Tuesday Morning Fly By: Hey! The Flyers Are Still Undefeated!
Today's open discussion thread, complete with your daily dose of Philadelphia Flyers news and notes...
- I think this is a new feature, and I love it: notes from yesterday's practice: [CSNPhilly]
- A fascinating look at the shots given up by the Flyers on Saturday: [The Checking Line]
- And scoring chances from the game Saturday, in case you missed it: [BSH] [In Lou We Trust]
- It helps when the Flyers defense has given up one even-strength scoring chance in the third period this year: [SB Nation Philly]
- Wayne Simmonds is off to a great start to the year: [Philly Sports Daily]
- Is Scott Hartnell a trade candidate? [Flyers Faithful]
- Blair Betts won't be re-joining the Flyers, which leaves him in a tough spot: [Philly Sports Daily] [Frequent Flyers] [CSNPhilly]
- Why waiving Jody Shelley doesn't solve the contract problem. Yes, it would go a long way toward solving the cap problem, not not both: [Orange and Black Pack]
- Jakub Kovar stopped 26 of 27 shots in a 4-1 win: [euroflyers]
- Future Flyers Weekly Report, starring Brendan Ranford, Mike Testwuide, and Brayden Schenn: [Flyers Faithful]
- Are the Flyers the last hope for Philadelphia fans this year? [Broad Street Buzz]
- Mattias Ohlund is out for two months?? Hey Yzerman! You can have Matt Walker back for
next tonothing, promise: [Puck Daddy] - What I assume to be (who am I kidding, it's) Matt Calvert's brother shared an image of Matt's face after the high stick: [MarkoCalvert]
- Tomas Vokoun gave up 5 goals on 28 shots (0.821 sv%) in his Washington debut, right in line with his career 0.884 sv% in season opening games: [JapersRink]
- The results of the jersey vote are in, so here are the 90 jerseys ranked by the readers: [icethetics]
- Looking at goaltending effects on the winner of the Jack Adams Award: [Brodeur is a Fraud]
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The shot selection is charts are a cool idea, but what are they telling us that ESPN gamecasts can’t?
Tracking the Flyers scoring chances at Broad Street Hockey
That is a good question.
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by Geoff Detweiler on Oct 11, 2011 8:36 AM EDT up reply actions
Shot Study
Hey guys I wrote the shot study. I wasn’t aware that ESPN kept track of the shots or that gamecast existed.
My study is based on the score sheet provided by NHL.com. They have a real time shot report that keeps track of all registered, missed and blocked shots. When a player would attempt a shot, I would mark the area with a small dot. Based on how the official scorer saw it I would then change the dot into a B for blocked shot, M for missed shot and an X for a registered shot.
If you notice, ESPN has the Devils attempting 17 shots where as the official score sheet registered 20. I am not aware as to how ESPN compiles their data but I felt that sticking to the score sheet was the best option because it is hard to tell when watching on TV whether some shots were tipped or deflected or what not.
In terms of what my study tells you in comparison to the gamecast, well I suppose that one is up to you. I’m just a big fan who thought it may be interesting to keep track of this kind of data to see if I could locate trends. I started doing it last March and was looking forward to a whole season’s worth of material.
by matt brigidi on Oct 11, 2011 9:27 AM EDT up reply actions
This is what I used to guide my study:
http://www.nhl.com/scores/htmlreports/20112012/SS020012.HTM
like I said it updates in real time and informs me when a shot has been recorded
by matt brigidi on Oct 11, 2011 9:32 AM EDT up reply actions
I also use this
http://www.nhl.com/scores/htmlreports/20112012/ES020012.HTM
hopefully you can see that I try to be as thorough as possible
by matt brigidi on Oct 11, 2011 9:39 AM EDT up reply actions
Three months ago, I would have jumped at having Vokoun at his cap hit over Bryz. Today, not so much. Six months from now, who knows?
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that’s because you are still crazy
I eat sentimentality for breakfast, but stats stop me dead in my tracks
by CoburnsCuddleBuddy on Oct 11, 2011 7:44 AM EDT up reply actions
Bryz has an unsustainably high Save Pct, Vokes has an unsustainably (we hope) low one.
Waaaaay too early to be deciding on this one.
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Why do we hope that? i dont know about you, but i really hope Voukun sustains his haha.
This team will be the death of me.
I think when fat_daddyo says “we”, he means “we the Caps fans”.
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Would love to hear Richards’ and Gagne’s thoughts about that purple LA Kings outfit, ugly beyond words
Well, Hartnell is in trade rumors again. What a shocker! How about we trade him to the Panthers and do a Scottie for Scottie trade and get Upshall back. The Flyers would only get about $700k in cap space for the move and both players have NTC/NMC in their contracts. I’m sure with his recent divorce, Hartnell wouldn’t mind living in south Florida.
While Hartnell has been my favorite flyer for a while, he does make the most sense if they wanna trade someone. I don’t think it will happen tho because of his NTC/NMC, unless they “Gange” him.
by SkookFlyerfan on Oct 11, 2011 8:28 AM EDT up reply actions
That doesn’t solve the contract problem.
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by Geoff Detweiler on Oct 11, 2011 8:37 AM EDT up reply actions
Hey Geoff, I have been wondering for days how do you actually solve the contract problem? Can you cut guys? Can you waive guys, especially guys we don’t even know the name of? Do we need an unfortunate bus accident? What are the options?
