contract and the goalie in general, these are terrible ideas. Buying out Leighton would mean the Flyers get charged $1,066,666.72 against the cap in 11-12 AND 12-13.

That’s insane. A buyout is only a good idea if you can’t afford to ice an NHL team (and can therefore afford the cap hit) like the Islanders & Yashin.

But all this just to keep a 34 year old career backup? I love Boucher, but unless you get an asset (hell, a 4th round pick would suffice) in return for Leighton, Boucher is not a Flyer next year.

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by Geoff Detweiler on Jan 27, 2011 3:36 PM EST up reply actions  

This is why I’m not a fan of a buyout. And I’d be up for a 5th rounder 3 years from now for Leighton.

by mtitanic on Jan 27, 2011 4:14 PM EST up reply actions  

haha, agreed.

I just find it humorous that people were okay with (and defending) the signing of Leighton, and now people are trying to dump him for nothing.

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by Geoff Detweiler on Jan 27, 2011 4:28 PM EST up reply actions  

Loyalty!

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by DLJr on Jan 27, 2011 4:38 PM EST up reply actions  

Wow, fans overreacting to a couple of bad games and swinging from positive to wildly negative on a guy? Unheard of.

by Eric T. on Jan 27, 2011 4:50 PM EST up reply actions  

Thanks for playing referee earlier.

by mtitanic on Jan 27, 2011 4:52 PM EST up reply actions  

A couple of bad games? Psh, Leighton got one game.

by Snevik on Jan 27, 2011 5:20 PM EST up reply actions  

Better than Kolb got.

by Eric T. on Jan 27, 2011 5:36 PM EST up reply actions  

Who started four of the first seven games?

by Snevik on Jan 27, 2011 5:46 PM EST up reply actions  

People burned him at the stake after the first half of the first game, though. Getting back in by injury doesn’t mean people didn’t swing wildly negative on him.

by Eric T. on Jan 27, 2011 7:08 PM EST up reply actions  

Because of the fluid nature of events. Before the season we didn’t know what we had in Bob. Now we do. Nobody knew Leighton had a bad back (except Leighton). Now we do. Nobody knew how Backlund would recover. We still don’t, but he’s working on it. Etc, etc. I defending signing Leighton, at least until the back injury/ coverup occurred. Now we have no need of him. I’m fine with him continuing his career elsewhere ASAP.

by mtitanic on Jan 27, 2011 4:50 PM EST up reply actions  

Z!!!!

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by mikefive on Jan 27, 2011 12:37 PM EST up reply actions  

Does a 6 mean “please no”?

by Snevik on Jan 27, 2011 12:32 PM EST up reply actions  

why does a 6 mean please no? do you not want O’donnel to come back if he is willing to? hes a pretty good defensemen for the third line and he wouldnt be asking for to much money. unless i just read what you mean wrong. Frank said earlier that if they win the cup hes probably gone but if they dont he might want to be back.

by Rhayes on Jan 27, 2011 12:39 PM EST up reply actions  

I think the 6 means he’s probably gonna retire after this year.

Samesis

by JpH89 on Jan 27, 2011 12:40 PM EST up reply actions  

I don’t think it should be his choice. I think we have better options with that money than a 40-year-old defenseman.

by Snevik on Jan 27, 2011 12:41 PM EST up reply actions  

im just saying depending on what he asks for and if he does come back i wouldnt mind seeing him back next year seeing how he has played fairly well this season. and hes also a good leader in the locker room with the rest of them.

by Rhayes on Jan 27, 2011 12:45 PM EST up reply actions  

He’s played fairly well, and I see no scenario where a team with him in the line-up next year is better than a team without him in the line-up.

As is, he’s a regular season band-aid, who won’t see 5 minutes a game in the postseason.

by Snevik on Jan 27, 2011 12:48 PM EST up reply actions  

Pronger

When Pronger’s contract reaches its final two years, he is only being paid $525k per year, but maintains his cap hit of $6.5M. Does this mean if we trade him to a team struggling (Atlanta, Florida, Pheonix, etc) to run its operations at the salary floor and still be viable, we could get major assets in return? They get $13M toward the cap, but save 12M in actual payroll. Assuming Pronger is actually showing his age at that point in time…

Could we actually get draft picks?!?!?

