Phoenix Coyotes on Ilya Bryzgalov: "He's known for letting in bad goals"
by Travis Hughes on Nov 17, 2011 2:11 PM EST
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Phoenix Coyotes broadcaster Todd Walsh caught up with a few members of the club today, asking them about facing off against their former goaltender. The quotes were... well, just see them for yourself.
First, here's defenseman Derek Morris. You can listen to the interview right here.
Q: What is this team's collective mindset as you take on your former goaltender?
First of all we have to throw a lot of pucks at Bryz. He's known for letting in bad goals, you know, so I think our mindset is going to be get the puck down behind the net and hopefully he comes out and plays a few because he doesn't like to do that.
We have to put some pressure on Bryz. We've gotta make it a tough night, we gotta have guys in front, we've gotta be banging away at rebounds. He gets frustrated that way.
Q: I'm sure there will be some chirping involved, right?
That's expected in every game. But it might go to the extreme today.
Q: There is a mental strength that is missing there, right?
We're actually glad -- first of all, I'm glad he's gone because the guy we brought in has done a great job and fitted in real well, made our team even closer. There was some animosity there with Bryz sometimes. We don't have that with [Mike Smith] so we have a good group and we're winning games because of it.
Q: On using this game as motivation:
It's gonna be great. You know Bryz will be just as prepared. Bryz is one of the best goalies in the game and when he wants to play, one of the best goalies you can have out there. We have a good goalie and a good system and we're going to do what we can to get pucks to the net. I think it's going to be an ugly goal from the side that'll go in on Bryz.
Wow, yikes. Even in praising Bryzgalov, Morris is pretty harsh with it. "Known for letting in bad goals?" "I'm glad he's gone." "When he wants to play." Adrian Aucoin shared the same type of sentiments.
You can listen to Aucoin's talk here.
Q: I actually used a quote of yours you gave to NHL.com about Mr. Bryzgalov -- it was more about Mike Smith, though, where you said he's more approachable. He's here everyday and I can get to know him as a teammate. Can you take that a little further? What did you mean specifically?
We don't always try to win for the right reasons, but anybody who is a professional wants to win no matter what the situation is, who your teammates are, coaches are, how many fans you have there, anything. But it adds to your motivation when you have a good guy back there who you always want to do well for.
Q: Derek Morris just described the relationship between the room and Ilya last year as one with animosity. Is he right?
Absolutely. I honestly haven't met almost any hockey player that's a bad person. I think he was different as a player -- obviously he was a great player -- more as a person. Sometimes he just did things that weren't very typical of hockey players or teammates but he's a good goalie.
Q: Is he misunderstood? Sometimes you look at a guy who's speaking a second language and go wait a minute. My take on it is that's an excuse, so I'm gonna say no, but I'm not his teammate. I was just watching.
No, he's a pretty smart guy. He knew what he was saying.
None of this really has any implication on the Flyers this season, but it is pretty eye-opening stuff. I had no idea Bryzgalov was the kind of guy that would have this impact on his teammates, and ultimately, if the results are there on the ice, it doesn't really matter. But it's certainly fascinating to hear, isn't it?
Thanks to Carl Putnam at Five For Howling for the heads up on these.
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Funny this comes out the night of their game with us and not after he was traded. Sounds like a mental mind f^<& trying to get into his head. No matter what, he has kept us in games and hasn’t lost any for us. (I forgot that Jets game was ever played, purposefully).
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Is it just me, or does JVR look like shit this year? Last couple games he has has some glaring turnovers, sloppy and uninspired play. I think he needs to be removed from the powerplay, period. Was hoping for big things from him this year, but as of late, he looks like he should have a tie and jacket on, eating a hotdog in the pressbox. JV is out playing him, which shouldn’t be the case. I don’t know, maybe its just me?
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by flyerfreek on Nov 17, 2011 2:31 PM EST via mobile reply actions
Shitty play or not, he’s put up 13 points in 16 games
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Agreed. He appears to be coasting. It is possible he is nursing an injury we don’t know about, but I’d like to see him more involved in the flow of play. He is losing puck battles that he should win and making mental mistakes with the puck. I hope it is just a temporary slump because we will need him to be at his best come playoff time.