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Options, as of now, are:
1) Trade a player on an NHL deal (one of the 50, not counting Couturier) and don’t get one back;
2) Send a player on the NHL roster through waivers, send him down to the AHL, have him fail to report, then void the contract on the breach.
That’s it.
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by Geoff Detweiler on Oct 11, 2011 9:24 AM EDT up reply actions
And it has to be a player on the NHL roster? Not just an NHL contract, right? So Waiving some of the stiffs mentioned the other day won’t get the job done.
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Well, you aren’t waiving players from an AHL roster, you’re assigning them to the ECHL. They still have their SPC (NHL contract), so that doesn’t change anything.
But you can trade away any SPC, regardless of what roster they are on.
Keeping alive the old Vaudeville joke, "I'd rather be dead than play Philadelphia."
Okay so even waiving does nothing, we have to trade guys with NHL contracts for literally bags of pucks.
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Waiving matters, in that in gives other teams the ability to assume one of our SPCs. Whether they do or not is speculative.
Keeping alive the old Vaudeville joke, "I'd rather be dead than play Philadelphia."
Again we are at the mercy of other teams taking guys off our hands. There is nothing we can do on our own.
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Exactly. The Flyers probably wouldn’t get much return on a trade, unless they decided to trade someone with such a high value that another team would willingly give up a bunch, even taking on (for example) a decade-long contract. But if the player is that valuable the Flyers would never trade them in the first place, right?
Often wrong, but never in doubt.
by A Flyers Phamily on Oct 11, 2011 9:45 AM EDT up reply actions
Truth. Apologies.
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by Geoff Detweiler on Oct 11, 2011 10:51 PM EDT up reply actions
Sorry, one more:
3) Waive a player, have him claimed by another team.
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by Geoff Detweiler on Oct 11, 2011 9:24 AM EDT up reply actions
this one works every time… right?!
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by edesjardins37 on Oct 11, 2011 9:26 AM EDT up reply actions
What about waiving a player and having him retire? (not that its any more likely than grasping at straws)
My son was born in Ottawa (Go Senators!) to a Father (Go Flyers!) and a Mother (Go Canucks!) who's families root for two different hockey teams (Go Habs!)(Go Bruins!) Little Maxwell is going to have such a confusing life.
Interesting question about retirement, actually.
If Lappy retired, would he still count? I’m not sure it’s an option, because the team would have to have cap space for him (he’d come off LTIR), but I still wonder about the answer.
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He would probably do whatever the FO asked of him and even he never expects to play again. It seems the contract is even more important then the cap at this point.
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Yeah, I’m sure he’d do whatever was asked.
I’m not so sure the contract is more important than the cap — if (emphasis on if) it would leave them without the money to have Couturier in the NHL, then what good does it do — but I’m still intrigued.
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I think it is an over 35 contract retirement actually makes it worse because you can no longer be placed on LTIR so the cap will count but maybe the contract won’t.
Yeah, it definitely means a cap hit. But right now the team might actually find it easier to create cap space (e.g. replacing Walker with Gus and Shelley with Betts) than a contract.
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Just to be clear, I don’t think they should do this, and I really doubt they would, but I’m curious whether they could.
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I think best bet is Betts retiring.
"When the Flyers win a playoff series, as they did this past year, is when you yell at me for being wrong? Because I said the Flyers won’t win a round'?
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That would be great for the team, but I don’t see why it would be good for the player, who has just a minor lower-body injury and believes he’s ready to play.
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And said as much in an interview on csn today. He can’t wait to heal up and help the team.
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Yea thats what I thought but after reading one of the stories in Geoff’s Fly By they kinda of eluded to the possibility of something like that. As in him maybe calling it quits if I am not mistaken.
"When the Flyers win a playoff series, as they did this past year, is when you yell at me for being wrong? Because I said the Flyers won’t win a round'?
Geoff Detweiler.
Couldn’t both parties agree to terminate a contract, player and team? I think it’s rare but I feel like I’ve heard of it happening before.
But Geoff is right. NHL contracts are pretty much guaranteed.
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by A Flyers Phamily on Oct 11, 2011 9:27 AM EDT up reply actions
They need to lose a contract just so that they can keep Couturier up? Why keep an 18-year-old in the bigs at the expense of an established player when he should be developing in the minors? Shouldn’t he be developing in the minors?
These questions aren’t rhetorical, by the way. I am so confused.
The velociraptor was offended when you used the word "fossil" as a derogatory term to describe that older player. "A 'fossil'?! MY MOTHER WAS A FOSSIL." You jerk.
by LeepinLizardz on Oct 11, 2011 9:31 AM EDT up reply actions
To give a clear outline of the whole situation:
Junior League teams have their own CBA’s. Couturier would have to report to the Qebec Major Juniors League, and the Flyers as an organization have been saying they fear it would limit his development. He is not eligible to report to the AHL Affiliate Phantoms.
Of our 50 contracts (actually 52, If couturier reports back to the Q his contract “slides” off the books for a year. Marcel Noebels who is in the Western Hockey League is contract 51 and his contract is already in this “slide” for the year.) There are some that are not prospects but also not in the NHL.
These include over the hill veterans, career AHLers, and players in Europe.
So yes, there are contracts we could afford to “lose.” Especailly our glut of Goalies. (multiple in Europe, 3-4 in the AHL, more in College or Juniors.) Now that we have Breezy for 9 years and Bob still.
