Friday Morning Fly By: Flyers West Comes East Tomorrow
by Geoff Detweiler on Oct 14, 2011 6:01 AM EDT
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Today's open discussion thread, complete with your daily dose of Philadelphia Flyers news and notes...
- Mike Richards is returning to Philadelphia tomorrow, but he's enjoying L.A. now: [NHL.com] [delcotimes.com] [Inquirer] [Daily News] [Philly Sports Daily]
- Anthony SanFilippo talked with many, many people about Richards' return here: [In The Room]
- The Flyers allowed an even-strength goal against Vancouver, but their scoreless streak was the third-longest stretch to start a season: [BoopStats]
- The Flyers "were able to hold" Vancouver's power play to 2-for-7. Or 28.6% effective. I wouldn't call that "holding" them, but whatever: [Philly Sports Daily]
- I love these stories: Local 38 year old man filled in for Ilya Bryzgalov at the Flyers practice yesterday: [Philly Sports Daily]
- Ben Holmstrom is the new Captain of the Phantoms, the youngest in team history: [PostStar.com]
- The Phantoms are having issues with the stricter contact rules, as both Sestito and Holmstrom are sitting out suspensions: [PostStar.com]
- Arron Asham did a lot of damage to Jay Beagle's face in a fight, then made some hand motions people are all bent out of shape over: [SBNation.com] [Puck Daddy] [Washington Times]
- Asham's post-game press conference. Warning! Auto-play: [TSN]
- Sidney Crosby was cleared for contact yesterday: [Puck Daddy]
- Justin Bourne wonders if players will treat Crosby differently on the ice: [Backhand Shelf]
- Last year's final weekend was a good study in teams "wanting it more", as teams who controlled their own destiny failed to beat those teams with nothing to play for: [Brodeur is a Fraud]
- Negotiations for the next CBA are expected to start after the All-Star Break: [SBNation.com]
- The NHL and Versus have some weird blackout rules, resulting in fans not being able to watch their teams play some games: [SBNation.com]
- This might be the best argument yet on why "intangibles" need to be used in conjunction with advanced statistics: [Backhand Shelf]
- Syvret is back in the Flyers organization! Well, Danny Syvret's younger brother Corey is playing for the Trenton Titans, the Flyers' ECHL affiliate: [Trenton Titans]
- Other complaints about Brendan Shanahan: [Down Goes Brown]
- NHL realignment will be announced sometime in December: [SBNation.com]
- There are some extreme realignment plans out there too: [Puck Daddy]
- One plan mentioned in the PD article is Derek Zona's, which takes heavily from the NFL and MLB alignments. The Flyers are in a conference without the Rangers, Devils, Penguins, or Bruins and yet... I like it. Not a lot, mind you, but I like it. [SBNation.com]
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Not sure if this was ever covered, but does anyone know why Carter and Richards are wearing 7 and 10, rather than 17 and 18, which seem to be available on each team?
I'm kind of a dick.
Does that high-end prospect coast through Junior hockey on the strength of his natural ability? When he faces stiffer competition, will he make choices that improve him as a hockey player or will he wither under the pressure? Is a spike in shooting percentage the result of luck or did the player make the choice to spend the bulk of his off-season improving his wristshot? Is that forward’s drop in production in the playoffs simply a by-product of small sample size or does he make the choice to stay on the perimeter and not get his nose dirty in front of the net?
Statistical analysis can explain that one player was better than another and make a reasonably accurate prediction of future results, but it has its limitations. Statistical analysis, no matter how advanced, can’t analyse choice.
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Great post.
Simon Gagne AND Mike Richards may move between towns, wear new jerseys and call different arenas home but, at the end of the day, they will both always be Philadelphia Flyers.
One day Sean Couturier will win the Conn Smythe. You heard it here first.
by PursuitOfLappyness on Oct 14, 2011 6:40 AM EDT reply actions
It’s sort of like how economics regards humans as rational beings that make rational choices I think (I’ve never studied economics in any detail, so I won’t go any further than that for my analysis haha).
Simon Gagne AND Mike Richards may move between towns, wear new jerseys and call different arenas home but, at the end of the day, they will both always be Philadelphia Flyers.
One day Sean Couturier will win the Conn Smythe. You heard it here first.
by PursuitOfLappyness on Oct 14, 2011 6:42 AM EDT up reply actions
Which, of course, is why there are entire economics books on how people are irrational, such as “Predictably Irrational.”
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by The Dark on Oct 14, 2011 12:37 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Indeed – which is why macroeconomics always makes more ‘sense’ than microeconomics … but they’re both merely predictors and often wholly wrong.
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by MaximumTalbot on Oct 14, 2011 2:39 PM EDT up reply actions
I’m assuming you are talking undergrad? Once I got to grad level, macro drove me up a wall.
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Once I got to grad level, I blessedly managed to avoid economics entirely. But yeah – the truly advanced macro stuff is some funky shit. Like reading sociology with a Freudian aspect, in order to create a market scheme. Say what??
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by MaximumTalbot on Oct 14, 2011 2:59 PM EDT up reply actions
We clearly disagree. Graduate economics is where stuff really happens. Undergrad is very, very meh, which is why most of my students hate it.
Schumpeter, Williamson/Coase, and to a lesser extent Zajac and Bazeman (if we can call them economists) are important contributions. I also think Hayek is important, although I’m less thrilled personally with his work.
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Hunter Pence did not guarantee a WS, but, then, neither did Carlos Beltran.
I agree, undergrad is very meh, but in terms of what makes more “sense” I generally found micro to be far more cut and dry, and easily digestible (assuming you had a grasp on mathematics, which coming from a ChemE background, I was head and shoulders above most of the class), especially when moving to grad level courses. I found marco more interesting in grad school, but that’s a different topic.
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I loved intermediate Micro. I think its made sense so far. Second semester junior undergrad and I’m taking econometrics this semester and it’s easy but it seems really useless to me. Its all whatifs and that’s why I stopped premed because early bio was well it might be this it might be that and I hate stuff like that.
by profoundnotions on Oct 14, 2011 10:07 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
I’m taking a basic undergrab macroeconomics course now (this specific course is required) and it’s so basic and dumbed down it is infurating.
You are right with that principle of economics, though. “Rational people make rational decisions.” If only this principle was actually true in practice.
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Meh.
a) He emphasizes how choice can impact someone’s outcomes. But people tend to make the same choices year after year, so their past is still predictive of their future.
b) One of the first things we do when advocating for use of a certain statistic is test whether it is in fact predictive. To use his shooting percentage example, the reason we say shooting percentage is luck is because there’s an overwhelming amount of regression to the mean — if his suggestion that an upwards spike might just be the result of working on the wristshot over the offseason, then we would see many examples of that new level of performance being sustained. We don’t, so whether it’s because nobody chooses to work on their wristshot or because choosing to work on it won’t have an impact that’s larger than variance, I don’t care — I still think it’s safe to assume that the spike is variance.
c) I agree with his next-to-last paragraph: we can make reasonably accurate predictions of future results from the stats, but can’t say how the player’s decisions led to those results. But neither can any other method.
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by Eric T. on Oct 14, 2011 10:11 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
The most interesting part of the article for me was the effort to link abstract intangibles to actual choices that might tend to lead to recordable results. It would be an interesting project to build and label such a choice map, using game results to apply appropriate labels to players, and then compare the labels arrived at statistically vs. through narration.
The idea that choice means you can’t know what will happen next is a stretch to saying you can’t often reliably predict human behavior. I can choose to run a red light any time I come to one. Most people don’t most of the time and that’s going to be just as true tomorrow. The article ignores the statistician’s best rejoinder – “small sample size.” The article also ignores the fact that statistics are considered useful not just for the predictive power but to assess what has already happened.
It was thoughtful and I applaud the effort to place Kierkegaard above Hegel, but I’m interested in an assertion of other claims – that “intangibles” may not be randomly distributed among players given a sufficient sample size and over a sufficient period of time; a challenge to the idea that because unquantified assessments of players and games can’t be tested and proven, there is a limit to fruitful comparison and rational discussion (and by implication they are less useful); the possibility that certain examples of statistical analysis may be valid but not sound; that a narrative approach captures aspects of the game which can’t be done statistically (that the form of a hockey game is essentially a narrative art).
by flyersfaninchicago on Oct 14, 2011 11:43 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
When I saw FFIC’s post, I knew I needed to read the link.
Sadly, however, I’m not only with Eric on the “meh” aspects of the guts of the piece, I’m meh on the presuppositions that the author states:
Kierkegaard is regarded as the father of existentialism, and this famous quote was in response to the dominant philosophy of his time, Hegelianism, which attempted to explain all of reality through reason.
I’m real nervous about this assertion. Kierkegaard might be viewed by the existentialists as their father, but he’d be asking for a paternity test. And Kierkegaard, by definition, is using reason to critique overuse of reason. For those who are bored with the references, here is my takeaway: you cannot simply “do away” with stats, in fact, some stats are required to have any kind of analysis of performance (plus/minus, anyone?). The question, like Kierkegaard’s of reason, is WHICH stats you want to use. FYI: this is the problem that many production lines figured out in the 80s and 90s as well, that their metrics were ultimately flawed and they needed a new set, or they would be going out of business. In fact, this is always true in any endeavor that ultimately has a defined numerical end, whether sports, politics or for-profit businesses. What are the metrics that measure whether or not the defined end goals (in this case, literally “goals”!) are in process of being achieved?
Astaire and Rogers, G and Jagr
Hunter Pence did not guarantee a WS, but, then, neither did Carlos Beltran.
by Bud in TN on Oct 15, 2011 1:59 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
I havent been a hockey fan for long, but no Pens, Devils, Rangers and Bruins to play against? why would the NHL ever break up rivalries like that? Its the reason the NFL kept the Cowboys in the NFC East, because of there storied rivalry with the Eagles, Giants and Redskins.
THN wrote an article about how moving Wash away from the NE teams set the franchise back until they got Ovi. Apparently they want to give them a big ticket rival in division again.
moving Wash away from the NE teams set the franchise back until they got Ovi
I absolutely believe this. I remember Flyers/Caps being a huge rivalry in the 80s. My dad wouldn’t let me wear my Flyers jersey when we came down to games at the Capital Centre because of how much their drunk-ass fans hated us. Then they broke up the division, the Caps started sucking, and nobody cared about them anymore. I knew zero Caps fans in college (in Maryland, where the Caps fans should be). But then they got Ovechkin, started making the playoffs, and suddenly Caps fans are everywhere. It’s why the BSH “Bandwagon” shirt is so spot-on…
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It was a cool building, too. Saddledome design, made for a very different feel inside than the Spectrum. I remember it seeming totally black inside except for the fans’ clothing and the ice.
by flyersfaninchicago on Oct 14, 2011 11:58 AM EDT up reply actions
I was always amused by the decibel meter in the corner.
