Thursday Morning Fly By: The Enemy of My Enemy Is My Friend, So... Go Cancer? Waaaaait...
Today's open discussion thread, complete with your daily dose of Philadelphia Flyers news and notes...
- Recaps: [BSH] [CSNPhilly] [Inquirer] [Flyers Faithful] [The Checking Line] [delcotimes] [NHL Hot Stove] [Philly Sports Daily] [Daily News] [HockeyBuzz]
- Thoughts through three games: [Flyers Faithful]
- Sean Couturier has made his case to stay with the Flyers all year: [Philly Sports Daily]
- About that whole "lack of offense thing"... [Philly Sports Daily]
- Great find by Frank Seravalli that NHL players will be getting a refund from NHL due to paying too much escrow: [Daily News]
- So Flyers fans booed an anti-cancer commercial featuring Sidney Crosby, Jonathan Toews, and Ryan Miller last night. Naturally, it's a story: [Puck Daddy]
- More realignment talk, and believe it or not, Detroit is willing to stay in the West so long as their road trips to western Canada and California are rarer: [Puck Daddy]
- The Penguins' Joe Vitale was late getting to the faceoff, the linesman dropped the puck, and it resulted in a Panthers goal: [SBNation.com]
- Another leaked image of the Islanders third jerseys, with a favorable opinion? [icethetics]
- Tracking injury data to see what injuries cost: [The Copper & Blue]
- And looking at how much wins cost: [Arctic Ice Hockey]
- Brendan Shanahan made a video message to NHL players, and it's just awesome: [Down Goes Brown]
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I’m so sick of the “Philly fans are the worst” comments all of the out of towners have. I was at the NJ Devils home opener on Sat and fans were yelling Flyers suck during the MOMENT OF SILENCE. Why was there no story about that? Voracek even Tweeted about it. I was at last nights game too, people spontaneously booed Crosby when they saw his face…no one knew why he was on the screen.
by lava96 on Oct 13, 2011 6:50 AM EDT via mobile reply actions
I was there too. What an embarrassment to their fan base…especially since the moment of silence was immediately following a touching clip about the 3 organization members who died. I think it’s also funny how you see children screaming their “suck…swallow” cheer….but we’re the classless ones.
by IG on Oct 13, 2011 8:48 AM EDT up reply actions
I almost forgot
While standing in a ridiculous line to enter the arena (which never happens at the WFC) some scumbag with his son, who couldn’t have been older than 9 or 10, started yelling at my 8 year old son with the Rangers Suck…Flyers Swallow chant. I took the opportunity to explain to my son that this is a good example of why that child will fail out of school, never go to college and collect money off of the government for the rest of his life while he gets addicted to drugs and/or alcohol. I’d like to thank that man and his child for the educational opportunity.
Yea I was there too, and even heard an “F—- the Flyers” shout during the moment of silence for the Lokomotiv victims. That shit never makes headlines, but Philly fans booing during a PSA is worthy of an article? Give me a break. I’m sick of our fans getting a bad rap because people immediately lose their sense of humor when Philadelphia is involved.
After 10 years, I still can't figure out how Jiri Dopita had a 4 goal game and disappeared.
It’s an unfortunate coincidence, but they couldn’t have given us any other superstars to be representing the fight against cancer?
Stamkos?
St. Louis?
Ovechkin?
I eat sentimentality for breakfast, but stats stop me dead in my tracks
by CoburnsCuddleBuddy on Oct 13, 2011 8:10 AM EDT reply actions
Or have each team have representative players involved in the fight against cancer to avoid these situations. Why couldn’t Pronger Giroux and Hartnell do a spot to be shown in Philly?
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IMO Toews and Crosby will elicit the biggest and most numerous negative responses. The NHL PR firm needs to do a better job of analyzing home crowds.
I agree the fight against cancer should be enough, but hell, there are Crosby sucks chants when the Pens aren’t even in town
I eat sentimentality for breakfast, but stats stop me dead in my tracks
by CoburnsCuddleBuddy on Oct 13, 2011 8:22 AM EDT up reply actions
Some Pens fans have taken offense to the fact that Philly fans were booing Crosby while he’s still injured…
Simon Gagne AND Mike Richards may move between towns, wear new jerseys and call different arenas home but, at the end of the day, they will both always be Philadelphia Flyers.
One day Sean Couturier will win the Conn Smythe. You heard it here first.
by PursuitOfLappyness on Oct 13, 2011 8:24 AM EDT up reply actions
I’m going to take offense when they boo Jagr when he gave them 2 Stanley Cups.
I eat sentimentality for breakfast, but stats stop me dead in my tracks
by CoburnsCuddleBuddy on Oct 13, 2011 8:32 AM EDT up reply actions 4 recs
To be fair to them, the seasons between their Stanley Cups and the 05 Draft – when Jagr was their team – were kind of a blur.
Simon Gagne AND Mike Richards may move between towns, wear new jerseys and call different arenas home but, at the end of the day, they will both always be Philadelphia Flyers.
