Thursday Morning Fly By: Three Flyers Forwards Failed to Play 5 Minutes Last Night
by Geoff Detweiler on Nov 3, 2011 6:00 AM EDT
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PrintToday's open discussion thread, complete with your daily dose of Philadelphia Flyers news and notes...
- Recaps of last night's win: [BSH] [CSNPhilly] [Inquirer] [Daily News] [Philly Sports Daily] [Flyers Faithful] [The Checking Line]
- Claude Giroux is off to a great start in his new job, "Do Everything Please": [NHL Hot Stove]
- A great recap of Eric Lindros' injuries and the details of how Ketih Jones saved his life: [Backhand Shelf]
- Bill Meltzer wrote a column on how Sami Kapanen has transformed KalPa to the top of the SM-Liga since buying the club: [NHL.com]
- Brian Propp is getting a show on 97.5 The Fanatic, Wednesday at 9 p.m.: [Flyers Faithful]
- If you want to read a story on how those outside Philadelphia buy into and repeat the lazy narrative on Flyers goaltending, read this. Or, if you want to see how there is now a "Flyers' goalie curse", go ahead. If you think this sounds like garbage, don't click it: [National Post]
- A concept design for a new Jets' third jersey: [icethetics]
- A great non-hockey story on the problem with confidence and the failure to admit the short-comings of our knowledge: [NYTimes.com]
- Duncan Keith and Brent Seabrook are no longer playing together. Looking at how Chicago is using their two studs and whether they should be put back together: [Driving Play]
- Why is scoring down in the NHL? Penalties, of course: [Hockey Prospectus]
- When looking at bad penalty kills, how much can cutting down on penalties help? [Hockey Prospectus]
- If you missed BSH Radio 45 yesterday, go back and give it a listen to hear Travis and Ben respond to whining about whining about whining: [BSH]
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I’m wondering if Gus will still be in the lineup when Pronger returns. My guess is Lilja sits when Pronger gets back. I think that’s probably a good thing. Meanwhile, the Flyers may have to keep Holmstrom in the lineup just to win faceoffs. This team is horrible at winning draws.
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On the title: we really need some solid fourth line players. Shelley and Rinaldo are just wasting space, and that is more clear when they both don’t even get 4 minutes.
Who could take their place and play solid?
by CSneer on Nov 3, 2011 7:32 AM EDT via mobile reply actions
The list is limitless honestly.
Ed Snider is a crotchety old fuck.
That is all.
by EREX21 on Nov 3, 2011 7:51 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
and when Schenn, Briere, Betts and Read returns, who play on the 4th line and who sits?
by Anders Jensen on Nov 3, 2011 8:20 AM EDT up reply actions
Any news on when Briere, Betts and Read are returning?
Ed Snider is a crotchety old fuck.
That is all.
Which makes it interesting that you put Read instead of Pronger.
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How do you know Betts is done? there have been no information out at all about him since he went to LTIR
by Anders Jensen on Nov 3, 2011 9:35 AM EDT up reply actions
I guess I don’t know for sure but IMO he won’t play again in the Orange and Black unless we get with a extreme rash of injuries to centers.
Briere … Schenn …
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by MaximumTalbot on Nov 3, 2011 11:47 AM EDT up reply actions
I thought Rinaldo actually brings something to the table. He forced a turnover than lead to the JVR goal and has really laid out some big open ice hits.
i agree. unlike shelly who is more or less afraid to throw a hit now with the fear of getting suspended again, rinaldo plays a strong game, throws his body around and you don’t hear a whole lot of negativity when he’s on the ice. he should receive more than 4 mins a game, he’s basically a better version of carcillo with a lot less red flags and carcillo played more than 4 mins a game while he was here.
Rinaldo was suspended 4 times last year in the AHL. That’s a lot of red flags.
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by Geoff Detweiler on Nov 3, 2011 9:49 AM EDT up reply actions
all i meant was a lot less red flags than carcillo. he can’t even sneeze around a ref without getting something.
And I’m saying it’s completely relative, since Rinaldo gets misconducts for just opening his mouth. If anything, they have equal red flags.
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by Geoff Detweiler on Nov 3, 2011 10:56 AM EDT up reply actions
sure they are in the same ballpark, but at least unlike carcillo, rinaldo doesn’t have that huge X on his back for every little move he makes.
I beg to differ. It’s not just here on BSH that people consider him BatShitCrazy. It took Steve Downie a couple years to shake the judgement that he was a loose cannon – and he still racks up penalty time, just he scores as well. Zac Rinaldo had a reputation coming from the London Knights that he was a lunatic, and his 331 PIMs in one season with the Phantoms did nothing to dispel it.
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by MaximumTalbot on Nov 3, 2011 11:55 AM EDT up reply actions
I still view Downie as somewhat of a loose cannon. I drafted him for my fantasy team specifically to be my PIM guy. I was pleasantly surprised when he started bringing in points too.
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Hmm. Two majors and two misconducts with 42 PIMs after 12 games thus far this season would certainly support your argument. I have no problem with 200 PIM and a half-point per game; if anything that is the prototypical Flyers forward to me (like Tocchet or Clarkie).
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by MaximumTalbot on Nov 3, 2011 1:07 PM EDT up reply actions
3rd in the league in PIMs behind Konopka and Neil. Neil has more points though. Damn.
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Rinaldo has as many points as Downie thus far this season. That’s screwed up somewhere.
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by MaximumTalbot on Nov 3, 2011 1:20 PM EDT up reply actions
you don’t hear a whole lot of negativity when he’s on the ice
What did you mean by this?
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well last night for example, he made one of the better of the game that led to jvr scoring a goal. went for the hit, stick down, caused a turnover. in the games he has played, for the most part, the commentary has praised his game.
So you meant you don’t hear negativity from the announcers?
Not trying to pick a fight, just trying to understand what you were getting at. I thought you might mean that the players were positive when he was on the ice, or that the fans were, but it sounds like you meant the announcers.
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The best part is despite being on the ice for only four minutes, they were on the ice for two of the Flyers four non-matching minors.
They did their best to put the Sabres back in it.
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If you like them, feel free to sign them to ridiculously large contracts when you next get the chance :-)
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by PursuitOfLappyness on Nov 3, 2011 10:05 AM EDT up reply actions
Harry Z.
Holmstrom.
Sestito (maybe – not much improvement over Shelley, but cheaper).
Wellwood.
Testwuide.
Talbot (upon the return from injury of the others).
Bartulis (!).
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by MaximumTalbot on Nov 3, 2011 11:46 AM EDT up reply actions
So Joffrey Lupul is off to one hell of a start in Toronto.
Ed Snider is a crotchety old fuck.
That is all.
must be catching up on Degrassi: The Next Generation
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by CoburnsCuddleBuddy on Nov 3, 2011 8:22 AM EDT up reply actions
This doesn’t make any sense in context, but I wholeheartedly approve of any and all Degrassi references.
