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Philadelphia Flyers Scoring Chance Summary: Games 1-11

Breaking: Chris Pronger and Jaromir Jagr are good at hockey.

On a game-by-game basis, scoring chance results provide an insight as to how the team played in that game. For example, a team can play well but lose and the scoring chances can illustrate that if a few bounces went their way, the outcome might have been different.

A scoring chance is recorded when an unblocked shot is taken from within the scoring chance zone, shown below, and thanks to a Vic Ferrari script, information about who was on the ice at that time is pulled from NHL.com and turned into a presentable chart.

While an individual games' scoring chance results can be interesting, the true power of this data is found over a large set of games. Scoring chances have been found to correlate strongly with Corsi, which is known to correlate with winning. Moreover, the information is collected from watching the game, which will hopefully convince the "saw him good" crowd of the usefulness of these data.

Of course, after saying this I have to add the caveat that eleven games isn't actually a very large sample size. At the team level, we could say that the Flyers are dominating chances in total and at even-strength, but this could be (and is) affected by a couple of very good games. At the player level, the sample size effect is even greater as the player having the most even-strength minutes is Matt Carle with 187.

Nonetheless, there is value in reviewing the data and seeing how the team has performed, and cautiously making predictions of future results.

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Scoring chance zone

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Total team chances

Period Total CF Total CA Total C% ES CF ES CA ES C% PP CF PP CA SH CF SH CA
1 71 45 61% 42 30 58% 25 1 3 14
2 64 56 53% 46 50 48% 13 0 4 6
3 67 43 61% 52 26 67% 11 0 3 17
4 0 3 0% 0 0 0% 0 0 0 3
Totals 202 147 58% 140 106 57% 49 1 10 40

This table is shown from the Flyers perspective, so SH CF/CA indicates the totals while the opponent is on the powerplay.

  • The Flyers are generating a greater number of chances than they are allowing, 58% in total and 57% at even-strength.
  • They are good in the first period, great in the third and bad in the second (looking at even-strength chances).
  • The powerplay has generated 49 chances from 54 opportunities. While I don't think it's unreasonable to expect one chance every powerplay, the Flyers powerplay tends to take a lot of shots from the point which generaen't counted as chances. Allowing only 1 shorthanded chance is good too
  • The penalty kill has allowed 40 chances on 54 opportunities, as well as getting 10 chances of its own

Individual even-strength chances

 

Player ES TOI ES CF ES CA Chance % ES C/60 ES CA/60 SC +/- per 60
J. JAGR 133.63 55 31 0.64 24.69 13.92 10.78
C. GIROUX 152.02 57 35 0.62 22.50 13.81 8.68
C. PRONGER 104.20 31 17 0.65 17.85 9.79 8.06
M. CARLE 187.13 64 39 0.62 20.52 12.50 8.02
A. NODL 53.42 12 5 0.71 13.48 5.62 7.86
K. TIMONEN 146.70 41 25 0.62 16.77 10.22 6.54
S. COUTURIER 98.68 25 15 0.63 15.20 9.12 6.08
S. HARTNELL 139.13 44 30 0.59 18.97 12.94 6.04
E. GUSTAFSSON 30.85 8 5 0.62 15.56 9.72 5.83
D. BRIERE 151.55 46 33 0.58 18.21 13.06 5.15
J. VAN RIEMSDYK 130.32 41 30 0.58 18.88 13.81 5.06
I. BRYZGALOV 373.83 108 78 0.58 17.33 12.52 4.81
A. MESZAROS 169.77 50 40 0.56 17.67 14.14 3.53
W. SIMMONDS 137.97 39 31 0.56 16.96 13.48 3.48
M. TALBOT 96.67 19 14 0.58 11.79 8.69 3.10
Team average 121.51 35 26 0.56 16.79 14.22 2.57
M. WALKER 34.27 14 13 0.52 24.51 22.76 1.75
S. BOBROVSKY 110.28 30 28 0.52 16.32 15.23 1.09
B. COBURN 197.92 50 48 0.51 15.16 14.55 0.61
B. SCHENN 54.10 14 14 0.50 15.53 15.53 0.00
M. READ 116.60 27 27 0.50 13.89 13.89 0.00
J. VORACEK 119.33 33 35 0.49 16.59 17.60 -1.01
A. LILJA 109.43 22 24 0.48 12.06 13.16 -1.10
J. SHELLEY 19.57 3 5 0.38 9.20 15.33 -6.13
Z. RINALDO 42.18 3 9 0.25 4.27 12.80 -8.53
H. ZOLNIERCZYK 6.67 1 3 0.25 9.00 27.00 -18.00

 

ES TOI, even-strength time on ice; ES CF/CA, total even-strength chances for/against; chance%, percentage of chances for when on the ice ES C/60, number of even-strength chances per 60 minutes of ice time; SC +/- per 60, chances for-chances against per 60 minutes of ice time.