One day Sean Couturier will win the Conn Smythe. You heard it here first.
by PursuitOfLappyness on Oct 13, 2011 8:58 AM EDT up reply actions
it just pisses me off because we treat our Cup winners like royalty 36 years later and they boo one of theirs 19 years later
I eat sentimentality for breakfast, but stats stop me dead in my tracks
by CoburnsCuddleBuddy on Oct 13, 2011 9:01 AM EDT up reply actions
I’m sure Terry Crisp heard some boos when he coached the Lightning, don’t you think?
Flyers Fans: We've survived Lock-outs, Lindros and Cooperalls. If you want to get rid of us, you'll have to split an atom or two.
by KreiderDesigns on Oct 13, 2011 9:17 AM EDT up reply actions
why would anyone boo him?
I eat sentimentality for breakfast, but stats stop me dead in my tracks
by CoburnsCuddleBuddy on Oct 13, 2011 9:20 AM EDT up reply actions
Cause he coached the Lightning during a rivalry.
Flyers Fans: We've survived Lock-outs, Lindros and Cooperalls. If you want to get rid of us, you'll have to split an atom or two.
by KreiderDesigns on Oct 13, 2011 10:08 AM EDT up reply actions
the Lightning’s best year was barely 500. How does that constitute a rivalry under Crisp?
I eat sentimentality for breakfast, but stats stop me dead in my tracks
by CoburnsCuddleBuddy on Oct 13, 2011 11:04 AM EDT up reply actions
sorry, 537, surround by years of fail
I eat sentimentality for breakfast, but stats stop me dead in my tracks
by CoburnsCuddleBuddy on Oct 13, 2011 11:05 AM EDT up reply actions
hmmm…I guess I just remember that 95 playoff as being much bigger than it was. I remember I hated Crisp. I did not know he was a former Flyer and a Cup winner but I still don’t like him that much.
Flyers Fans: We've survived Lock-outs, Lindros and Cooperalls. If you want to get rid of us, you'll have to split an atom or two.
by KreiderDesigns on Oct 13, 2011 11:15 AM EDT up reply actions
We’ve never had a rivalry with the Lightning.
Keeping alive the old Vaudeville joke, "I'd rather be dead than play Philadelphia."
See above, I just blew the 95 series out of proportion, thinking it was multiple years in a row that we met in the playoffs. Probably because that series is one I remember more than most.
Flyers Fans: We've survived Lock-outs, Lindros and Cooperalls. If you want to get rid of us, you'll have to split an atom or two.
by KreiderDesigns on Oct 13, 2011 12:46 PM EDT up reply actions
We’ve never had a rivalry with the Lightning.
Tell that to the guys that are still shaking their fists over 2004.
(I know there are a few here.)
My son was born in Ottawa (Go Senators!) to a Father (Go Flyers!) and a Mother (Go Canucks!) who's families root for two different hockey teams (Go Habs!)(Go Bruins!) Little Maxwell is going to have such a confusing life.
They’ve already done that.
Ed Snider is a crotchety old fuck.
That is all.
by EREX21 on Oct 13, 2011 9:09 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
don’t remind me of those ungrateful little shits. You don’t have to kiss the guy’s ass, but pay him the due respect he deserves, even if that means being quiet
I eat sentimentality for breakfast, but stats stop me dead in my tracks
by CoburnsCuddleBuddy on Oct 13, 2011 9:13 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
For the record, I don’t care what pens fans think.
"I repeat we have normality." She turned her microphone off — then turned it back on, with a slight smile and continued: "Anything you still can’t cope with is therefore your own problem."
by Mike B on D on Oct 13, 2011 10:00 AM EDT up reply actions
Fans can argue it was entrapment. Or that they were actually booing the cancer. Hopefully they have Dennis Potvin and Dave Brown in the commercial at MSG.
by flyersfaninchicago on Oct 13, 2011 9:09 AM EDT up reply actions
Or just use the truth, everyone outside of Pittsburgh is sick and tired of seeing his face everywhere..
"I repeat we have normality." She turned her microphone off — then turned it back on, with a slight smile and continued: "Anything you still can’t cope with is therefore your own problem."
by Mike B on D on Oct 13, 2011 10:05 AM EDT up reply actions
DGB is an absolute hoot!
If Brzy doesn't do right by Bob I'll kick his $51 million ass across the WFC.
Really shouldn't read PuckDaddy comments
Philly fans aren’t pro-cancer… They ARE a cancer!!
And there was more in that comment which I will not merit a post on this distuinguished blog.
Simon Gagne AND Mike Richards may move between towns, wear new jerseys and call different arenas home but, at the end of the day, they will both always be Philadelphia Flyers.
One day Sean Couturier will win the Conn Smythe. You heard it here first.
by PursuitOfLappyness on Oct 13, 2011 8:23 AM EDT reply actions
Pay no attention to that biased writer behind the curtain… he’s a Devils fan.