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by Ben Rothenberg on Nov 3, 2011 1:31 PM EDT up reply actions
He always had talent.
RJ Umberger, Patrick Sharp, Steve Downie, Joffrey Lupul, Scottie Upshall, Simon Gagne, Mike Richards, Jeff Carter…that’s a pretty solid lineup of forwards we’ve traded away over the years
Simon Gagne AND Mike Richards may move between towns, wear new jerseys and call different arenas home but, at the end of the day, they will both always be Philadelphia Flyers.
One day Sean Couturier will win the Conn Smythe. You heard it here first.
by PursuitOfLappyness on Nov 3, 2011 8:34 AM EDT up reply actions
That’s part of it. But part of it is managing the salary cap poorly.
Ed Snider is a crotchety old fuck.
That is all.
I dunno the cheapest salary besides RFA Downie 1.9 million on that list is 3.5 million you can’t have > 7 forwards making over 3.5 million just isn’t going to happen.
And Downie returned Carle so that was a clear win in that trade.
The biggest mistakes Homer made IMO was the Randy Jones contract which forced us to no resign Knuble. Knuble would have been a huge upgrade over whoever Richards was forced to play with the past two seasons.
Yep and Lupul + Umberger + 2 1st round picks essentially got us Pronger. Basically we’ve done a good job at accumulating forward talent and in the past have managed to use that to trade for defensive talent. Not sure if history’s going to repeat itself with the way things are looking.
Simon Gagne AND Mike Richards may move between towns, wear new jerseys and call different arenas home but, at the end of the day, they will both always be Philadelphia Flyers.
One day Sean Couturier will win the Conn Smythe. You heard it here first.
by PursuitOfLappyness on Nov 3, 2011 10:06 AM EDT up reply actions
History won’t repeat itself in that we didn’t trade forwards for defense but we did trade forwards for younger forwards and a draft pick used on a forward, one who looks pretty good in his role.
Ed Snider is a crotchety old fuck.
That is all.
We traded two top six forwards on a very deep team for four top six forwards that now get shunted around the 3rd/4th lines (when everyone’s healthy). At the same time we’re probably going to lose one of Coburn/Carle this offseason and then lose Timonen and Pronger’s talents will wane too. We will soon have an elite forward corps and a mediocre defense unless trades/free agent signings fill those gaps.
And unfortunately Ryan Nugent-Hopkins is playing very well, but I really can’t wait till Couturier proves himself to be better than RNH.
Simon Gagne AND Mike Richards may move between towns, wear new jerseys and call different arenas home but, at the end of the day, they will both always be Philadelphia Flyers.
One day Sean Couturier will win the Conn Smythe. You heard it here first.
by PursuitOfLappyness on Nov 3, 2011 10:12 AM EDT up reply actions
The Flyers have a pretty good group of young forwards, and Bob is in the same age group. I’d love to see an effort to put some quality d-men in their early 20’s in the system to replace Timonen & Pronger before they fall apart.
So would I. And I hope they trade Bob to do that. No way does he deserve to be a back up.
Ed Snider is a crotchety old fuck.
That is all.
Stop saying Downie returned Carle. Don’t make me get into that again.
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by Geoff Detweiler on Nov 3, 2011 10:57 AM EDT up reply actions
The trade was:
Carle + 3rd for Eminger, Downie, & 4th.
Eminger was acquired four months earlier for a 1st. So that’s Carle + 3rd for 1st, 1st, and 4th.
But the Flyers could only afford Carle with Briere on LTIR. So when Briere came back, the club couldn’t bring him off LTIR and keep Giroux without:
waiving Vaananen
waiving Metropolit
trading Upshall + 2rd for Carcillo
So the Flyers acquired Carle, 3rd, & Carcillo for:
1st, 2nd, Downie, Vaananen, Metropolit, & Upshall.
That’s a lot more complicated than “Carle for Downie”.
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by Geoff Detweiler on Nov 3, 2011 12:08 PM EDT up reply actions
True but it terms of saying boy the Flyers regret giving up Downie. I am at peace with losing him because Carle has been so good. Coupled with the lack of progress from Bourdoun and Marshall, Carle is a huge need.
Who is saying the Flyers regret giving up Downie?
I agree Carle is a huge need, but damn was that a clusterfuck of horrible management.
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by Geoff Detweiler on Nov 3, 2011 12:22 PM EDT up reply actions
My baseball fan instincts suggest it is awkward to analyze trades like this (“SHOULDA TRADED DAT BUM BROWN AND KEPT LEE IN 2009!”)
However, what it does show is the incredibly incrementalistic thinking on the part of Homer. This progression of trades shows a lack of overall direction. The accumulation of talent is not driven by an overarching plan. We thought last year that the plan was to load up on forwards and defense and go light in goal. But maybe that was accidental, and the next move was to get better in goal, and younger at forward. Of course, this does not match the accumulation and combination of age and UFA status on D.
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In 2015, which one of the following will prove to be a better investment?
a) Ilya Bryzgalov's contract b) Ryan Howard's extension (c) Mike Vick's extension (d) Greek bonds from 2009
Yeah, I’m not a fan of revisionist history and I’m not trying to say “should have kept Downie!”
What I’m saying is that the trade wasn’t Carle for Downie, it was multiple layers beyond that. Oh, I’m also saying Randy Jones sucks.
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by Geoff Detweiler on Nov 3, 2011 1:38 PM EDT up reply actions
Yeah, but even if you liked Randy, you didn’t like that we were paying half his salary.
(Thus, incrementalism).
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In 2015, which one of the following will prove to be a better investment?
a) Ilya Bryzgalov's contract b) Ryan Howard's extension (c) Mike Vick's extension (d) Greek bonds from 2009
Absolutely.
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by Geoff Detweiler on Nov 3, 2011 2:09 PM EDT up reply actions
Wonder if we’ll see Marty tonight.
Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm
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by Legion of Bullies on Nov 3, 2011 8:24 AM EDT reply actions
better question is: do you see bob tonight
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by CoburnsCuddleBuddy on Nov 3, 2011 8:30 AM EDT up reply actions
Can’t condone the fat man hate, because i am one of them, and actually like marty
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by CoburnsCuddleBuddy on Nov 3, 2011 8:34 AM EDT up reply actions
We get Bob and the Moose I believe.
http://www.northjersey.com/sports/133134198_Devils_notes__Johan_Hedberg_to_start_at_Flyers.html
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by Flyers_Section_121 on Nov 3, 2011 8:37 AM EDT up reply actions
Goddamn, Don will be leading me by 2 starts if Fleury starts tonight
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by CoburnsCuddleBuddy on Nov 3, 2011 8:39 AM EDT up reply actions
I don’t know how quickly these guys update this site but you might be able to check starters here: http://www2.dailyfaceoff.com/starting-goalies/
They just seem to list first on the depth chart as unconfirmed until they get the actual information.
