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Leights or Backlund?

HYPOTHETICAL SITUATION:

Boosh goes down in practice with a groin pull. What do we do. We just bumped Leights down, so the easy move is to call him back up right? Well, no. If you're a contributing member to this site, then you already know about re-entry waivers (and you should just skip this paragraph), if not, I'll break it down as simply as possible. There are two main types of contracts: One-Way and Two-Way. Two way means a player can be bumped up and down from the NHL to the AHL with out any problems. In order for a one way player to be sent from the AHL, he must clear waivers, meaning any NHL team (starting with the worst, working up to the best) has the option of claiming that player to be on their team. This is how the Flyers acquired Leights last year, and players get claimed off waivers all the time. That said, the reason they don't get claimed more often is because the new team (the team that claimed the player) must pick up the entire salary. Because most guys who do get sent down with one way deals are sent because of their high salaries, they often do not get claimed. So when the player is re-called to the big club, its the same deal, right? Well... wrong again. In order for a player to be re-called he must be put on re-entry waivers. Re-entry waivers are similar to the original waiver rules, except this time, if the player is claimed the new team and old team SPLIT the salary for the remainder of the contract. So if Leights is called up and claimed by anyone, we need to pay half of his 2 year, 1.55 per year deal, for not just this year but next year too. We've made this mistake when Randy Jones was on the books for over three million and he was claimed on Re-Entry waivers, and the people involved with this site have yet to let Homer live that horrible mistake down.

So back to the hypothetical situation... a goalie injury. Lets say Boosh gets hurt for a few weeks and we need to call up a goalie. Who do we go with? Stats in this instance are useless? Why? Because what can you possibly compare? There is no sample size on our goalies. There is no statistical analysis possible for this situation. How and why you ask? Just look at the goalies involved. Its one of two guys: Johan Backlund or Michael Leighton. Backlund, a 30-year-old-would-be-rookie has had one start in his NHL carrier and played pretty good vs. the Pens last year  a groin injury in the second period sidelined him for a few weeks. He was the Phantoms MVP with decent numbers, and has been lit up like a Christmas tree this year (but so would any goalie on the planet for that team). Michael Leighton is returning from an injury and looked very so-so (although he did end the game well) in his only start this year. This is a gut instinct decision on which goalie is legitimately better. Leights has the NHL experience but the worse contract scenario with his having to be put through re-entry waivers.

If Boosh is only out for a week or so and we have to have a legitmate "backup" come in and open a door, we're not going to call up either of these guys. Backlund has a 1-way deal also, which means he can go up ONCE. Then to go back down he's gotta clear waivers. We'd call up Nicola Riopel (or any other of our 15 two-way goalies). That isn't my question. Lets say its the end of the year. Bob is the clear one Boosh is the two. Bob goes down with a season ending injury. We call up the door opener. Boosh goes down with a season ender. Who do you call up? Risk Leights or go with Backlund?

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Risk Leights or give Backlund another shot?
Leights
25 votes
Backlund
47 votes

72 votes | Poll has closed

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Backlund is the runaway favorite because he doesn’t have to clear on the way up. If Boucher has the flu and can’t even sit on the bench (possibly more than the flu?) but will only miss one game? Call up Brian Stewart so you don’t have to waive him to go back down.

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by Geoff Detweiler on Jan 4, 2011 8:34 PM EST reply actions  

Talking about how my question is if we needed a guy to come up and start… I tried to explain that it was obvious that weed callup any two way guy that we have in a short term injury situation:

We’d call up Nicola Riopel (or any other of our 15 two-way goalies). That isn’t my question.

Man Crushin on Bob since 2010

by orangeandblack20 on Jan 5, 2011 3:04 AM EST up reply actions  

Well, a) Riopel isn’t even on an NHL deal, so the only two-way guys the Flyers have are Bobrovsky and Stewart.

b) I think I did answer your question in that Backlund is the favorite because he doesn’t have to clear on the way up. In your scenario, “its the end of the year”. So you call up Backlund immediately, and he starts the next game. Stewart is your backup. When the playoffs start (which should also be when the Phantoms season ends), you call up Leighton since he doesn’t have to go through re-entry to join.

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by Geoff Detweiler on Jan 5, 2011 12:18 PM EST up reply actions  

I don't agree with this

If the Flyers are truly doing #1 whats best for the team and #2 what’s best for Michael (Homer’s words not mine) then they should give him a few starts in the AHL, let him get his feet under him and prove he can get his timing back and then call him back up with the intent of letting him go. It’s the respectable thing to do to a guy if you have no intention of keeping him. Part ways. break up and allow the guy as a thanks for all he did for your team last year to go on with his career rather than keep getting hit on his salary and preventing a good goalie from rotting in the minors when he is NHL caliber. Thanks Mike, wish you all the best. Get healthy and then hope you get back in the NHL.

by Stown on Jan 5, 2011 12:31 AM EST reply actions  

Holmgren shouldn’t do whats best for Michael Leighton he should do what’s best for the Flyer’s. After all he’s the GM of the Flyers not the GM of Leighton’s career. Secondly, how respectful of the Flyers was Michael Leighton when he decided to withhold his back injury from the team until he signed his new contract. Leighton deserves little sympathy.

What can't Giroux do?

by tmurder on Jan 5, 2011 10:06 AM EST up reply actions  

If it is the end of the year(assuming you meant regular season), chances are the Phantoms season is over at which point the Flyers can recall Leighton and Backlund to the Playoff roster without worrying about waivers.

What can't Giroux do?

by tmurder on Jan 5, 2011 10:09 AM EST reply actions  

Having two goalies go down with serious injuries requiring a 3rd guy to start long term is not something you build your team around. Who the hell has 3 goalies? I would imagine if something was need long term they would sign a vet guy like Nabokov or someone from somewhere to get him on the roster cheap. They could then waive him and not worry about it when the others return from injury.

The good thing is Leighton and Backlund would be available for the playoffs without worrying about waivers.

by chrislanci on Jan 5, 2011 10:18 AM EST reply actions  

Does anyone else not see a problem with Leighton being claimed by another team off waivers? He’s the third best goalie on the team. I’m not exactly worried about losing him. Not with that contract.

by Rujasu on Jan 6, 2011 3:56 PM EST reply actions  

Other than the Flyers having to pay part of his salary and take part of the cap hit for the next two seasons?

Mourning Gagne forever.

by ToddtheFox on Jan 6, 2011 4:10 PM EST up reply actions  

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