The hard part is finding a team willing to take one of the contracts and give us something in return that isn’t a contract. Trading a career AHLer or a European for a pick when we are handcuffed would be really hard to get another GM to swallow.
My son was born in Ottawa (Go Senators!) to a Father (Go Flyers!) and a Mother (Go Canucks!) who's families root for two different hockey teams (Go Habs!)(Go Bruins!) Little Maxwell is going to have such a confusing life.
Gotcha.
I knew he couldn’t go to the Phantoms. But what I don’t understand is how going to Juniors limits his development. I realize he will dominate that league and maybe not be challenged enough, but I think we need to keep in mind that he’s still a teenager. Is it smart to expose him to a ruthless crowd when (not if) he hits the rookie wall and starts struggling for the first time?
Of course, I’m still fresh off attending a minor league baseball game in which top-prospect Domonic Brown was mercilessly booed after being sent down and taught a new position when they traded for Hunter Pence. He looked completely deflated. It was incredibly sad. I doubt he would’ve been booed had he not been called up too soon and pressed with too-high expectations in the first place.
I would rather see Couturier dominate in Juniors all year (or until the trade deadline or whatever) and get called up when he’s a little older- rather than have him up, hit a rookie wall/get tired in February, and become the next “I don’t know what the team even sees in him, he’s so over-rated” rookie. That’s an actual quote I heard from some very vocal dude in the stands behind me, right after he was done booing Brown. Maybe Flyers fans aren’t big enough d-bags to boo a rookie. But Phillies fans are, apparently, so I wouldn’t put it past anyone.
Of course, I’m no expert and the player-development people probably are. Just my opinion.
The velociraptor was offended when you used the word "fossil" as a derogatory term to describe that older player. "A 'fossil'?! MY MOTHER IS A FOSSIL." You jerk.
by LeepinLizardz on Oct 11, 2011 10:01 AM EDT up reply actions
Problem is, in the NFL and AHL the Flyers determines what he will learn and how he learns it. In the juniors they have 100% control over what and how he learns.
by Anders Jensen on Oct 11, 2011 10:05 AM EDT up reply actions
Oh, thanks. I didn’t know that.
The velociraptor was offended when you used the word "fossil" as a derogatory term to describe that older player. "A 'fossil'?! MY MOTHER IS A FOSSIL." You jerk.
by LeepinLizardz on Oct 11, 2011 10:19 AM EDT up reply actions
I was just listing the facts, but I am in the camp that going down for the year is better for him. Let him dominate one more year, let him be one of the team leaders for the World Juniors tournament for Team Canada in December/January.
I am getting less concerned seeing him play. (Only saw clips of him in NJ but though he looked much better than against Boston.)
I think for what he is contributing I would rather see Schenn up playing the same role.
My son was born in Ottawa (Go Senators!) to a Father (Go Flyers!) and a Mother (Go Canucks!) who's families root for two different hockey teams (Go Habs!)(Go Bruins!) Little Maxwell is going to have such a confusing life.
I’m worried about the possibility of getting booed with Schenn too, and Read to a lesser extent. It’s just that Couturier is still just a baby. Goodness, he’s not even old enough to drink.
Of course, no one really booed Bob when he struggled, not that I remember anyway, so maybe I’m just being paranoid here.
The velociraptor was offended when you used the word "fossil" as a derogatory term to describe that older player. "A 'fossil'?! MY MOTHER IS A FOSSIL." You jerk.
by LeepinLizardz on Oct 11, 2011 10:24 AM EDT up reply actions
I like to compare this situation to that of Tyler Seguin. Its a very similar situation in that they both dominated in junior and then showed up and had a very strong training camp and made their respective teams. I really like what boston decided to do with him. Did he struggle through the season? Absolutely, but he doesn’t get anywheres close to that experience had he gone back to junior and practically been a celebrity. This is why I like the idea, you can protect your young guy and put him in situations where he can suceed while gaining the valuable experience that he just can’t get anywhere else. Just an opinion though, of course.
by kckrebs on Oct 11, 2011 11:15 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
The Flyers can’t afford to gibe any of their rookies the soft zone starts Seguin got. Their learning curve is even steeper.
I’m not saying it won’t work or they can’t handle it, but the analog isn’t quite right.
Keeping alive the old Vaudeville joke, "I'd rather be dead than play Philadelphia."
I am also not sure Sequin entered the league being known for two-way play.
Here is the hockey futures analysis
Sean Couturier
Sean Couturier is a big, solid two-way centerman who has excellent vision, playmaking skills, a quick release, and a high hockey IQ. The big-bodied forward does not play a punishing physical game but can shield the puck with his body to set up a play. He has such a smooth skating style that his overall speed is deceptively quick but he could still improve his first few steps. The 18-year-old is also a solid defensive presence and can play just as well on the penalty kill as the power play
Tyler Sequin
A skilled offensive player who is equally adept at scoring goals as well as setting them up. His defensive game is fairly well-developed, as well, and he plays in all situations. Seguin is the kind of player you can build a team around.
So we have to trade Hartnell and Rinaldo and anyone else to Nashville for the highest pick we can get.
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Nashville is a team with a tight internal budget that relies heavily on Entry Level Contracts value to stay competative. They are not going to throw money OR picks around like a team that spends to the cap.
Honestly, Hartnell’s salary is still on the high side for his value, and giving up a pick would be a further decrease in the value of the trade.
I don’t think Nashville would offer us a pick.