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by Flyers_Section_121 on Nov 3, 2011 8:46 AM EDT up reply actions
Interesting article about Lindros and Jones… it’s amazing what happens when you go with your “gut” feeling instead of the proper procedure.
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That’s kinda the thing though: I don’t think Jones was going against “proper procedure”. I didn’t know he found Lindros there after going to sleep and waking up. Lindros in a tub for ~7 hours because he can’t breath, and you want to put him on a plane? Uh, no.
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by Geoff Detweiler on Nov 3, 2011 9:00 AM EDT up reply actions
and decided with Flyers’ orthopedic physician Arthur Bartolozzi
The problem’s right there. Orthopedic physicians tend to care about bones a lot and forget some other things.
Watch this if you want a feel of what I mean: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q0S5EN7-RtI
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by PursuitOfLappyness on Nov 3, 2011 9:10 AM EDT up reply actions
I’m glad they’re home tonight and Saturday night. I think we only have 5 home games in November and 3 in December (and I’m going to miss the Montreal game on Nov 25th…sadness) so these next couple of months will seem like an eternity until the 2012 home game blitz.
I did get a Jagr shirt since my boss is a huge Penguins fan and he spent 20 minutes this morning telling me that Jagr didn’t want to come to Pittsburgh because he didn’t want to play in Crosby and Malkin’s shadow because of the “Jagr ego” effect. Sigh.
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"Some might give head coach Dave Tippett and general manager Don Maloney plenty of credit for guiding the Coyotes to two straight playoff berths amid franchise foibles – and they deserve much of it – but Bryzgalov was far and away the team’s most valuable player." - NBC Sports
by Flyers_Section_121 on Nov 3, 2011 9:15 AM EDT reply actions
It makes me laugh thinking of Giroux being brought into the coach’s office, being sat down in front of Lavvy and Holmgren. The room’s really dark with only a hanging lamp, Holmgren is leaning back with his arms crossed, looking away angrily. Lavvy is there gesturing with his hands, bringing Giroux closer before laying down the most important line of this private meeting: “Do Everything Please.”
It's in his wheelhouse!!
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Three Flyers Forwards Failed to Play 5 Minutes Last Night
Which three? I was expecting to find this info in one of the linked articles, but don’t see it discussed anywhere.
Yeah, that was just something I saw at the end and found hilarious.
Holmstrom (4:57), Rinaldo (3:37), & Shelley (3:28).
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by Geoff Detweiler on Nov 3, 2011 9:29 AM EDT up reply actions
So – about three and half minutes too many for two of those people?
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by MaximumTalbot on Nov 3, 2011 11:48 AM EDT up reply actions
As long as Rinaldo keeps playing smart hockey, I don’t mind him. At all. If he can be Patrick Kaleta – apparently he worked on PK the week he was on the Phantoms – I’ll love him.
But at the moment, all he does is hit people and take penalties. He’s making progress though.
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by Geoff Detweiler on Nov 3, 2011 12:09 PM EDT up reply actions
We have Briere and Hartnell to take bonehead penalties, and Talbot is supposed to hit people. Rinaldo isn’t useful.
Kaleta had 78 PIM in 51 games for Buffalo last season. Rinaldo has 40 minutes in 8 games. No comparison.
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by MaximumTalbot on Nov 3, 2011 1:11 PM EDT up reply actions
I don’t really think Kaleta is that useful for the Sabres.
Keeping alive the old Vaudeville joke, "I'd rather be dead than play Philadelphia."
It depends what you mean by “that useful”.
He’s a fourth liner, for sure. But he is the best at drawing penalties in the NHL. And he plays on the PK, if not all that much.
He’s more useful than Shelley.
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by Geoff Detweiler on Nov 3, 2011 1:41 PM EDT up reply actions
Garrett Klotz is more useful than Shelley. :)
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by MaximumTalbot on Nov 3, 2011 1:43 PM EDT up reply actions
Carchidi is more useful than Shelley.
What kind of plane is it? Oh, it's a big pretty white plane with red stripes, curtains in the windows and wheels and it looks like a big ol' Tylenol.
by doubleh on Nov 3, 2011 1:45 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Wow, his consistency in PDRAW/60 is almost the exception to the rule.
07-08: 5.0
08-09: 4.9
09-10: 4.1
10-11: 2.1 (Skinner led the league with 2.6)
That shouldn’t be able to happen. And of course he’s more useful than Shelley. Rinaldo is probably more useful than Shelley already.
Keeping alive the old Vaudeville joke, "I'd rather be dead than play Philadelphia."
Kaleta
He actually starts on the PK this year (in general), but the sabres use a lot of forwards to kill a 2-minute penalty and don’t take a whole lot of them.
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"Had miller played the rest of the game facing that many shots, he’d have ended up with 120 shots against"
in the future, if you’re curious about stuff like this, you can find it on the nhl.com site. I would imagine the Flyers website has the same
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I always go to the Flyers site (conveniently bookmarked on my toolbar) and use their “Last Game” box on the right hand side. Super convenient.
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by Geoff Detweiler on Nov 3, 2011 9:32 AM EDT up reply actions
Dude. Keith Jones, saving lives and taking names. That’s an incredible (and terrifying) story. Thanks for linking it.
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Was that the collapsed lung thing? I haven’t clicked the article yet, but I vaguely remember that happening.
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Yeah. But it goes into so much more detail of Lindros’ injury history.
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by Geoff Detweiler on Nov 3, 2011 10:57 AM EDT up reply actions
Wow, it sure does. I forgot about the knee and eye injuries. And had no idea just how scary the collapsed lung was. Jonesey definitely saved his life on that one. Terrifying that the medical staff got that so completely wrong.
Lightning strikes once, Hextall strikes twice!
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I must have missed this last night, but Kileta is going to have a hearing with Shanny today for headbutting Voracek.
This station is non-operational
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BUF’s Patrick Kaleta has disciplinary hearing today for headbutt on PHI’s Jakub Voracek last night.
Anybody have video of this?
No but it seems like Kaleta is a serial headbutter.
http://www.hockeyhub.net/video/449/patrick-kaleta-headbutt
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by Flyers_Section_121 on Nov 3, 2011 10:09 AM EDT up reply actions
Which is from someone elses’…
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by Geoff Detweiler on Nov 3, 2011 10:57 AM EDT up reply actions
@fakeGeoffD ???
"Call me dumb, call me stupid, whatever. I block shots."
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I like this idea.
Lightning strikes once, Hextall strikes twice!
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That would be the highest form of flattery.
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by Geoff Detweiler on Nov 3, 2011 12:09 PM EDT up reply actions
I was tempted to start an @JeffyDets, but my hatred of twitter kept me from it.