Defending Carter until 2021...

by Pardini36 on Jan 27, 2011 12:47 PM EST reply actions  

No one will give you “major assets” for Pronger at that point.

by Snevik on Jan 27, 2011 12:49 PM EST up reply actions  

They’re not getting Pronger, they’re getting to run their team for $6M under the cap. I’m assuming pronger is retired.

Defending Carter until 2021...

by Pardini36 on Jan 27, 2011 12:50 PM EST up reply actions  

Well, you can’t trade a retired player. You can trade a player who then retires. And still, no one is giving you “major assets.” A third or fourth rounder, maybe.

by Snevik on Jan 27, 2011 12:51 PM EST up reply actions  

I disagree on a third or fourth rounder, if a team is doing poorly and can’t afford to pay a first rounder but wants salary cap space they could be interested. These people don’t own teams because they don’t know how to save money. It saves about $15M when you consider the entire contract for a first vs salary cap. And for the Flyers, a third round pick is a first pick.

Defending Carter until 2021...

by Pardini36 on Jan 27, 2011 12:54 PM EST up reply actions  

A team that is doing poorly wants the first and second rounder they earned by being awful.

It’s possible; it won’t happen. Shaving a few dollars isn’t worth leveraging major components for your future.

by Snevik on Jan 27, 2011 1:00 PM EST up reply actions  

You’re thinking in terms of a fan, not as a cheapskate owner who is losing millions. I’m hoping to leverage a cheapskate.

Defending Carter until 2021...

by Pardini36 on Jan 27, 2011 1:00 PM EST up reply actions  

I’m really, really not, I promise. Owners still have to sell season tickets, i.e. present a viable NHL team. Three teams are currently operating below the cap floor, and relying on cap hit to float them: the Islanders, the Thrashers, and the Avalanche. Two of those three are whispered to move. All three are in the bottom six of the attendance numbers; two are in the bottom three. None of them are making money.

It’s not ultimately worthwhile to trade anything of value for the luxury to operate below the cap. Hell, the Islanders backed into that kind of situation because of Yashin, and they are still spending 4 million more than they need to.

by Snevik on Jan 27, 2011 1:09 PM EST up reply actions  

Agreed — the low-spending teams will have interest in cutting payroll when possible, but a move like this is too much of a public announcement that they’re not even trying to be competitive.

Also: draft picks are cheap, so they’d be a difficult piece to pry away in a cut-your-costs sales pitch.

Also: you’re proposing a deal where the Flyers cut $6M from their cap hit, lose nothing in on-ice skill, and you want a first-round-pick as well? Your opposing manager would have to be a pretty terrible negotiator to throw in anything of positive value in taking this deal.

A more reasonable scenario would be Pronger plus a draft pick for a guy who’s paid $5M and plays like a $3M guy. You’re reducing your cap hit by a million, getting a $3M player for nothing talent-wise, and it’s only costing you a draft pick. The flip side reduces their payroll by $4.5M, gets a draft pick, and can sell the deal as making sense because of the pick and the unloaded toxic asset.

by Eric T. on Jan 27, 2011 2:00 PM EST up reply actions  

Pronger’s cap hit is $4.9 million, not $6, BTW

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by Geoff Detweiler on Jan 27, 2011 2:15 PM EST up reply actions  

Bah, I was just relying on Pardini’s original post. Well, same idea still works, just have to fix some numbers…but it’ll never happen anyway, obviously.

by Eric T. on Jan 27, 2011 2:28 PM EST up reply actions  

Exactly.

I saw that in the original post and waited to see if anybody caught it. They didn’t, so I commented here.

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by Geoff Detweiler on Jan 27, 2011 2:29 PM EST up reply actions  

Like imagine if Joe Banner ran the team, that’s his dream situation. He can claim he’s paying X toward the cap, but really he’s saving $6M per year. For Banner that would be worth two firsts.

Defending Carter until 2021...

by Pardini36 on Jan 27, 2011 12:51 PM EST up reply actions  

If it would work, it also makes Homer’s signing look much smarter.

Defending Carter until 2021...

by Pardini36 on Jan 27, 2011 12:56 PM EST up reply actions  

Matt Walker (PHI) and Ales Kotalik (CGY) on waivers.

Cue endless speculation…

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by Ben Feldman on Jan 27, 2011 1:12 PM EST reply actions  

Cue Geoff meltdown…

by Snevik on Jan 27, 2011 1:14 PM EST up reply actions  

My first reaction as well. I’m not sure what that says about us but it can’t be positive.

by dsbflyers on Jan 27, 2011 2:07 PM EST up reply actions  

I’m strangely apathetic to it.