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that’s right, i forgot about that!
Bengt Gustafsson was such a good player. They had a very solid and interesting team then.
by flyersfaninchicago on Oct 14, 2011 12:03 PM EDT up reply actions
I’d love to see the article if you have a link. My guess is it’s based on appeals to emotion and nostalgia
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Probably. And I guess as much as I’m attached to our current divisional rivalries, I was also equally attached to the old Patrick Division. So I may be emotional and nostalgic about it now, but I’m sure I’d grow to love (by which I mean hate) new divisional opponents just as much.
Lightning strikes once, Hextall strikes twice!
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Because rivalries change all the time. The Flyers rivals in the 80s were the Islanders, Oilers, and Rangers. In the 90s, it was the Penguins, Sabres, and Devils. In the 00s, it was the Devils then the Penguins.
Zona even commented on his story saying:
If there were some hallowed tradition in the NHL alignment, I would say let it be and work around it. But since the original six, NHL alignment has been about cliques, convenience and not knowing what’s best for the game as a whole.
And the Flyers would still have the Capitals, Sabres, Maple Leafs, and Lightning while adding Chicago, Detroit, L.A., and S.J.. Those are some good teams capable of some big rivalries, making the loss of the Penguins, Rangers, Devils, and Bruins much less painful.
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by Geoff Detweiler on Oct 14, 2011 8:48 AM EDT up reply actions
I agree totally and I’m old school. I have been watching for a long time and still have a bug up my butt for the Rangers first and foremost. But every year, hell every month a new foe emerges. I want back at Boston and Chara right now, and we won the game.
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But every year, hell every month a new foe emerges.
Ask an older Flyers fan how he feels about the Oilers.
Rivalries are created by familiarity. The only reason Flyers fans hate the Rangers is because they play them often. It’s not like the Rangers have been good for the last 50 years and keep denying Philly the Cup. If you shift the Flyers to an East division like in that plan, you would all come to hate Washington, Tampa and Carolina pretty quickly. You’ve still got Buffalo, Toronto and Ottawa (remember when Ottawa was a big rival for Philly?) and Chicago and Detroit are added to the mix.
Play any of them two years in a row in the playoffs and all of your venom will have a new target.
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I’m on board for change in cases where it is only for change sake. Like the shake up over the summer. I found it awesome they cleaned house. I for one have been sick of shit of playing the Islanders 6 times a year for the last ten years. It represents a completely uninteresting match up. It is a void on the schedule.
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Ask an older Flyers fan how he feels about the Oilers.
Grant Fuhr and Marty McSorley can suck my hind end. And I don’t care what a stand-up guy Mark Messier is … he was a pain in the ass back then.
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by MaximumTalbot on Oct 14, 2011 2:48 PM EDT up reply actions
The Flyers rivals in the 80s were the Islanders, Oilers, and Rangers. In the 90s, it was the Penguins, Sabres, and Devils.
Yup, I despise the Rangers, Devils and Penguins just as a function of when I grew up watching the games. I also held a grudge against the Sabres for a while in the 90s because it felt like we played them every damn year in the playoffs and it was always a long, ugly series.
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Oh, and to this very day I haven’t forgiven the Red Wings for sweeping us in the Finals. Assholes.
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Rivalries are based familiar contempt. Look at divisional realignment since expansion. As Geoff says below, the Flyers primary rivals have changed throughout the last few decades. The Blackhawks and Canucks now look at each other as enormous rivals. The Flyers and Oilers used to be enormous rivals. The Maples Leafs were in the Norris and were huge rivals with the Blues about 20 years ago.
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I would still take Asham any day over Shelley, even if he isn’t considered a “heavyweight”. At least the guy can skate a regular shift and some of his knockouts are classic.
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AND… the biggest plus to Asham is he plays the aggressive checker/pest with DISCIPLINE and self control.
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EVIDENTLY
he usually plays the aggressive checker/pest with DISCIPLINE and self control
Fixed.
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by MaximumTalbot on Oct 14, 2011 2:49 PM EDT up reply actions
One of my favorite goals that I’ve ever seen live was about 2 years ago, Asham danced past a few Caps in their end and roofed one. I thought “oh shit, Asham has some moves.” It tied the game or put the Flyers on top in one that they had been losing by 2.
Asham over Shelley or Rinaldo and day.
by The Gang Wins the Cup on Oct 14, 2011 11:15 AM EDT up reply actions
Thanks — Of course that’s what I meant
by The Gang Wins the Cup on Oct 14, 2011 9:59 PM EDT up reply actions
I can let Asham slide on the after fight antics on adrenaline alone, he was challenged, he fought and he won. BUT….how-come the Pens faithful aren’t considered a group of blood thirsty animals? Because although Asham was escorted away before he saw Beagle in distress the Pens faithful saw the blood and the motionless Beagle laying there but hardly cheered the injury of a fallen player?
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I don’t think Asham was challenged. I thought he should have gotten an instigator penalty. Beagle hit Letang, Letang just put his hands up, and Asham came from across the rink to take on Beagle.
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Beagle decided to drop the gloves. In my book thats a challenge. He could have been Carcillo and slithered away trying to “draw” a penalty like a bitch.
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(or Letang, in this case)
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Letang is a bitch not to mention their best defenseman. Which is how the code works, uncaring as to an instigator Asham addressed a high hit on a marque player
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I always imagined that’s the sound the goalposts make in Montreal. Le tang!
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by hintzy64 on Oct 14, 2011 10:59 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Every time I see/hear his name, I say "What do French astronauts drink?
It’s bad, I know, but having a toddler addles the brain. I also sing “Camptown Races” whenever the Phils play the Mets and Lucas Duda comes up to bat.
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I can’t let him slide.
Letang initiated contact with a clean hit on the boards. Letang then cross checked Beagle in the small of his back twice, which should have been called.
Beagle retaliates, and knocks his helmet off, then skates away. Penalty, retaliation.
Asham then chases a guy who has had exactly 6 fights in the AHL in his entire career. And surprisingly destroys him. Then makes a “go to sleep”…..
Sorry. No respect for what he did in any way, shape or form. 25 yeas of playing on the ice, and that’s simply bullshit. Beagle should have never even turned to him, but Asham should definitely have received the instigator.
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Well not getting a penalty is something you have to accept when it comes to the Penguins, right. Hell if Beagle was wearing Orange and Black he would have gotten an extra minutes for delaying game by bleeding.
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Arron Asham
What a beatdown last night! It looked like he punched Beagle’s shield through his face then he popped him in the mouth for good measure. He was pretty solid defensively and would surprise on occasion w/ silk hands. I’d take him over Shelley for sure and probably Nodl. We still have a lot of bite w/ Wayne, Harts and Prongs but Asham is solid role player at a great price. It’s really too bad he’s on the penguins…
He was one of my wife’s favorite players when he was here. When they started fighting she said “oh he shouldn’t try to fight Asham” and then Ash did his two punch polka and that was it. You could tell though that Beagle wasn’t a fighter. He tried to throw a few early but he should’ve turned his head away so Ash couldn’t catch him flush. Plus having the visor on gives Ash only a certain area to punch and he nailed it.
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by Flyers_Section_121 on Oct 14, 2011 7:56 AM EDT up reply actions
No Geoff. No on that realignment that you “like”
No
I eat sentimentality for breakfast, but stats stop me dead in my tracks
by CoburnsCuddleBuddy on Oct 14, 2011 7:58 AM EDT reply actions
I reiterate, please, no
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by CoburnsCuddleBuddy on Oct 14, 2011 8:12 AM EDT up reply actions
That realignment stinks for the flyers but would be a ratings gold mine for the league. Having the flyers play the rangers for the Stanley cup would be huge ratings. There are just not enough big time western conference teams that draw a lot of viewership out west as it is now. Take Detroit away, and there will be even less.
Why does it stink for the Flyers?
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by Geoff Detweiler on Oct 14, 2011 8:49 AM EDT up reply actions
Because Toronto, Washington, Buffalo, Chicago, Detroit, L.A., and San Jose aren’t enough to overcome the Rangers, Devils, Penguins, and Bruins?
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by Geoff Detweiler on Oct 14, 2011 8:54 AM EDT up reply actions
In the long run, that realignment is best for the league as far as growing television interest and new rivalries can be developed. But to say that playing good teams like Chicago, Toronto, and Detroit will automatically replace decades of meaningful games against the Rangers, Devils, and Penguins overnight is a little much. I like that realignment long team, but short term it stinks for the flyers.
The Flyers weren’t in the Rangers’ division for their first 8 years of existence. Did it diminish the team? The Penguins weren’t in the Flyers’ division until 1982. We those two cups in the 70’s diminished because the Pens weren’t in the division?
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Have you seen the fanpost here about the three-team divisions? Think its sorta cool.
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by Ben Rothenberg on Oct 14, 2011 9:39 AM EDT up reply actions
thanks :)
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by edesjardins37 on Oct 14, 2011 11:26 AM EDT up reply actions
in case someone has feint interest but wouldn’t navigate there without a direct click
-tim
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by edesjardins37 on Oct 14, 2011 11:29 AM EDT up reply actions
It’s the most geographically efficient arrangement for the teams west of the Mississippi but Chicago loses their biggest rivalries with St. Louis and Detroit.
It’s hard to argue against a Devils/Rangers/Islanders division. Or an all-Canada east. But then that orphans the Bruins and creates the prospect of a Philly/Pittsburgh/Washington division. You could do Buffalo/Pittsburgh/Columbus but then….and then…and then…
5 of the 10 divisions are easy.
Very cool.
by flyersfaninchicago on Oct 14, 2011 11:53 AM EDT up reply actions
I don’t mind getting rid of the Rags and Pens as rivals. Eff them.
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Just think – you won’t have to play league-favorite and referee-favorite Sidney Crosby and his cheating Penguins anymore. You might get fair games.
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I don’t care about that so much as getting rid of the BS I hear from some of my “friends” on game day. Plus, if we don’t play the Devils, we’ll actually get to see full arenas on the road. Zing!