Often wrong, but never in doubt.
by A Flyers Phamily on Oct 13, 2011 8:31 AM EDT up reply actions
actually, Wysh was defending us
Lambert is the douchebag of the group
I eat sentimentality for breakfast, but stats stop me dead in my tracks
by CoburnsCuddleBuddy on Oct 13, 2011 8:34 AM EDT up reply actions
I read that article as sarcasm with a specific direction: “Pleeeaassee don’t hate the Flyers’ fans because they booed the anti-cancer ad! They can’t be THAT classless, right?”
Perhaps my own bias is coloring my perception.
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by A Flyers Phamily on Oct 13, 2011 8:52 AM EDT up reply actions
I guess my issue wasn’t with Wysh, who I read same as you (defending Philly), but with the fact that unfortunately, most readers of PD probably don’t have the mental capacity to understand his point.
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by Chemistry66 on Oct 13, 2011 12:06 PM EDT up reply actions
I like the guy that says he wishes everyone who booed will get cancert. Now that’s class!
Flyers Fans: We've survived Lock-outs, Lindros and Cooperalls. If you want to get rid of us, you'll have to split an atom or two.
by KreiderDesigns on Oct 13, 2011 8:35 AM EDT up reply actions
I don’t read PD much anymore, but I read this one and, surprisingly, it didn’t infuriate me like I expected it would from the headline.
But I know better than to go anywhere near the comments section.
Lightning strikes once, Hextall strikes twice!
"I think there is virtue in pissing off idiots." - Fehr and Balanced
Nice.
Might as well just hand them over.
by All ur Aces R Belong to Us on Oct 13, 2011 1:20 PM EDT up reply actions
There was an article about this on MSN/FoxSports as well. it basically said the same thing. It mentioned that the fans should think before booing. I think the NHL should have done some market research before sending these PSAs out to the arenas, but whatever.
The comments were for the most part pro-Philly and called the writer out for making this into a thing and not mentioning the standing ovation a soldier and police officer received last night.
Its just like how its Crosby-Stamkos-Ovechkin on the loading screen for NHL GCL.
Their face’s print money for the league.
well, at least you went for the full monty of missing and inappropriately placed apostrophes. As redemption, you used the correct “their”.
Its just like how its Crosby-Stamkos-Ovechkin on the loading screen for NHL GCL.
Their face’s print money for the league.
“It’s just like how it’s…” and “Their faces…”
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You know people/media forget that Mario returned in Philly after battling cancer and was given a standing ovation…
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Yeah, nobody remembers that because it doesn’t fit the narrative.
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by Geoff Detweiler on Oct 13, 2011 8:39 AM EDT up reply actions
Narratives! They’re everywhere!
Simon Gagne AND Mike Richards may move between towns, wear new jerseys and call different arenas home but, at the end of the day, they will both always be Philadelphia Flyers.
One day Sean Couturier will win the Conn Smythe. You heard it here first.
by PursuitOfLappyness on Oct 13, 2011 8:55 AM EDT up reply actions
And you get a narrative, and you and you and you!!!!!!!!

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Dears boknows;
F you.
Signed Vermont.
My son was born in Ottawa (Go Senators!) to a Father (Go Flyers!) and a Mother (Go Canucks!) who's families root for two different hockey teams (Go Habs!)(Go Bruins!) Little Maxwell is going to have such a confusing life.
But I love your delicious microbrews, and ice cream, and jam bands,and syrup, and cute hippie chicks.
Please don’t hate me. Texas can kiss my ass but Vermont I needs ya.
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You need to actually come to VT to experience the beer. Most of the places that sell their brand of beer have a brew pub up here of some kind.
All time favorite if your ever in Burlington is the Vermont Pub and Brewery. Also right in Burlington are Flatbread Pizza, and Three Needs.
My son was born in Ottawa (Go Senators!) to a Father (Go Flyers!) and a Mother (Go Canucks!) who's families root for two different hockey teams (Go Habs!)(Go Bruins!) Little Maxwell is going to have such a confusing life.
Or that the Flyers Wives Fight for Lives Charity is the most successful charity in the NHL and I am sure a fair portion of that money goes towards Cancer.
As stated on the charities website.
he money raised during fundraising initiatives has helped the Foundation assist many local beneficiaries such as but not limited to…… Penn Hospice at Rittenhouse, Foundation for Melanoma Research, and Living Beyond Breast Cancer.
The Flyers fans booed Crosby I don’t care if Crosby is saving kittens from Fires his face in our arena equals BOO CROSBY SUCKS.
Selective history at it’s finest to a promote a old narrative. Not a single reference to flyers fans giving a standing ovation to Mario LemIeux when he came back from cancer.
My bad. Already mentioned. I like how dodger fans practically kill a guy in the parking lot, cubs fans jump onto the field and attack a third base coach, and Boston fans chuck beers at hockey players on the ice after games and Philly fans still are considered the worst.
Rangers fans chasing opposing fans through the streets of NY after playoff losses. Montreal fans rioting and burning police cars when they win. Vancouver burning down the city last year. Calgary rioting after playoff losses. (Ok, It’s been a while since this happened but still.)