Exactly my point. Had nothing to do with his point totals. Well if you count his +/- is tied for second with Simmonds, following Schenn with +/- -5. Maybe he is nursing a injury, but don’t remember saying he isn’t producing points, just about his play on the puck. But thanks for pointing that out.
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by flyerfreek on Nov 17, 2011 8:03 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
So we’ll just ignore all the good things he’s been doing (you know, like scoring goals and so on) and focus on your personal perception of how hard he is working (which has absolutely zero evidence to back it up)? I’m not saying he’s been perfect, there have been some turnovers for sure, but you can’t just toss all of his positive contributions aside and completely ignore them. You’ve got to give him some credit for that. But you’re right, you didn’t explicitly say he isn’t producing points, you said he’s playing like shit and should be in the press box. Because we definitely don’t need anybody who’s scoring points on the ice, that’d just be silly.
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If 13 points in 16 games is looking like shit then I’m really really excited to see what happens when he stops looking like shit.
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by everybodyhitswoohoo on Nov 17, 2011 4:08 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
You know, the bad part is, probably very few of the BSH bloggers are really surprised about these comments. Unhappy, yes, but not surprised.
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In 2015, which one of the following will prove to be a better investment?
(a) Ilya Bryzgalov's contract (b) Ryan Howard's extension (c) Mike Vick's extension (d) Greek bonds from 2009 (e) Papelbon's reported bloat-signing
Well this answers our question, “who will the team blame for locker room problems now that Carter and Richards are gone if/when things aren’t going well during stretches or to end a season?”
by DLJr on Nov 17, 2011 3:02 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
They always blame the goaltender, though. It’s tradition!
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Yeah they are definitely trying to get into his head. We will just have to see if it works or if Bryz kicks their ass. Hopefully he knows it’s a dirt tactic and throws down a shut out. And yes JVR does look like chit so far this year in effort. His numbers don’t suck, but his effort is total crap. Not thinking all of a sudden he has to dominate like the playoffs, but it’s going to suck if that’s the only time he thinks he has to turn on the jets.
This is the goal the reporter asked Morris about, I can’t find a “Holmstrom goal when we were up 2-0 in Game 2” since the Coyotes were never up 2-0 in a Game 2.
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by Geoff Detweiler on Nov 17, 2011 2:41 PM EST reply actions
No worse than some Boucher let it in the playoffs, while putting up good numbers.
Bryz definitely played poorly last year, but that happens. It doesn’t change the fact that he’s a good goaltender.
Keeping alive the old Vaudeville joke, "I'd rather be dead than play Philadelphia."
Of course. It happens to everyone, and it happens to him less than most.
I wasn’t commenting on the general. Just…man, that’s a shitty goal.
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I know, but I was commenting in general and not really at you.
I can see how vanity/the fact that it was a reply to your comment would make you think that.
Keeping alive the old Vaudeville joke, "I'd rather be dead than play Philadelphia."
OK. Some people around here are total assholes.
Don’t let vanity/the fact that it was a reply to your comment think I’m talking about you, though.
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by Eric T. on Nov 17, 2011 4:15 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Some people around here are total assholes.
I knew it! I’m surrounded by Assholes!
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by hintzy64 on Nov 17, 2011 5:01 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Major Asshole, sir!
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by doubleh on Nov 17, 2011 5:39 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
He’s probably just getting his goals mixed up. I’d bet he’s talking about the Eaves goal from that game when they were up 2-1. Holmstrom scored earlier in the game so he probably just fudged it.
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by Travis Hughes on Nov 17, 2011 2:55 PM EST up reply actions
This goal? That’s Datsyuk, and it isn’t a terrible goal.
In Game 2 this past season, the Coyotes went down 4-0, so I don’t know what even you’re referring to.
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by Geoff Detweiler on Nov 17, 2011 3:13 PM EST up reply actions
I don’t care enough to think about it much further, if we’re being honest here.
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by Travis Hughes on Nov 17, 2011 3:17 PM EST up reply actions
haha, okay. I just would like to see the goal Derek Morris went out of his way to identify as bad.
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by Geoff Detweiler on Nov 17, 2011 3:18 PM EST up reply actions
Franzen tied 1-1 at in Game 1? http://video.coyotes.nhl.com/videocenter/console?hlg=20102011,3,171&event=DET909
This Coyotes team seems pretty petty.
Keeping alive the old Vaudeville joke, "I'd rather be dead than play Philadelphia."