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did anyone hear the Bryz interview today on WIP….. I heard it was super funny and he did it in a borat voice…If someone has a copy or even a transcript can you post it up….thank you
It was Joe Conklin or something. Morganti said this would happen
by mantis toboggan on Nov 3, 2011 10:27 AM EDT up reply actions
whew. for a minute there i was worried Bryzgalov was distracting himself for his next game.
by flyersfaninchicago on Nov 3, 2011 12:24 PM EDT up reply actions
Recalculating…
Lightning strikes once, Hextall strikes twice!
"I think there is virtue in pissing off idiots." - Fehr and Balanced
Those commercials are hysterical.
What kind of plane is it? Oh, it's a big pretty white plane with red stripes, curtains in the windows and wheels and it looks like a big ol' Tylenol.
Commercials? Did I make a reference that I myself didn’t get?
Lightning strikes once, Hextall strikes twice!
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Mayhem.
GMAT verbal section question, Philadelphia sports version.
In 2015, which one of the following will prove to be a better investment?
a) Ilya Bryzgalov's contract b) Ryan Howard's extension (c) Mike Vick's extension (d) Greek bonds from 2009
I like the most recent blind spot one and the GPS ones the best. That guy used to be on “Oz,” and he’s a pretty good actor.
What kind of plane is it? Oh, it's a big pretty white plane with red stripes, curtains in the windows and wheels and it looks like a big ol' Tylenol.
This. They actually seem to be getting better, which is rare for commercial series.
GMAT verbal section question, Philadelphia sports version.
In 2015, which one of the following will prove to be a better investment?
a) Ilya Bryzgalov's contract b) Ryan Howard's extension (c) Mike Vick's extension (d) Greek bonds from 2009
Yeah, I love SVU. I’m a L&O freak, but only the original and SVU.
What kind of plane is it? Oh, it's a big pretty white plane with red stripes, curtains in the windows and wheels and it looks like a big ol' Tylenol.
Oh! That’s where I’ve seen him before! Thanks!
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More notably:
Around June 19, 2009, after shooting the Happy Town pilot, Winters contracted a bacterial infection and collapsed upon arrival at his doctor’s office, and while being transported across Central Park in an ambulance, Winters’ heart stopped beating for 2½ minutes. Paramedics were able to revive him, and Winters was hospitalized in intensive care for three weeks. Over the course of the next year, Winters developed gangrene, requiring the amputation of two toes and part of a thumb (five-eighths) and ten subsequent operations.
Holy shit. That’s terrible.
Read about Mark Ruffalo’s brain tumor sometime—he was originally supposed to be in “Signs” with Mel Gibson. Had to learn how to talk again.
What kind of plane is it? Oh, it's a big pretty white plane with red stripes, curtains in the windows and wheels and it looks like a big ol' Tylenol.
I heard them say during the game last night that Pronger skated at practice yesterday. Maybe if someone around here went to practices I wouldn’t have to wait to hear the news from real reporters like Doc and Edzo.
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OT
I yelled at one of my cats last night for chewing on something. He knew he was being bad, and ran to the safety of this cardboard box that they love. I told him “that’s right, you sit in the box. Feel shame.”
My wife doesn’t understand half of the random crap I say. :-p
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by hintzy64 on Nov 3, 2011 10:57 AM EDT reply actions 3 recs
Thank you so much for this
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by CoburnsCuddleBuddy on Nov 3, 2011 11:04 AM EDT up reply actions
I sometimes wonder what it’s like inside a normal person’s head. Do they have as much fun as I do? I hope so.
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The answer is no. I speak in reference, and with every reference i remember the scene fondly and have a shit eating grin on my face.
it makes me extremely hard to have a conversation with, but when I find people who understand, it’s very much worth it
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by CoburnsCuddleBuddy on Nov 3, 2011 11:14 AM EDT up reply actions
I do that a lot too. Drives my wife nuts. But I don’t care, I enjoy my half of the conversation whether she gets it or not.
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back in school, my closest fraternity brother and I would play a lot of beer pong. We would do the bash brothers forearm bump after making a cup. But perhaps my favorite past time was when we had a sorority over, and when there were larger sized women there, one of us would yell, “We Are Marshall”
I do not discriminate, I’ve hooked up with more larger women then skinny
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by CoburnsCuddleBuddy on Nov 3, 2011 11:23 AM EDT up reply actions
Just whom to you expect to answer this??? Remember your audience here …
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by MaximumTalbot on Nov 3, 2011 11:50 AM EDT up reply actions
It was a rhetorical question!
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Ah. Perhaps a normal person would have understood that.
:)
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by MaximumTalbot on Nov 3, 2011 1:12 PM EDT up reply actions
Ha I immediately thought “and Hintzy’s going on the Pecoooooooooo Power Play!”
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by Flyers_Section_121 on Nov 3, 2011 11:04 AM EDT up reply actions
yes but the point is is that there’s a reference in there, that if you don’t get, you’re missing out on
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by CoburnsCuddleBuddy on Nov 3, 2011 11:05 AM EDT up reply actions
The Slap Shot reference?
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by Flyers_Section_121 on Nov 3, 2011 11:06 AM EDT up reply actions
then you got it. Thank you
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by CoburnsCuddleBuddy on Nov 3, 2011 11:07 AM EDT up reply actions
Yep I figured that reference didn’t need to be pointed out. I’m just so revved up for the game tonight. It feels like ages since the Carolina game.
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by Flyers_Section_121 on Nov 3, 2011 11:12 AM EDT up reply actions
you’d be surprised how many people don’t understand the reference. movie is pretty old
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by CoburnsCuddleBuddy on Nov 3, 2011 11:18 AM EDT up reply actions
I guess to me it’s like a rite of passage. I mean it has some of the greatest characters ever and some of the funniest lines ever. Plus I only ever played goal so Denis Lemieux to me is a pure classic.
I actually used to travel with that movie in my bag. They released an anniversary edition that my wife got me to replace the older copy. It’s just a flick you can’t ever get tired of.
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by Flyers_Section_121 on Nov 3, 2011 11:27 AM EDT up reply actions
Plus I only ever played goal so Denis Lemieux to me is a pure classic.
Samsies.
I actually haven’t watched Slapshot in a very, very long time. I should fix that. For me, I think my go-to movies are probably Blazing Saddles and Snatch. Emperor’s New Groove might be up there too, mostly for Kronk.
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Love them both (BS and Snatch) and I can add Spaceballs and Strange Brew to the list of a couple more I can watch over and over.
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by Flyers_Section_121 on Nov 3, 2011 11:35 AM EDT up reply actions
i named by BSh fantasy team after this
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by CoburnsCuddleBuddy on Nov 3, 2011 11:14 AM EDT up reply actions
.
I’m not sure my wife understands why I thought this was so funny.
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by Geoff Detweiler on Nov 3, 2011 11:31 AM EDT up reply actions
Hmm. I think I might be missing something. He’s in the box. He’s thinking about what he did. Is there more?