Waah waah waah.
"I repeat we have normality." She turned her microphone off — then turned it back on, with a slight smile and continued: "Anything you still can’t cope with is therefore your own problem."
by Mike B on D on Oct 13, 2011 10:58 AM EDT up reply actions
In fairness, Montreal and Vancouver fans have gotten pretty negative labels too.
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Every city has good fans, and every city has shitty fans. The shitty fans are just the ones that make the news. Done.
Lightning strikes once, Hextall strikes twice!
"I think there is virtue in pissing off idiots." - Fehr and Balanced
At this point I’m almost as sick of the complaining about the labels as I am about the labels.
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I’m getting sick of the complaining about the complaining about the labels.
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That’s some existential shit.
What kind of plane is it? Oh, it's a big pretty white plane with red stripes, curtains in the windows and wheels and it looks like a big ol' Tylenol.
Are you getting sick of waiting for your Flyers swag?
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While some can complain about not getting enough stuff for free, I don’t find that I get annoyed if I get some great free stuff but it takes a while to show up.
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Now you’ll have 2 magnets to add to the shipment since it’s taken me so long to send. So at least more stuff is getting added as I slack.
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Oh-kayyy!
I’m just too excited you see…

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RIP Karel, Jan & Josef.
It’s just funny how they don’t stick or get harped on as much.
Personally I don’t care about the reputation we have. If people stay away that means more seats for hometown fans.
"I repeat we have normality." She turned her microphone off — then turned it back on, with a slight smile and continued: "Anything you still can’t cope with is therefore your own problem."
An added benefit, I find, is that when I tell folks I’m a Philly fan, I always get a wide berth. I think it’s hilarious.
What kind of plane is it? Oh, it's a big pretty white plane with red stripes, curtains in the windows and wheels and it looks like a big ol' Tylenol.
Years ago I went to Daytona for Spring Break. We met people from all over and when they heard we were from Philly they either stepped back like we were going to hit them, or stepped forward as if ready to fight.
Except for the group from Boston. But they were pretty well baked the whole time.
"I repeat we have normality." She turned her microphone off — then turned it back on, with a slight smile and continued: "Anything you still can’t cope with is therefore your own problem."
I agree. I like the lawless, crass reputation. It makes for great icebreakers when you’re in another city.
“You’re from Philly? Is it true about the fans, that they’re obnoxious?”
“It’s complete bullshit and you are an idiot.”
by flyersfaninchicago on Oct 13, 2011 4:50 PM EDT up reply actions
An old but constant foe
So, with everyone occupying everything, could we maybe occupy Philadelphia’s MSM?
Yes, it’s a tired narrative, as tired as the “horrible Philly fans” one, but man they’re horrible and create more problems than they bring to light. From the baseless speculation and small sample-size riding to the simple refusal to research and false narratives they like to perpetuate, you can’t help but get frustrated, especially when it’s thrown back at you from idiot fans who say they’re fans but can’t be bothered to actually take a look at things for themselves instead of repeating, verbatim, what they read in the paper, saw on TV or heard on the radio.
I know most of you have come to this same realization, but between yesterday’s Daily News Live, some of today’s news articles and the radio, it gets to be too much some times.
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24 hour news cycle is the culprit. They run out of things to say and don’t want to pay good reporters/writers the salary they deserve so a lot of lesser qualified folks are in charge of the information dissemination. It’s sad.
What kind of plane is it? Oh, it's a big pretty white plane with red stripes, curtains in the windows and wheels and it looks like a big ol' Tylenol.
OK I have a question regarding Higgins’ goal. When Burrows was behind the net Kimmo went around it to his left to challenge Burrows, leaving Higgins to get into position for the eventual score. Pronger was pretty much right behind Kimmo on the left side. Who was at fault there? Because Pronger’s reaction of slamming his stick on the ice was indicative of someone screwing up something there. Higgins being by himself was another good indicator of someone not where they were supposed to be. I’m curious who was at fault there.
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by A Flyers Phamily on Oct 13, 2011 9:10 AM EDT reply actions
He can be back there but each D man needs to cover a pole/player. Personally I think Kimmo was trying to cover up for Pronger being less than 100% and going to the side Burrows was on allowing Pronger a few extra seconds to cover Bryz’s left side and they got crossed up and easy goal.
Run on sentences be damned.
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I got the feeling he was trying to help Pronger out also, but if Pronger is on the ice Kimmo needs to let him pull his weight. It was a nice gesture and all, but stick to your assignments.
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by A Flyers Phamily on Oct 13, 2011 10:16 AM EDT up reply actions
The breakdown started with Nodls inability to get the puck out of the zone on a clean break out. Nothing pisses a defensman off more than making a good breakout pass only to have the foward not able to at least bounce the puck out of the zone. There were other breakdowns in the play but I think that was his main frustration, giving up a goal when the puck shouldn’t have even been in the zone.
by kckrebs on Oct 13, 2011 10:48 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Ultimately that was the whole play but when it broke down both he and Timmo are trying to get to the same places on the ice and he knew they blew the coverage.