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I am not talking 1 or 2, I’m talking 4 or 5. They are close to actually competing for the a WCF. Hartnell is a pretty nice addition to a team in that position. He adds grit and scoring for either of there top 2 lines. Yes it is a give away, but despite our early success this team will show some growing pains and learning curves. They are not competing for a cup this year. Having 4.2 off the books plus losing a couple contracts would be like taking a fast acting colon cleaner.
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There were rumors that Nashville brought Shea Weber to Arbitration over a total as small as 200k-500k between the two sides (not the 4+ mil difference each side presented at the Arbitration hearing, but in the actual pre-arbitration negotiations.)
Asking Nashville to take on 3.7mil (Hartnell’s current salary since he had a front-loaded contract) is a pretty hard pill to swallow.
My son was born in Ottawa (Go Senators!) to a Father (Go Flyers!) and a Mother (Go Canucks!) who's families root for two different hockey teams (Go Habs!)(Go Bruins!) Little Maxwell is going to have such a confusing life.
But this is because apparently management was caught flat-footed by the arb award. I’m guessing they felt Weber’s demands were completely unreasonable, and “enough’s enough”. Arbitration taught them a lesson.
I doubt Weber will be re-signed. However, this makes it more likely that Poile adds salary at the deadline, for one last go-round at getting deeper in the playoffs. The problem is, the Flyers cap problems start now, not in March. While I’ve posted about Hartnell rumors, I want to emphasize I find a trade now very unlikely. Other teams also would wait to wait to see if they “really” need offensive help.
Astaire and Rogers, G and Jagr
Hunter Pence did not guarantee a WS, but, then, neither did Carlos Beltran.
Just to complete the thought on Nashville, the converse is obviously true….if the Preds are totally out of it in March (a situation most of us doubt will occur) then you can expect Weber to be shopped.
Astaire and Rogers, G and Jagr
Hunter Pence did not guarantee a WS, but, then, neither did Carlos Beltran.
:( I want Weber as a Flyer so bad… and it will never happen…
My son was born in Ottawa (Go Senators!) to a Father (Go Flyers!) and a Mother (Go Canucks!) who's families root for two different hockey teams (Go Habs!)(Go Bruins!) Little Maxwell is going to have such a confusing life.
No cap space, for one, and Weber would command an insane bounty in draft picks and prospects, which I doubt the Flyers would be willing to part with.
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Betts for a 7th rounder would, though. Not sure why the team didn’t try that first, rather than putting him on waivers?
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Knowing he was really injured, or at least wouldn’t be able to play for a few weeks, would explain this. That would get him off the roster “now”. Don’t think the Flyers expected MTL to “return to sender.”
Astaire and Rogers, G and Jagr
Hunter Pence did not guarantee a WS, but, then, neither did Carlos Beltran.
I am all for moving Hartnell, but not without getting something in return. In fact, I think they should move him if they can, at least get a pick or two.
I always thought that Schenn would be brought up once Couturier got his 9 game audition out of the way but it seems like from what Lavi is saying, that may not be the case, and with the contract situation being what it is, I would think the Flyers would need to lose two contracts if they wanted to bring up Schenn and keep Couturier here.
Ed Snider is a crotchety old fuck.
That is all.
They only need to lose one contract to keep Couturier past 10 games. They can simply waive Walker and Shelley to get Schenn/Gus under the cap.
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by Geoff Detweiler on Oct 11, 2011 8:39 AM EDT up reply actions
So, if they make a move for draft picks they can keep him up. What do you think you could get for Hartnell?
"I repeat we have normality." She turned her microphone off — then turned it back on, with a slight smile and continued: "Anything you still can’t cope with is therefore your own problem."
I am guessing not a lot. Simply because it would have to be to a team that he would be willing to waive for. So the team wouldn’t offer us a fair value (see: Gagne, Simon)
My son was born in Ottawa (Go Senators!) to a Father (Go Flyers!) and a Mother (Go Canucks!) who's families root for two different hockey teams (Go Habs!)(Go Bruins!) Little Maxwell is going to have such a confusing life.
Right. I’d say 5th round pick at most. And I highly, highly doubt that happens.
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by Geoff Detweiler on Oct 11, 2011 9:25 AM EDT up reply actions
Agree, but would add that NMC/NTC are largely worthless in a case like this. The player knows if he refuses the trade, he’ll be pilloried by the team, fans and media.
But because Holmgren is over a barrel and Hartnell is a bit on the expensive side, no one is going to give good value for him.
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IMO I think the Flyers are going to have to way their options. I personally don’t think we should trade Hartnell (as much as I am not a fan of him or his contract) for just about nothing. I would rather send Couturier down bring Schenn up from the Phantoms and tinker with our cap. I think getting nothing for Hartnell at this point in the season is not smart. I like what I am seeing from Couturier but sending him down could not hurt, not when Schenn can step in.
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Geoff Detweiler.
Agreed. I think that’s better for everyone involved. Trading Hartnell for nothing so that we can keep an 18-year old rookie up isn’t a great move.
The velociraptor was offended when you used the word "fossil" as a derogatory term to describe that older player. "A 'fossil'?! MY MOTHER IS A FOSSIL." You jerk.
by LeepinLizardz on Oct 12, 2011 12:14 PM EDT up reply actions
Figured as much. Still, if it gets an opening to allow another player who may be more effective, it might be worth it.
"I repeat we have normality." She turned her microphone off — then turned it back on, with a slight smile and continued: "Anything you still can’t cope with is therefore your own problem."