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That picture reminds me of the movie Rope.
Anyone? Anyone? Bueller?
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by Ben Rothenberg on Nov 3, 2011 1:39 PM EDT up reply actions
Why are our next three games with national coverage on Wednesday nights? Don’t they know I have volleyball on Wednesdays? Tuesday or Thursday would really be so much better for me.
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is this random question for us or your wife? or your cat?
/reference
by flyersfaninchicago on Nov 3, 2011 12:37 PM EDT up reply actions
Just another pointless rant. :-p
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So…
What was up with the random ghostly appearance of the word ‘OK’ on the telestrator during live action last night? Am I the only one who found that hilarious?
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I thought that was just some artifact from my bootleg stream from Irish television. It’s way more awesome that everyone saw it.
by hebrew hammer on Nov 3, 2011 11:38 AM EDT up reply actions
Hmm. The one I saw said “Kill him now.” Maybe it was targeted advertising.
by flyersfaninchicago on Nov 3, 2011 12:39 PM EDT up reply actions
I saw that too!
I think I figured out what it was. The producer probably was telling Edzo something off mic. Edzo didn’t want to talk because Doc was talking so instead he wrote down OK on a piece of paper that happened to be on top of the telestrator. He didn’t realize he was drawing on the screen then had to erase it quickly.
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by KreiderDesigns on Nov 3, 2011 12:46 PM EDT up reply actions
I dunno, the OK was drawn out a lot slower and more jig-jaggedy than I’d expect from someone writing with pen on paper; I think it had to be on the telestrator.
But regardless of what the reason was, it was hilarious and I’m surprised not to find it on youtube and Puck Daddy and the like.
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Maybe the paper desensitized the screen so it was a little wonky. Just my theory.
True. You’d think it’d be somewhere.
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by KreiderDesigns on Nov 3, 2011 12:57 PM EDT up reply actions
Yeah, I could see the jig-jaggediness, but who writes that slowly with pen and paper?
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We are talking about Edzo…he’s a bit slow as it is. Or maybe it was Doc writing. He’s what like 70?
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by KreiderDesigns on Nov 3, 2011 1:00 PM EDT up reply actions
I’ve been fighting the urge to say this for a while this morning. :-p
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The real trick is to resist the urge to post this 4 other times.
by JpH89 on Nov 3, 2011 11:46 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Literally lol’d
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by KreiderDesigns on Nov 3, 2011 12:47 PM EDT up reply actions
That’s odd, I figuratively lol’d.
being obnoxious and self righteous while ignoring the point since 9/29/11
Hehehehe.
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by Ben Rothenberg on Nov 3, 2011 1:39 PM EDT up reply actions
I can’t believe I’m about to ask such a rookie question. However, does the opening faceoff of every period HAVE to be at center ice? The only reason I ask is because I believe to start the 3rd we had a power play as a result of the shenanigans at the end of the 2nd period and was just thinking about the faceoff rule to begin a power play.
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by PraiseMartyMoose on Nov 3, 2011 11:41 AM EDT reply actions
I don’t know the official rule, but yes, every period starts at center ice. Which I hate. I’ve said for years that a team on the PP should get the opining faceoff in the offensive zone.
I’ve always thought that if the losing team is within 1 goal and on the powerplay as time expires, time should be extended for as long as the PP takes place. Soccer gave me that idea
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by CoburnsCuddleBuddy on Nov 3, 2011 11:50 AM EDT up reply actions
this and the game can’t end on an icing call going against the team who is up one goal. If there’s a second left and the ref has his arm raised for an icing, at the point in time the arm is raised, that much time goes back on the clock
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by CoburnsCuddleBuddy on Nov 3, 2011 11:54 AM EDT up reply actions
Overly technically and maybe a stupid idea but if fairness shouldn’t Brzy be awarded a 1.00 SV PCT last night neither goals were scored from a shot on goal?
Good point
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I definitely agree with chris’ thinking here.
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by Flyers_Section_121 on Nov 3, 2011 12:22 PM EDT up reply actions
That jets third jersey is pretty awesome?
by ryanitus on Nov 3, 2011 12:35 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
I liked it a lot. I really was a fan of the old one.
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by Flyers_Section_121 on Nov 3, 2011 1:39 PM EDT up reply actions
That NYT story about confidence was also about turning the observed “knowledge” into a storyline.
“This was a perfect instance of a general rule that I call WYSIATI, "What you see is all there is." We had made up a story from the little we knew but had no way to allow for what we did not know about the individual’s future, which was almost everything that would actually matter.”
by flyersfaninchicago on Nov 3, 2011 12:42 PM EDT reply actions
TSNBobMcKenzie Bob McKenzie
Wow, that didn’t take long. NSH signs Pekka Rinne to a 7 year, $49M extension. Big commitment from Preds’ ownership. Now, they try for Suter
Bryzgalov is underpaid!
by mantis toboggan on Nov 3, 2011 12:51 PM EDT reply actions
It’s Nashville. They have no choice
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by CoburnsCuddleBuddy on Nov 3, 2011 12:57 PM EDT up reply actions
it’s not the cap floor. Has to do with their fans and keeping attendance up
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by CoburnsCuddleBuddy on Nov 3, 2011 12:58 PM EDT up reply actions
This. Suter will likely be signed as well. They won’t go 7, but they could go 5 or 6.
Weber, eh, not so much. He’s clearly been 3rd in line all along.
GMAT verbal section question, Philadelphia sports version.
In 2015, which one of the following will prove to be a better investment?
a) Ilya Bryzgalov's contract b) Ryan Howard's extension (c) Mike Vick's extension (d) Greek bonds from 2009
I just realized this was ambiguous. I mean $5 or $6 million. Easily could be 7 years.
GMAT verbal section question, Philadelphia sports version.
In 2015, which one of the following will prove to be a better investment?
a) Ilya Bryzgalov's contract b) Ryan Howard's extension (c) Mike Vick's extension (d) Greek bonds from 2009
Rinne : Nashville
Parent: Philadelphia in 1973.
/imagine what Bernie would get in today’s market
GMAT verbal section question, Philadelphia sports version.
In 2015, which one of the following will prove to be a better investment?
a) Ilya Bryzgalov's contract b) Ryan Howard's extension (c) Mike Vick's extension (d) Greek bonds from 2009
Hope this mean his play goes up. He’s on my fantasy team and a bit disappointing.
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by KreiderDesigns on Nov 3, 2011 12:58 PM EDT up reply actions
Rinne’s career numbers – 0.920 SV% and 2.34 GAA, best season 0.930 SV% and 2.12 GAA.
Bryzgalov’s career numbers – 0.915 SV% and 2.55 GAA; season best 0.921 SV% and 2.29 GAA.
Ergo, Rinne is demonstrably better than Bryzgalov, and deserves to be more overpaid.