What is going on in Phoenix? Old teammates hating on Bryzgalov. Turris damaging his career just to get out. Gretzky loved Bryzgalov according to the last flyers broadcast, yet he defenseman talking like he was poisoning the team. Sounds a bit dysfunctional down there. To bad nobody is there to witness it.
I know Bryz didn’t like too much media attention when he was in Phoenix. He said before that one of the worst things was that 90% of the pressure or praise fell on the position, and always told the media to interview other players if he thought they were doing too much with him. But I also remember him being awesome in the community, and most of the fans and player from 2008-2009 loved him. Him and Done were easily the 2 faces of the franchise. Maybe the pressure of actually being good for once and disappointing playoffs for a small but eager fan base soured the locker room.
Also, I don’t think Morris should be the ample voice about locker-room issues, considering he’s on a new team almost every year.
Actually, scratch all of that, anybody that considered Mike Smith is an upgrade over any other goalie should not have an opinion.
What about somebody who wouldn’t trade Andreas Lilja for anybody in the NHL?
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by Geoff Detweiler on Nov 17, 2011 3:19 PM EST up reply actions
Cause Bryz said that when Pronger went down.
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by Geoff Detweiler on Nov 17, 2011 3:27 PM EST via iPhone app up reply actions
Just because I feel like I’ve seen this quote mentioned a few times…
"Not having Chris is a big loss," Bryzgalov was saying Tuesday, after a lightly attended optional practice at the SkateZone. "But everybody has got to step up and fill this hole. I am very confident with every defenseman on our team, with Chris Pronger, with Braydon Coburn, with Kimmo Timonen, with Matt Walker, Andreas Lilja. Every one, I would be very confident with.
"I would not trade these guys to anyone for anyone. Yeah, Chris is hurt right now. But everybody has to step up."
Eh, I feel like there’s a fine line between that (what he said) and “I wouldn’t trade Andreas Lilja for anyone in the NHL”. I guess I see how you’d interpret it that way, but I really don’t think it’s a big deal. I’d rather him say that—where we all clearly know he’s just sticking up for his teammates after they’d had a few rough games in front of him—than “Yeah, we’re good, but it’d be awesome to trade Lilja for Nicklas Lidstrom and Walker for Shea Weber”.
And either way, like JpH says above me here, I’d rather hear him say that than hear Scott Hartnell or Danny Briere or someone say on that “we’re winning games because [Wayne Simmonds/Jake Voracek] is playing really well and aren’t being prima donnas like [Mike Richards/Jeff Carter] were.”
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by everybodyhitswoohoo on Nov 17, 2011 4:24 PM EST up reply actions
As mentioned below: You keep saying that and it sounds like you’re unfairly nitpicking at a comment where Bryz listed out his whole defense and said he trusted them.
I mean how would this sound:
“Not having Chris is a big loss,” Bryzgalov was saying Tuesday, after a lightly attended optional practice at the SkateZone. "But everybody has got to step up and fill this hole. I am very confident with every defenseman on our team, with Chris Pronger, with Braydon Coburn, with Kimmo Timonen, with Matt Walker….ok maybe not Andreas Lilja. Everyone other than him, I would be very confident with.
“Apart from Lilja, I would not trade these guys to anyone for anyone.”
There are times when you don’t speak your mind because you’re not a total asshole.
Simon Gagne AND Mike Richards may move between towns, wear new jerseys and call different arenas home but, at the end of the day, they will both always be Philadelphia Flyers.
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by PursuitOfLappyness on Nov 17, 2011 5:15 PM EST up reply actions
Not calling you an asshole, to clarify haha, just saying Bryz was trying not to be one.
Simon Gagne AND Mike Richards may move between towns, wear new jerseys and call different arenas home but, at the end of the day, they will both always be Philadelphia Flyers.
One day Sean Couturier will win the Conn Smythe. You heard it here first.
by PursuitOfLappyness on Nov 17, 2011 5:16 PM EST up reply actions
And I understand that. But my point is: players say things in the media that aren’t always true.
If people want to slam Morris for saying something positive about Mike Smith at the expense of Bryz, well, Bryz did the same thing.
That’s all.
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by Geoff Detweiler on Nov 17, 2011 5:33 PM EST via iPhone app up reply actions
Troof.