  • The players at the top of the SC+/-per60 list are fairly unsurprising. Jagr, Giroux, Pronger and Carle are all +8 over 60 minutes.
  • As a rookie, Sean Couturier stands out amongst the next group of players (I'm ignoring Nodl and Gus due to even smaller sample size). Him and Talbot have done a good job so far getting positive chances with 3rd/4th line minutes.
  • Matt Read has been on the ice for the same number of chances for as against, despite playing mostly with forwards who are above the team average.
  • Worse is Jakub Voracek and Andreas Lilja, who are both a -1 over 60 minutes.
  • Rinaldo and Shelley are at the bottom, although neither have played a large number of minutes 

Individual total scoring chances

Jagr 30
JVR 24
Simmonds 24
Giroux 23
Briere 18
Voracek 18
Read 13
Hartnell 11
Couturier 9
Talbot 6
Schenn 5
Nodl 4
Shelley 4

 

  • Jaromir Jagr is good.
  • JVR and Simmonds are taking shots from the right areas, hopefully they will start going in the net soon.
  • Voracek has been on the ice for 33 total chances, 18 of which were by him.
  • Hartnell has 11 chances and 4 goals.

Powerplay individual scoring chances for

Note: For the special teams section, the goalies and players with low TOI have been removed

 

Player PP TOI PP CF PP CF/2min
C. PRONGER 26.85 20 1.49
J. JAGR 44.10 31 1.41
C. GIROUX 44.47 31 1.39
W. SIMMONDS 37.88 26 1.37
M. READ 26.90 16 1.19
Team average 34.31 20 1.16
J. VAN RIEMSDYK 34.38 20 1.16
M. CARLE 40.90 23 1.12
S. HARTNELL 15.95 8 1.00
J. VORACEK 38.02 19 1.00
D. BRIERE 36.77 18 0.98
A. MESZAROS 26.67 13 0.98
K. TIMONEN 38.85 17 0.88

PP TOI, powerplay time on ice; PP CF, total chances for; PP CF/2min, powerplay chances for over 2 minutes

  •  The top unit is living up to its name, creating more chances than the collection of players used on the second unit.
  • Seeing Timonen at the bottom is weird. I realise someone has to be there, I can't think why it would be him though.

Penalty kill individual scoring chances against

 

Player SH TOI SH CA SH CA/2min
M. CARLE 13.97 2 0.29
M. READ 27.67 8 0.58
A. MESZAROS 26.35 10 0.76
S. COUTURIER 43.60 17 0.78
A. NODL 15.92 7 0.88
M. TALBOT 48.45 22 0.91
Team average 31.86 15 0.91
B. COBURN 34.60 17 0.98
K. TIMONEN 52.12 29 1.11
C. PRONGER 35.78 21 1.17
C. GIROUX 20.15 17 1.69

SH TOI, short-handed time on ice; SH CA, short-handed chances against, SH CA/2min, shorthanded chances against over 2 minutes

  • Fairly interesting result here, with the players assumed to be the top penalty killers at the bottom of the list. I am guessing it is something to do with which of the opponents powerplay unit each PK unit faces, but without that information it's hard to say. Nonetheless, it's impressive to see Read and Couturier towards the top
  • While it's not chance related, I think it's worthwhile noting that Couturier has more than twice as much time shorthanded as Giroux. Couturier and Talbot are being used extensively short-handed. 

That's all I have, though there are lots of interesting tidbits here that I haven't written about. I'd like to add that I'm open to input either on information presentation (I realise there are a lot of numbers in this post) or other things I could do with the data.

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I find it interesting that there are only two players (other than Shelley, Rinaldo, and Zolniercyzk, who have minimal ice time) who have negative ES scoring chances. Do you think this is related to small sample size? The team is playing well most nights, but not quite well enough for numbers like this to hold up, don’t you think?

si vis Stanley Cup, para bellum

by daddydoc on Nov 1, 2011 8:45 PM EDT reply actions  

It’s probably due to sample size, but the Flyers have been very good at ES chances this year. We can’t say that this will continue throughout the year based on these few games.