I’d say we made out well on the last trade we made with Detroit so giving them Matt Walker for nothing is a perfect trade off.
We even Detroit, well except for 97. For that I will hate you with the intensity of a 1000 suns.
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dont underestimate the power of a shitty pick for Walker. prospects are prospects
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by CoburnsCuddleBuddy on Oct 11, 2011 9:05 AM EDT up reply actions
I’m fine with anything for Walker.
We got our money’s worth from Leino.
Waiting for cost metric to be proven wrong in 5,4,3,2,1.
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@boknows71
WRONG.
Boom.
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by Geoff Detweiler on Oct 11, 2011 9:16 AM EDT up reply actions
dick move…
yeah we got our moneys worth for Leino. Will Buffaslugs? Probably not.
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haha, is that proven wrong?
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by Geoff Detweiler on Oct 11, 2011 9:26 AM EDT up reply actions
I think so.
I’m pretty sure Eric did some work on it, possibly Value per point, and Leino was right up there near the tippy top of the team because of his tiny cap hit. (In an article proving the importance of ELCs)
My son was born in Ottawa (Go Senators!) to a Father (Go Flyers!) and a Mother (Go Canucks!) who's families root for two different hockey teams (Go Habs!)(Go Bruins!) Little Maxwell is going to have such a confusing life.
hehe I meant is me screaming “wrong” proving him wrong?
It’s not. I was joking.
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by Geoff Detweiler on Oct 11, 2011 10:53 PM EDT up reply actions
Not to nitpick but these don’t open in new windows/tabs.
Flyers Fans: We've survived Lock-outs, Lindros and Cooperalls. If you want to get rid of us, you'll have to split an atom or two.
right click on link, open in new tab
I eat sentimentality for breakfast, but stats stop me dead in my tracks
by CoburnsCuddleBuddy on Oct 11, 2011 9:11 AM EDT up reply actions
I’m just alerting Geoff because I’m pretty sure it’s an easy fix to help people out. It’s annoying to have to do it manually. I know I was told to click “open in new window” when I do the Fly-By.
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by KreiderDesigns on Oct 11, 2011 9:14 AM EDT up reply actions
Plus it was horrible because the first link I clicked was the picture of Calvert.
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by KreiderDesigns on Oct 11, 2011 9:15 AM EDT up reply actions
It’s actually not easy to fix once you eff it up.
:( I can’t remember effing that up before. I haz sad now.
Everybody point and laugh at me now.
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by Geoff Detweiler on Oct 11, 2011 9:16 AM EDT up reply actions
THIS IS BUSH LEAGUE
I eat sentimentality for breakfast, but stats stop me dead in my tracks
by CoburnsCuddleBuddy on Oct 11, 2011 9:21 AM EDT up reply actions
Points and Laughs
It just really annoys me because it messes up my “z” command if I get brought off the site (when I come back to the page its marked all comments as read, which can be a pain some days.)
My son was born in Ottawa (Go Senators!) to a Father (Go Flyers!) and a Mother (Go Canucks!) who's families root for two different hockey teams (Go Habs!)(Go Bruins!) Little Maxwell is going to have such a confusing life.
Yeah. Just gotta remember to right-click.
I really am sorry I messed it up for everyone.
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by Geoff Detweiler on Oct 11, 2011 9:27 AM EDT up reply actions
Ahh. i thought you could just recheck the box. Sorry dude. Had I known that I wouldn’t have pointed out your mistake publicly.
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by KreiderDesigns on Oct 11, 2011 9:23 AM EDT up reply actions
haha, no worries. I deserve these things.
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by Geoff Detweiler on Oct 11, 2011 9:26 AM EDT up reply actions
I was going to point and laugh but I changed my mind. I’m going to give you a hug and a reassuring “it will all be okay” pat on the back instead. I just saw that picture of Matt Calvert’s mouth and I was traumatized. I can’t imagine how you must feel! Poor dear.
The velociraptor was offended when you used the word "fossil" as a derogatory term to describe that older player. "A 'fossil'?! MY MOTHER WAS A FOSSIL." You jerk.
by LeepinLizardz on Oct 11, 2011 9:25 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
hahaha, that is so thoughtful of you!
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by Geoff Detweiler on Oct 11, 2011 9:26 AM EDT up reply actions
I’m not a fan of blood, so I might skip the Calvert picture and I don’t want to be traumatized all day
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Good idea.
The velociraptor was offended when you used the word "fossil" as a derogatory term to describe that older player. "A 'fossil'?! MY MOTHER IS A FOSSIL." You jerk.
by LeepinLizardz on Oct 11, 2011 9:39 AM EDT up reply actions
Who wants exclusive video of a DSOD goal in Peoria? Bidding starts at $100.
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What kind of video are we talking about here, Ben?
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One in which DSOD scores.
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by Ben Rothenberg on Oct 11, 2011 9:36 AM EDT up reply actions
Did not see “goal.” Sex joke fail.
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Oh wow.
No, that video has not yet come back from the guy I hired to do subtitles.
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by Ben Rothenberg on Oct 11, 2011 10:05 AM EDT up reply actions
Oh. You guys, I’m apparently a pervert. I thought that’s what Ben meant by scoring.
The velociraptor was offended when you used the word "fossil" as a derogatory term to describe that older player. "A 'fossil'?! MY MOTHER IS A FOSSIL." You jerk.
by LeepinLizardz on Oct 11, 2011 10:21 AM EDT up reply actions
In other news, no one is bidding, and that makes me sad.