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by Geoff Detweiler on Nov 17, 2011 3:14 PM EST up reply actions
I never understood the idea of what defines a bad goal, or what kind of goalie does/doesn’t let them in. I mean, Bryz and Bobs can make all these amazing saves, but they let one squeak between the arm and the chest pad and its their heads. I’ll take the goalie that will make the great saves and let in a handful of unlucky ones any day, because the unlucky ones happen at a much smaller rate,
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Wasn’t there a Puck Daddy article over the summer that put Osgood’s numbers into perspective? I think one of the stats being shown was his sub-.500 record in elimination games….Osgood was very good, but not HoF worthy. Just my opinion though.
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The funny thing, half the people that agree with you had the same negative things to say about Cech and bad goals when he was here.
Me too! Yay! There’s two of us!
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the guy inspired me to be a goalie and never duck from a high shot. if we had cechmanek of back then on this team or last years team i would mind saying wed have a huge chance for a parade. the guy was like a faster tim thomas. he never gave up on the play and made absolutely obscene saves
Funny, Ron Hextall inspired me to be a goalie and whack at anybody that got too close. Hmm. I guess you go with what you know, eh?
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I saw Russian Circles a few weeks ago in Auckland. Same deal with the crowd too
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by ToddtheFox on Nov 17, 2011 9:04 PM EST via iPhone app up reply actions
Told you it was hot! I think being in the basement of a stone building with a bunch of other people is what does it.
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by LeepinLizardz on Nov 18, 2011 8:56 AM EST up reply actions
Yeah, like I said, I will go stand outside in a t-shirt int he winter just to try to cool down, the place is brutally hot. As far as the crowd goes, and I know someone will call me a hipster for saying it, but that’s why I don’t really go check out many shows any more; too many hipster using it as a chance to be seen being ironic or cool or what have you; ruins the whole feel of a show for me.
I wonder if the team’s opinion of Smith changes when the injury bug catches up to him (because it usually does).
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Best thing to do is light up Smith with a couple of early goals then let Bryz do his stuff,
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by Fr. Orange and Black on Nov 17, 2011 3:13 PM EST reply actions
This is nonsense!
Bryz is our savior!
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by Rrainone on Nov 17, 2011 3:17 PM EST via mobile reply actions
I find the irony in this being posted just under Fr. Orange and Black.
My initial response was, "I hate you so much right now" but I changed it.
by DLJr on Oct 19, 2011 1:15 PM EDT
by 02h32m01s on Nov 17, 2011 3:26 PM EST up reply actions 2 recs
Theres probably some truth in there. But I think it’s more than a little possible that the Yotes are bitter because Bryz got all the credit when the won and didn’t really want to be there at all. Now they’re winning without him and its “see, the rest of us don’t suck so bad and he’s not that great”.
This whole thing reminds me of the Matt Bradley comments about Alex Semin over the summer. Nothing really new, but surprising in that locker room issues get aired in such a public manner.
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by everybodyhitswoohoo on Nov 17, 2011 4:13 PM EST reply actions
Sounds like they’re mad he left for a team thats ‘SUPER CEREAL’ about making the playoffs.
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I agree, that episode is hard to beat. Just hope Bryz is up for the task tonight. I think he will be on his game.
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by JerseyDriver on Nov 18, 2011 8:01 PM EST up reply actions
You mad!
Once he gets his shutout tonight and the media asks him about these quotes, I hope he looks right into the camera and pulls a Cam’ron.
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Or he could sing DJ Khaled’s “All I Do Is Win.” The Maryland marching band played it in our first game this year after every touchdown. The students loved it. Of course, we didn’t do much winning after that, so we haven’t heard it lately….
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So the guy puts Phoenix in the NHL map and this is how they treat him.A little bit more of respect and consideration please
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by Geoff Detweiler on Nov 18, 2011 2:34 AM EST via iPhone app up reply actions
Haha, is this really that far past relevance? Just can’t stand the “Phoenix is nothing without Bryz” talk. That Keith Yandle guy is pretty good.
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by Geoff Detweiler on Nov 18, 2011 11:03 AM EST via iPhone app up reply actions
Oh no, not past relevance. Just noticing that after everyone has metaphorically “left the room” you sneak back in to leave a comment in the wee small hours.
That’s what the archive page is for, my friend.
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by Geoff Detweiler on Nov 18, 2011 8:41 PM EST via iPhone app up reply actions
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