I want to know why the hell they waited, why they used LTIR earlier in the year when they didn’t have to, and why they acquired him, but whatever.

I’m not in the mood to scream and yell any more. Holmgren seems to be learning and improving, plus everyone is bowing down to him now, so there’s no reason to be that lone crazy person bitching about the GM of the first-place team in the NHL.

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by Geoff Detweiler on Jan 27, 2011 2:31 PM EST up reply actions  

Well that was disappointing.

Flyers Fans: We've survived Lock-outs, Lindros and Cooperalls. If you want to get rid of us, you'll have to split an atom or two.

by KreiderDesigns on Jan 27, 2011 2:36 PM EST up reply actions  

I guess he got it out of himself earlier, when it was suggested we waive Walker after the LTIR stint. Oh well.

by Snevik on Jan 27, 2011 2:42 PM EST up reply actions  

Let’s find something else to get him riled up about.

I think we should trade Carter for Vokoun.

by Eric T. on Jan 27, 2011 2:46 PM EST up reply actions  

Also, after this set-back I don’t think Matt Calvert will ever return to an NHL line-up.

Flyers Fans: We've survived Lock-outs, Lindros and Cooperalls. If you want to get rid of us, you'll have to split an atom or two.

by KreiderDesigns on Jan 27, 2011 2:47 PM EST up reply actions  

I don’t think he should, either.

Mourning Gagne forever.

by ToddtheFox on Jan 27, 2011 2:47 PM EST up reply actions  

Who’s Matt Calvert?

by Eric T. on Jan 27, 2011 2:49 PM EST up reply actions  

He’s been described as a mini- Mika Pyorala, I believe.

Mourning Gagne forever.

by ToddtheFox on Jan 27, 2011 2:52 PM EST up reply actions  

Nice.

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by Geoff Detweiler on Jan 27, 2011 2:55 PM EST up reply actions  

Want to bet that he’s back within 7 days?

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by Geoff Detweiler on Jan 27, 2011 2:55 PM EST up reply actions  

Yeah, because I actually believe this and know a lot about whoever this guy is and wasn’t joking at all to try to get you angry. Sure. How about a shiny new nickel?

Flyers Fans: We've survived Lock-outs, Lindros and Cooperalls. If you want to get rid of us, you'll have to split an atom or two.

by KreiderDesigns on Jan 27, 2011 2:58 PM EST up reply actions  

Shaun, Shaun, Shaun,…..Where did your mother and I go wrong?

by mtitanic on Jan 27, 2011 3:00 PM EST up reply actions  

hahahaha +1

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by Geoff Detweiler on Jan 27, 2011 3:01 PM EST up reply actions  

And look who ended up getting angry.

:)

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by Geoff Detweiler on Jan 27, 2011 3:07 PM EST up reply actions  

Sarcastic is not angry.

Flyers Fans: We've survived Lock-outs, Lindros and Cooperalls. If you want to get rid of us, you'll have to split an atom or two.

by KreiderDesigns on Jan 27, 2011 3:08 PM EST up reply actions  

Rambling sarcasm? Yeah, that’s at least frustration.

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by Geoff Detweiler on Jan 27, 2011 3:29 PM EST up reply actions  

Right. I forgot you know better than i about everything, even what I’m feeling. Sorry to ever have questioned you.

Flyers Fans: We've survived Lock-outs, Lindros and Cooperalls. If you want to get rid of us, you'll have to split an atom or two.

by KreiderDesigns on Jan 27, 2011 3:44 PM EST up reply actions  

Damn skippy.

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by Geoff Detweiler on Jan 27, 2011 3:59 PM EST up reply actions  

Last year? I’d have agreed.

This year? Nah.

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by Geoff Detweiler on Jan 27, 2011 2:55 PM EST up reply actions  

He may be learning, but that doesn’t mean he didn’t make the mistake. You’ll never be alone as long as I’m on this site (I know adorable right).

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by DLJr on Jan 27, 2011 2:37 PM EST up reply actions  

He may be learning, but that doesn’t mean he didn’t make the mistake.

I agree 100%.

You’ll never be alone as long as I’m on this site (I know adorable right).

Um… Yeah. Awkward.

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by Geoff Detweiler on Jan 27, 2011 2:51 PM EST up reply actions  

I try to be nice and so signs of loyalty when it comes to critiquing the Flyers GM, but no, you go and make something out of it…thanks a lot Detwheeler.