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Totally agree. Timo and Prongs aren’t really used to palying together, and it showed a few times when they were out together. Having said that I think they are pretty simple errors that can be corrected as the year wears on.
by kckrebs on Oct 13, 2011 12:41 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Break them up and even out the TOI between the three pairs.
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I would actually like to see them together a lot as they go on. It would be great to see Carle and Coburn develop into a Duo if we can keep them both.
My son was born in Ottawa (Go Senators!) to a Father (Go Flyers!) and a Mother (Go Canucks!) who's families root for two different hockey teams (Go Habs!)(Go Bruins!) Little Maxwell is going to have such a confusing life.
Ahh it was insane last night! We went from having all the PP’s and a 10-3 shot advantage to them having what seemed like back-2-back-2-back (for a long time) PP’s and it was exhausting to watch at the end. I thought it was funny when one of the linesman was yelling at one of the fans sitting in 121 after a call. The guy was pretty upset. I’m just glad they were able to scratch it out after the Nucks came back to tie it.
Thanks a lot Select-A-Seat! Now I'm in 122!
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by Flyers_Section_121 on Oct 13, 2011 9:51 AM EDT reply actions
Haha I missed the linesman yelling at the fan. Was it number 80 Thor Nelson? That’s my boy haha and it wouldn’t surprise me if it was him. A couple years ago a guy from the oilers drilled him with a dump in and then yelled at him to get the f*#k outta the way. His repsonse is youtube gold haha search “thor angry.”
He’s a hell of a linesman though don’t get me wrong, 15 years in the show and 2 olympics. Its too bad all the officiating is ran out of Canada though so he’s been getting screwed out of playoff games for years and years. I do have a game puck from game 6 two years ago in the historic comeback against boston though :)
by kckrebs on Oct 13, 2011 12:52 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
I have this awesome image of you watching hockey games wearing a #80 Thor Nelson linesman’s jersey, yelling at the TV like, “YEA THAT’S RIGHT BITCH DON’T TRY AND GO OFFSIDES ON THOR, WOOOO!”
Oh for sure, that’s me! I watch every one of his games I possibly can. Although I don’t wear one of his jerseys during the game, I do have one hanging on the wall next to the tv. I also don’t think I’ve ever cheered for an offsides call, but I do love to see him break up fights. Especially if the guys are going crazy like when George Parros jumped Ben Eager haha.
by kckrebs on Oct 15, 2011 10:39 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
So if Couturier continues to play well, what does everyone think the team does? Do they keep him around all season? If so, how does Schenn get into the line up?
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Schenn is Shelley’s replacement – FO just wanted to light a fire under him to get him to realize that he didn’t inherit a chance to be a Flyer, he had to earn it. Plus, Schenn’s injury kind of slowed him down. The Flyers will have to send Shelley down to afford Schenn anyway. So let’s see if FO makes a move after Shelley’s suspension is over.
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I thought Schenn got sent down so he missed out on like 1.5 million in bonuses?
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Its simple, everyone that boo’d cancer last night were the same people that wore the fake winter classic jerseys.
I don’t get it.
Flyers Fans: We've survived Lock-outs, Lindros and Cooperalls. If you want to get rid of us, you'll have to split an atom or two.
by KreiderDesigns on Oct 13, 2011 10:15 AM EDT up reply actions
You remember this hideous contraption?

Well, there were about 1,000 assholes in this jersey at the game last night
Did you go? Did you like the magnet?
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Aww man, I miss schedule magnets. Wonder if my uncle is going to use his…
Flyers Fans: We've survived Lock-outs, Lindros and Cooperalls. If you want to get rid of us, you'll have to split an atom or two.
by KreiderDesigns on Oct 13, 2011 11:01 AM EDT up reply actions
Awww…no way!
Flyers Fans: We've survived Lock-outs, Lindros and Cooperalls. If you want to get rid of us, you'll have to split an atom or two.
by KreiderDesigns on Oct 13, 2011 12:44 PM EDT up reply actions
Yeah, I have a bunch. Next time we hang out, remind me to give you one. I couldn’t go to the game, but my dad took my ticket and grabbed like 8 of them haha.
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magnets you say…
I eat sentimentality for breakfast, but stats stop me dead in my tracks
by CoburnsCuddleBuddy on Oct 13, 2011 1:50 PM EDT up reply actions
....
i used to have this magnet on my fridge.
by flyersfaninchicago on Oct 13, 2011 4:53 PM EDT up reply actions
Dear God, I hope that is not our jersey….
WAIT WAIT WAIT.
It cant be, can it? Wouldn’t they incorporate the Winter Classic Flyers symbol?
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Giving up isn't an option
by Cillo stache on Oct 13, 2011 10:25 AM EDT up reply actions
It’s not. It’s a fake. Based on a concept someone photoshopped because they liked the old Quakers jerseys. There is a “winter classic” patch on the fake jersey, but it was also stolen from the same concept. It’s not the right patch. But a lot of people thought it was the real deal and bought them.