/sarcasm? Or just snarky?
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by MaximumTalbot on Nov 3, 2011 1:18 PM EDT up reply actions
Yeah, but he plays for Nashville!
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Which is exactly why he is actually worth more to the team.
I am not at all surprised by the length. I’m a bit surprised by the amount. I would really like to see the capgeek on this. It would not at all surprise me to see it go UP in salary over time rather than DOWN (a la Bryzgalov and Pronger).
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In 2015, which one of the following will prove to be a better investment?
a) Ilya Bryzgalov's contract b) Ryan Howard's extension (c) Mike Vick's extension (d) Greek bonds from 2009
That was intended as sarcasm, echoing the “but he was playing in Phoenix” argument regarding Bryz. But you ran with it, good job. :-)
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Yeah, I knew you were. I do that to my students too, keeps them off-balance. :-))
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a) Ilya Bryzgalov's contract b) Ryan Howard's extension (c) Mike Vick's extension (d) Greek bonds from 2009
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by Geoff Detweiler on Nov 3, 2011 2:15 PM EDT up reply actions
Wow! Capgeek is really really fast!
/was planning on looking sometime in the few days or so!
That is also very surprising. That is a very high percentage of their current cap (near the floor).
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In 2015, which one of the following will prove to be a better investment?
a) Ilya Bryzgalov's contract b) Ryan Howard's extension (c) Mike Vick's extension (d) Greek bonds from 2009
Read the Puck Daddy article on the Kaleta headbutt. I should always stop before the comments but I couldn’t help myself. The majority of the comments basically say, “Who cares? The Flyers aren’t even really people.”
What kind of plane is it? Oh, it's a big pretty white plane with red stripes, curtains in the windows and wheels and it looks like a big ol' Tylenol.
I mean, wtf? These guys are just mercenaries. You’re rooting for laundry, folks!
What kind of plane is it? Oh, it's a big pretty white plane with red stripes, curtains in the windows and wheels and it looks like a big ol' Tylenol.
You knew better than to read the comments!
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It’s like a goddamned car wreck, hintzy! I have too much faith in humanity, I guess, and I’m always hoping someone will surprise me.
What kind of plane is it? Oh, it's a big pretty white plane with red stripes, curtains in the windows and wheels and it looks like a big ol' Tylenol.
I hear ya, I always fall into that trap too. I can’t even read the comments on gocomics anymore. I wanted to strangle whoever thought it would be a good idea to allow user comments on that site. They’re friggin comic strips, people! Lighten up! Stop being ignorant assholes!
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Comments sections tend to bring out everyone’s id. As if we need to hear everyone’s opinion on whether or not they think wrestling is fixed.
What kind of plane is it? Oh, it's a big pretty white plane with red stripes, curtains in the windows and wheels and it looks like a big ol' Tylenol.
And now you’ve gone over my head. :-p
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LOL. I once saw the id described thusly and it stuck: “think of the mind of a newborn as completely ‘id-ridden’, in the sense that it is a bunch of instinctive drives and impulses, and requires immediate satisfaction.”
That’s what these commenters are: newborn children.
What kind of plane is it? Oh, it's a big pretty white plane with red stripes, curtains in the windows and wheels and it looks like a big ol' Tylenol.
So … millenials are newborns still?
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by MaximumTalbot on Nov 3, 2011 1:45 PM EDT up reply actions
Only those whose parents are encouraging it in them and allowing them to be.
What kind of plane is it? Oh, it's a big pretty white plane with red stripes, curtains in the windows and wheels and it looks like a big ol' Tylenol.
So when I have kids, what do I do to make them not do that?
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It’s a tightrope, honestly. You don’t want to spank, because that doesn’t teach anything, but you have to have discipline. I take away the things he loves most (junk food, tv, legos) and I don’t make idle threats. I’ve thrown toys away in the past. He had exactly one tantrum at age 2 and I left him in the store and walked away (I still could see him, so he was safe). He never did it again.
But all kids work differently. What works for one kid might not work for the next one. The most important thing is to set rules and stick to them and never waiver. Kids see weakness out of one or both parents and they exploit it. Smart little mfers.
What kind of plane is it? Oh, it's a big pretty white plane with red stripes, curtains in the windows and wheels and it looks like a big ol' Tylenol.
I dunno, I feel that spanking was good at teaching me “don’t do that”, but maybe that’s just me. And I know attitudes on that have changed over the past decade or so. But yes, I can definitely understand that you don’t make idle threats. If you back off they’ll run all over you. Being id-driven, as you say, they’ll have absolutely no problem exploiting a loophole if they find it.
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As evidenced below, I think the whole ‘not spanking’ thing is weak. It’s a little like training a dog – a quick whack on the nose that shocks more than hurts is far more effective than simply saying “no” at first – and it progresses to where the saying of “no” brings the association of the shame of the smack, so the physical is no longer necessary, just the threat thereof.
But hey – if other forms of discipline work for your kids, go ahead. I figure my kids will be a lot like me, in that I’ll need to employ electric shocks just to get them to eat their peas.
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by MaximumTalbot on Nov 3, 2011 2:11 PM EDT up reply actions
OK, my issue with spanking isn’t corporal punishment, per se. After all, my Dad spanked me and I certainly don’t blame him for child abuse. I just don’t think spanking or hitting teaches you anything than how to hit. i.e., it doesn’t really make you think twice about what you just did, just that you don’t want to get caught next time. Also, I feel that when employed regularly, it makes a child think it’s OK to hit when they are angry. For instance, I hit my Dad back once when I was a teenager.
So I think making them understand what they did wrong is more important, but that’s just me. I spanked my son once—when he did something really egregious as a 1-1/2 year old—and it was worse on me than it was on him. He was terrified. Then he became terrified of me. I just don’t feel that’s a good environment and I’m not a super hippy dippy person as you well know.
To each his own, but that’s my two cents FWIW.
What kind of plane is it? Oh, it's a big pretty white plane with red stripes, curtains in the windows and wheels and it looks like a big ol' Tylenol.
Hmm…excellent points. Thanks, HH.
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Some food for thought, in case you have yet to see this:
http://news.yahoo.com/dad-caught-video-beating-daughter-needs-help-070228201.html
The father is a court judge;
Adams, Aransas County’s top judge, was elected in 2001 and has dealt with at least 349 family law cases in the past year alone, nearly 50 of which involved state caseworkers seeking determine whether parents were fit to raise their children.
I hit my Dad back once when I was a teenager.
Wow. Only once? You were boring.