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by DLJr on Jan 27, 2011 2:55 PM EST up reply actions  

Oh, I’m sorry, Don. I didn’t mean to rebuke your advances.

It was very adorable and I appreciate it. Thanks for standing with me forever.

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by Geoff Detweiler on Jan 27, 2011 3:08 PM EST up reply actions  

Hey, at least I didn’t invite myself to change in the back seat of your car.

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by DLJr on Jan 27, 2011 3:13 PM EST up reply actions  

No, this is much deeper than that.

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by Geoff Detweiler on Jan 27, 2011 3:30 PM EST up reply actions  

What can I say, I’m not cheap, I need romance.

Geoff has Boosh, Mike's got Powe, Nodl is all mine!
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by DLJr on Jan 27, 2011 3:43 PM EST up reply actions  

This

Lightning strikes once, Hextall strikes twice!

by hintzy64 on Jan 27, 2011 3:05 PM EST up reply actions  

Is it a fair estimate that Leighton and Walker’s AHL salary could be more than the rest of the Phantoms team combined? Is it possible to find AHL salaries?

Mourning Gagne forever.

by ToddtheFox on Jan 27, 2011 1:21 PM EST up reply actions  

CapGeek doesn’t keep a running total for the Phantoms, as far as I can tell, but you can look through players’ AHL salaries by going to their individual pages (listed at the bottom of here). Probably very likely that Leighton alone almost makes more than the rest of the team combined.

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by Ben Feldman on Jan 27, 2011 1:25 PM EST up reply actions  

Thhanks, Ben. I was sure you could somehow.

Mourning Gagne forever.

by ToddtheFox on Jan 27, 2011 1:26 PM EST up reply actions  

The Phantoms, not including Cullen Eddy, JP Testwuide, Logan Stephenson and Denis Hamel because I couldn’t find their salary information, make a combined $1.41 million. So with the extra players it would possibly be around or just over Leighton’s salary.

Mourning Gagne forever.

by ToddtheFox on Jan 27, 2011 1:38 PM EST up reply actions  

I know most people will see this as a good thing as it sheds a lot of cap room, but as far as 7th defenseman goes, I think Walker is a better player than Bartulis (sorry Ben), and this is telling me that Homer is going to want to make a trade that has a very good chance of being very, very dumb.

Is Paul Holmgren really bad at managing the salary cap? Does Matt Stairs enjoy getting his ass hammered by guys?
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by Justin F. on Jan 27, 2011 1:33 PM EST up reply actions  

I agree with this entirely.

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by Geoff Detweiler on Jan 27, 2011 2:16 PM EST up reply actions  

ESPN Rumor

The Montreal Canadiens are looking for some scoring, and they might look to Philadelphia Flyers forward Nikolay Zherdev for the help, the Ottawa Sun’s Bruce Garrioch reports: “[Habs GM Pierre] Gauthier seems to think he%u2019s smarter than everybody else and likes reclamation projects.”

Zherdev has struggled after coming back from Russia this season. He’s on a one-year contract, and the Flyers likely won’t re-sign him, so they’d love to parlay him into an asset. The Habs could probably get him at a bargain price, because he’s struggled mightily this season. But because he’s a low-risk rental player, there may be other clubs interested in the winger.

- Alvin Chang

A bit harsh on Zherdev, no?
(sorry, don’t know how to pinkisize things)

by mantis toboggan on Jan 27, 2011 1:33 PM EST reply actions  

Yeah, we about this a bit ago. Although we didn’t have Alvin Chang’s terrible scouting to hold hands with Garrioch’s terrible reporting.

P.S. Those little quotation marks above the message box will give you the formatting tag for block-quoting.

by Snevik on Jan 27, 2011 1:36 PM EST up reply actions  

heard about this*

Damnit. I’m typing sick.

by Snevik on Jan 27, 2011 1:39 PM EST up reply actions  

Highlight the quote and click the little quotation mark icon between the title and post areas.

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by KreiderDesigns on Jan 27, 2011 1:37 PM EST up reply actions  

right now i dont see the flyers trading Z especially how he has played lately. And i also dont see them sending him to the canadiens.

by Rhayes on Jan 27, 2011 1:38 PM EST up reply actions  

Neither do I. Nothing in that report seems to be based in reality

by mantis toboggan on Jan 27, 2011 1:40 PM EST up reply actions  

That’s because it’s based in Montreal.

