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BSH Radio 28: Cap space! The Devils suck! Life is good.

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After more than a year, perhaps longer depending on your perspective, of nonstop goalie debate, it appears as though with the demotion of Michael Leighton, the goalie carousel in Philadelphia has stopped spinning. We lead off this week's BSH Radio, our first show since October, with a detailed discussion of Leighton's demotion to the Phantoms,  it's impact on the team and on the salary cap. 

We also discuss the fact the Flyers are apparently the most stable team in the Eastern Conference. Bruce Boudreau and his saucy beard leading the Caps is a blessing in disguise for us, while the Tampa Bay Lightning win close games but lose in blowout fashion. Ben apparently is a soothsayer, because his theory on this subject was discussed before the Penguins crushed the Bolts, 8-1.

Oh, and the Devils. They're terrible on an epic level, what with their minus-55 goal differential and everything. We play them twice back-to-back coming up, and that's something to celebrate. 

Get this week's show after the jump.

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FINALLY!

All it took was good old fashioned whining! Thanks guys…I have to drive to PSU today and I needed something to listen to…

Defending Carter until 2021...

by Pardini36 on Jan 6, 2011 8:49 AM EST reply actions  

Why not waive Walker and Shelley now and have plenty of cap space???

Phigment

by Phigment on Jan 6, 2011 10:02 AM EST reply actions  

Holmgren likes both Shelley and Walker. Shelley because they believe we need a heavyweight. walker because they want the defensive depth when he gets back.

However, waiving both is the right move.

What can't Giroux do?

by tmurder on Jan 6, 2011 10:19 AM EST up reply actions  

Walker can’t be waived while injured.

If you waive Shelley, you immediately need to call someone up since Zherdev is injured. Plus, the team likes Shelley.

Man-crushin' on Boucher since 1999
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by Geoff Detweiler on Jan 6, 2011 10:36 AM EST up reply actions  

“Michael Leighton, back were he belongs in the AHL.”

Burn.

What can't Giroux do?

by tmurder on Jan 6, 2011 10:28 AM EST reply actions  

This is what I continue not to understand, Geoff:

I get that waiving Walker when he comes off LTIR is frustrating, and not necessary. However, let’s assume Matt Walker after multiple surgeries is no better than Gustafsson. Where all things are close to equal, you take the cap space, right? I’m not convinced the current trajectory puts us far enough under the cap to afford these bonuses.

by Snevik on Jan 6, 2011 10:49 AM EST reply actions  

I’m not saying it’d be the wrong decision when Walker’s healthy, I’m saying it would irk me that they waive him after wasting – what will amount to roughly $1.2 million – all that money on a guy who will never play.

If you’re okay with saving at least $800k (and upwards of $1.1 million) per year on Gustafsson/Syvret/Marshall over Walker on two bad hips, why are you not okay with saving that much money when Walker has one bad hip?

It’s a: Why do you make the smart decision now, when it would have saved you SO MUCH more money the first time around? Yes, you finally realize it’s the right move. It was the right move 3 months ago, it was the right move 2 months ago. It was the right move last month. If you disagree with that assessment, how does another bad hip make you realize “oh, shit, it is the right move?”

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by Geoff Detweiler on Jan 6, 2011 12:25 PM EST up reply actions  

I think the team would say they didn’t realize the extent of the injury. I agree, but I want to focus on the fact that it is still imperative to waive an extraneous, injury-prone player as soon as possible, and that it is independent of whether or not we have cap room. If anything, it has renewed my desire to cut Walker (even if it sacrifices defensive depth) because for the first time it seems possible that the bonuses won’t put us over for the year. I didn’t care if Walker counted against the cap as much when I thought a cap penalty was inevitable.

by Snevik on Jan 6, 2011 1:24 PM EST up reply actions  

And now that a cap penalty is not inevitable – even with Matt Walker on the team – why not keep him?

In other words: When the option is LTIR a lot of money, be over the cap, have a penalty next year, or waive Walker, I wanted them to waive Walker.

Now, the option is: keep Walker, avoid LTIR, be under the cap, and quite possibly (perhaps even likely) avoid a penalty next year or get rid of Walker and make “likely” into “assuredly”, except then people will clamor that the Flyers should spend that money at the deadline.