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by Ben Rothenberg on Oct 11, 2011 10:25 AM EDT up reply actions
But Wayne Simmonds was born to wear orange and black.
I feel like I read that line about every player every year. Mike Richards was born to wear it too. And now Coburn is the longest tenured Flyer.
"Can I refill your eggnog for you? Get you something to eat? Drive you out to the middle of nowhere and leave you for dead?"
by PraiseMartyMoose on Oct 11, 2011 9:34 AM EDT reply actions
Thats because Coburn was born to wear Orange and Black.
And also to be Beastly.
My son was born in Ottawa (Go Senators!) to a Father (Go Flyers!) and a Mother (Go Canucks!) who's families root for two different hockey teams (Go Habs!)(Go Bruins!) Little Maxwell is going to have such a confusing life.
I’m trying to decide what jersey I’ll stick with at games this year. I’m strongly considering my Coburn Thrashers jersey.
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I don’t believe Bryzgalov was, though I enjoy him (cold feet still though)
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by Cillo stache on Oct 11, 2011 10:32 AM EDT up reply actions
I think he was.
The man’s funny as hell. He reminds me alot of Roenick.
by BannedStreetBully on Oct 11, 2011 12:25 PM EDT up reply actions
I changed Geoff’s links to open in a new page. Refresh and it should work for you.
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Who needs to go to the links? I basically get all I need to know from Geoff’s description.
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by MJDII on Oct 11, 2011 10:42 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
This is funny.
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by Geoff Detweiler on Oct 11, 2011 10:54 PM EDT up reply actions
Slow around here today. Obviously, everyone is focused on 2012 Euro qualifying.
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Maybe their jobs? Nah, that’s not it.
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school?
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by Cillo stache on Oct 11, 2011 10:55 AM EDT up reply actions
Stay in school as long as possible. Trust me!!! The Real World sucks and I’m not talking the MTV show.
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I intend to, I got plenty of time and graduations to go
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by Cillo stache on Oct 11, 2011 11:43 AM EDT up reply actions
You’d better believe I’m rooting for Montenegro.
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by Ben Rothenberg on Oct 11, 2011 10:57 AM EDT up reply actions
That’s wasted energy! They are locked into the 2nd place playoffs.
You might as well root for Scotland today, instead. No reason not to.
Keeping alive the old Vaudeville joke, "I'd rather be dead than play Philadelphia."
I’m actually pretty torn today, because I always support Ireland, but Armenia is such a cool story. Also, holding my breath for Estonia. And Norway would be fun, but seems impossible.
But the game I’ll be streaming is Moldova and my No. 1s, San Marino. Great piece on them yesterday in the NYT.
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by Ben Rothenberg on Oct 11, 2011 11:57 AM EDT up reply actions
Funny thing is I am totally focused on Euro qualifiers today. Pumped! Germany v. Belgium on ESPN 2 at 1! Holler!
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by Mitchell Green on Oct 11, 2011 12:23 PM EDT up reply actions
So torn for that game. I lived in Germany for a bit, but Belgium is my favorite country that I’ve been to; decisions.
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It’s actually a pretty interesting game because while Germany have completely run away with Group A (9-0-0, 27 pts) Belgium is in second (4-2-3, 15 pts) just one point ahead of Turkey (4-3-2, 14 pts). Turkey is playing Azerbaijan and really have no excuse not win and get 3 points, putting them at 17 points. For Belgium, a draw versus Germany won’t be good enough to secure second place which would mean they’d be out.
Seems like Germany has started a very strong side with the likes of Ozil, Khedira, Muller and Lahm in the starting eleven so Belgium will really have to attack and get the win. They have a very promising young team with the likes of Hazard, Kompany, Witsel and Lukaku so I’d love to see them get the result and get into Euro 2012.
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by Mitchell Green on Oct 11, 2011 1:09 PM EDT up reply actions
2-0 to Germany just 33 minutes in. Turkey hasn’t scored yet but Belgium are in huge trouble.
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by Mitchell Green on Oct 11, 2011 1:34 PM EDT up reply actions
Just found out I am getting Flyers tickets for Christmas to the Jan 7th game vs Ottawa. It will be my first live game. So pumped
What did you do look in your parents closet?
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Yeah but how did you find out?
//so sorry. Couldn’t resist.
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by KreiderDesigns on Oct 11, 2011 11:20 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
She had told me she had a big surprise for my gift. (she is horrible at keeping secrets) Then she was telling a story about how she was talking to someone and mentioned she was going to a hockey game. She does not go to hockey games so i stopped her there. Then she got mad because she could tell I put two and two together and so she just told me what date.
I was making a joke.
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by KreiderDesigns on Oct 11, 2011 11:24 AM EDT up reply actions
You know now you are on the hook for some expensive swag, right? Double what she spent.
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You might have to go jewelry.
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$25 are you kidding. This chick just got him Flyer tickets. He has to at least shell out a Hundy.
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Mitchell and Ness make a head coach cardigan for the Flyers. Thoughts?
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by CoburnsCuddleBuddy on Oct 11, 2011 11:11 AM EDT reply actions
Pics?
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by KreiderDesigns on Oct 11, 2011 11:20 AM EDT up reply actions
Looked it up. Pretty cool if you can pull it off. I doubt I ever could.
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by KreiderDesigns on Oct 11, 2011 11:25 AM EDT up reply actions
Pics?