What kind of plane is it? Oh, it's a big pretty white plane with red stripes, curtains in the windows and wheels and it looks like a big ol' Tylenol.
The Flyers would develop rivalries quickly in that alignment. Washington, Yzerman’s Lightning, the Sabres (who were a huge rival recently), Detroit, Chicago and Toronto.
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Don’t get me wrong, I think this is the best long term realignment for the league. It creates must-see Stanley Cup finals. But rivalries take time to develop. It would take a few seasons. Buffalo was never a rival. The Sabres thought so but I don’t think the Flyers really cared. The one good thing that would come of it is the Washington rivalry would be reborn. That was always a good one before the new realignment.
When did NJ become a rival? When the Flyers played them in the playoffs. When did the Penguins become a rival? When the Penguins started winning.
They only “take time to develop” when the team is crap. The Sabres, Senators, and Maple Leafs were big rivals of the Flyers in the early 2000s, when they kept playing each other in the playoffs.
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by Geoff Detweiler on Oct 14, 2011 5:09 PM EDT up reply actions
It’ll never work in hockey. Football they play once a week, and in Baseball they play series. The travel would be murder.
Travel would “be murder” for the Western Conference if they don’t do it. People have no idea how much they travel already. Just because we’re in the privileged Atlantic doesn’t mean other people aren’t already feeling the pain.
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by Geoff Detweiler on Oct 14, 2011 8:50 AM EDT up reply actions
Yeah, but instead of making it half of the NHL, your making the whole NHL suffer. I mean, If the Flyers had t play Buffalo, then go to San Jose, then to Wash, then to Detroit in an 8 day span. They need to keep it East and West, unless you think they should either:
A) Expand the season for more rest days
B) Make it like baseball where we have series, which would just make more games.
So rather than make the suffering even across the board, sit here and enjoy taking bus trips while the other half of the league flies 1200 miles to their game, then home again? It’s the selfish view of those who have it easy not wanting to help the other half, or the league. If the West is losing money because they are paying 4 times more in traveling, how is that good for the Flyers? The league is losing money.
But why not option c) Do road trips within the Gretzky West – go to Coloardo, LA, SJ, Anaheim, and Phoenix on a five game road swing.
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by Geoff Detweiler on Oct 14, 2011 9:03 AM EDT up reply actions
the difference is that this realignment isn’t going to slow travel from west coast team, but just make more for the east coast team.
But why not option c) Do road trips within the Gretzky West – go to Coloardo, LA, SJ, Anaheim, and Phoenix on a five game road swing.
Thats what they do now, this realignment would just make more west coast trips.
How does it not help west coast teams? You have Columbus, Dallas, St. Louis, Chicago, Detroit, and Nashville all going from the Western Conference to the Central.
There are teams that travel twice as far as other teams. The teams who travel the fewest miles? The Atlantic Division. The teams who travel the most? The Pacific and Northwest.
Of course you hate it, you only know comfort.
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by Geoff Detweiler on Oct 14, 2011 9:15 AM EDT up reply actions
But thats something that’ll never change. Unless you can harness the power of Zeus and shift Vancouver, Winnipeg, Calgery, and Edmonton closer to the central US, then it’ll always be the same. Your just putting an unneeded burden on the east teams because they were lucky to be built closer to each other then west cities.
Thats like saying we should let African Americans have white slaves for 200 years, just to make it fair and balanced. An eye for an eye makes everyone blind.
The more I think about it the more I like the Zona plan because it brings in new potential rivals and helps spread out the cost of travle league wide. The only anger I have about the plan is not having the Rangers so I would move the Flyers into conf #2 just for selfish reasons.
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If the Stars moved to KC and Phoenix moved to Seattle, travel would be much easier for just about everyone. (except the Avs who are pretty much screwed no matter what happens) It would also make for some nice rivalries. Phoenix would travel a little more, but I’d be willing to bet that the bump in revenue would more than justify it. Canuck fans would definitely make the trip to games against them. I can’t see many people leaving beautiful southern California to go watch a hocky game in the desert. The Stars would make out like bandits. Not only would their travel be cut down considerably, they’d also be right in the middle of a cluster of teams. They’d have a cross state rival and Chicago near them which, in theory, should bump up ticket sales.
Why not?
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by Geoff Detweiler on Oct 14, 2011 8:49 AM EDT up reply actions
I don’t understand all the revenue ramifications of league realignment but there’s so much parity with the league I can’t image it making that much of a difference in terms maintaining competitive balance.
I don’t understand all the revenue ramifications either, but the problem is that teams like Detroit and Columbus are paying a shit ton more money traveling than the Islanders are. The Canucks have their division opponents in Minnesota and Colorado, while the Flyers have three less than 300 miles away.
It’s extra costs that only half of the league is bearing.
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by Geoff Detweiler on Oct 14, 2011 9:05 AM EDT up reply actions
Yeah the east coast is packed, esp. the urban cooridor. Makes sense to me, esp. as the competitive balance of the leagues wouldn’t be radically altered. Besides rivalries are good but they can also have negative effects. MLB can’t realign much of anything in a meaningful way because two fricking team rivalries are set in stone, historically and economically. They will never spilit up Boston and NY, ever.
Also I like this willingness of the NHL to experiment, although this has produced some of the most god awful unis in the history of sports. It’s not like the Catholic Church of Baseball. Actually MLB is worse than the Catholic Chruch when it comes to changes. BUT THEN THE ROBOTS WILL WIN!!!! THE ROBOTS!!!!!
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by CoburnsCuddleBuddy on Oct 14, 2011 9:23 AM EDT up reply actions
So I didn’t see anyone talk about this yesterday but I may have missed it, on Wednesday before they did the Flyers intro’s they had that video montage that they do every year where, at the end they unveil this year’s tag line. I found this years, which is “It’s all about the chemistry.” to be a bit on the nose.
But the video itself was pretty cool.
And Geoff, regarding the Flyers going 2-7 against the Canucks on the PP. I don’t really have an issue with the notion of “holding it” in fact, I would say that’s probably the best phrase you could use. They certainly weren’t awful on the PK, nor did they really excel but given how good the Canucks PP is, and given that 2 of the 4 forwards the Flyers have on the PK are rookies, I would say they did an admirable job. Especially at the end of the game killing off back to back penalties.
Ed Snider is a crotchety old fuck.
That is all.
Is it just me or does “it’s all about the chemistry” seem like the Flyers are fuelling the whole “there was a locker room rift last season” thing…probably just me and paranoia, but I can see the Flyers being happy to justify the trades in the fans eyes with that
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by PursuitOfLappyness on Oct 14, 2011 8:23 AM EDT up reply actions
From Richards in the SF link:
There’s not little (cliques) or anything – there’s just one big group.referring to LA.
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implying that there was a locker room divide
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by CoburnsCuddleBuddy on Oct 14, 2011 8:24 AM EDT up reply actions
Implying that there may have been more than 1 IMO. Always had the impression that was the case, but never cared because, when healthy, the team performed pretty well last year.
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This. I think it was pretty obvious that the locker room had issues. And honestly, I just wish the Flyers would let it go. Hopefully, that video will be the end of it. It’s over, they are gone. I am sure they weren’t the only reason there was a divided locker room but them being leaders didn’t help. Now, I just want to move on and enjoy watching this youngish and fun team.
Also, can we please trade Hartnell?
Also, when is Schenn going to make it to the big club?
Ed Snider is a crotchety old fuck.
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When we trade Hartnell? Haha.
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Hahaha good call.
Well I have heard some people say that Schenn is called up when Shelley is back but I don’t see how one has to do with the other.
Hartnell’s role is clearly diminished. I’d rather see Schenn on his line and Hartnell on the 4th line.
Ed Snider is a crotchety old fuck.
That is all.
I have yet to be able to watch a full game so I can’t comment. I have them all stored in the DVR. So I’m not at the point where I’m calling for anyone to be traded.
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At this point, for me, Hartnell is not earning his money, and given when and who he is playing with, I don’t think he really has a chance to. He’s an expensive 3rd line guy.
Ed Snider is a crotchety old fuck.
That is all.
And in defense of Hartnell, he was pretty much the only guy hitting anyone on Wednesday night. Well, him and Batshit.
Ed Snider is a crotchety old fuck.
That is all.
Yeah. The refs were pretty awful in my opinion. Bad penalties on both sides.
Ed Snider is a crotchety old fuck.
That is all.
None of the penalties were bad. The Pronger one late and especially the JVR one were bad, but I just figured it was balancing out the 1st in which we had 10 mins of PP.
None of the penalties were bad.
The Pronger one late and especially the JVR one were bad
This is why I did so poorly in school. I obviously missed something here….
I'm kind of a dick.
Yeah it seems that it was more than one. It also seemed that when Pronger was down the team shit the bed.
Just to add to the polarizing narrative: I never second guessed Richards effort, i remember him diving to stop an empty net goal while down 3 goals.
Do you think the team fails as bad if Richards or Carter isn’t in the lineup?
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by CoburnsCuddleBuddy on Oct 14, 2011 8:29 AM EDT up reply actions
I think the team fails worse last year if those two aren’t in the lineup. Cohesiveness is great and all, and it might carry you for a little, but at some point talent will over take it.
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Like he, Carter and et al, weren’t a party clique?
If Brzy doesn't do right by Bob I'll kick his $51 million ass across the WFC.
Well that seems to be the common perception, what is not common is that the room was possibly divided up further, hence what I find interesting about the quote. Not sure why you are bringing up what most people accept already.
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Sorry Don…I guess I was just disappointed in the leadership thing with Ritchie.
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Not sure why, you have a team with enough voices to be vocal in the room, and a captain on the ice that is hard to find fault in his effort. If you want to place the blame on his shoulders for what was a team failure last year because he wore the C, that’s fine. Personally I put it else where.
Further, we’ve been through that plenty, I just thought the new concept of the possibility of several cliques to be interesting.
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I don’t place the whole team failure on him. I just expected more with regards to an incident that happened back in February. So this was more a knee-jerk reaction.
You’re right that the multiple cliques comment is interesting. I had heard there were two – the partying one and the working one. Hopefully this is all a moot point.
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Some guys just aren’t cut out to be leaders, and I think Richie is one of those guys.
I also think it is hard to be a leader, and even harder to try and establish yourself as a leader when you are on a team with so many former Captains and especially a guy like Pronger.