They aren’t in a position to need Walker’s cap space – since they waived Leighton – so why get rid of him now? If you don’t do it when it’s the smart thing to do, why do it when it isn’t necessary?

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by Geoff Detweiler on Jan 6, 2011 1:43 PM EST up reply actions  

Do we know how likely they are to exceed the cap space? We have no insight into the nature of the bonuses (unless I’m mistaken, I’m taking some comments on here at face value). You’re basically counting on us paying out only 20% of the bonuses, unless I’m mistaken. I’m sure Nodl will get whatever his is. JVR and Bob have huge potential bonus, and they are both playing well enough that they may be hitting some benchmarks.

by Snevik on Jan 6, 2011 2:01 PM EST up reply actions  

We honestly have no clue what the bonuses are, or even how attainable they are.

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by Geoff Detweiler on Jan 6, 2011 2:33 PM EST up reply actions  

By “how attainable they are”, I mean JVR may have a “rookie of the year” bonus, which he can’t win this year or next. Bob may have a rookie of the year bonus, which he can’t win next year or the year after. They may have All-Star team bonuses, which they can’t earn as of the All-Star game, which means that portion of the bonus cushion comes off as soon as it’s unattainable.

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by Geoff Detweiler on Jan 6, 2011 2:34 PM EST up reply actions  

This means we have to trust Homer. Given my druthers, I’d rather Homer waive Matt Walker belatedly than be forced to trust him.

by Snevik on Jan 6, 2011 2:51 PM EST up reply actions  

How can you not trust the man who won nhl.com’s GM of the year award at the quarter pole of the season…ye of little faith.

Geoff has Boosh, Mike's got Powe, Nodl is all mine!
Is this the right room for an argument?

by DLJr on Jan 6, 2011 2:56 PM EST up reply actions  

Play the Games First

Can we not celebrate the victories over the Debbies until we achieve them?

by Georgia_Flyer on Jan 6, 2011 10:49 AM EST reply actions  

Capital idea.

"Darroll can't see it, blind to the eyes;
He came up in your face OOPS POWE SURPRISE!"
Man-crushin' on #36 since he hit his "absolute ceiling" as a rookie in 2008.

by mikefive on Jan 6, 2011 11:30 AM EST up reply actions  

I’m with this. I remember a lot of people having a good time talking about the Florida game before the puck was dropped, and look how that turned out.

by MrSavageHenry on Jan 6, 2011 12:05 PM EST up reply actions  

I remember a fair amount of people seeing Florida as a let-down game.

What can't Giroux do?

by tmurder on Jan 6, 2011 1:11 PM EST up reply actions  

How do you not mention that the diving Boosh save was on Jody Shelley? After he had already scored in that game?

The last three game of last regular season were surreal.

by Snevik on Jan 6, 2011 11:13 AM EST reply actions  

My engineer has been balking on finishing the theme song with me. Sorry for the delay there. We re-recorded everything (with real drums and proper compression / EQing) but still need to mix.

More importantly, I’m glad that BSH radio is back, as we all are. Thanks guys.

"Darroll can't see it, blind to the eyes;
He came up in your face OOPS POWE SURPRISE!"
Man-crushin' on #36 since he hit his "absolute ceiling" as a rookie in 2008.

by mikefive on Jan 6, 2011 11:30 AM EST reply actions  

Me.

"Darroll can't see it, blind to the eyes;
He came up in your face OOPS POWE SURPRISE!"
Man-crushin' on #36 since he hit his "absolute ceiling" as a rookie in 2008.

by mikefive on Jan 6, 2011 12:02 PM EST up reply actions  

Don’t let any goals in….you might get waived.

by AlaskaFlyersFan on Jan 6, 2011 12:33 PM EST up reply actions  

That would suck for the Flyers if I were goaltending tonight. I haven’t been a “gardien de but” since 1993.

"Darroll can't see it, blind to the eyes;
He came up in your face OOPS POWE SURPRISE!"
Man-crushin' on #36 since he hit his "absolute ceiling" as a rookie in 2008.

by mikefive on Jan 6, 2011 12:44 PM EST up reply actions  

my french sux – so does that mean your cap hit will make us scream putain de merde!

by fitzy first on Jan 6, 2011 1:32 PM EST up reply actions  

No, but my play would.