As long as the understanding that it is measured and punitive, not simply cruel, is impressed on the child, I think spanking is fine. I think that as they develop more advanced understanding of actions and reactions, and consequences for their actions, the corporal punishmnet aspect is easily reduced and replaced (as you suggest) with priviledge reduction. However, my personal experience said that being sent to my room without dinner meant I could read in peace and didn’t have to eat my mother’s rotten cooking. :)
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by MaximumTalbot on Nov 3, 2011 5:55 PM EDT up reply actions
In all honesty, one of the lovely side-effects of my time in the military is my ‘command voice’. When you screwed up, there’s no mistaking it; the snap is hard to miss. I only roll it out occassionally though because it scares the shit out of my daughter (and my wife for that matter).
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by MaximumTalbot on Nov 3, 2011 2:23 PM EDT up reply actions
I’ve started regular beatings whenever my daughter whines for any reason. Once she’s over a year old, we’ll institute other measures.
:)
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by MaximumTalbot on Nov 3, 2011 2:07 PM EDT up reply actions
I should rephrase that. I can no longer read my daily comics on gocomics because the comments always catch my eye, and before I can stop myself I’ve read enough to put my blood pressure through the roof. I want to start my mornings with laughs, not blind rage.
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I read Peanuts on there and I agree totally about the comments.
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by Flyers_Section_121 on Nov 3, 2011 1:50 PM EDT up reply actions
I read Calvin and Hobbes. It’s incredible how some people can twist the adventures of a 6-year-old and his tiger into political statements, racial slurs, homophobic comments, etc.
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Usually people love to over analyze the heck out of the Peanuts comics. It’s like a simple joke that gives you a chuckle but the comments can’t let it be. Drives me nuts.
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by Flyers_Section_121 on Nov 3, 2011 1:59 PM EDT up reply actions
Does it drive you…peanuts?
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Yep! Haha…it’s not a lot of pun when they’re driving me peanuts!
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"Some might give head coach Dave Tippett and general manager Don Maloney plenty of credit for guiding the Coyotes to two straight playoff berths amid franchise foibles – and they deserve much of it – but Bryzgalov was far and away the team’s most valuable player." - NBC Sports
by Flyers_Section_121 on Nov 3, 2011 2:03 PM EDT up reply actions
I’m sorry, but I have to throw this out there. Anytime someone (myself included) uses the phrase “driving me nuts”, or something along those lines, I picture a pirate with a ship’s wheel in his pants, and it makes me chuckle. I love that joke.
Lightning strikes once, Hextall strikes twice!
"I think there is virtue in pissing off idiots." - Fehr and Balanced
Ha that’s great. Now I have that image in my head! Doh!
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"Some might give head coach Dave Tippett and general manager Don Maloney plenty of credit for guiding the Coyotes to two straight playoff berths amid franchise foibles – and they deserve much of it – but Bryzgalov was far and away the team’s most valuable player." - NBC Sports
by Flyers_Section_121 on Nov 3, 2011 2:17 PM EDT up reply actions
It’s the same with youtube comments.
It mentions one little thing and then all of a sudden people are arguing about Obama and other political crap.
This station is non-operational
IT'S TEBOW TIME!
On the twitterverse
WHAT THE WHAT!
Lightning strikes once, Hextall strikes twice!
"I think there is virtue in pissing off idiots." - Fehr and Balanced
That amuses the hell out of me.
This station is non-operational
IT'S TEBOW TIME!
On the twitterverse
WHOA!
Lightning strikes once, Hextall strikes twice!
"I think there is virtue in pissing off idiots." - Fehr and Balanced
Lightning strikes once, Hextall strikes twice!
"I think there is virtue in pissing off idiots." - Fehr and Balanced
(Warning: Contains cartoon violence and blood. Many red markers were consumed in the making of this film.)
Lightning strikes once, Hextall strikes twice!
"I think there is virtue in pissing off idiots." - Fehr and Balanced
All I get are reults from Youtube. What’s the big deal?
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by MaximumTalbot on Nov 3, 2011 2:13 PM EDT up reply actions
It didn’t work for me in IE but it worked on Firefox. If you google it your screen will actually do a barrel roll.
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"Some might give head coach Dave Tippett and general manager Don Maloney plenty of credit for guiding the Coyotes to two straight playoff berths amid franchise foibles – and they deserve much of it – but Bryzgalov was far and away the team’s most valuable player." - NBC Sports
by Flyers_Section_121 on Nov 3, 2011 2:14 PM EDT up reply actions
It obviously works in chrome.
Lightning strikes once, Hextall strikes twice!
"I think there is virtue in pissing off idiots." - Fehr and Balanced
I’d hope so for Google’s sake! I haven’t used Chrome but I hear it’s pretty fast.
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by Flyers_Section_121 on Nov 3, 2011 2:18 PM EDT up reply actions
My chrome pretty fast – but its a tailpipe on my motorcycle.
/despise technology sometimes.
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by MaximumTalbot on Nov 3, 2011 2:21 PM EDT up reply actions
It is. I was a huge fan of firefox for a long time since it was so much faster than IE. But then it started to get bogged down and bloated (just like its predecessor, Netscape). Chrome is extremely fast. I click the icon to open it and it’s just there. Hopefully they’re smart enough to keep it that way.
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Ha we used to use Netscape Navigator back in the day (we called it Nutscrape Navigator.) I was always an IE fan but some sites work better in FF than IE at least for me. I should probably try Chrome too at some point but change for me happens slowly. I get stuck in my ways.
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by Flyers_Section_121 on Nov 3, 2011 2:32 PM EDT up reply actions
I tend to be rather stuck in my ways too, but this improvement was so drastic that when I tried it I immediately switched.
Lightning strikes once, Hextall strikes twice!
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I think you’ve convinced me to try it hintz. I really should try more browsers to see which one works best for me. It’s just a bit of a hassle I guess.
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by Flyers_Section_121 on Nov 3, 2011 3:30 PM EDT up reply actions
The inverse of 5 minutes in a game....get G a therapist or chiropractor on call or something
Our friend Claude had 25 minutes TOI last night. I don’t recall any forward in the recent past regularly reaching that amount in the regular season, and it would be pretty high even for the playoffs. Let’s hope Danny or Read get better soon.
GMAT verbal section question, Philadelphia sports version.
In 2015, which one of the following will prove to be a better investment?
a) Ilya Bryzgalov's contract b) Ryan Howard's extension (c) Mike Vick's extension (d) Greek bonds from 2009
Notwithstanding the overall tilt of the linked story about Bryzgalov, I must say that this made me chuckle. The guy tells it like he sees it, and doesn’t try to filter anything.
But Bryzgalov has always been an unfettered soul in a game built on conformity. In Anaheim, he said of Edmonton, "here is like North Pole." At the 2010 Olympics, as the backup for the Russian team, he was asked what he thought as Canada raced out to a 6-1 lead in the quarter-final before starter Evgeni Nabokov was pulled. The vast majority of the team had refused to speak to the media, marching through the mixed zone like soldiers, but Bryzgalov stood there and said, "What I think? I’m thinking, ‘Uh-oh.’"
Sarauj, Latvija!