Ed Snider is a crotchety old fuck.
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I think bringing in Pronger is what ultimately caused that leadership group to fail or be broken up (I prefer the later because I don’t believe they failed). I think with him in the room, you need a leadership group that is either in his peer group or will bow down to him, and I don’t think either wa sin place here. Just my opinion and speculation of course.
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Some guys aren’t cut out to be leaders…
Mike Richards wore the C on every team he ever played for, and won at every level he ever played. In the NHL, he won the Eastern Conference (not a Stanley Cup, for those who would misconstrue “winning at every level” to mean “winning a Championship at every level”) while wearing the C.
How is this guy not a leader?
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by Geoff Detweiler on Oct 14, 2011 8:52 AM EDT up reply actions
I dunno, I think if you look back at his history—Kitchener Rangers captain, captain of the Canadian World Juniors team that also included Crosby, Getzlaf, and DSOD—he’s been chosen for plenty of leadership positions in the past. I guess I’m just frustrated that Richards was lionized in 2008 and 2009, but when the team struggled, it was suddenly his fault.
What3v3r.
I guess I’m just frustrated that Richards was lionized in 2008 and 2009, but when the team struggled, it was suddenly his fault.
Revisionist history pisses me off too.
Good post.
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by Geoff Detweiler on Oct 14, 2011 8:55 AM EDT up reply actions
I think cliques are natural even within teams. Every team I’ve played on has had them and had not let them effect on ice performance. Granted during my most competitive years I was still at an age where I feared the coach and the punishment they could hand down on me (as I think most of the team did), so nothing ever carried on to the ice, and maybe that’s different once you get farther in to your 20’s and are getting paid multiple millions of dollars.
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Most season ticket and plan holders renewed before any moves were made.
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And I think most of them probably would have after the moves.
Ed Snider is a crotchety old fuck.
That is all.
As do I. Now if this team doesn’t do well this season, you might see an effect next year. There wasn’t a chance to really analyze the effect this year with sales because of the timing. Plus, change, whether you agree or disagree always causes interest.
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I don’t know why, but I think this is interesting… that most season ticket/plan holders renewed before the moves. What happens if you completely have a change of heart and you don’t want your tickets anymore because of the moves? Are you stuck with your tickets? I’m not trying to play devils advocate, cause I agree with EREX21 that most people would want to keep their tickets after the changes, I’m just curious.
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Not sure, we didn’t try, but I imagine you can’t return them. Season ticket holders tend to have them for years, and for the most part are there for the long haul. The ones who renew early, or early birds, purchase their tickets knowing the off season is still to come, so the buyer knows things can change and purchases anyway.
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Yeah, I had a feeling that there would be a “no refund” policy. But I was just curious. I’ve never had season tickets or a plan, even though I’ve always wanted to. I guess the team takes the “no liability” road and figures that the holder understands all of the consequences before renewing.
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FLYERROB
I’m almost ashamed to admit, but I follow this guys career as closely as any player of the Flyers. He recently join JFTC, I assume in advance of saturdays game, and this was his first post (in response to a Flyers fans’ fanpost about wishing Richards well in LA, and rooting for the Kings in the west)
You Should be SHOT !
You can still love a player after he leaves your team .. but you don’t adopt that team as your second team .. Where is your allegiance ? Let me ask you something .. your showering the love towards LA because of Richards… if the Kings tomorrow trade Penner and Richards to get a Malkin or a Crosby or an Ovechkin .. would you still claim the Kings as your 2nd team ? no… So ..
You should be SHOT !
GOOD Luck Mike Richards.. I hope you do well in the West.. I know your one of the best PK shorthanded scorers in the entire NHL .. & .. I hope you thrive and make it to 2nd place overall in the NHL …. (since I am a FLYERS fan .. I have to root for my team to hoist the Stanley Cup and be #1) ..
I'm kind of a dick.
I kind of want to go over there and rip the pretentious douche bag.
Ed Snider is a crotchety old fuck.
That is all.
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by Cillo stache on Oct 14, 2011 8:33 AM EDT up reply actions
Wow that guy, I may need to join JFTC just to see him act like an ass, and call him out on it…
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Damn! He’s everywhere!
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Like herpes.
What kind of plane is it? Oh, it's a big pretty white plane with red stripes, curtains in the windows and wheels and it looks like a big ol' Tylenol.
Agree completely. And he was so proud of it, he had to cross-post it on another site.
Reminds me of Paulie Walnuts in the first season of Sopranos, every time he tells a joke, he gets so proud of himself that he turns to someone else, asks if they heard it, and tells it again.
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My perception is that arguing with FLYERROB is like arguing with a pig…it only frustrates you and irritates the hell out of the pig.
If Brzy doesn't do right by Bob I'll kick his $51 million ass across the WFC.
And yes, I'm a female redhead.
FLYERROB fought for your freedom to dislike blue cheese, but not american cheese.
I'm kind of a dick.
I never use that line with people, juist because I served doesn’t give me the right to hold it over someones head. That is what I hated most about him, well no his racist banter was the worse his I fought for your freedom was #2
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Yeah, that always bugged me too. But since I didn’t serve, I’ve never had the guts to say it to anyone. Basically, the ultra-patriotic movement of the last decade or so shamed me into being afraid to appear “disrespectful” to a soldier. Even if he’s a complete asshat and deserves it. So I thank you for making me feel at least a little less like an ungrateful asshole.
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I like blue cheese with wings
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Y’allz are soft. Soft, I tell you!
What kind of plane is it? Oh, it's a big pretty white plane with red stripes, curtains in the windows and wheels and it looks like a big ol' Tylenol.
I like it with red wine.
What kind of plane is it? Oh, it's a big pretty white plane with red stripes, curtains in the windows and wheels and it looks like a big ol' Tylenol.
Actually tried it with chardonnay in Napa last week, the combo was amazing. But it works with any wine pretty well.
Especially a heavy red. Blue cheese, dark chocolate and merlot. Or cab. Yep.
What kind of plane is it? Oh, it's a big pretty white plane with red stripes, curtains in the windows and wheels and it looks like a big ol' Tylenol.
No. Just no. If you need blue cheese (or celery) to cool down your HOT wings, you’re missing the point of HOT wings. I want them to make my eyeballs sweat.
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I don’t think that’s the purpose of it. I love my wings hot, but the blue cheese is just a condiment like any other. It adds a great flavor to it, if you ask me.
I'm kind of a dick.
Actually, yes, I sometimes dip my crust into blue cheese. I also put hot sauce on my pizza sometimes.
I'm kind of a dick.
I use hot sauce sometimes, usually I just stick with crushed red pepper, garlic powder and grated parmesan cheese
Ed Snider is a crotchety old fuck.
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Ah. When I was a kid, I asked my dad why Wings to Go always gave us blue cheese and celery with our wings, which he always threw away. He said “to cool your mouth down.” So I just eat my wings plain. I’ve had blue cheese elsewhere and know I just don’t like it, but I had never considered it as an additional flavor to buffalo sauce.
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Well, it may serve that purpose for some, but it’s simply an enhancer like ketchup or mustard is for other foods. I make an awesome wing dip that is simply finely chopped chicken, cream cheese, blue cheese and hot sauce. The flavors just go together well for some, I guess….
I'm kind of a dick.
I’ve had wing dip that was similar to that. I was surprised that there was blue cheese in it. All I tasted was chicken and hot sauce. It was delicious. But I’ve had blue cheese as dressing on salads or wraps and can’t stand it. Maybe it just depends on context.
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Understandable. As much as I love blue cheese, I prefer simple olive oil and vinegar on my salad to blue cheese.
I'm kind of a dick.
I love Greek salad dressing, and anything with feta cheese.
What kind of plane is it? Oh, it's a big pretty white plane with red stripes, curtains in the windows and wheels and it looks like a big ol' Tylenol.
Yum, there’s an olive bar where I shop, so I get kalamata and large feta stuffed olives, with big chucks of feta. Delicious.
I'm kind of a dick.
Wegmans has a delish olive bar—I get those or the kalamata stuffed with garlic. I love kalamata olives. Could eat an entire container.
What kind of plane is it? Oh, it's a big pretty white plane with red stripes, curtains in the windows and wheels and it looks like a big ol' Tylenol.
HH there is a fantastic Italian specialty shop i West Norriton called Talutto’s. You should stop by for the arrangement of olives.
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Ahh, I shall check it out. I also like to venture into the city from time to time to go to DiBruno Bros. So good.
What kind of plane is it? Oh, it's a big pretty white plane with red stripes, curtains in the windows and wheels and it looks like a big ol' Tylenol.
I didn’t really like olives that much until our Slovenia trip this year. We spent an afternoon in a wine cellar, and they gave us a HUGE plate of cheese, olives and dried fruit to go with our wine. Quite possibly my favorite “lunch” from the whole trip.
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We spent an afternoon in a wine cellar
Sounds like my idea of Heaven.
What kind of plane is it? Oh, it's a big pretty white plane with red stripes, curtains in the windows and wheels and it looks like a big ol' Tylenol.
When my girl and I used to go to wine festivals, we used to take big loaves of bread, olive oil, and huge wedges of cheese and just sit out drinking wine and eating. It was glorious….
I'm kind of a dick.
You’re doing it right.
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Except for flask of Jaeger in his pocket to get the buzz going faster.
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How come every time I ask for EXTRA Feta I get like 2 squares? Is Feta like super expensive? I get greek salads whenever possible but there is never enough Feta!!
What if you don’t like wings and only eat them to go with the blue cheese?
What kind of plane is it? Oh, it's a big pretty white plane with red stripes, curtains in the windows and wheels and it looks like a big ol' Tylenol.
It’s only a “problem” for other people.
What kind of plane is it? Oh, it's a big pretty white plane with red stripes, curtains in the windows and wheels and it looks like a big ol' Tylenol.
That’s what all the addicts tell themselves.
Bob.
by The Dark on Oct 14, 2011 12:50 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
I prefer sausage myself.
If Brzy doesn't do right by Bob I'll kick his $51 million ass across the WFC.
And yes, I'm a female redhead.
Ohh my bad…..back to my rock, again!
If Brzy doesn't do right by Bob I'll kick his $51 million ass across the WFC.
And yes, I'm a female redhead.
Not that there’s anything wrong with it if she doesn’t.
What kind of plane is it? Oh, it's a big pretty white plane with red stripes, curtains in the windows and wheels and it looks like a big ol' Tylenol.