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Good call

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by KreiderDesigns on Oct 11, 2011 11:26 AM EDT up reply actions
Not interested without the leather patches on the elbows/
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Haha. True. I could totally see Don in this though.
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by KreiderDesigns on Oct 11, 2011 11:29 AM EDT up reply actions
You gonna buy it for me? If you buy it, you know I’ll rock the shit out of it.
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85 dollars is steep, but man it looks classy as fuck
I eat sentimentality for breakfast, but stats stop me dead in my tracks
by CoburnsCuddleBuddy on Oct 11, 2011 11:36 AM EDT up reply actions
The cuffs are kind of ruining it for me, but I’m willing to over look them for the sweet patch pockets
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i saw the cuffs and thought they looked off too
I eat sentimentality for breakfast, but stats stop me dead in my tracks
by CoburnsCuddleBuddy on Oct 11, 2011 11:38 AM EDT up reply actions
Yeah, the stripe between the two white ones should be orange.
If Brzy doesn't do right by Bob I'll kick his $51 million ass across the WFC.
It’s not the color for me, it’s that it is more the type of cuffs you would see on a jacket than you would a sweater. Doesn’t go with the look IMO. But it’s hard to comment on a picture.
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You going with a turtleneck and hipster glasses as well?
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this aint hipster. you could literally go to a formal party and rock this shit
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by CoburnsCuddleBuddy on Oct 11, 2011 11:37 AM EDT up reply actions
It’s certainly not formal by any means.
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it’s a cardigan. also, looks like something a head coach would wear behind the bench with a fedora. that sir, is classy
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by CoburnsCuddleBuddy on Oct 11, 2011 11:39 AM EDT up reply actions
Formal wear is pretty specific, a cardigan is not part of formal wear. Whether it’s classy or not is something entirely different. It be classy as a 3rd piece to complete a look at a function that doesn’t require a suit or evening dress, but it be classless as formal wear, especially after 6pm.
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I don’t wear turtlenecks, but I’ll probably go with a nice dress shirt. I also have no clue what hipster glasses are.
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I can’t really find any two that match on that page. Not getting it.
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by KreiderDesigns on Oct 11, 2011 11:40 AM EDT up reply actions
Let Sean Avery (NA) explain it to you
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Most appear obnoxious, I would assume that’s the common theme.
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and ironically not ironic.
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You can see the glasses I wear in my picture on here. I’ll let you decide what they are.
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I’ve always been distracted by the candle hat.
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Yeah, future mother-in-law wouldn’t shut up until I put it on for my party. Once I got drunk, I didn’t mind as much.
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If you haven’t realized already you don’t marry a woman. You marry a family.
Best of luck.
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Yeah, my second sentence keeps coming in to play more and more.
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Yea you lean. Cardigans with buttons aren’t a look for fat guys like myself.
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This. I couldn’t do it that’s for sure.
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by KreiderDesigns on Oct 11, 2011 11:39 AM EDT up reply actions
negative. just get a larger size. id prolly get a 3xl
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by CoburnsCuddleBuddy on Oct 11, 2011 11:40 AM EDT up reply actions
I think it’s OK if your tall and chubby, but short and squat—my husband couldn’t wear it without looking like a fat Mr. Rogers.
What kind of plane is it? Oh, it's a big pretty white plane with red stripes, curtains in the windows and wheels and it looks like a big ol' Tylenol.
this is what i needed to hear
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by CoburnsCuddleBuddy on Oct 11, 2011 11:42 AM EDT up reply actions
I’m tall and chubby (actually I’m a obese man trapped in a fat man’s body) and I wouldn’t even walk down the aisle where these are being sold.
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Problem is that cardigans create a line—and look soooo much better on thin people because they elongate. When you’re short or fat, the line is interrupted. This is a tough look to pull off.
What kind of plane is it? Oh, it's a big pretty white plane with red stripes, curtains in the windows and wheels and it looks like a big ol' Tylenol.
My lines are definitely interrupted.
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As are mine. I’m 5’4". Too short for anything like this.
What kind of plane is it? Oh, it's a big pretty white plane with red stripes, curtains in the windows and wheels and it looks like a big ol' Tylenol.
How you feelin’ HH. Getting on with your life yet? I have to actually say I was more angry Sunday then Friday night or even Saturday. Not sure why?
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I wasn’t angry that the Phillies lost, just disappointed. I expected them to lose at some point, because the odds of winning it all are so slim. I am angrier at the Eagles because they are so sloppy. Losing is one thing; not playing fundamentals is another.
What kind of plane is it? Oh, it's a big pretty white plane with red stripes, curtains in the windows and wheels and it looks like a big ol' Tylenol.
I’m actually actively routing against the Eagles for change sake. I know it’s petty but it’s all I got.
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womens cardigans, on the other hand, would work quite well
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by Cillo stache on Oct 11, 2011 11:58 AM EDT up reply actions
Hmm. I’m tall and skinny, maybe I could pull it off. I’d have no idea what to wear with it though. I’m completely fashion inept. Yet my wife still insists on asking me “does this look okay?”….
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Tall and skinny? easy.
or 




no turtlenecks. or polo shirts.
dress pant option: style: straight leg taper. shoes: I ‘d go with a pair of creepers. fitted dress shirt.
black jeans options: style: straight taper. shoes: vans, creepers. or if your a boot wearer and you happen to wear logger or Red Wing boots (my preferred boot -expensive but you won’t regret it) and they don’t look like shit from work or jump boots from waywayway back in the day, fitted t-shirt
no turtlenecks. or polo shirts.