Read more: http://www.icethetics.info/blog/2011/8/3/the-summer-of-the-phony-leak.html
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Plus, Panotch tweeted yesterday that they are not the real deal; something about Dry Island?
I’m just gonna let that simmer for a while.
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by PraiseMartyMoose on Oct 13, 2011 10:38 AM EDT up reply actions
I know its a fake, but Panotech got me worried yesterday that it was
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by Cillo stache on Oct 13, 2011 10:40 AM EDT up reply actions
I know the hideousness of which you speak. I didn’t get your comment. Did you just mean that the people who booed are idiots and thus bought this jersey because they are idiots?
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by KreiderDesigns on Oct 13, 2011 11:01 AM EDT up reply actions
Which is worse: the fake WC jersey or the short-lived orange jersey with the “3-D” logo? I’m torn.
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I’ll conduct an experiment. One eye will look at images of the fake WC jersey. The other will look at images of the 3-D logo jersey. A third eye will watch Katy Perry gifs. (why not?) And a fourth eye will look at a blank screen, to be the control group. First one with cancer loses.
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by hintzy64 on Oct 13, 2011 1:15 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
I like them.
Aside from the horrid lettering and numbers on the back, I like them.
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by Geoff Detweiler on Oct 13, 2011 1:01 PM EDT up reply actions
Agreed, I want them to be the actual jersey, just with any added Flyers logo to the tops of the shoulders.
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I’m not a fan. It evokes county jail for me.
I'm in love with the Lightning, the Flyers are my fling and I have a crush on the Flyers fans. LA Kings by default.
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RIP Karel, Jan & Josef.
You have quite the checkered past.
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Oh dear god… hahahaha… NOW I realized what I just said. I apologize, I’m tired
I'm in love with the Lightning, the Flyers are my fling and I have a crush on the Flyers fans. LA Kings by default.
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RIP Karel, Jan & Josef.
And Don has quite the checkered shirt.
My son was born in Ottawa (Go Senators!) to a Father (Go Flyers!) and a Mother (Go Canucks!) who's families root for two different hockey teams (Go Habs!)(Go Bruins!) Little Maxwell is going to have such a confusing life.
Well, there were about 1,000 assholes in this jersey at the game last night
I can’t wait until the real ones are revealed.
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talkin about the jerseys
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Jerseys?!?!?!

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*shudders
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by JerseyDriver on Oct 13, 2011 11:29 PM EDT up reply actions
A guy the Flyers need to make an offer for: Cody Franson. The guy’s a giant with decent mobility and excellent offensive skills. Toronto’s just parked the guy up in the press box, because their blueline is stacked. Plus his cap hit is under $1M. Don’t know what the Leafs would want for him, but the Flyers could benefit from getting him.
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Um, 51 contracts? Flyers would have to do 2 for 1. Then Leafs have 2 guys in the press box?
Astaire and Rogers, G and Jagr
Hunter Pence did not guarantee a WS, but, then, neither did Carlos Beltran.
I grew up in the Philly area, and lived there until my mid-20s. Only when I moved away, did the full brunt of anti-Philly negativism hit me. At first, I would try to explain the reality of Philly, as well as its sports fans, but it became apparent that it’s a losing battle. People believe what they want to believe, and now that I’m middle aged, I really could care less. I haven’t lived in Philly for nearly 20 years, but I always enjoy going back. Philly and the surrounding area has character, and a unique feel that is missing from so many generic cities in the US.
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by LVHokejs on Oct 13, 2011 10:33 AM EDT reply actions 1 recs
Agreed completely. IIRC, you and I are both in Caps territory. I get a lot of crap for being a Philly fan. Don’t care anymore. I love the Flyers and Philadelphia (especially for the food).
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speaking of, I’m hungry.
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by Cillo stache on Oct 13, 2011 10:45 AM EDT up reply actions
Me too. I’ve already started snacking on my lunch. So when lunchtime actually comes, I have no idea what I’ll eat. But now all I can think about is cheesesteaks. Dammit.
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UMMMM Cheasesteaks!
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we need to do a cheesesteak tour
I eat sentimentality for breakfast, but stats stop me dead in my tracks
by CoburnsCuddleBuddy on Oct 13, 2011 11:08 AM EDT up reply actions
Slightly OT, at my tailgate for MD football, we’ve decided that the theme of each tailgate will be based on that week’s opponent. (e.g. Cuban food for Miami) So we went Philadelphia themed for the game against Temple and I made soft pretzels and cheesesteaks. Nobody complained about me being a Philly fan that day. :-p
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What cuisine will ND game bring?
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It won’t. That game wasn’t included in the season tickets, and none of us wanted to fork over the extra dough for it. And given how poorly MD is playing so far, it’s looking like a good call. :-p
But maybe we’ll get together to watch it at someone’s house. I could go for Irish food…
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Are you an Alum?
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I am.
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I have a lot of friends that went there. Strong Alumni support.