No, he got pretty irritated too.
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Yet he keeps coming back for more. Therefor I think he enjoys doing this and, in time, will do so on every SBN hockey blog. He appears to join them now just prior to to a Flyers game against that particular team. I wonder how long John Fisher at ILWT waited before banning him (if he has).
Perhaps he just follows his military experience from serving in the Middle East. Kick in the door of unsuspecting locals, toss in a flash-bang, go tromping through the place in a loud-mouthed, ham fisted manner,…..idk.
May I just say how glad I am I banned him? Because I am so glad.
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by Ben Rothenberg on Oct 14, 2011 9:24 AM EDT up reply actions
Was that you? Congrats. I’m amazed at the patience some of the other blog-lords have with him, especially considering it’s not even a Flyers site he’s terrorizing….
I'm kind of a dick.
I just found and re-read the email I got from him post-ban. It is glorious stuff.
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by Ben Rothenberg on Oct 14, 2011 9:35 AM EDT up reply actions
Frowned upon, probably. Not saying I couldn’t be tempted, especially now that the statute of limitations is gone. He shared my ban to him on PPP, so I don’t feel super obliged not to share his.
It’s every FLYERROB cliche rolled into one thing. You kind of already know what to expect.
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by Ben Rothenberg on Oct 14, 2011 9:40 AM EDT up reply actions
It’s comedy gold Jerry, cmon!!!
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Maybe I could read it out loud on a podcast some time. Or post it here one sentence at a time over the season.
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by Ben Rothenberg on Oct 14, 2011 9:43 AM EDT up reply actions
Could you make a sort of mad-lib out of it? Post it with blanks all over the place, and we have to guess what words are missing? “Dinks?”
I'm kind of a dick.
You would all fail miserably. Especially if capitalization was part of the scoring.
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by Ben Rothenberg on Oct 14, 2011 9:48 AM EDT up reply actions
Serious question to the masthead
Is it possible to give someone a network wide ban? If so, can he please be banned from the network once and for all?
He also trolled the Nucks Misconduct game thread on Wednesday night. He’s joining more and more blogs still looking for acceptance now that a lot of PPP has turned on him, and it is just getting to the point where he is outright trolling the entire hockey community. Last night he joined Fear The Fin, Anaheim Calling, Jewels From The Crown, and Battle Of California.
I think it is easy to see where this is going.
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If he tries to upload more than 2 fanshots in one hour, he’ll get a network-wide ban. Trust me, I’ve done it by accident and the guys from TGP had to work to reinstate me.
The velociraptor was offended when you used the word "fossil" as a derogatory term to describe that older player. "A 'fossil'?! MY MOTHER IS A FOSSIL." You jerk.
by LeepinLizardz on Oct 14, 2011 12:45 PM EDT up reply actions
It’s some kind of anti-spam thing. I guess people who upload more than 2 fanshots in an hour are usually ad/spam bots. I understand why it was done, but would’ve appreciated a warning. I was doing it because TGP was holding a contest for something I REALLY wanted. It might be 3 fanshots an hour, I don’t remember. It might be in the SB Nation Terms of Service, but goodness knows most people don’t read them forget what they say.
The velociraptor was offended when you used the word "fossil" as a derogatory term to describe that older player. "A 'fossil'?! MY MOTHER IS A FOSSIL." You jerk.
by LeepinLizardz on Oct 14, 2011 1:54 PM EDT up reply actions
He’s trying to singlehandedly stage a DOS attack by trolling every SBNation hockey blog simultaneously and generating such a backlash of outraged comments that the network crashes?
Lightning strikes once, Hextall strikes twice!
"I think there is virtue in pissing off idiots." - Fehr and Balanced
It’s possible. He was in the military, you know.
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Hmm, as far as conspiracy theories go, I think he’s actually a Devils fan (or is that the Devils fan) that trolls other sites impersonating a Flyers fan in order to perpetuate the perception that Orange and Black = knuckle-dragger. If so, he’s pretty damn effective.
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by MaximumTalbot on Oct 14, 2011 2:55 PM EDT up reply actions
Yes it’s easy to see where this is going.
But so what? He was banned from here. Let the other blogs and its commentators worry about him.
Ed Snider is a crotchety old fuck.
That is all.
If he didn’t make his FLYERS fandom so obvious, I wouldn’t mind it so much. But he’s validating everyone’s established opinions about Flyers fans. Which I shouldn’t care about, but I do. It’s annoying.
The velociraptor was offended when you used the word "fossil" as a derogatory term to describe that older player. "A 'fossil'?! MY MOTHER IS A FOSSIL." You jerk.
by LeepinLizardz on Oct 14, 2011 1:55 PM EDT up reply actions
If anyone is willing to form an opinion based on the rantings of one crazy loon then chances are they aren’t smart enough to realize how dumb it is to begin with.
Ed Snider is a crotchety old fuck.
That is all.
FLYERROB
The two most interesting things about the FLYERROB SBN reality show..
1. That there aren’t more like him.
2. That so many of us are interested. His comments add no value, they aren’t amusing, making sense of what he says is the intellectual equivalent of rearranging a bunch of bones that turn out all to be broken anyway. Is it the rubbernecking phenomenon? I tend not to do that on the highway but when I see his name I’m curious. It is the Candid Camera/practical joke thing – the unwitting politeness and earnestness of his conversation partners turning into exasperation and loathing?
by flyersfaninchicago on Oct 14, 2011 1:58 PM EDT up reply actions
Yes. It’s fascinating to me because he was here first, and we all got to see him for what he was. Now, I get to watch in amazement as he infiltrates other unsuspecting sites, and wreaks havoc. It’s entertaining to me. I wish no real harm to the guy, as this is just the internet, but he refuses to see things for what they are and continues to insult and evade and never understand what he’s doing wrong, so I don’t feel bad about pointing all of this stuff out.
I'm kind of a dick.
BOB
My favorite poster!!! And I imagine y’all understand why we didn’t just get along …
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by MaximumTalbot on Oct 14, 2011 2:53 PM EDT up reply actions
Brutal
BSH refuses to open up properly for me Google Chrome. What gives? I can’t figure it out. Thanks.
Been having the exact same problem. Super frustrating.
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by Mitchell Green on Oct 14, 2011 12:55 PM EDT up reply actions
I’m using Chrome and I have no problem right now. Of course, now that I’ve just said that…..
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Where is the rejoicing over Corey Syvret that I so looked forward to?
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That’s awesome. I’ll go see him in Reading probably. Those games are super fun!
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by KreiderDesigns on Oct 14, 2011 9:21 AM EDT up reply actions
Are they? I’m not far from Reading, but I’ve never gotten out to a game. Worth it?
I'm kind of a dick.
Yeah, it’s usually cheap. The hockey is not that great of quality but you’ll probably get to see a lot of goals and a handful of fights. The Royals do a good job with the in-arena stuff too. It’s a nice little stadium to provide a cheap hockey fix.
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by KreiderDesigns on Oct 14, 2011 9:25 AM EDT up reply actions
And I can tell you the best bars to go to and most likely the friendliest and heavy-handed bartenders.
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Do you need to pack heat? I did a job in Reading a couple years back, on Green St. I believe, and the contractor we were working for told us not to show up while it was still dark. I think a cop had been shot the week before on that block or something….
I'm kind of a dick.
Reading apparently beat Flint, Michigan in the 2010 Census for city with the largest percentage of residents living in poverty, per the NYT.
What3v3r.
Not really. Just drive to the stadium, park in the garage and walk to the building. It’s not one of the horrible parts of town where Soveirgn Center is.
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by KreiderDesigns on Oct 14, 2011 10:04 AM EDT up reply actions
Just drive to the stadium, park in the garage and walk to the building.
It’s just all so simple with you, isn’t it?
/Dr. Steve’d
I'm kind of a dick.
by Vansteel on Oct 14, 2011 10:07 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
ZING!
What kind of plane is it? Oh, it's a big pretty white plane with red stripes, curtains in the windows and wheels and it looks like a big ol' Tylenol.
Ha, I just read that thread today. What amazed me was that Justin always came off as such a nice guy to me, almost to a fault. I remember last year I was a complete asshole to him (for no good reason other than being drunk), and he just let it roll off of him, which I appreciated. Now, he’s taking no shit.
I'm kind of a dick.
He does post there every so often, most of the time he gets ignored.
Ed Snider is a crotchety old fuck.
That is all.
Can you imagine what the bloglords would do to him there if he went off on one of his tangents?
What kind of plane is it? Oh, it's a big pretty white plane with red stripes, curtains in the windows and wheels and it looks like a big ol' Tylenol.
I would be interested in seeing of the posters who played and who didn’t. It seems hockey is such a niche sport and not mainstream how did people come to enjoy it. I would also be interesting to see how playing or not influences opinions of issues we debate daily.
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We played for the same team, and we are pretty darn different in our views.
being obnoxious and self righteous while ignoring the point since 9/29/11
M and I both played for the Haverford Hawks when we were younger. Not the same time, but same team.
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Well you definitely played harder during the course of the whole game then myself. :-)
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Does dragging my net out to the middle of the cul-de-sac, strapping on the pads, and letting family, friends and neighbors take shots at me count? That’s about the extent of my playing experience.
Lightning strikes once, Hextall strikes twice!
"I think there is virtue in pissing off idiots." - Fehr and Balanced
Well it is your entree into the sport. Have you ever laced up the skates?
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I never played other than street roller. Growing up in Florida away from where the teams are and messing up my knees in baseball saw to that.
Bob.
by The Dark on Oct 14, 2011 12:54 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
In a way, I think you might be right. Though I don’t think I would ever go as far as to call someone a “fucking moron.” a la FuquaManuel to packimop the other day.
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Haha. I don’t think most people would go as far as FM does sometimes.
The velociraptor was offended when you used the word "fossil" as a derogatory term to describe that older player. "A 'fossil'?! MY MOTHER IS A FOSSIL." You jerk.
by LeepinLizardz on Oct 14, 2011 12:47 PM EDT up reply actions
Gotta admit: he keeps the crazies away.
What kind of plane is it? Oh, it's a big pretty white plane with red stripes, curtains in the windows and wheels and it looks like a big ol' Tylenol.
Ooh, new internet term: scarecrow.
Lightning strikes once, Hextall strikes twice!