Dammit. I’m an engineer. I have a zillion polo shirts. :-p
On the other hand, I do have a pair of dark, boot-cut jeans I got last year that I love. I didn’t realize how bad my normal “relaxed fit” jeans looked on me until I tried these ones. And I’ve started buying t-shirts that actually fit me instead of the XL free ones I accumulated in college. Maybe there’s hope for me yet…
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yep, old habits die hard
though I haven’t had a pair in ages. Haven’t been able to find them except on-line and well, I like to try shit on. Returning stuff thru the mail is a pain in the ass.


Creepers is fun
I got my “Wacking Off to Betty Page Pics and Listening to Cramps when I was 14” Punk Rock Merit Badge so I really don’t give fuck.
I ‘ve been a carpenter for 15+ years so I finally got my “My Common Workingman” Merit Badge – I’ve earned my right to be an unrepentant snob after years of listening to Rush Limbaugh, country music and G. Gordon Liddy at work.
…did you just pick out his outfit on a hockey blog?
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by Cillo stache on Oct 11, 2011 7:44 PM EDT up reply actions
I could see you rocking the Mr Belvedere of hockey look
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teaching hockey in a cardigan and a tie and vest
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by CoburnsCuddleBuddy on Oct 11, 2011 11:47 AM EDT up reply actions
I would do it
Then again, there’s a Hartford Whalers one too
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by CoburnsCuddleBuddy on Oct 11, 2011 11:28 AM EDT up reply actions
I’ve seen the Whalers one in stores and it does look pretty damn sharp. I like the cardigan, just not sure I’m tall enough to pull it off. Or thin enough.
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That is so sexy.
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by Ben Rothenberg on Oct 11, 2011 11:51 AM EDT up reply actions
So now Geoff is stalking Matt Calvert by way of his brother Marko? What good can come from this for anyone else?
BTW, nice nose hair there.
Realistically, I want to know what/who Geoff would trade to get Matt Calvert.
by flyerboom_6 on Oct 11, 2011 12:46 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Yeah, the list is so long, I’d need to first run down who Columbus would actually want.
I’d say no to: Schenn, Couturier, Giroux, JVR, and… Not many after that.
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by Geoff Detweiler on Oct 11, 2011 10:56 PM EDT up reply actions
Bob McKenzie RT’d the image, which is how I saw it.
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by Geoff Detweiler on Oct 11, 2011 10:55 PM EDT up reply actions
Radio Show
Where is it? I needs mah podcast goodness.
by BannedStreetBully on Oct 11, 2011 12:16 PM EDT reply actions
Yesterday, they said they’re having technical issues. So it’s understandable why it’s not posted yet. I know Ben was having issues with stuff in the recap for Game 1.
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The Flyers should stop playing right now, the commercial will be almost right, and we’ll have the best season any team in sports ever had! And Bryz’s small sample size will suddenly become a FULL SEASON SAMPLE!
It's in his wheelhouse!!
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I doubt 4 points gets them into the playoffs though.
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by Eric T. on Oct 11, 2011 1:30 PM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
But we’d still be ahead of the Islanders.
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"I think there is virtue in pissing off idiots." - Fehr and Balanced
So Tony Bruno was giving away tickets to tomorrow’s home opener on 97.5 today. They were taking calls to give them out, and whoever his sidekick is yelled, “FLYERROB is banned from winning the tickets!” That has to be our FLYERROB, right?
I'm kind of a dick.
Gotta be.
What kind of plane is it? Oh, it's a big pretty white plane with red stripes, curtains in the windows and wheels and it looks like a big ol' Tylenol.
Yeah, I remember a couple of instances where someone asked on here if that was him who had just called into a radio show and he said yes.
But what I wonder: what do you have to do to get banned from Tony Freaking Bruno’s show?
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I didn’t think it was possible, but I’m thinking there’s a few blogs up north who feel it’s probably not difficult given the guy’s propensity to say/write dumb shit.
What kind of plane is it? Oh, it's a big pretty white plane with red stripes, curtains in the windows and wheels and it looks like a big ol' Tylenol.
Is “Be FLYERRob” one of the possible answers?
G, the second coming of Foppa.
Embrace the Jagr.*
by JerseyDriver on Oct 11, 2011 8:19 PM EDT up reply actions
Bahahahahahaha
"Simba needs to sharpen his claws" - Ilya Bryzgalov, on Scott Hartnell
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Scott Hartnell
Is live:
https://www.facebook.com/#!/pages/Scott-Hartnell/150734281684645
He lists Broad Street Hockey as one of his “likes”. Or, his people do. Whatever.
What kind of plane is it? Oh, it's a big pretty white plane with red stripes, curtains in the windows and wheels and it looks like a big ol' Tylenol.
Sorry Scott I didn’t mean anything with my trade talk. Hope were cool now.
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DISCLAIMER: Information written above may not be entirely factual nor provable with the use of complex statistics. But it may induce thought, humor and possibly laughter.
You’re dead to him. MJDII.
What kind of plane is it? Oh, it's a big pretty white plane with red stripes, curtains in the windows and wheels and it looks like a big ol' Tylenol.
I hope he/they know that won’t prevent us from joking about Scotty. Then again, the whole “Fartsmell” incident showed he has a good sense of humor anyway, so maybe he comes here for the jokes (and stays for the advanced statistical analysis).
Bob.

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