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Indeed. The new football coach isn’t working out that well so far, and by all accounts the men’s basketball team will be terrible this year until the new coach starts bringing in recruits next year, but we watch (and complain about it) anyway. At least the women’s basketball team should still be good, I love going to those games.
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I did not know until recently that Edsall was from the Coal Regions.
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And if it was so horrible, why would a lot of ex-athletes remain here. Not to mention it seems like people who grow up in the Delaware Valley stay in the Delaware Valley.
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I can't believe this is news
If they did this announcement in Pittsburgh with Scott Hartnell speaking, there would be boos.
Vancouver riots after losing Game 7 of the finals. A Cowboys fan in NY brings a taser into the meadowlands and uses it during a Jets game. A person almost got beat to death outside Dodger Stadium. People got shot outside Candlestick after a pre-season game. A Cubs fans is still in exile. But Philadelphia fans boo a PSA and it gets more news.
If you follow English soccer, there is a club named Millwall. They have the well deserved rep of being the worst hooligans in England. They sing a song titled “No one likes us and we don’t care!” I’m not comparing Philadelphia fans to them but the song is the attitude you should adopt when dealing with people bashing Philadelphia. If you travel around country, you hear the same BS about Philadelphia fans. Ignore them.
by 726 Forever on Oct 13, 2011 10:59 AM EDT up reply actions
And don’t forget about what those White Sox fans did to disco! http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Disco_Demolition_Night
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Nice Story
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So, Couturier is moving in with the Brieres. Guess he’s staying here for awhile.
The velociraptor was offended when you used the word "fossil" as a derogatory term to describe that older player. "A 'fossil'?! MY MOTHER IS A FOSSIL." You jerk.
are the Brieres the Flyers foster family?
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by Cillo stache on Oct 13, 2011 12:07 PM EDT up reply actions
The CouturBriere Family
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by Chemistry66 on Oct 13, 2011 3:42 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
"Simba needs to sharpen his claws" - Ilya Bryzgalov, on Scott Hartnell
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by Chemistry66 on Oct 13, 2011 12:10 PM EDT up reply actions
So the mom is out the door after the divorce. That is weird in itself.
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Did G get his own place? (Possibly with f2yers8, judging by the COTN)
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Wonder where Read will end up…
Maybe him and Schenn can get a place if they call Schenn back up.
My son was born in Ottawa (Go Senators!) to a Father (Go Flyers!) and a Mother (Go Canucks!) who's families root for two different hockey teams (Go Habs!)(Go Bruins!) Little Maxwell is going to have such a confusing life.
We need a photo
Of Briere standing in front of an open door welcoming all the young, ripe NHL talent into his house.
It’s very creepy. Imagine it with his whispy playoff beard too. Oh God Briere went from manchild to creepy person.
It's in his wheelhouse!!
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good for him, certainly wasn’t the same without him
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by Cillo stache on Oct 13, 2011 12:20 PM EDT up reply actions
The only Western Conference teams that travel less miles than Detroit this year are Chicago and LAK. Detroit is right on the league-wide average, and therefore need to quit their bitching.
Keeping alive the old Vaudeville joke, "I'd rather be dead than play Philadelphia."
After reading ‘Nucks Misconduct’s recap ( http://www.nucksmisconduct.com/2011/10/12/2487243/canucks ) on last night’s game, Im so happy BSH doesn’t suck. That whole write-up was terribly unprofessional, and just…ugh. I dont normally care about things like that, but goddamn.
Also, what’re y’alls thoughts about Hartnell? I know its only three games in, and that’s really not a sign for alarm, but after those three games and the preseason, Im a little concerned. I think its safe to say Simmonds has (possibly) taken up his job, and excelled by (possibly) being Knuble 2.0 at the same time. I’ve seen some talk about trading him, (obvs somewhere he’d wanna go due to his NTC), but do you really think that’s the best case? Is the magnifying glass really on Hartnell for the next month or so, to see if he really has a place on this new team?
I view this blog atleast 38763163 times a day, read every post, and regularly follow the comments, especially during games. I think I need to start posting more often…
As long as you willing to stoop the lowest of levels you should fit right in.
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Lets go can-cer! (clap clap clapclapclap)?
by zachtbhood on Oct 13, 2011 12:41 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Too soon rookie!
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But like Irish brothers drinking in a Southie bar we got your back if someone else starts with you.
Now go forth son and make fun of Crosby’s jelly like brain, boo rivals, and be negative about everything.
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Eric kinda ripped it apart it the comments. Go look, it’s fun.
Keeping alive the old Vaudeville joke, "I'd rather be dead than play Philadelphia."
Whew that recap was brutal. So happy folks around these here parts like stats and placing blame/praise where it’s due and not just being straight-up homers resorting to petty insults and pithy bullshit.
What kind of plane is it? Oh, it's a big pretty white plane with red stripes, curtains in the windows and wheels and it looks like a big ol' Tylenol.
Yeah…I mean, I expect gamethreads to look like that at times. But I was surprised to see it in a recap.