"I think there is virtue in pissing off idiots." - Fehr and Balanced
Who’s our scarecrow around here? Geoff’s a “lightning-rod for internet crazy”, so it isn’t him. He’s practically an anti-scarecrow.
Lightning strikes once, Hextall strikes twice!
"I think there is virtue in pissing off idiots." - Fehr and Balanced
Hmmm. We don’t have a heavy, per se. Don, maybe. Eric gets ’em with stats.
What kind of plane is it? Oh, it's a big pretty white plane with red stripes, curtains in the windows and wheels and it looks like a big ol' Tylenol.
I didn’t see this conversation at all, is this good or bad? hahaha
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Gotta admit: he keeps the crazies away.
…about somebody on TGP whom I’m not familiar with, but the concept of keeping the crazies away led me to:
Ooh, new internet term: scarecrow.And you’re the candidate so far.
Lightning strikes once, Hextall strikes twice!
"I think there is virtue in pissing off idiots." - Fehr and Balanced
Yes he does, and I appreciate that. Immensely.
The velociraptor was offended when you used the word "fossil" as a derogatory term to describe that older player. "A 'fossil'?! MY MOTHER IS A FOSSIL." You jerk.
by LeepinLizardz on Oct 14, 2011 1:56 PM EDT up reply actions
You said it just a few days ago.
Lightning strikes once, Hextall strikes twice!
"I think there is virtue in pissing off idiots." - Fehr and Balanced
In context maybe. But still, it’s an odd characterization of me. One is from a viewpoint of a criticism, and the other is from the viewpoint of… driving a car.
It's in his wheelhouse!!
Carlos Ruiz, My Nickname is Chooch.
But you did say it. Repeating it in an unexpected context is what makes the joke.
Lightning strikes once, Hextall strikes twice!
"I think there is virtue in pissing off idiots." - Fehr and Balanced
You don’t want to be going too far from the Sov Center and stay in Reading proper. I can send you to a few places outside of the city or some places closer to Albright College where its slightly safer.
"Call me dumb, call me stupid, whatever. I block shots."
His Name is Mudd http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lo-WjUjzV_Q
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We need a CS nickname.
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by Geoff Detweiler on Oct 14, 2011 9:22 AM EDT up reply actions
I’ll have to get some intel on him from those in the know. But my first thought is that he looks so little like Ronald McDonald, whereas his brother does completely.
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by Ben Rothenberg on Oct 14, 2011 9:27 AM EDT up reply actions
DSYB
Danny Syvret’s Younger Brother
Until he does something worthwhile and then maybe he can get a real nickname.
Ed Snider is a crotchety old fuck.
That is all.
ODYB?
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by Ben Rothenberg on Oct 14, 2011 9:38 AM EDT up reply actions
DSYB
I throw my support behind that one.
It's in his wheelhouse!!
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CSOD
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Yawn. Come on now.
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by Ben Rothenberg on Oct 14, 2011 9:34 AM EDT up reply actions
CSODLB
Lightning strikes once, Hextall strikes twice!
"I think there is virtue in pissing off idiots." - Fehr and Balanced
That means he’s his own Little Brother?
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by KreiderDesigns on Oct 14, 2011 10:16 AM EDT up reply actions
Two tickets to Earth Wind and Fire for Jefferson and little brother, great!
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TNOD
The Next Offensive Dynamo
Bob.
by The Dark on Oct 14, 2011 12:56 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
I like that one. Sounds like a rapper from Brooklyn Heights.
“Yo! T-Nod! S’up?”
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by MaximumTalbot on Oct 14, 2011 2:57 PM EDT up reply actions
Geoff: was the aim of realignment to make the costs the same across the board, not necessarily having shorter trips for some, longer for others?
I eat sentimentality for breakfast, but stats stop me dead in my tracks
by CoburnsCuddleBuddy on Oct 14, 2011 9:41 AM EDT reply actions
The aim of that plan is to balance costs and travel throughout both conferences and get rid of “weak sister” divisions. Last year, average travel broke out like this:
Eastern Conference 33,968
Western Conference 46,524
ATL 23,939
NE 27,478
SE 33,503
CEN 34,790
NW 40,753
PAC 40,768
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Does the money that teams pay for travel costs come out of total revenue for the NHL? Meaning, would less travel expenses possibly mean more money back to the players at the end of the year from the escrow account?
I'm kind of a dick.
It’s handled in the hockey-related revenues section of the CBA. Off of the top of my head, teams are allowed to knock 15% off of reported revenues for hockey-releated expenses, including travel. My guess is that nearly every team is knocking that 15% off no matter what, but that’s just a guess.
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Have you thought about dividing the league into different sections according to districts, assigning point values to each district, then going from there?
Here’s what I came up with. There are 5 districts of 6 teams
VAN/SJ/LA/ANA/CAL
EDM/COL/PHX/DAL/WPG
MIN/CHI/STL/NSH/DET
CLB/TB/PIT/TOR/TB
BUF/CAR/OTT/WAS/PHI
BOS/NYI/NYR/NJ/MON
Each district represents 1 point. So VAN to EDM would be 1 point. VAN to MON would be 5 pts. Each team must accumulate between 11-15 pts each year to fall within the safe zone. If you fall under, you then have to compensate for another team going over. You could possibly have a total of 6 pts, but you’d have to pay other teams for having to go over the PTS total for travel.
Each team is allowed to pick their divisional opponents on a year to year basis. This is different from college football because the talent gap isn’t there. DET could conceivably play in the EAST but would have to share their profits with another team because they made them travel. This also allows teams like FLA to schedule far away teams and be compensated for their travel and allowing another team to travel shorter distances
I eat sentimentality for breakfast, but stats stop me dead in my tracks
by CoburnsCuddleBuddy on Oct 14, 2011 10:33 AM EDT up reply actions
clarification, FLA would be the 5th team in that 4th district
I eat sentimentality for breakfast, but stats stop me dead in my tracks
by CoburnsCuddleBuddy on Oct 14, 2011 10:36 AM EDT up reply actions
in short: 6 districts
5 teams per district
districts are purely for scheduling and travel concerns
I eat sentimentality for breakfast, but stats stop me dead in my tracks
by CoburnsCuddleBuddy on Oct 14, 2011 11:03 AM EDT up reply actions
Yes. A quick mock up:
Each team must agree with the other to unite in a division. It would work like this: The Flyers ask Pittsburgh, LA, MON and ANA and say yes, we would like to be in a division, thus accumulating 10 pts
the pts might need to be shifted to a smaller number, because obviously people will run out of dance partners
I eat sentimentality for breakfast, but stats stop me dead in my tracks
by CoburnsCuddleBuddy on Oct 14, 2011 11:10 AM EDT up reply actions
alternatively, you just say screw it, get rid of divisions, make it the top 16 teams, and go from there
I eat sentimentality for breakfast, but stats stop me dead in my tracks
by CoburnsCuddleBuddy on Oct 14, 2011 11:33 AM EDT up reply actions
in this scenario the other 4 teams you choose would just be the ones you play primarily the most, and wouldnt be restrictive to division. For instance, LA and PHI could play 3 other extremely different teams. they just need to meet the point total
I eat sentimentality for breakfast, but stats stop me dead in my tracks
by CoburnsCuddleBuddy on Oct 14, 2011 11:35 AM EDT up reply actions
does the Asham fight show why there needs to be fighters in the NHL? maybe not goons, but a fighter like Asham who can still play….I wouldn’t want that happening to G’s adorable little face in a fight would you?
OT, but i wonder what its like to have a conversation with Victorino. I would assume its like talking to a 10 year old after his halloween round-up.
I wonder if he plays words with friends.
In interviews it’s always like one long, run-on sentence. I imagine you’d need a few aspirin or a drink after said conversation.
What kind of plane is it? Oh, it's a big pretty white plane with red stripes, curtains in the windows and wheels and it looks like a big ol' Tylenol.
seriously. His tweets are golden
LOL…Morgan great at bat for a single…u think he told ALBERTA (no disrespect Pujols) that he don’t wanna step to TPLUSH…LOL Thoughts?
I’m in the process of filming/figuring out a documentary and I want to talk to Victorino about ADHD in baseball, so I was going to message him on Twitter the other day… but he doesn’t follow me.. so that failed. But I think that it would be awesome to have a conversation with him. His Twitter account is pretty epic.
Also, his book starts with him dumping tons of candy onto his bed in Montana when he first reports for rookie league and how hyper he was cause he was eating all of the candy.
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Just talk to me for a little bit, it’s pretty much the same thing,
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The absolute best realignment for the league is to contract two franchises and create four divisions of seven. By getting rid of 2 teams, you increase the talent level per team. There is just not enough top line offensive players in hockey to fill up 30 teams. I also like the divisional playoffs idea to start the offseason. A seven game series against division rivals would make for compelling series.
How about the Coyotes and Panthers?
Lightning strikes once, Hextall strikes twice!
"I think there is virtue in pissing off idiots." - Fehr and Balanced
Excellent.
Lightning strikes once, Hextall strikes twice!
"I think there is virtue in pissing off idiots." - Fehr and Balanced
The divisions: West: San Jose, La. Anahiem, Colorado, Van, Calgary, Edmonton. Central: Winnipeg, Minnesota,Chicago,Detroit, Dallas, St. Louis, Nashville. Northeast: Buffalo,Ottawa, Montreal, Toronto, Boston, NY Rangers, NY Islanders. East: Philly, Pittsburgh, Washington, New Jersey, Carolina, Tampa Bay, Columbus.
So I was a little late to the party this morning and when I saw that there were over 100 comments, I thought that there was a huge argument going on, but nope, just saw tons of posts about blue cheese/salad dressing and trying to figure out the connection between FLYERROB and blue cheese.
I do think that the realignment issue is interesting, and I think that if Western Conference teams are mixed in with Eastern Conference teams, it could work. Personally, I don’t really follow the Western Conference, but if the Flyers are constantly playing them, then I would start tracking the teams. I think that it would help the league and then no team is “getting screwed with travel” such as Detroit and Columbus now.
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Can I just mention that my defensemen are SO BAD that I just decided I’m better off not starting four defensemen and carrying an extra goalie?
And yes, Detweiler, to make this decision…I used stats. Don’t mean nothing.
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Remember back in the day? When we had BSH Radio, Trivia, and Kreider wrote comics? Now we just argue about stats and don’t allow opinions ot be formed wihtout detailed analysis to back it up.