In total they’ve won 9 of 11 games in total SC, and 7/11 at ES. When they win at ES, it’s by 3-10 chances. They’ve drawn once, and lost 8-9 to NJ, 9-10 to VAN and 9-14 to MTL. So they typically beat the opponent by a lot, and lose by only a little.

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by ToddtheFox on Nov 1, 2011 9:02 PM EDT up reply actions  

How much do score effects show up? Can you break out scoring chance rates with big lead (2+ goals or any 3rd period lead), close games (within one goal early or tied), or trailing by a lot?

by Eric T. on Nov 1, 2011 9:54 PM EDT up reply actions  

You would ask this wouldn’t you. I was saving all that for a rainy day.

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by ToddtheFox on Nov 1, 2011 11:10 PM EDT up reply actions  

I’ve been staring at it for zone entries, so I was curious.

Speaking of which, we need to merge the two at some point.

by Eric T. on Nov 1, 2011 11:48 PM EDT up reply actions  

I should probably start tracking them. Finding an easy way to do so was the issue but I think I’ve found a way I can incorporate the information into the script notes

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by ToddtheFox on Nov 2, 2011 12:09 AM EDT up reply actions  

Start tracking what?

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by Geoff Detweiler on Nov 2, 2011 1:19 AM EDT up reply actions  

Score effects

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by ToddtheFox on Nov 2, 2011 1:27 AM EDT up reply actions  

I would think Eric can do it for you. He has the fancy script-making ability and all.

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by Geoff Detweiler on Nov 2, 2011 8:55 AM EDT up reply actions  

Pretty simple to do in Excel. If you want to send me your list of zone entries, I can send back a file that separates out biglead-close-bigtrail.

by Eric T. on Nov 2, 2011 9:19 AM EDT up reply actions  

But that’s on the analysis side :) I don’t look at them.

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by Geoff Detweiler on Nov 2, 2011 1:38 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah, my comment was furthering yours and was directed at Todd’s — if he wants, I can easily separate lead/close/trail stats for scoring chances.

by Eric T. on Nov 3, 2011 12:39 AM EDT up reply actions  

Score effects are how the score of the game affects the flow of play. Many times, if we track how the frequency of certain events change due to the situation, it can tell us something about the game of hockey,and maybe a little about the game of life.

It’s pretty advanced stats.

Keeping alive the old Vaudeville joke, "I'd rather be dead than play Philadelphia."

by Snevik on Nov 2, 2011 1:39 AM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

Ooh. Sick burn. Niiiiice.

Bob.

by The Dark on Nov 2, 2011 7:09 AM EDT up reply actions  

Can we say Sean Couturier’s amazing on the PK yet? Second out of all forwards in SH CA/2 min… (and 4th out of forwards in SC +/- at even strength)

Simon Gagne AND Mike Richards may move between towns, wear new jerseys and call different arenas home but, at the end of the day, they will both always be Philadelphia Flyers.

One day Sean Couturier will win the Conn Smythe. You heard it here first.

by PursuitOfLappyness on Nov 1, 2011 9:08 PM EDT reply actions  

We can say he was pretty damn good in games 1-11 on the PK.

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by ToddtheFox on Nov 1, 2011 9:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

Additionally – for an old guy, JJ can still bring it. I can’t claim to know anything about these numbers league wide, but outchancing opponents by almost 2 to 1 sounds pretty good to me.

si vis Stanley Cup, para bellum

by daddydoc on Nov 1, 2011 9:19 PM EDT reply actions  

It’s the Year of Old Guys – Selanne has two goals on two shots and an assist against the Caps tonight.

Bob.

by The Dark on Nov 1, 2011 9:35 PM EDT up reply actions  

There’s 60 seconds in a minute….

by captj on Nov 1, 2011 9:52 PM EDT reply actions  

Thanks. Unfortunately, Excel doesn’t deal with adding time very well, so the easiest solution was to do this.