OTOH, the recap kind of read like a one-man game thread, so maybe that explains it.
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a little like the thread that keeps unraveling in one’s jacket.
still, who am i to bitch when someone puts that much time into talking about hockey for our benefits. I AM A PHILADELPHIA SPORTS FAN, that’s who. A heartless bastard. I hope the next PSA is about Ovechkin’s legless, scurvied nieces and nephews back in Omsk.
by flyersfaninchicago on Oct 13, 2011 5:05 PM EDT up reply actions
I was just looking at ice time so far & at first was surprised to see that Couturier & Talbot had more time then Simmonds & Jagr but didn’t take into account that they’ve had to kill a lot of penalties
Yeah. Last night’s game was great. Had two hot blonde canucks fans sitting in front of me and my buddy. He convinced them to flash their tits in exchange for “being a good fan” all game.
I also booed Crosby. Fuck him.
But yeah. What was with all the Nucks fans? I don’t mind, really, just odd seeing so many tonight.
by BannedStreetBully on Oct 13, 2011 1:32 PM EDT reply actions
So, as I sit here with probably the worst physics group possible, I thank you for being my savior(s)
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Cillo stache, ive never responded to one of your posts, but I’ve followed BSH for the last two years. As a proud owner of a Carcillo jersey, I thank you for your unwavering support during last season.
Why thank you, the support for Carbomb continues on
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by Cillo stache on Oct 13, 2011 3:15 PM EDT up reply actions
Crosby.....
With Crosby cleared for contact I can only guess what rule changes will be made for his first regular season game. I am going to guess they will be along these lines:
Automatic 50 game suspension for a legal hit.
If it’s an illegal hit, automatic crucifixion at center ice after the game. If the offending player is from a heated rival team the entire team will be executed by Bettman immediately and the Stanley Cup will be awarded to the Pens and the rest of the season will be cancelled.
Am I close? ;)
My teams are the Flyers, Phillies and the Steelers. Deal with it.
So not much of a change from before his injury
It's in his wheelhouse!!
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The fans weren’t banning the anti-cancer ad. They were booing the players shown in it. How people can’t grasp that concept (or refuse to to make drama out of it) is just awful.
It's in his wheelhouse!!
Carlos Ruiz, My Nickname is Chooch.
If this had been Atlanta, and they showed Ovechkin’s face on the jumbotron for whatever worthy cause, the 10 fans in attendance would’ve been napping through the thing. Which is why there’s no longer a team in Atlanta. If they showed a cancer prevention ad in Philly last night without the players they chose, the fans would’ve been OK. Flyer fans, go figure, are REALLY passionate about hockey.
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An OT, but semi-related story: several years ago I went to “The Longest Yard” remake in a Philadelphia theatre. When Michael Irvin, playing a CHARACTER in the movie not named Michael Irvin of the Dallas Cowboys, he was roundly booed. In a movie!
What kind of plane is it? Oh, it's a big pretty white plane with red stripes, curtains in the windows and wheels and it looks like a big ol' Tylenol.
Well, he is a horrible actor, you know.
G, the second coming of Foppa.
Embrace the Jagr.*
by JerseyDriver on Oct 13, 2011 11:39 PM EDT up reply actions
Touche, but this was before he’d even uttered one line.
What kind of plane is it? Oh, it's a big pretty white plane with red stripes, curtains in the windows and wheels and it looks like a big ol' Tylenol.
All sarcasm, though true.
G, the second coming of Foppa.
Embrace the Jagr.*
by JerseyDriver on Oct 14, 2011 9:31 PM EDT up reply actions
The CHIP article was interesting. Yet another way of looking at the Rangers and chuckling at them.
•The Bruins and Blackhawks have both remained healthy through this period – is it luck, youth, a combination, or is health a real skill?
Funnily enough, LW3H is a Rags fan.
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RIP Karel, Jan & Josef.
Also, already?
http://www.newsday.com/sports/hockey/islanders/dipietro-takes-shot-to-mask-in-practice-1.3241182
What kind of plane is it? Oh, it's a big pretty white plane with red stripes, curtains in the windows and wheels and it looks like a big ol' Tylenol.
Jumbotron Opener Movie Thing
Anyone who was at the game last night, how was the opening video…thing?
I never quite know what to call these, but I love watching them. I wasnt too impressed by many last season, but Im hoping this years first-half one is pretty decent.
Regarding Joe Vitale:
…but as far as I know, this has never actually happened. It’s quite possible it has, but I haven’t seen it. Until Tuesday night.
I’m old enough to have seen this happen in a Flyers road loss back in the 70’s (post-Cup, Billy Collins/ Harvey Bennett/ Dennis Ververgaert/ Blake Dunlop era). Instructions from the bench took too long, linesman dropped the puck on a distracted Flyer whose name I can’t recall. Directly resulted in a goal against. I do remember Bobby Taylor being really pissed about it.
BREN DENNNNNNNNN, handin out su spen sions, BREN DENNNNNN. That’s some funny shit there.
G&JJ= optical enjoyment
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