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Yeah. I want my damn podcast, even if it’s about 2 weeks irrelevant by now. Also, whats with the giant influx of selling out suddenly? The one TiqIQ thing wasn’t so bad, but now its the entire page of ads.
by BannedStreetBully on Oct 14, 2011 10:58 AM EDT up reply actions
Get Ad Blocker Plus for firefox and you don’t see any ads at all.
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by KreiderDesigns on Oct 14, 2011 10:58 AM EDT up reply actions
Also available for Chrome!
Lightning strikes once, Hextall strikes twice!
"I think there is virtue in pissing off idiots." - Fehr and Balanced
Except for the usability issue addressed earlier.
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ad blocker doesn’t block posts. =/
I don’t mind Travis making a buck, or breaking even. It’s just a sudden onflux of ads that bugs me.
by BannedStreetBully on Oct 14, 2011 10:59 AM EDT up reply actions
What ads? There was an article about getting tickets here and then an article about a contest where you can win FREE tickets. There is exactly one non Flyers related article on the front page, two including the archive at the bottom.
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by KreiderDesigns on Oct 14, 2011 11:01 AM EDT up reply actions
So those popups for free screensavers aren’t ads?
Hunh.
by BannedStreetBully on Oct 14, 2011 11:03 AM EDT up reply actions
Again. Get Ad Blocker Plus. I haven’t seen an ad on here since 2010
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by KreiderDesigns on Oct 14, 2011 11:04 AM EDT up reply actions
I guess you’re right. I’ll give it a shot.
by BannedStreetBully on Oct 14, 2011 11:07 AM EDT up reply actions
It is awesome. You won’t regret it.
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by KreiderDesigns on Oct 14, 2011 11:08 AM EDT up reply actions
I want to see you draw a comic. How about that?
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by KreiderDesigns on Oct 14, 2011 10:59 AM EDT up reply actions
Also, what do you want this Skinner shirt to say?
Flyers Fans: We've survived Lock-outs, Lindros and Cooperalls. If you want to get rid of us, you'll have to split an atom or two.
by KreiderDesigns on Oct 14, 2011 10:59 AM EDT up reply actions
That about encapsulates it. Can I even get one by the 14th of November??
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Yes. If I design it by the end of October.
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by KreiderDesigns on Oct 14, 2011 11:08 AM EDT up reply actions
Are you going to the Flyers- ’Canes game that night?!
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I want to go, but also need to realize that getting a “real job” should be my 1st priority, so if I have the day off from work, I’m going to a job fair out in Nashville, so no Flyers game for me in November. But if I’m not working late that day, I’m going to do everything in my power to go to the game!!
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I’m so sorry. (I hate Duke.)
Lightning strikes once, Hextall strikes twice!
"I think there is virtue in pissing off idiots." - Fehr and Balanced
I hate Duke too :) I chose UNC as my Triangle team
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Triangle explanation
The “triangle” is Raleigh-Durham-Chapel Hill… cause Raleigh is the eastern point, Durham is the northern point and Chapel Hill is the western point. Durham and Chapel Hill border each other and it’s about a 45 minute drive down I-40 from Chapel Hill to Raleigh. If you look at the schools, NC State is in Raleigh, Duke in Durham and UNC out in Chapel Hill. Then there’s the “Research Triangle Park” (RTP) in between Raleigh and Durham. There are a few towns between Raleigh and Durham though. It’s about a half hour drive from Durham into Raleigh. Around here, everyone has their “triangle” team and it runs their life (all the way down to the color of their shoes)
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Kreider...
If you wanted me to have to draw a comic, you had your chance. Then you got SMOKED in trivia. You still owe me a comic.
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1/4 to 0/4 is hardly a smoking, my friend. Also, since those stakes were set after the match, I’m not legally obligated to do anything. Also, you have no proof. You will get your t-shirt and we shall call that even.
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by KreiderDesigns on Oct 14, 2011 11:12 AM EDT up reply actions
Wait I’m sorry it was technically 1/6 to 0/6 with both of us getting the bonus.
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by KreiderDesigns on Oct 14, 2011 11:13 AM EDT up reply actions
Not true if you count the bonus.
Flyers Fans: We've survived Lock-outs, Lindros and Cooperalls. If you want to get rid of us, you'll have to split an atom or two.
by KreiderDesigns on Oct 14, 2011 11:17 AM EDT up reply actions
I thought it was 1-0. What was the bonus? Wasn’t it Kalpa?
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Yeah. But if you count the bonus you got 2 out of 7 and I got 1 out of 7
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by KreiderDesigns on Oct 14, 2011 11:20 AM EDT up reply actions
Not a smoking. Would you say the Flyers just smoked the Canucks?
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by KreiderDesigns on Oct 14, 2011 11:23 AM EDT up reply actions
This is what I’m saying.
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by KreiderDesigns on Oct 14, 2011 11:50 AM EDT up reply actions
I’m sorry, did you want some cheese with that whine? Loser!
Also, the stakes were set BEFORE the match. Want proof? Listen to the BSH Radio trip to Glen Falls. You guys called me out on it during that podcast, and said whoever lost had to draw a comic. I agreed to it. Don’t try to back out of this.
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What was said in Glens Falls stays in Glenns Falls, doesn’t count.
I’m not trying to get out of it, I’m simply saying you get nothing, you ungrateful bastard.
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by KreiderDesigns on Oct 14, 2011 11:21 AM EDT up reply actions
I need you to either ask me for a favor or give me shit, but not both. It’s confusing. I want to help you and am angry at you. Haha
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by KreiderDesigns on Oct 14, 2011 11:31 AM EDT up reply actions
LOL I don’t really care about the shirt, except to wear it there.
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I’d really like to know how hurt he is. He left Wednesdays game and neither ESPN nor Yahoo have updated his status and I have him in both leagues.
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by KreiderDesigns on Oct 14, 2011 11:39 AM EDT up reply actions
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M5QGkOGZubQ#t=03s
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"I think there is virtue in pissing off idiots." - Fehr and Balanced
Reading over Zona's realignment, and yeah...
It’s terrible.
You’re basically throwing away any meaningful rivalry.
Seriously, In the Jersey/Philly area, how many Panthers fans are we going to run into? Or Lightning fans? None. There’s no day to day trash talk, no bullshitting, no agreements and fantasy talk.
Our closest rival is going to be Washington, which in the east corridor might as well be Maine. Meanwhile, the Devs, Islanders and Rangers are all in one group? Seriously? So there’s the division everyone locally will care about, and the new shitty grouping the Flyers got put in out of charity to fill the southeast’s empty seats. There’s going to be no opposing fanbase. Rivalries are hard to maintain when you’re the only side that gives a shit.
Meanwhile, Zona’s Oilers get the Nucks, Jets, Wild and Flames. Fuckin a…
by BannedStreetBully on Oct 14, 2011 10:56 AM EDT reply actions
Rivalries can develop overtime, just like rivalries die overtime.
I don’t mind his plan at all. Not the best one I have seen, and not the worst, but I think the overall idea is right.
Ed Snider is a crotchety old fuck.
That is all.
I accept that, but you have to accept that good rivalries have local 2-way communication. There’s Cowboy fans everywhere. GIants fans locally. So Eagles make good rivals. Again, Rivalries take another side giving a shit. The panthers sub 10,000 attendance averages are going to make poor ass rivals.
It’s not just playing games against someone that does it.
by BannedStreetBully on Oct 14, 2011 11:03 AM EDT up reply actions
Fair enough. And I would think the Flyers would have issues with being in a division with a team like Florida where they are going to lose money on away games due to crap attendance. Kind of like they used to when they played games in Pittsburgh before 87 arrived.
Ed Snider is a crotchety old fuck.
That is all.
Or, like playing the Devils now?
What kind of plane is it? Oh, it's a big pretty white plane with red stripes, curtains in the windows and wheels and it looks like a big ol' Tylenol.
The Devs have plenty of fans, especially around me.
It’s making a trip to Newark that’s a pain in the ass, especially with the public transit being as poor as it is.
They might not have had a contender this year or last, but they’re damn good opponents with a local fanbase.
by BannedStreetBully on Oct 14, 2011 11:11 AM EDT up reply actions
Their home opener was not well attended. They may have a strong fanbase—much like the Braves—but like the Braves they struggle to sell out games, even those of the playoff variety.
What kind of plane is it? Oh, it's a big pretty white plane with red stripes, curtains in the windows and wheels and it looks like a big ol' Tylenol.
The rivalries of today weren’t the rivalries of ten years ago. Were the Bruins on anyone’s rivalry list until the Flyers played them in the 2010 playoffs? Maybe in the 70s, but not in the three decades since then.
The whole concept of “rivalries” comes from repeatedly playing a team with high stakes. If you change who you play with high stakes, you change who your rival is. The Penguins are the Flyers biggest rival right now because they’re good and the Flyers play them a lot in crucial games.
In 2001, 2002, 2003, 2004, 2006, and 2007, the Penguins weren’t the main rival.
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by Geoff Detweiler on Oct 14, 2011 8:15 PM EDT up reply actions
Has anyone thought about how terrible it will be to watch games on Pacific time? The starts won’t be until 10pm on the east coast and won’t be over until 12:30 or 1:00am. To hell with that! It is bad enough when we have to play on the west coast now but if we have to start doing that more often the TV ratings will SUCK. Most viewers are on the east coast and if you start playing more games starting late, less people will watch!
Now you see why things are so bad for Dallas.
And now you understand why Detroit, Nashville and Columbus complain.
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Yeah, but… they don’t have fans, so who cares?
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by Geoff Detweiler on Oct 16, 2011 10:58 PM EDT up reply actions
So I just installed Ad-Block, and ran Advanced System Care, and when I try to view BSH on Firefox 7, it comes up all text along the left side of the screen. Anyone have any idea what that’s about?
I'm kind of a dick.
upgraded to Platinum
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by CoburnsCuddleBuddy on Oct 15, 2011 11:21 AM EDT up reply actions
Chrome used to be slang around my area for a gun. Not sure if that caught on anywhere else, but that’s what he was going for, I think.
I'm kind of a dick.
Advanced System Care
What the hell is that?
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"I think there is virtue in pissing off idiots." - Fehr and Balanced
It’s an optimization program. Cleans, scans, fixes, optimizes….or say it says, I wouldn’t know the difference. Got it at CNET…..
I'm kind of a dick.