Tracking the Flyers scoring chances at Broad Street Hockey

by ToddtheFox on Nov 1, 2011 11:08 PM EDT up reply actions  

Haha yeah I know, unfortunately I deal with a lot of that in my Excel projects.

by captj on Nov 2, 2011 7:03 AM EDT up reply actions  

Good stuff. Looking forward to more.

by Eric T. on Nov 1, 2011 9:56 PM EDT reply actions  

Not that this is news, but seeing Pronger at the top of the PP chances/2 minutes list makes it even more clear that his absence is a key reason why the PP has sputtered the past few games.

I root for the All-Hype Team.

by everybodyhitswoohoo on Nov 1, 2011 10:49 PM EDT reply actions  

Maybe. Or maybe it’s the other way around, that the PP has sputtered the past few games and so the person who wasn’t playing in those games didn’t get his PP chance total dragged down when everyone else did.

by Eric T. on Nov 1, 2011 11:01 PM EDT up reply actions  

Hm.

Flyers without Pronger (last 4 games, minus the first ten minutes of the Leafs game): 19 PP chances across 18 PP opportunities
Flyers with Pronger (first 7 games and first 10 minutes of Leafs game): 30 PP chances across 36 PP opportunities

So yeah, it could just be that. I dunno. I can’t be the only one who just feels like the PP is worse without Pronger, am I?

I root for the All-Hype Team.

by everybodyhitswoohoo on Nov 1, 2011 11:57 PM EDT up reply actions  

Great work Todd.

Now we just need to compare and see if you’re influenced by home scorer bias ;)

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by Geoff Detweiler on Nov 2, 2011 1:21 AM EDT reply actions  

Only two games have broken down totals to compare. Another has total game chances. All are listed with Flyers first.

v. Devils (Total, ES, Flyers PP, Flyers PK)
Todd: 15-12, 8-9, 5-0, 3-2
ILWT: 12-9, 6-7, 2-0, 4-2

v. Canadiens
Todd: 14-18, 9-14, 4-0, 1-4
Some French site: 17-25, 9-16, 8-0, 0-9

v. Jets (total only, otherwise known as )
Todd: 20-12
BtN: 14-8 (HA)

Nucks Misconduct and whatever Canes site Zona lists only do monthly total, but I suppose we could solicit specific games; someone has to have a spreadsheet. The Leafs site may or may not be taking a year off? I swear someone from JftC pledged, but I didn’t find anything. Bruins, Sens, and Blues got nuttin.

Keeping alive the old Vaudeville joke, "I'd rather be dead than play Philadelphia."

by Snevik on Nov 2, 2011 2:05 AM EDT up reply actions  

Thanks man. I know I’ve seen the Nucks and Canes recaps for the individual game. If I recall correctly the Nucks recorder gave a huge advantage to Vancouver.

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by ToddtheFox on Nov 2, 2011 2:36 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

Quick work is sloppy work. I saw the monthly wrap-up and moved to the next site.

I got lucky with the Nucks: for some reason, I don’t think they have games 2-5 posted? But here’s the Canes:

Todd: 23-14, 17-12, 2-0, 3-2
Shutdownline: 25-14, 19-10, 2-0, 3-4

Keeping alive the old Vaudeville joke, "I'd rather be dead than play Philadelphia."

by Snevik on Nov 2, 2011 3:03 AM EDT up reply actions  

Also, two different websites are recording for the Canucks. Home and away are different sites.

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by ToddtheFox on Nov 2, 2011 4:39 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

Also, I’ll look at the breakdown tomorrow, but BtN may be/is probably recording ES only? In which case, you had 14-8 as well.

Keeping alive the old Vaudeville joke, "I'd rather be dead than play Philadelphia."

by Snevik on Nov 2, 2011 3:13 AM EDT up reply actions  

Furthermore, they got their numbers from me. So I would hope they are the same.

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by ToddtheFox on Nov 2, 2011 4:35 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

hahahaha

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by Geoff Detweiler on Nov 2, 2011 8:57 AM EDT up reply actions  

Listen: I was less than sober when doing this. Reading things wasn’t a top priority.

Keeping alive the old Vaudeville joke, "I'd rather be dead than play Philadelphia."

by Snevik on Nov 2, 2011 11:59 AM EDT up reply actions  

Haha good. Thanks though. I generally try and find the comparison post after I’ve watched the game, I’m still waiting for that magical day when what I saw matches perfectly with someone else.

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by ToddtheFox on Nov 2, 2011 2:31 PM EDT up reply actions  

Thanks. Really appreciate that.

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by Geoff Detweiler on Nov 2, 2011 8:57 AM EDT up reply actions  


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