Lightning strikes once, Hextall strikes twice!

by hintzy64 on Jan 27, 2011 1:41 PM EST up reply actions  

Pissed off at the ass-kicking they got this week.

by mtitanic on Jan 27, 2011 2:06 PM EST up reply actions  

No, their perception of space and time are just…different there.

Lightning strikes once, Hextall strikes twice!

by hintzy64 on Jan 27, 2011 2:10 PM EST up reply actions  

The really strange thing about this version of the story…

Zherdev has struggled after coming back from Russia this season. He’s on a one-year contract, and the Flyers likely won’t re-sign him, so they’d love to parlay him into an asset. The Habs could probably get him at a bargain price, because he’s struggled mightily this season.

If Zherdev has struggled so mightily this season, why are the Canadiens suddenly interested in acquiring him on the cheap, when they could have had him for free any number of times before this season (i.e. when he was a free agent last year that nobody wanted, when he went back to the KHL for a year, or at the opening of free agency this year when he didn’t command much interest and had to sign a one-year deal)?

by Eric T. on Jan 27, 2011 2:38 PM EST up reply actions  

OT

How much snow did you guys get up in Philly? The official report for Baltimore is 7.8", which sounds about right for me. I live a mere 6 miles from my work, but it’s a very hilly 6 miles, and I was stupid and stayed at work until nearly 5:00 (about 30 minutes too long, as it turns out), so it took me an hour and a half to get home. Digging out this morning was relatively easy though (compared to “Snowmageddon” last year), my HOA did a good job with my parking lot. The county did a less-good job with the neighborhood streets, but I made it to work without any trouble. Now I’m just sitting here in an almost empty office, procrastinating. :-p

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by hintzy64 on Jan 27, 2011 1:37 PM EST reply actions  

We got about a foot here in the ’burbs when it was all said and done.

Aristotle was not Belgian, the principle of Buddhism is not "every man for himself", and the London Underground is not a political movement.

by doubleh on Jan 27, 2011 1:38 PM EST up reply actions  

yeah it was about 10-12 inches around philly depending where you were exactly.

by Rhayes on Jan 27, 2011 1:39 PM EST up reply actions  

15inches in my driveway…not fun to shovel, it was heavy as anything.

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by DLJr on Jan 27, 2011 1:41 PM EST up reply actions  

Damn. Yeah, it’s pretty heavy stuff. About half of the pear tree in my front yard fell (luckily, away from house and cars), and the other half is drooping so far I have to duck to walk down my front steps. A 30’+ locust tree in the back yard is bending all the way to the ground. Hopefully it doesn’t snap or my fence and shed are hosed.

Lightning strikes once, Hextall strikes twice!

by hintzy64 on Jan 27, 2011 1:44 PM EST up reply actions  

Ouch…ice on the branches?

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by DLJr on Jan 27, 2011 1:56 PM EST up reply actions  

Mostly wet snow

Lightning strikes once, Hextall strikes twice!

by hintzy64 on Jan 27, 2011 2:05 PM EST up reply actions  

I’m 30 miles outside of Philly on the NJ side and we only got about 6 inches. Didn’t even have to dig my car out, actually.

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by Travis Hughes on Jan 27, 2011 1:43 PM EST up reply actions  

looks kinda like the fanatics cousin to me…

by Rhayes on Jan 27, 2011 1:46 PM EST up reply actions  

A hillbilly cousin. Which makes sense for the Adirondacks.

by Snevik on Jan 27, 2011 1:47 PM EST up reply actions  

Not a fan. Phlex was better.

Lightning strikes once, Hextall strikes twice!

by hintzy64 on Jan 27, 2011 1:49 PM EST up reply actions  

Dear god, were the teeth really necessary?

by ww2b on Jan 27, 2011 2:14 PM EST up reply actions  

How much did this cost Ed Snider?

by mtitanic on Jan 27, 2011 2:21 PM EST up reply actions  

It was good except for the part where Devils fans are “uniformly polite and informed”. That’s a laugh.

Aristotle was not Belgian, the principle of Buddhism is not "every man for himself", and the London Underground is not a political movement.

by doubleh on Jan 27, 2011 4:04 PM EST up reply actions  

I thought it fell into the classic “worthless without pictures” category.

by Eric T. on Jan 27, 2011 4:27 PM EST up reply actions  

This was yesterday, but is it bad that I laughed?

Stefan Legein: i want a wife so we can go on wife swap…

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