Ah. I tend to manage most things manually and don’t use “system optimization” programs like that. Honestly, I just want a virus scanner to check files as they’re introduced to the system (you don’t need to scan an mp3 or image every time I open it, if it was clean when I got it, and I haven’t downloaded any infected files since then, it’s probably clean now), and a firewall to monitor/restrict incoming network traffic. And I’m behind a router, so even the firewall isn’t that necessary. But that’s just my opinion.
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I found out the main football writer for the Oregon Ducks is a BIG Pens fan, so I’ve been going back & forth with him about the Pens & us. I decided to ask him about 24/7 since I didn’t watch it last year & here’s his answer
To a Penguins fan (or Caps I’m sure) that 24/7 show was like porn!
Where the hell is the 2 o’clock number? Yea I know it’s only 1:36 but someone had to say something!
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1,536
Ounces of beer I currently have in my refrigerator. Tonight is pumpkin beer flight night.
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You done lost yo mind!
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5.3 cases of beer.
48 hours in a normal work weekend.
2.6 beers per hour.
From 7-10 on Saturday I would hope your BeerCorsi is slightly higher.
I say pick some good line mates and have a GD blast.
Post Road is my favorite of the pumpkin brews.
Also, has anyone come across the new Dogfish Pearl Jam beer?
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@boknows71
Haha, it’s all being drank tonight (save 6 of the Souther Tier and 6 of the Elysian probably). People asked me to put a flight together. We have Shipyard (12×12oz) (I hate it, but 3 of the girls coming love it, so I’m trying to be nice), Smuttynose (12×12oz), Brooklyn (Post Road) (12×12oz), Tommyknocker (12×12oz), Southhampton (12×120z), Weyerbacher (24×12oz), Elysian (Night Owl) (12×22oz), and Southern Tier (12×22oz).
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I’d like to hear the verdict. Enjoy. Now I want a beer.
"Call me dumb, call me stupid, whatever. I block shots."
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@boknows71
I’ve had them all except Southhampton and Tommyknocker before. But I’ll be curious as to what the consensus is for the night. The first 2 up will split the sexes I think; Shipyard and then Smuttynose. I was disappointed I couldn’t find Punkin which is my personal favorite, or any singles of Oak Jacked Imperial pumpkin from Uinta or La Parcela from Jolly Pumpkin; both are way too much $$$ to buy cases of.
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Agreed on the priciness thing. I have been disappointed by the last few Southern Tier beers I got.
Oak Jacked is a phenomenal choice.
"Call me dumb, call me stupid, whatever. I block shots."
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@boknows71
Southern Tier is not subtle, they usually just go for it. I think they good benefit from a little restraint, but the fact that they don’t restrain themselves is why I crave some of their beers sometimes.
The vanilla with the pumpkin in the oak jacked, oh goodness it is good, just not worth $160 for a case despite it’s knock you on your ass power.
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Best beer inspired video ever
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GNJ5RIxTIpA
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Thats piss water, Pabst Blue Ribbon
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Life’s too short to drink cheep beers.
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@boknows71
Nah, you save that stuff for your drunk friends at parties.
What kind of plane is it? Oh, it's a big pretty white plane with red stripes, curtains in the windows and wheels and it looks like a big ol' Tylenol.
My friends know you don’t come around my house hoping for Coors, Bud etc.
You no likey, then drink wine or liquor.
"Call me dumb, call me stupid, whatever. I block shots."
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@boknows71
What I meant to say is I save the crap for my husbands friends that I don’t like…if that’s better. I don’t drink PBR or any of that stuff personally.
What kind of plane is it? Oh, it's a big pretty white plane with red stripes, curtains in the windows and wheels and it looks like a big ol' Tylenol.
Come on People, Blue Velvet
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Heiniken, F THAT SHIT!!!
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@boknows71
Sounds like a beer snob fest
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by CoburnsCuddleBuddy on Oct 14, 2011 4:02 PM EDT up reply actions
Not really, most of the people didn’t know crap about beer. Hence why I bought a couple crappy pumpkins beers I knew they would like and threw them in to the mix.
Don’t hate just because you didn’t get the invite.
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Semi-inspired by your pumpkin beer flight, my wife and I are talking about hosting an Oktoberfest beer tasting. Might wait for next year though, since Oktoberfest itself is over and I don’t know how much selection stores will have left. That stuff disappears pretty fast. Hopefully I can at least find one more case of Spaten Oktoberfest, party or no party.
Lightning strikes once, Hextall strikes twice!
"I think there is virtue in pissing off idiots." - Fehr and Balanced
Meh. If you can find the Augustiner Marzen, it is absolutely worth the extra money. Spaten is OK, but not as good as some of the others, really.
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by MaximumTalbot on Oct 17, 2011 12:28 PM EDT up reply actions
Cool, I’ll look for it. I like the Spaten a lot, but I honestly haven’t tried that many. Hence the idea for the tasting.
Lightning strikes once, Hextall strikes twice!
"I think there is virtue in pissing off idiots." - Fehr and Balanced
I would also possibly suggest going to Brauhaus Schmidts, to try a bunch at once. Although that does mean not getting to drink at home … it also means getting the Schweinshaxe, which is out-fucking-standing.
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by MaximumTalbot on Oct 17, 2011 2:18 PM EDT up reply actions
here’s some drinking music for you:
Moe- Crab Eyes on ipads
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WzVhVJaKexk
The Sheepdogs
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EaREwRhXlFg
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"I think there is virtue in pissing off idiots." - Fehr and Balanced
Holy shit dude – try stamp collecting or something.
:-)
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by MaximumTalbot on Oct 14, 2011 3:02 PM EDT up reply actions
I’m just gonna skip the thread today, can anyone sum it up for me?
Side note: Predators games/fans? Different. Still ok, but different. But cheap and easy to snipe lower bowl seats.
Keeping alive the old Vaudeville joke, "I'd rather be dead than play Philadelphia."
Blue Cheese, Olives and wine tasting? A little realignment.
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Legein Trade
Hey all, I’m a frequent reader but not a frequent poster, and I may have just missed this, but did the Legein trade to LA “solve” the 50 contract issue as it relates to Couturier? Unregardless they are still up against a wall with the number of contracts, but I’ve been curious to see how this situation will be resolved, and since I didn’t see anything written about I thought I’d ask.
As of now the Flyers have 51 total contracts, two of which are “slide eligible.” Noebels is already on the slide and playing in juniors. Couturier will lose his slide eligibility when he plays in game #11 and the Flyers will be back at the limit. So basically Couturier can stay the whole year.
by hebrew hammer on Oct 14, 2011 2:32 PM EDT up reply actions
Perhaps the NHL should consider adding two more teams.
Possible markets: Seattle? Kansas City? Milwaukee? Houston? Saskatoon?
It might help alleviate some travel concerns if a couple more franchises are added and you can do 8 × 4 like the NFL.
I realize this may not be economically viable at the present moment, but perhaps down the line the NHL should start planning for a 32-team league.
Where’s the Slightly After 2 pm #?
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Hey I provided my own number for the day, it’s right up your ally too.
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Just a few ?????
What’s the over/under of how many games Cindy plays before her eyes are knocked cross eyed again? Does she have a neon target on her back knowing she is vulnerable to concussions like Lindros did? Does she ever get back to her former glory?
G&JJ= optical enjoyment
by flyerfreek on Oct 14, 2011 4:07 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
As the Kings game nears, all I want to do is see Richie and Gagne in the orange and black. It’s hard knowing that all the heart and dedication they have is going towards another team now.
After 10 years, I still can't figure out how Jiri Dopita had a 4 goal game and disappeared.
Anyone in Philly that is looking for a fun night check out Bonerama @ the North Star Bar. 9 pm.
Great Band from Nola.
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Amusing lead in a local paper today:
A rally will go on as planned today despite the fact that a local infrastructure activist group incorrectly thought a bridge was unsafe based on an outdated federal report.
“The news that the bridge is safe makes it less than an ideal location to hold the rally,” one of the rally leaders acknowledged.
by flyersfaninchicago on Oct 14, 2011 5:22 PM EDT reply actions
An unsafe bridge is usually only unsafe for heavy traffic. There was a bridge that was out near me, and people would sunbathe on it, go fishing on it (don’t know why, rapids below), read books or go on dates on it. It’s easy to drive to, and there’s no danger from cars.
The Bridge was unsafe because of structural damage around the edges, but for humans it was steady as anything. The Bridge has since been repaired and there is heavy traffic on it.
It's in his wheelhouse!!
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by Chemistry66 on Oct 14, 2011 5:32 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
Even the goalies are getting concussions now. DiPietro in practice, hit with a shot.
by flyersfaninchicago on Oct 14, 2011 5:34 PM EDT reply actions
I swear that guy was born under a star.
What kind of plane is it? Oh, it's a big pretty white plane with red stripes, curtains in the windows and wheels and it looks like a big ol' Tylenol.
A star a million light-years away moves a nanometer and DiPietro shatters all his bones. What’s left of them anyway.
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by Chemistry66 on Oct 14, 2011 11:38 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Zona’s article on realignment confuses me. I don’t have a problem with “rivalry” smashing, since, as Geoff has been arguing, those eff/flow/change. It’s with the conference based income approach.
Zona is purporting to do an income approach to realignment. Then he moves the Rangers to the Adams, and the Leafs back to the Norris, thus stacking the original 6 teams together in 2 divisions. I don’t see how grouping these 6 together helps with realigning income.
The article doesn’t touch on exchange rate risk, but the divisions he proposed actually seem to deal with it nicely.
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Phantoms win tonight against Bridgeport, 6-3. Schenn scores a hattrick w/ an ENG. Harry Z had one goal, 3 assists, and dominated play all night along w/ Schenn. Leighton tried to score on the empty net in the last minute but missed for an icing call.
Go Lights-Out Leighton!!!
/sarcasm font is not my friend
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by MaximumTalbot on Oct 15, 2011 1:12 PM EDT up reply actions
Nice! Mr. Schenn is sure making a case for himself to get pulled up to the big leagues.
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by Mitchell Green on Oct 15, 2011 5:16 PM EDT up reply actions
So I finally got around to watching Airplane, and I have to say, I really enjoyed it. I absolutely loved the doctor.
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by JerseyDriver on Oct 14, 2011 11:46 PM EDT up reply actions
Big Game Tonight
I’m too excited to sleep. Yeah, that’s what I’ll blame it on.
It's in his wheelhouse!!
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