"Darroll can't see it, blind to the eyes;
He came up in your face OOPS POWE SURPRISE!"
Man-crushin' on #36 since he hit his "absolute ceiling" as a rookie in 2008.

by mikefive on Jan 6, 2011 1:43 PM EST up reply actions  

I’m having a hard time seeing us as the most stable….sure we’ve had a pretty good run, but looking at our last 5 games doesn’t look like the situation is in hand to me. If we can have a good run in the next few games then maybe I’ll be a bit more comfortable. Just things look kinda shakey lately.

by MrSavageHenry on Jan 6, 2011 12:03 PM EST reply actions  

It’s a long season. Everyone goes through bouts of inconsistency.

More often than not this year, they’ve “played the game the right way.”

/Wheels

"Darroll can't see it, blind to the eyes;
He came up in your face OOPS POWE SURPRISE!"
Man-crushin' on #36 since he hit his "absolute ceiling" as a rookie in 2008.

by mikefive on Jan 6, 2011 12:06 PM EST up reply actions  

This game has the potential for some crazy, kooky stuff to happen. /Wheels’d

Aristotle was not Belgian, the principle of Buddhism is not "every man for himself", and the London Underground is not a political movement.

by doubleh on Jan 6, 2011 12:31 PM EST up reply actions  

I sure hope that neither of the next two games are “really weird games.” It wouldn’t help if the Devils have a “typical lefty” they can throw at us. I hope the Flyers “just have fun out there” and none of them become “space cadets” on the ice.

"Darroll can't see it, blind to the eyes;
He came up in your face OOPS POWE SURPRISE!"
Man-crushin' on #36 since he hit his "absolute ceiling" as a rookie in 2008.

by mikefive on Jan 6, 2011 12:40 PM EST up reply actions  

My all-time favorite Wheels quote had to be during that crazy make-up game against the Rockies late this past season, when Utley hit the grand slam.

The Rockies were threatening in the bottom of the 9th by getting the kind of “goofy” base hits that one tends to get at Coors Field. Out of nowhere, Wheels goes, “I hate this place!”

TMac, moron that he is, was afraid that Wheels was defaming the city of Denver. “Well, Wheels, Denver IS a beautiful city!”

Looks like those clowns in the broadcast booth did it again! What a bunch of clowns.

"Darroll can't see it, blind to the eyes;
He came up in your face OOPS POWE SURPRISE!"
Man-crushin' on #36 since he hit his "absolute ceiling" as a rookie in 2008.

by mikefive on Jan 6, 2011 12:43 PM EST up reply actions  

Yeah, I learned to appreciate Chris Wheeler more when McCarthy got here.

Aristotle was not Belgian, the principle of Buddhism is not "every man for himself", and the London Underground is not a political movement.

by doubleh on Jan 6, 2011 12:47 PM EST up reply actions  

Five games stretched unevenly over 2 weeks. This stretch of the schedule is a bad sample size for judging consistency, regardless of the results.

by Snevik on Jan 6, 2011 1:29 PM EST up reply actions  

Speaking of Boudreau

Watched the final ep of 24/7 last night. I don’t know if they went out of their way to paint the Caps as aholes and the Pens as the “good guys,” but that’s certainly how it came off. Bruce is a lunatic and a bit of a jerk if you ask me, standing there when the game is over saying, “they can come to us if they want a handshake,” all the while with their backs turned. As soon as the Pens left, he says “Fuck ’em, fuck ’em all,” while walking off of the ice.

It certainly didn’t make me like the Caps any more and even though I don’t care for the Pens as a whole, they seem to be a decent group of guys. I really like Blysma. Still, their fans can go piss up a rope.

Aristotle was not Belgian, the principle of Buddhism is not "every man for himself", and the London Underground is not a political movement.

by doubleh on Jan 6, 2011 12:57 PM EST reply actions  

Bruce Boudreau

Looking at his Wiki page he seems to think quite highly of himself since juniors. When his hometown Maple Leafs drafted him he couldn’t come to a contract agreement w/ them and went to the WHA. I think he has a huge chip on his shoulder. Didn’t Stevens decline to comment a couple of years ago after a Flyers win and Bruce was ranting about some stupid thing?

by mtitanic on Jan 6, 2011 1:14 PM EST up reply actions  

columbo of hockey? does he read bedtime stories to a sick OV

by fitzy first on Jan 6, 2011 2:41 PM EST up reply actions  

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