Next career
Craig Ferguson’s replacement in 2020 (2015?)
GMAT verbal section question, Philadelphia sports version.
In 2015, which one of the following will prove to be a better investment?
a) Ilya Bryzgalov's contract b) Ryan Howard's extension (c) Mike Vick's extension (d) Greek bonds from 2009
On the hockey prospectus article
Using short handed goals to establish Goal Differential in PKs seems odd. I consider short handed goal too infrequent to really be revelant criteria.
Yup. Three weeks into the fantasy hockey season and I haven’t gotten one yet.
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Faceoffs
Is this something that we are going to have to worry about long term or is it just a product of the injuries right now? I know the game last night was a very small sample size but I was wondering if everyone is content with our roster on draws as is when it’s healthy.
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by Flyers_Section_121 on Nov 3, 2011 2:55 PM EDT reply actions
Most people are not content, and it’s been brought up several times as an area of concern since the trades in the off season.
being obnoxious and self righteous while ignoring the point since 9/29/11
What do you think needs to happen to improve it? Roster moves, more time spent on coaching…etc?
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by Flyers_Section_121 on Nov 3, 2011 3:28 PM EDT up reply actions
I have no idea what has been done in practices, but career numbers seem to point to Briere and Giroux being just sub 50% guys, with Talbot slightly lower. I’m guessing the team was aware of that, and said well f it, or wasn’t aware and that’s another way of saying f it, we don’t think it’s important. Couturier has been pretty horrible, and we’ll see how Schenn does when he gets back. I think it’s something they have chosen to accept this year looking at how the roster was put together though.
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Thanks D. I’ve been trying to put together a few different what if scenarios in my head but it’s hard to really figure it. Part of me thinks with the young guys we have maybe they could develop into better guys in the circle but obviously guys like Danny and Max would probably be as they are for the long term (meaning hanging around career averages.) Do you think it’s something that they could maybe improve at the deadline by adding a strong centerman? Appreciate your input…
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by Flyers_Section_121 on Nov 3, 2011 3:36 PM EDT up reply actions
Depends on who’s out there, and their banked cap space. I wouldn’t add a guy this year because I still don’t think the team is good enough to truly contend for the cup, though I’m anxious to look at some team level numbers I value at the quarter pole and half way point to see how the team is performing versus my expectations.
As far as working on it, I really hope Couturier works on it in the off season if this sample size is in any way indicative of his skills on the dot.
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Thanks D. I’ve been trying to put together a few different what if scenarios in my head but it’s hard to really figure it. Part of me thinks with the young guys we have maybe they could develop into better guys in the circle but obviously guys like Danny and Max would probably be as they are for the long term (meaning hanging around career averages.) Do you think it’s something that they could maybe improve at the deadline by adding a strong centerman? Appreciate your input…
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Reply Fail…mah bad.
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by Flyers_Section_121 on Nov 3, 2011 3:35 PM EDT up reply actions
Kaleta gets 4 games according to EJ Hradek
"Can I refill your eggnog for you? Get you something to eat? Drive you out to the middle of nowhere and leave you for dead?"
by PraiseMartyMoose on Nov 3, 2011 3:53 PM EDT reply actions
Shanny explanation is already up.
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Damn, he’s fast.
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Fast, yes. Has a career in acting? Not so much.
"Can I refill your eggnog for you? Get you something to eat? Drive you out to the middle of nowhere and leave you for dead?"
by PraiseMartyMoose on Nov 3, 2011 4:11 PM EDT up reply actions
Just watched it. These things are awesome. It’s fantastic. I love that they do this now. I had heard about them and such but this is the first one I watched. Kaleta is a shithead. He uses said shit head to hit people in the piles. He did this here….and here…..and here. He is being suspended 4 games.
The only thing that would make it better is if Shanny had ANY personality what so ever.
Flyers Fans: We've survived Lock-outs, Lindros and Cooperalls. If you want to get rid of us, you'll have to split an atom or two.
by KreiderDesigns on Nov 3, 2011 4:15 PM EDT up reply actions
I’d love to hear him break character one time (yes I believe the horrible personality is intentional as to not allow anyone to read any emotion in to any ruling), and go, “are you f-ing kidding me, yeah he’s gone, 10 games, and if you are complaining, well then you don’t know shit.”
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Haha. That would be awesome!
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by KreiderDesigns on Nov 3, 2011 4:31 PM EDT up reply actions
Maybe he could get Roenick to do the post-analysis analysis. Dat’d woik.
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by MaximumTalbot on Nov 3, 2011 5:58 PM EDT up reply actions
Shanabanhammer of justice!
What kind of plane is it? Oh, it's a big pretty white plane with red stripes, curtains in the windows and wheels and it looks like a big ol' Tylenol.
And the cries of injustice from Buffalo begin in 3…2…1…
I root for the All-Hype Team.
by everybodyhitswoohoo on Nov 3, 2011 4:05 PM EDT up reply actions
a). He’s Patrick Kaleta.
b). Repeat offender.
It’s deserved.
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I hold out hope that if he’s suspended enough times he’ll stop doing stupid stuff like that and do what he’s actually good at which is drawing penalties and causing trouble.
Mike Weber Pressbox Incarceration Status: FREED. The league is doomed.
"Had miller played the rest of the game facing that many shots, he’d have ended up with 120 shots against"
Shanahan’s videos have started to bore me, but in this case he nailed it given that Kaleta’s basically done this exact same thing a few times already.
Four is more than I thought he’d get, but I’m not crying.
I root for the All-Hype Team.
by everybodyhitswoohoo on Nov 3, 2011 4:11 PM EDT up reply actions
General opinion at DBTB is: Kaleta is dirty, kinda deserve what he gets.
Keeping alive the old Vaudeville joke, "I'd rather be dead than play Philadelphia."
Good on them. Honesty in evaluating something like this (rather than being so blinded by homer-ism) is worthy of respect and emulation.
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by MaximumTalbot on Nov 3, 2011 5:59 PM EDT up reply actions
And no – that is not a dig on you in particular, Snevik.
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by MaximumTalbot on Nov 3, 2011 6:00 PM EDT up reply actions
Holmstrom back to Adirondack
And Danny is likely back in.
Do they bump Briere up to where Couturier was last night on the second line or keep him on the third with Simmonds and Nodl?
I root for the All-Hype Team.
by everybodyhitswoohoo on Nov 3, 2011 4:09 PM EDT reply actions
I prefer Cooter with Simmond and Nodl than with JVR and Voracek. Briere needs to be sheltered anyway, no sense in putting him with a solid checking line.
by hebrew hammer on Nov 3, 2011 4:12 PM EDT up reply actions
All they said was upper body, but I don’t know if they did reveal it. On DNL, Lisa Hilary said she had her inklings on what his injury was, but then just left us hanging. Hope it’s not another one that lingers.
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